If someone has advice on how to break through to trump fans I'm all ears.

[jc456]

LA was ok, the people of LA were trying to obstruct federal law enforcement officials from doing their Constitutional duties, by taking criminals of the street. If LA was its own world, then I wouldn’t care but illegal immigrants come into other states besides California and if a person cannot have respect enough for the country they come to, to obey that country’s laws, the need to be deported, back to their home. It is sad so many assholes support people that don’t respect our laws and then try to demean those that do. Bunch of idiots.

That is it in a nutshell, sanctuary cities leak into other states! Ron DeSantis explained that recently

 

[sealybobo]

That is it in a nutshell, sanctuary cities leak into other states! Ron DeSantis explained that recently

You mean like how most guns that kill people in blue cities come from red states?

And don't a lot of illegals come in via Texas and AZ?

Red states are sanctuary states. And in the next 3 years ICE won't bother illegal employers in red states. Only blue cities and states. This is all political. Where have all the illegals gone? Red states where they are safe.

 

[sealybobo]

That is it in a nutshell, sanctuary cities leak into other states! Ron DeSantis explained that recently

Hold on a second. I just found this

Under President Trump's second term in 2025, a majority of arrests occurred in Texas, Florida, and California, with a disproportionate focus on Democrat-leaning "sanctuary" cities.
Why doesn't Trump invade/occupy Florida?
"ICE raids in Florida" refers to recent multi-agency immigration enforcement operations, most notably Operation Tidal Wave in April 2025, which resulted in the largest number of arrests in a single week in U.S. history and targeted criminal immigrants and individuals with final removal orders. The state has seen a significant increase in immigration arrests since the start of a new administration, with a surge in both criminal and non-criminal arrests, and is a leader in federal partnerships like 287(g) agreements, which deputize local law enforcement to enforce immigration laws. These operations have occurred at worksites like construction sites and businesses, leading to hundreds of detentions and sparking community protests against stepped-up policies.

Send the marines! Communities are protesting!

 

[Papageorgio]

So it's okay to invade or occupy a state so long as you swallow the justification for it. And you have swallowed Trump's justification for invading CA. Like I said, step one to a slow moving coup is getting you to accept things like this. You will accept Trump's justification when he invades another state don't worry. Or it won't get you to vote for Democrats. So no amount of dictator will bother you.

There are plenty of illegals working in red states. When the farmers in those states complained, Trump told them don't worry he won't go after their illegal workers. Hotels and restaurants too. At least not in Red states. In CA Trump attacked brown people at Home Depot.

American agriculture is withering due to a severe shortage of workers, said John Boelts, a Yuma, Arizona, farmer and president of the Arizona Farm Bureau.

"We do not have the workers. We simply don't have the workers. American agriculture is withering on the vine due to a lack of workers,"

Trump is ignoring a lot of illegals who come into red states.

California is the largest agricultural producer and food supplier in the United States, generating nearly $60 billion annually and supplying a third of the country's vegetables and most of its fruits and nuts. While no single "farm" is the largest in California, the state boasts the most land dedicated to farming and hosts some of the nation's largest individual farms

California was actively interfering with ICE agents, they were assaulting ICE agents. Federal assistance was warranted, California was actively preventing a federal agency from doing their jobs. What California did violated federal law, going into Chicago or New York to retain order is a state issue, not federal.

The rest of your post has nothing to do with the issue.

 

[sealybobo]

California was actively interfering with ICE agents, they were assaulting ICE agents. Federal assistance was warranted, California was actively preventing a federal agency from doing their jobs. What California did violated federal law, going into Chicago or New York to retain order is a state issue, not federal.

The rest of your post has nothing to do with the issue.

California was actively interfering? Or were some people in California interfering? And doesn't California have police?

FYI, only one ICE agent sustained an injury when a rock struck the windshield of their vehicle, cutting their hand.

Like the January 6th riot it was a day of peace. More people died on Jan 6th than in LA. And you think that justified sending in the military? Then anything is justification for sending in the troops. Like I said, his slow moving coup is working on you.

It's amazing you defend a guy who said Jan 6 was a nothing burger but the LA incident justified him sending in the marines. You're an idiot huh?

What is your line anyways? The line he can't cross or you'll vote for a Democrat in 2028.

 

[Papageorgio]

California was actively interfering? Or were some people in California interfering? And doesn't California have police?

FYI, only one ICE agent sustained an injury when a rock struck the windshield of their vehicle, cutting their hand.

Like the January 6th riot it was a day of peace. More people died on Jan 6th than in LA. And you think that justified sending in the military? Then anything is justification for sending in the troops. Like I said, his slow moving coup is working on you.

It's amazing you defend a guy who said Jan 6 was a nothing burger but the LA incident justified him sending in the marines. You're an idiot huh?

What is your line anyways? The line he can't cross or you'll vote for a Democrat in 2028.

I have told you over and over you where I stand with Trump, and yet you keep making stupid claims about me. Has the pot totally fried you memory? What is the point of me telling you the same crap over and over, only for you to forget and make shit up? I told you get a Dem that will cut the budget, raise taxes, reduce the debt, keep the border closed, quit the social liberal BS out of politics and you have someone I’d vote for. If they had a plan to reduce debt, that would probably be enough. So far though Republicans and Democrat seem incapable of that easy agenda.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

" How to. Get through to Trump Voters"???


That's easy: call the call them Maggats, Tell them that they're stupid, remind them of how ignorant they are, continue to make long and verbose posts highlighting the mental retardation of Trump voters, never let a day pass without calling out the social guilt that all Trump supporters are responsible for and above all never ever consider that such a person might be able to make their own decision without your help.

That should do it.

It's better then beating them until they stop moving...

 

[Nostra]

You mean like how most guns that kill people in blue cities come from red states?

So blue city anti-gun laws don’t work.

Got it.

 

[sealybobo]

I have told you over and over you where I stand with Trump, and yet you keep making stupid claims about me. Has the pot totally fried you memory? What is the point of me telling you the same crap over and over, only for you to forget and make shit up? I told you get a Dem that will cut the budget, raise taxes, reduce the debt, keep the border closed, quit the social liberal BS out of politics and you have someone I’d vote for. If they had a plan to reduce debt, that would probably be enough. So far though Republicans and Democrat seem incapable of that easy agenda.

What do you want cut out of the budget?

You want taxes raised? Me too. On the rich.

Clinton had a surplus. That's what we do in good times. Obama and Biden had to get us out of messes their predecessors left them. Remember? Otherwise, they would have had surplus' too. They didn't get us into any costly wars. They didn't give tax breaks to corporations and the rich.

And since Reagan, Republicans refuse to spend any money. Even on infrastructure. Not without cuts to poor people. You know what I mean. You got to give the devils something if you want them to go along. That's why Clinton was great. He was the great triangulator. He gave the GOP a lot. Too much if you ask me. Like NAFTA. But that was a done deal at that point. I'm not even against NAFTA. As long as we protect our vital industries. Bush sent waaaay too many high paying manufacturing jobs overseas. Deregulated, if you ask me, the crash in 2008 was by design.

So Biden had to spend to keep the economy going smoothly. And he did. Inflation wasn't as bad as Republicans pretended it to be. Look at how they don't mind more of it now. Suddenly grocery prices don't matter.

And Trump's economy is flailing. Remember he criticized Obama's low interest rates? Now he's crying his interest rates are too high. You want Obama's interest rates now Donny?

America's economy is great. The only problem really is the poor and middle class are struggling too much while the rich are getting obscenely rich. And Republicans will cry class warfare and envy if I dare suggest doing anything to right the ship. Like tax their asses like we used to. Or hire more IRS people to go after rich people LIKE TRUMP who don't pay their fair share. What's your fair share? What you are legally obligated to pay, by law, in our ******* society.

Guys like you, by not voting Democratic, have given us right wing supreme court justices who give us things like Citizens United. Or they rule it's okay to take bribes. OR, they rule that Trump can't be prosecuted for crimes. YOU have given us this by not voting for Kamala/Biden/Obama.

 

[Nostra]

What do you want cut out of the budget?

You want taxes raised? Me too. On the rich.

Clinton had a surplus. That's what we do in good times. Obama and Biden had to get us out of messes their predecessors left them. Remember? Otherwise, they would have had surplus' too. They didn't get us into any costly wars. They didn't give tax breaks to corporations and the rich.

And since Reagan, Republicans refuse to spend any money. Even on infrastructure. Not without cuts to poor people. You know what I mean. You got to give the devils something if you want them to go along. That's why Clinton was great. He was the great triangulator. He gave the GOP a lot. Too much if you ask me. Like NAFTA. But that was a done deal at that point. I'm not even against NAFTA. As long as we protect our vital industries. Bush sent waaaay too many high paying manufacturing jobs overseas. Deregulated, if you ask me, the crash in 2008 was by design.

So Biden had to spend to keep the economy going smoothly. And he did. Inflation wasn't as bad as Republicans pretended it to be. Look at how they don't mind more of it now. Suddenly grocery prices don't matter.

And Trump's economy is flailing. Remember he criticized Obama's low interest rates? Now he's crying his interest rates are too high. You want Obama's interest rates now Donny?

America's economy is great. The only problem really is the poor and middle class are struggling too much while the rich are getting obscenely rich. And Republicans will cry class warfare and envy if I dare suggest doing anything to right the ship. Like tax their asses like we used to. Or hire more IRS people to go after rich people LIKE TRUMP who don't pay their fair share. What's your fair share? What you are legally obligated to pay, by law, in our ******* society.

Guys like you, by not voting Democratic, have given us right wing supreme court justices who give us things like Citizens United. Or they rule it's okay to take bribes. OR, they rule that Trump can't be prosecuted for crimes. YOU have given us this by not voting for Kamala/Biden/Obama.

If Clinton had a surplus why did debt go up every year under him?

 

[knuckles]

Bravo for the Rats! Another long TDS thread. What a bunch of mooks.

 

[sealybobo]

If Clinton had a surplus why did debt go up every year under him?

You don't know the difference between debt and deficit?

 

[Nostra]

You don't know the difference between debt and deficit?

Sure, Short Bus.

Now do you want to try to answer the question?

 

[struth]

You don't know the difference between debt and deficit?

Do you know what a surplus is?

 

[sealybobo]

Sure, Short Bus.

Now do you want to try to answer the question?

Hey, baby steps bro. First you get yourself a projected surplus. Next thing you know you have an actual surplus. Then you take steps towards paying down the debt.

What did your boy Bush do? He gave rich people tax breaks and got us into 2 wars. HE BLEW the surplus.

Now Trump's going to double the debt. Instead of taking the DOGE savings and putting it towards social security or the debt, like Bush, he's squandering the tariff money we're bringing in on the BBB.

 

[Nostra]

Hey, baby steps bro. First you get yourself a projected surplus. Next thing you know you have an actual surplus. Then you take steps towards paying down the debt.

What did your boy Bush do? He gave rich people tax breaks and got us into 2 wars. HE BLEW the surplus.

Now Trump's going to double the debt. Instead of taking the DOGE savings and putting it towards social security or the debt, like Bush, he's squandering the tariff money we're bringing in on the BBB.

Cool story.

Why did debt go up if we had a surplus, Simp?

Try to focus.

 

[sealybobo]

I have told you over and over you where I stand with Trump, and yet you keep making stupid claims about me. Has the pot totally fried you memory? What is the point of me telling you the same crap over and over, only for you to forget and make shit up? I told you get a Dem that will cut the budget, raise taxes, reduce the debt, keep the border closed, quit the social liberal BS out of politics and you have someone I’d vote for. If they had a plan to reduce debt, that would probably be enough. So far though Republicans and Democrat seem incapable of that easy agenda.

You seem like the 2nd amendment guys who think they should be able to carry their guns anywhere, anytime, no matter what. It's their constitutional right. To bare arms. And so no laws shall be passed to infringe on that right. No common sense gun laws. No background checks. No registering guns. If a Democrat tries ANY OF THAT, then you just won't vote for them. Because you are a big 2nd amendment guy.

Same with the 1st. You don't want hate speech or lies censored. If Russia has trolls on Facebook constantly spreading lies, you don't want the government to tell a private company to stop it. I'm sorry but what site allows 100% free speech? Why do you come here? USMB infringes on your 1st amendment rights. There are rules here.

So you think it should be legal to yell fire in a movie theater? Or "HE'S GOT A GUN!"??? I mean, free speech.

And what about pro Hamas students at Harvard? Why can't they be anti semetic?

 

[struth]

You seem like the 2nd amendment guys who think they should be able to carry their guns anywhere, anytime, no matter what. It's their constitutional right. To bare arms. And so no laws shall be passed to infringe on that right. No common sense gun laws. No background checks. No registering guns. If a Democrat tries ANY OF THAT, then you just won't vote for them. Because you are a big 2nd amendment guy.

Same with the 1st. You don't want hate speech or lies censored. If Russia has trolls on Facebook constantly spreading lies, you don't want the government to tell a private company to stop it. I'm sorry but what site allows 100% free speech? Why do you come here? USMB infringes on your 1st amendment rights. There are rules here.

So you think it should be legal to yell fire in a movie theater? Or "HE'S GOT A GUN!"??? I mean, free speech.

And what about pro Hamas students at Harvard? Why can't they be anti semetic?

We know Dems really don't care about gun laws and keeping firearms out of the hands of the wrong people...see the pardon to Hunter Biden.

So, just sit down, you've been exposed.

 

[sealybobo]

We know Dems really don't care about gun laws and keeping firearms out of the hands of the wrong people...see the pardon to Hunter Biden.

So, just sit down, you've been exposed.

I want to register every gun manufactured. Keep track of where it's made, who it's sold to and how it ends up in the hands of criminals in blue cities.

 

[Papageorgio]

What do you want cut out of the budget?

You want taxes raised? Me too. On the rich.

Clinton had a surplus. That's what we do in good times. Obama and Biden had to get us out of messes their predecessors left them. Remember? Otherwise, they would have had surplus' too. They didn't get us into any costly wars. They didn't give tax breaks to corporations and the rich.

And since Reagan, Republicans refuse to spend any money. Even on infrastructure. Not without cuts to poor people. You know what I mean. You got to give the devils something if you want them to go along. That's why Clinton was great. He was the great triangulator. He gave the GOP a lot. Too much if you ask me. Like NAFTA. But that was a done deal at that point. I'm not even against NAFTA. As long as we protect our vital industries. Bush sent waaaay too many high paying manufacturing jobs overseas. Deregulated, if you ask me, the crash in 2008 was by design.

So Biden had to spend to keep the economy going smoothly. And he did. Inflation wasn't as bad as Republicans pretended it to be. Look at how they don't mind more of it now. Suddenly grocery prices don't matter.

And Trump's economy is flailing. Remember he criticized Obama's low interest rates? Now he's crying his interest rates are too high. You want Obama's interest rates now Donny?

America's economy is great. The only problem really is the poor and middle class are struggling too much while the rich are getting obscenely rich. And Republicans will cry class warfare and envy if I dare suggest doing anything to right the ship. Like tax their asses like we used to. Or hire more IRS people to go after rich people LIKE TRUMP who don't pay their fair share. What's your fair share? What you are legally obligated to pay, by law, in our ******* society.

Guys like you, by not voting Democratic, have given us right wing supreme court justices who give us things like Citizens United. Or they rule it's okay to take bribes. OR, they rule that Trump can't be prosecuted for crimes. YOU have given us this by not voting for Kamala/Biden/Obama.

None of what you posted has anything to do with what I posted, and continues to show you have no reading comprehension. You just go off on stupid nonsensical tangents. You might be able to increase your sales if you would just listen to people instead of blathering nonsense that has nothing to do with anything. Why do sales people word vomit?