if not evolution

[Fort Fun Indiana]

No. That makes me stubborn and difficult.

In addition to being an idiot. yes, if you disagree with things 'on principle" because you don't care for the person who says or writes them... you are an idiot.

Why not? You act like an asshole for the exact same reason.

Are you aware of any communist state that wasn't an atheist state?

Go peddle your terrible logic wlsewhere. oh, and guess what: you live in a secular country. Uh oh, time to off yourself, before the commies come to your door...

 

[ding]

You behave like a militant atheist. You condemn respect for anyone who believes in God.

"You condemn respect for anyone who believes in God."

whiny, shameless little lie. Internalizing your nonsensical ,magical beliefs, and thus taking criticism of them as personal criticism of you, is a YOU problem. It's not anyone else's problem.

That's exactly what a militant atheist would say when his militant atheism is confronted.

haha, says the delusional weirdo who sees "militancy" in every rain puddle... your opinion is worth shit

Actually it has been well documented.

Militant atheism leads to communism.

Hilarious. More of your pointless, defenseless claims.

Name one that wasn't, honey.

You can't do it because there has never been a communist state that wasn't an atheistic state. Never.

 

[ding]

No. That makes me stubborn and difficult.

In addition to being an idiot. yes, if you disagree with things 'on principle" because you don't care for the person who says or writes them... you are an idiot.

Why not? You act like an asshole for the exact same reason.

Are you aware of any communist state that wasn't an atheist state?

Go peddle your terrible logic wlsewhere. oh, and guess what: you live in a secular country. Uh oh, time to off yourself, before the commies come to your door...

Nope.

Communism is naturalized humanism. Karl Marx

 

[harmonica]

one critical aspect is time...we really don't realize what a thousand years are like, much less 10, 000 years
and evolution has had millions of years to ''create''

 

[ThatDude30]

Then your saying we didn't evolve from a single cell organism?

Huh? Not sure how you extracted that from anything I wrote. Every species you see today evolved from single-celled organisms. In fact, every single individual of every species on the planet shares ONE individual as a common ancestor, and it was a single-celled organism.

You said humans evolved from other species? So technically humans didn't the other species did.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Then your saying we didn't evolve from a single cell organism?

Huh? Not sure how you extracted that from anything I wrote. Every species you see today evolved from single-celled organisms. In fact, every single individual of every species on the planet shares ONE individual as a common ancestor, and it was a single-celled organism.

You said humans evolved from other species? So technically humans didn't the other species did.

Incorrect. We evolved from every one of our ancestors. It is correct to name any of them and to then say we evolved from that species.

 

[Hollie]

"You condemn respect for anyone who believes in God."

whiny, shameless little lie. Internalizing your nonsensical ,magical beliefs, and thus taking criticism of them as personal criticism of you, is a YOU problem. It's not anyone else's problem.

That's exactly what a militant atheist would say when his militant atheism is confronted.

haha, says the delusional weirdo who sees "militancy" in every rain puddle... your opinion is worth shit

Actually it has been well documented.

Militant atheism leads to communism.

Hilarious. More of your pointless, defenseless claims.

Name one that wasn't, honey.

You can't do it because there has never been a communist state that wasn't an atheistic state. Never.

Oh, stop whining. Your pointless cutting and pasting got you nowhere.

But, you’re used to that happening,

 

[Hollie]

No. That makes me stubborn and difficult.

In addition to being an idiot. yes, if you disagree with things 'on principle" because you don't care for the person who says or writes them... you are an idiot.

Why not? You act like an asshole for the exact same reason.

Are you aware of any communist state that wasn't an atheist state?

Go peddle your terrible logic wlsewhere. oh, and guess what: you live in a secular country. Uh oh, time to off yourself, before the commies come to your door...

Nope.

Communism is naturalized humanism. Karl Marx

Your repetitious cutting and pasting is really quite pointless when it does nothing to support your baseless claims.

 

[ding]

No. That makes me stubborn and difficult.

In addition to being an idiot. yes, if you disagree with things 'on principle" because you don't care for the person who says or writes them... you are an idiot.

Why not? You act like an asshole for the exact same reason.

Are you aware of any communist state that wasn't an atheist state?

Go peddle your terrible logic wlsewhere. oh, and guess what: you live in a secular country. Uh oh, time to off yourself, before the commies come to your door...

Nope.

Communism is naturalized humanism. Karl Marx

Your repetitious cutting and pasting is really quite pointless when it does nothing to support your baseless claims.

The propaganda of atheism is necessary for our programs, Holly. Vladimir Lennin.

 

[ding]

That's exactly what a militant atheist would say when his militant atheism is confronted.

haha, says the delusional weirdo who sees "militancy" in every rain puddle... your opinion is worth shit

Actually it has been well documented.

Militant atheism leads to communism.

Hilarious. More of your pointless, defenseless claims.

Name one that wasn't, honey.

You can't do it because there has never been a communist state that wasn't an atheistic state. Never.

Oh, stop whining. Your pointless cutting and pasting got you nowhere.

But, you’re used to that happening,

Does that mean you cannot name one single communist state that wasn't an atheist state?

Of course you can't. There has never been one.

 

[Hollie]

In addition to being an idiot. yes, if you disagree with things 'on principle" because you don't care for the person who says or writes them... you are an idiot.

Why not? You act like an asshole for the exact same reason.

Are you aware of any communist state that wasn't an atheist state?

Go peddle your terrible logic wlsewhere. oh, and guess what: you live in a secular country. Uh oh, time to off yourself, before the commies come to your door...

Nope.

Communism is naturalized humanism. Karl Marx

Your repetitious cutting and pasting is really quite pointless when it does nothing to support your baseless claims.

The propaganda of atheism is necessary for our programs, Holly. Vladimir Lennin.

Actually the ignorance of fundie zealots is all that is necessary for failure.

 

[ding]

Why not? You act like an asshole for the exact same reason.

Are you aware of any communist state that wasn't an atheist state?

Go peddle your terrible logic wlsewhere. oh, and guess what: you live in a secular country. Uh oh, time to off yourself, before the commies come to your door...

Nope.

Communism is naturalized humanism. Karl Marx

Your repetitious cutting and pasting is really quite pointless when it does nothing to support your baseless claims.

The propaganda of atheism is necessary for our programs, Holly. Vladimir Lennin.

Actually the ignorance of fundie zealots is all that is necessary for failure.

I've been pretty successful in life. You?

 

[Hollie]

haha, says the delusional weirdo who sees "militancy" in every rain puddle... your opinion is worth shit

Actually it has been well documented.

Militant atheism leads to communism.

Hilarious. More of your pointless, defenseless claims.

Name one that wasn't, honey.

You can't do it because there has never been a communist state that wasn't an atheistic state. Never.

Oh, stop whining. Your pointless cutting and pasting got you nowhere.

But, you’re used to that happening,

Does that mean you cannot name one single communist state that wasn't an atheist state?

Of course you can't. There has never been one.

Does that mean you're now backtracking on your unsupportable claims? It's what you do.

 

[Hollie]

Go peddle your terrible logic wlsewhere. oh, and guess what: you live in a secular country. Uh oh, time to off yourself, before the commies come to your door...

Nope.

Communism is naturalized humanism. Karl Marx

Your repetitious cutting and pasting is really quite pointless when it does nothing to support your baseless claims.

The propaganda of atheism is necessary for our programs, Holly. Vladimir Lennin.

Actually the ignorance of fundie zealots is all that is necessary for failure.

I've been pretty successful in life. You?

Another of your unsupported claims.

 

[MarkDuffy]

Then your saying we didn't evolve from a single cell organism?

Huh? Not sure how you extracted that from anything I wrote. Every species you see today evolved from single-celled organisms. In fact, every single individual of every species on the planet shares ONE individual as a common ancestor, and it was a single-celled organism.

You said humans evolved from other species? So technically humans didn't the other species did.

Incorrect. We evolved from every one of our ancestors. It is correct to name any of them and to then say we evolved from that species.

LOL, I think what he is saying is that we are the current endpoint of evolution, so we haven't evolved, the others evolved into us.

However, we are evolving somewhat. We are taller than archaic homo sapiens with a bit bigger brain also.

 

[Hollie]

one critical aspect is time...we really don't realize what a thousand years are like, much less 10, 000 years
and evolution has had millions of years to ''create''

Of course. How does letting random adaptations work over billiions of years equate to supernatural "design"? It doesn't. It is an anthropomorphism, and it actually doesn't apply. Any detailed comparison of the adaptations of nature and human design (the only intelligent design with which we have unambiguous familiarity) show that they are not at all alike.

The bottom line is that genetic variation might be random, but the natural selection that acts on that variation is not. Adaptation is non-random, as it is the result of objective criteria for fitness.

It's very easy for supernaturalists to pursue this matter and support their claims in the proper way. First, establish a solid theory for the idea of something outside of the "materialist" realm (i.e., the "supernatural"). Then, establish a theory that shows a correlation. Then the supernaturalists will have something worth reviewing. But as we see, they cannot

Evolution is a theory that is supported by facts and mountains of data that is demonstrable, even if supernaturalists like to cavalierly dismiss it (and sound laughably like flat-earthers by doing so, by the way). The religious zealots assert a supernatural cause for existence and can't even answer the most fundamentally flawed elements of their own assertions.

 

[MarkDuffy]

one critical aspect is time...we really don't realize what a thousand years are like, much less 10, 000 years
and evolution has had millions of years to ''create''

Of course. How does letting random adaptations work over billiions of years equate to supernatural "design"? It doesn't. It is an anthropomorphism, and it actually doesn't apply. Any detailed comparison of the adaptations of nature and human design (the only intelligent design with which we have unambiguous familiarity) show that they are not at all alike.

The bottom line is that genetic variation might be random, but the natural selection that acts on that variation is not. Adaptation is non-random, as it is the result of objective criteria for fitness.

It's very easy for supernaturalists to pursue this matter and support their claims in the proper way. First, establish a solid theory for the idea of something outside of the "materialist" realm (i.e., the "supernatural"). Then, establish a theory that shows a correlation. Then the supernaturalists will have something worth reviewing. But as we see, they cannot

Evolution is a theory that is supported by facts and mountains of data that is demonstrable, even if supernaturalists like to cavalierly dismiss it (and sound laughably like flat-earthers by doing so, by the way). The religious zealots assert a supernatural cause for existence and can't even answer the most fundamentally flawed elements of their own assertions.

Technically, Gods, magic & religion are how primitive man made sense of their world. It will take awhile for them to give up their brainwashing, like a hundred years or more at least.

 

[MarkDuffy]

No. That makes me stubborn and difficult.

In addition to being an idiot. yes, if you disagree with things 'on principle" because you don't care for the person who says or writes them... you are an idiot.

Why not? You act like an asshole for the exact same reason.

Are you aware of any communist state that wasn't an atheist state?

Go peddle your terrible logic wlsewhere. oh, and guess what: you live in a secular country. Uh oh, time to off yourself, before the commies come to your door...

Nope.

Communism is naturalized humanism. Karl Marx

What does communism and Marx have to do with evolution?

 

[MarkDuffy]

No. That makes me stubborn and difficult.

In addition to being an idiot. yes, if you disagree with things 'on principle" because you don't care for the person who says or writes them... you are an idiot.

Why not? You act like an asshole for the exact same reason.

Are you aware of any communist state that wasn't an atheist state?

Go peddle your terrible logic wlsewhere. oh, and guess what: you live in a secular country. Uh oh, time to off yourself, before the commies come to your door...

Technically, the USofA was designed to be a secular state, made up of Christian people who were supposed to try to keep church and state separate. Our Founders left England especially due to the problem with England having a religious state.

We have gone through waves of zealotry and appear to be in one now. The difference in this wave is that it has joined with white racists and anti-aborton is their war whoop.

 

[Hollie]

one critical aspect is time...we really don't realize what a thousand years are like, much less 10, 000 years
and evolution has had millions of years to ''create''

Of course. How does letting random adaptations work over billiions of years equate to supernatural "design"? It doesn't. It is an anthropomorphism, and it actually doesn't apply. Any detailed comparison of the adaptations of nature and human design (the only intelligent design with which we have unambiguous familiarity) show that they are not at all alike.

The bottom line is that genetic variation might be random, but the natural selection that acts on that variation is not. Adaptation is non-random, as it is the result of objective criteria for fitness.

It's very easy for supernaturalists to pursue this matter and support their claims in the proper way. First, establish a solid theory for the idea of something outside of the "materialist" realm (i.e., the "supernatural"). Then, establish a theory that shows a correlation. Then the supernaturalists will have something worth reviewing. But as we see, they cannot

Evolution is a theory that is supported by facts and mountains of data that is demonstrable, even if supernaturalists like to cavalierly dismiss it (and sound laughably like flat-earthers by doing so, by the way). The religious zealots assert a supernatural cause for existence and can't even answer the most fundamentally flawed elements of their own assertions.

Technically, Gods, magic & religion are how primitive man made sense of their world. It will take awhile for them to give up their brainwashing, like a hundred years or more at least.

That's certainly true. The farther back in time you go, the less science, medicine and rational thought there was, the quicker people croaked. At Jesus' time, the life expectancy was about 40 years. Today it's 85. The difference? Rational medicine and science. 500 years ago, people died from the affects of toothaches.


I’ll propose an experiment:

Find two people with radical appendicitis. Person A, apply the same steps as were applied before the mid 1800's (i.e., pray over them, light incense, tell them to “believe”, rattle bones, whatever). Person B -- perform an appendectomy using modern surgical techniques without any prayer. Who will survive, who will die -- consistently? Then ask yourself why is it that when using prayer (or hoping for miracles) they've always died, and not until man learned the science of medicine did people start to survive (i.e., only until man learned how to remedy appendicitis, did "god suddenly have the power to perform this miracle")? It's pretty self-evident.