Zone1 If Jesus Was A Jew

[Mrkelly]

I never heard ANY of that. As I said, I’ve been going to Torah and Jewish history classes on and off for 50 years, and Jesus has never even been mentioned.

The never call him Christ the lord in any of your teachings do they ?

Not a hill I will die on

Just seems odd

 

[onefour1]

In The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints we have a prophecy that was given to the prophet Joseph Smith that was partially given in the Bible. Below is the prophecy:

Zechariah 13:6
6 And one shall say unto him, What are these wounds in thine hands? Then he shall answer, Those with which I was wounded in the house of my friends.

Doctrine and Covenants 45:47-53
47 Then shall the arm of the Lord fall upon the nations.
48 And then shall the Lord set his foot upon this mount, and it shall cleave in twain, and the earth shall tremble, and reel to and fro, and the heavens also shall shake.
49 And the Lord shall utter his voice, and all the ends of the earth shall hear it; and the nations of the earth shall mourn, and they that have laughed shall see their folly.
50 And calamity shall cover the mocker, and the scorner shall be consumed; and they that have watched for iniquity shall be hewn down and cast into the fire.
51 And then shall the Jews look upon me and say: What are these wounds in thine hands and in thy feet?
52 Then shall they know that I am the Lord; for I will say unto them: These wounds are the wounds with which I was wounded in the house of my friends. I am he who was lifted up. I am Jesus that was crucified. I am the Son of God.
53 And then shall they weep because of their iniquities; then shall they lament because they persecuted their king.

 

[Lisa558]

The never call him Christ the lord in any of your teachings do they ?

Not a hill I will die on

Just seems odd

They never refer to him at all. He’s not a factor in Judaism.

 

[irosie91]

Hard to be a serious Bible student without learning about Judah and Jews. Hard to be a serious Christian without having an opinion about the Jews as well.

Christians do not evince "opinions" about jews---they are OBSESSED with
libels and stereotypes

 

[buttercup]

I like hunting.

Why do you enjoy killing? Especially as a Christian, and especially when it's unnecessary.

Did you know that the few hunters mentioned in the bible were bad characters? The main hunters mentioned were Nimrod, and Esau.

Nimrod (whose name itself means rebellion) was said to have been part Nephilim and part human, and is considered to be a figure of rebellion against God. Since there are so many parallels with Nimrod and Gilgamesh, many scholars believe Nimrod was Gilgamesh, and he was a violent, tyrannical, anti-God type of individual... as you can read here.

As for Esau, he made bad decisions that resulted in serious repercussions (like trading his birthright for a bowl of stew) and the bible says God loved Jacob but hated Esau. (Malachi 1:2-3, Romans 9:13)

We've gone over this before on other threads, so I don't want to go over it again (especially since it's off topic) but since God's perfect will is peace and harmony between humans and animals and not needless killing.... why dismiss His perfect will to instead choose needless violence and killing?

If you enjoy killing innocent beings, you're probably not going to like the New Earth, since it will be a restoration of Eden, a place of peace and harmony among all creation, no more wars, no more slaughterhouses, no more flesh eating or any of the ways of this fallen world.

Read the following description.... it sounds to me like you probably won't like it, or be prepared for it.

The wolf will live with the lamb,​

and the leopard will lie down with the goat.​

The calf, the young lion, and the fatling will be together,​

and a child will lead them.​

The cow and the bear will graze,​

their young ones will lie down together,​

and the lion will eat straw like the ox.​

An infant will play beside the cobra’s pit,​

and a toddler will put his hand into a snake’s den.​

None will harm or destroy another​

on My entire holy mountain,​

for the land will be as full​

of the knowledge of the Lord​

as the sea is filled with water.​

Isaiah 11:6-9​

 

[ding]

Christians do not evince "opinions" about jews---they are OBSESSED with
libels and stereotypes

I would have to say political leanings (left-right) tend to trump all other allegiances. But we - and I mean everyone - are obsessed with almost every possible division. Not only would it be a mistake to believe that Christians have cornered any markets, it would be a sign that you obsess over Christians.

 

[irosie91]

I would have to say political leanings (left-right) tend to trump all other allegiances. But we - and I mean everyone - are obsessed with almost every possible division. Not only would it be a mistake to believe that Christians have cornered any markets, it would be a sign that you obsess over Christians.

Your first sentence reveals YOUR obsession. Your last sentence is DENIAL

 

[ding]

Your first sentence reveals YOUR obsession. Your last sentence is DENIAL

What's my obsession?
What's my denial?

 

[irosie91]

What's my obsession?
What's my denial?

Obsession dem vs rhino dichotomy
Denial that which is inculcated into the heads of
christian children by family, society, sunday school and church

 

[ding]

Obsession dem vs rhino dichotomy
Denial that which is inculcated into the heads of
christian children by family, society, sunday school and church

You got the wrong guy.

And as for your childhood trauma, get over it already. Life isn't fair. Expect to make sacrifices.

 

[irosie91]

You got the wrong guy.

No I don't

 

[gipper]

Islam doesn’t want peace. Moron.

You truly are a waste of life

Proving once again you know nothing. You’ve consumed so much propaganda from state controlled media that everything you know is wrong.

Stop allowing the state to form your opinions. Get informed.

 

[Mrkelly]

They never refer to him at all. He’s not a factor in Judaism.

Ask them why he is not a factor

It’s like this

Catholics hold mother Mary higher than Jesus

Jews don’t consider Jesus a factor

Muslims consider Jesus a prophet and possible Messiah

But who do Christians hate more?

Like I said

Odd to me

 

[irosie91]

Proving once again you know nothing. You’ve consumed so much propaganda from state controlled media that everything you know is wrong.

Stop allowing the state to form your opinions. Get informed.

what makes you imagine that "the state" forms his opinions?
What forms your opinions?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Proving once again you know nothing. You’ve consumed so much propaganda from state controlled media that everything you know is wrong.

Stop allowing the state to form your opinions. Get informed.

It has nothing to do with state control media. Have you lost mind?

 

[BreezeWood]

They never refer to him at all. He’s not a factor in Judaism.

so sad ... what they had to offer.

and having murdered him before their written testimonials could be an additional reason for their ignorance than the actual reason ... their erstwhile camouflage hardly conceals their guilt.

 

[BreezeWood]

But who do Christians hate more?

if not told who to hate that may just be relative to the moment, given the opportunity it's mostly everyone with an average i q or above who has at least some education.

 

[irosie91]

so sad ... what they had to offer.

and having murdered him before their written testimonials could be an additional reason for their ignorance than the actual reason ... their erstwhile camouflage hardly conceals their guilt.

how odd. Jews have been writing about just about EVERYTHING for the
past 3000 years. Sometimes writings are lost but never to the extent that
CONSTANTINE's minions claimed. For that matter---never to the extent
muhummad's minions claim

 

[kjw47]

Thanks for that irrelevancy. Good luck.

Its fact.

 

[kjw47]

That’s because we want to remain Jews and practice Judaism. So piss off.

1John 2:22 is a warning.
God gave all free will so you have the right to practice Judaism--It's you who are taking your stand as did the Jewish leaders in Jesus' day.