If Freedom Of Religion Includes Islam Then Why Doesn't The Pledge Of Allegiance Mention It

[hjmick]

I don't agree with Judaism but that's a true religion. Exactly the same thing with Buddhism, but Islam is about abusing women and children and murdering anybody who doesn't follow it. That's not a religion, that's a cult.

At their core, they're all cults.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

It is mentioned. God is Allah.

We should definitely strike the magical god part.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Under God was added to the pledge in the 1950s

Had nothing to do with our founding

Right. And it was added by Christian white nationalists who were in the final stages of the battle against giving full rights to brown people and females.

Their Alamo argument was that subjugation brown people and women was as god intended.

So this was a propaganda move by them to work on the minds of children.

 

[ChristisKing]

At their core, they're all cults.

No they aren't. Not even close.

 

[Rawley]

You are thinking of the Pledge of Allegiance.

The US Constitution doesn't mention Christianity or include the word 'God'.

"Seventeenth Day of September in the Year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty seven"

 

[Robert W]

We were founded by men with Christian ideals, however, they were very clear that they did not want the government to take sides in a religious context.

So far this nation has not founded any religion.

 

[Robert W]

How did Christ feel about capital punishment? Murder is murder and state sponsored murder is still murder.

He did not feel good about it since he was murdered on the cross.

I don't mind calling capital punishment murder. Because it is right. It murders those who murder.
There are exceptions such as Patrick Murphy sentenced to death in Texas. He was one of the famous Texas 7. He was parked in a car when one of the 7 murdered a cop. Texas law is strange.

 

[Robert W]

The phrase "under God" was not in the original pledge. It was added in 1954 in opposition to atheistic Russia during the cold war.

Was the United states founded based on the teachings of Islam?

 

[rightwinger]

Right. And it was added by Christian white nationalists who were in the final stages of the battle against giving full rights to brown people and females.

Their Alamo argument was that subjugation brown people and women was as god intended.

So this was a propaganda move by them to work on the minds of children.

Interesting how they left in “with liberty and justice for all” in the middle of a segregated America.

 

[Robert W]

Interesting how they left in “with liberty and justice for all” in the middle of a segregated America.

You mean the slaves that Democrats owned. Democrats needed slaves so the Feds did not want to remove it at the time. Washington had slaves. Jefferson had slaves. So, it was against their will to stop slavery. Slaves got the benefit of living on fine farms and ranches where they had food, subsistence and housing supplied as part of their job requirements.

How slaves lived in Africa

Nigerian journalist and novelist Adaobi Tricia Nwaubani writes that one of her ancestors sold slaves, but argues that he should not be judged by today's standards or values.

My great-grandfather, Nwaubani Ogogo Oriaku, was what I prefer to call a businessman, from the Igbo ethnic group of south-eastern Nigeria. He dealt in a number of goods, including tobacco and palm produce. He also sold human beings.

"He had agents who captured slaves from different places and brought them to him," my father told me.

Nwaubani Ogogo's slaves were sold through the ports of Calabar and Bonny in the south of what is today known as Nigeria.

 

[rightwinger]

Slaves got the benefit of living on fine farms and ranches where they had food, subsistence and housing supplied as part of their job requirements.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Interesting how they left in “with liberty and justice for all” in the middle of a segregated America.

Because saying, "for all white men" would have forced them to have the conversation in real terms, instead of in coded messages meant for people who already agreed with them.

 

[Eman623]

"Seventeenth Day of September in the Year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty seven"

What is Constitution day?

I'll take "Dates in US History" for $1000, Ken.

 

[Rawley]

What is Constitution day?

I'll take "Dates in US History" for $1000, Ken.

"The US Constitution doesn't mention Christianity or include the word 'God'."

Perhaps you should have studied more rather than watching TV.

"Seventeenth Day of September in the Year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty seven"

 

[Eman623]

"The US Constitution doesn't mention Christianity or include the word 'God'."
"Seventeenth Day of September in the Year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty seven"

My earlier statement is correct. The fact that the calendar uses the birth of Jesus as year 1 is not a mention of Christianity.

Also, technically that is a reference to Jesus, not God, ya damned trinitarian!

 

[Zincwarrior]

OP is a moron who does not know 'Allah' translates to God.

 

[Rawley]

My earlier statement is correct. The fact that the calendar uses the birth of Jesus as year 1 is not a mention of Christianity.

LOL You might have penned the new definition example for cognitive dissonance.

 

[Eman623]

LOL You might have penned the new definition example for cognitive dissonance.

When the other guys stops discussing the issue and starts commenting about me, that's when I know I've won the debate.

**** off.

 

[Robert W]

Because saying, "for all white men" would have forced them to have the conversation in real terms, instead of in coded messages meant for people who already agreed with them.

Slavery at the time was totally acceptable. George Washington and Thomas Jefferson and 12 owned slaves in all. So at the time it was respectable.

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Twelve U.S. presidents owned slaves at some point in their lives, with eight owning slaves while in office.​

List of Presidents Who Owned Slaves​

1. George Washington: The first president owned over 600 slaves throughout his life, including while in office. He stipulated in his will that his slaves be freed after his wife's death Wikipedia+1.
2. Thomas Jefferson: Jefferson owned more than 600 slaves and fathered children with an enslaved woman, Sally Hemings. Despite his advocacy for liberty, he did not free his slaves during his lifetime Wikipedia+1.
3. James Madison: Madison owned slaves while serving as president and did not free them in his will. He criticized slavery but took no significant action against it Wikipedia+1.
4. James Monroe: Monroe owned about 75 slaves and supported the idea of relocating freed slaves to Africa Constitution of The United States.
5. Andrew Jackson: Jackson owned around 161 slaves and was involved in the slave trade. He supported legislation that protected slave owners Wikipedia+1.
6. Martin Van Buren: Van Buren owned one slave early in his career HISTORY.
7. William Henry Harrison: Harrison owned several slaves inherited from his family HISTORY.
8. John Tyler: Tyler owned about 70 slaves and publicly supported the Confederacy during the Civil War Constitution of The United States.
9. James K. Polk: Polk owned 25 slaves and prioritized financial gain over moral concerns regarding slavery Constitution of The United States.
10. Zachary Taylor: Taylor owned approximately 150 slaves on his plantations in Kentucky, Mississippi, and Louisiana HISTORY.
11. Andrew Johnson: Johnson owned at least six slaves before becoming president and lobbied against the Emancipation Proclamation HISTORY.
12. Ulysses S. Grant: Grant owned one slave, William Jones, whom he freed before the Civil War HISTORY.

 

[Robert W]

When the other guys stops discussing the issue and starts commenting about me, that's when I know I've won the debate.

**** off.

You can't do that. It is a conflict of interest to rate yourself.