If Darwinism is true, there ought to be specimens of that in-between species between ape and human...

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Did you ever think we didn’t evolve from Apes but could be from another planet and came here because we ruined that planet just like we are ruining this one?

And this just happened to be here, purely by coincidence of convergent evolution, in such a similar form? (australopithecus afarensis):

Or would you say our extra-solar ancestors assumed the forms of the local wildlife? It doesn't seem to make much sense, either way.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Not necessarily as many creatures have no need to ever evolve !!

That doesn't matter. Two isolated populations of the same species will still almost certainly diverge, if by genetic drift alone.

 

[zaangalewa]

Nearly the same question, which I had a moment before: What means this stupid answer? What do you like to say?

Because proof of our real timeline would contradict the biblical timeline.

Can it be you have absolutelly no real idea about the mainstream in the Christian religion? Catholics never had problems with the idea of a biological evolution.

 

[the other mike]

Catholics never had problems with the idea of a biological evolution.

That's not true.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

About 70-80,000 years ago

According to the bible we're only 6000 years old.

the bible does not say that, some ignorant fools make that claim.

 

[zaangalewa]

About 70-80,000 years ago

According to the bible we're only 6000 years old.

What do you compare now? One day a priest was not satisfied with a qualitative view to the creation and liked to know quantitative exactly how old the creation was. So he used his knowledge, calculated all numbers in the bible and found out the creation had happened 6000 years ago. This was the first approximation. The last approximation had happened in CERN some years ago and showed 13.8 billion years.

 

[zaangalewa]

,,, Yep! Evolution is a fact. ...

More concrete: Biological evolution is a fact. But not everything evolves. Arts for example was perfect since the first human beings produced arts. And often the word "evolution" is used in a "wrong" way. An "evolution of cars" for example has absolutelly nothing to do with evolution in sense of biology. Cars "evolve" because of a growing of knowledge and because of new technologies and/or factors like buyer behavior and so so. For all this steps it needs human creations, intentions and plans.

 

[the other mike]

What do you compare now? One day a priest was not satisfied with a qualitative view to the creation and liked to know quantitative exactly how old the creation was. So he used his knowledge, calculated all numbers in the bible and found out the creation had happened 6000 years ago. This was the first approximation. The last approximation had happened in CERN some years ago and showed 13.8 billion years.

Earth is estimated to be 4.54 billion years old, plus or minus about 50 million years, and the universe 13.8 billion years old.

I'm not the one contradicting myself....

 

[zaangalewa]

What do you compare now? One day a priest was not satisfied with a qualitative view to the creation and liked to know quantitative exactly how old the creation was. So he used his knowledge, calculated all numbers in the bible and found out the creation had happened 6000 years ago. This was the first approximation. The last approximation had happened in CERN some years ago and showed 13.8 billion years.

Earth is estimated to be 4.54 billion years old, plus or minus about 50 million years, and the universe 13.8 billion years old.

I'm not the one contradicting myself....

And what has this to do with your attack on the Vatican?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

More concrete: Biological evolution is a fact. But not everything evolves. Arts for example was perfect since the first human beings produced arts.

I would assert art has evolved very much. I would also say that there are people who have dedicated their lives to studying and describing the evolution of art. This is something any art student has to learn at university .

 

[the other mike]

And what has this to do with your attack on the Vatican?

I said they're hiding the missing link there.
If that's an attack, so be it,.
Prove me wrong.

 

[the other mike]

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Did you ever think we didn’t evolve from Apes but could be from another planet and came here because we ruined that planet just like we are ruining this one?

The Pak Protectors brought us here.......

 

[zaangalewa]

And what has this to do with your attack on the Vatican?

I said they're hiding the missing link there.
If that's an attack, so be it,.
Prove me wrong.

You said the Vatican is hiding what? What do you like to say? What means this? What do you think what a missing link is?

 

[the other mike]

You said the Vatican is hiding what? What do you like to say? What means this? What do you think what a missing link is?

Never mind.
Do you understand that ?

 

[zaangalewa]

Catholics never had problems with the idea of a biological evolution.

That's not true.

Sure have single Catholics problems or not problems - in many different ways - within their lifes during a long time of history under very different conditons in many different regions of the world. I personally see many wrong forms of "evolution" and "Darwinism" - worst was the hateful biologism of the Nazis for example. But this has nothing to do with real biological evolution per se. Let me say it very short: Our evolution is created in god. Angels for example have no evolution at all. They decided everything "during" their creation out of time. That's not our way. We are not angels ... most of us ... perhaps confirms an exception sometimes this rule.

 

[zaangalewa]

You said the Vatican is hiding what? What do you like to say? What means this? What do you think what a missing link is?

Never mind.
Do you understand that ?
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In translate this as an "Leck mich am Arsch" = "Kiss my backside".

 

[zaangalewa]

More concrete: Biological evolution is a fact. But not everything evolves. Arts for example was perfect since the first human beings produced arts.

I would assert art has evolved very much.

The great artists, who took a look at the first pictures of the stone ages say "no" (in French and other languages). Many of the pictures and sculptures of the first artists of mankind show that arts was perfect from the very first beginning.

If you like to have a another example then take a simple circle instead. Either circles were existing since the very first moment or we are not able to say something with the "spiritual" method mathematics about this time or not-time. And natural science without mathematics is not very effective.

I would also say that there are people who have dedicated their lives to studying and describing the evolution of art. This is something any art student has to learn at university .

That's a problem of the word "evolution". It's often an empty placehoder for everything and nothing and means nothing else than time passes and different things represent different times. With biological evolution is this not comparable. Nothing what we are able to make is perfect - but some things are "perfect" if you watch it and you see behind the surface. And this what is behind the surface, behind the horizon, is not evolving. You have to travel "blind" to find it. Concrete example: It exist pyramids - it exist skyscrapers. ¿Evolution? Genes from pyramids are in sky-scrapers? If no pyramids had existed sky-scrapers would not exist? Really?

PS: On the other side: Perhaps had really happened a transformation from the "house of death" to the "house of life".

 

[Quasar44]

What do you compare now? One day a priest was not satisfied with a qualitative view to the creation and liked to know quantitative exactly how old the creation was. So he used his knowledge, calculated all numbers in the bible and found out the creation had happened 6000 years ago. This was the first approximation. The last approximation had happened in CERN some years ago and showed 13.8 billion years.

Earth is estimated to be 4.54 billion years old, plus or minus about 50 million years, and the universe 13.8 billion years old.

I'm not the one contradicting myself....

That is only the visible universe !!
Plus , the evidence is mounting that the multiverse could be fact
. In some parallel off world - maybe Jews killed 6 million German demons

 

[Quasar44]

Is there a god ??
Very well could be ..but he has clearly given up on humans