If Barry Bonds isn't a Hall of Famer by the end of the day, it's a failure by the Hall of Fame

[JustAGuy1]

A Barry Bonds apologist.

He is an asshole , but he was great. I'd pay to watch it all again.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Were you born this stupid or did you study. This is a thread about PEDS, modern day cheaters and the HOF, NOT racist injustice, NOT Trump, and Not whether Barney was purple or even a dinosaur. Get on topic or STFU.

He has got a point Fiero.as much as I love it that you are one of the rare people on this board that do not deny reality that the cheatriots have disgraced the sport of footbal and tainted the NFL, that belicheat is the most overrated clown coach ever in the game and that Bonds,Mcguire,sosa and clemons are all cheaters,check the rules. this is the SPORTS section, you are not even in the right section if you want to babble on with your rants about Trump.You didnt even described the right president in your babble on Trump,that was BIDEN you described to a tee.

 

[AMart]

Babe Ruth hit a hefty portion of HRs drunk or hungover.

Bonds juiced, and shouldn't be in....Pete Rose should go in first.

So did Mantle.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Were you born this stupid or did you study. This is a thread about PEDS, modern day cheaters and the HOF, NOT racist injustice, NOT Trump, and Not whether Barney was purple or even a dinosaur. Get on topic or STFU.

some people seem to not understand what section they go to each day. Really Fiero,I would expect Smellybozo to bring politics into the sports section with his asinine babble that you cant go wrong voting for the Demonrat party,republicans are evil,blah blah blah blah,but YOU i expected better of.

i got off topic myself just a lttle, not too much sense it was about cheating,but i at LEAST kept the subject to cheating and about SPORTS.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

JustAGuy1 thats acceptable as long as you at LEAST dont deny reality that cheatriot apologists do that the cheatriots should be stripped of all playoff and superbowl victorys,Belecheat is the most overrated clown coach ever,him and brady should be barred from the NFL hall of fame and they have disgraced the sport and tainted the league and the black sox have NOTHING on them as far as cheating goes.

 

[Fiero425]

He has got a point Fiero.as much as I love it that you are one of the rare people on this board that do not deny reality that the cheatriots have disgraced the sport of footbal and tainted the NFL, that belicheat is the most overrated clown coach ever in the game and that Bonds,Mcguire,sosa and clemons are all cheaters,check the rules. this is the SPORTS section, you are not even in the right section if you want to babble on with your rants about Trump.You didnt even described the right president in your babble on Trump,that was BIDEN you described to a tee.

They're all too old, but at this time it doesn't really matter! We're all in "free fall!"

 

[Sunsettommy]

Babe Ruth hit a hefty portion of HRs drunk or hungover.

Bonds juiced, and shouldn't be in....Pete Rose should go in first.

Pete Rose should be in the Hall, he never cheated on the game itself or juiced up to play.

His sin was Gambling on the game a bad idea but not valid excuse to ban him from the Hall since the game itself wasn't damaged by his play on the field.

Hack Wilson was roaring drunk too yet in the Hall anyway for his great hitting career still has the all time RBI record for a season of 190.

 

[Sunsettommy]

And if Babe Ruth would have had access to "roids" he would have been stabbing his ass every single day. Like another poster said, "roids" don't amount to shit without the work. Bonds, McQuire, Sosa, they all deserve a spot in the Hall of Fame. I mean if we are going to condemn "roids" it is time we banned professional wrestling.

"Professional Wrestling" isn't categorized as a sport it is called Entertainment.

No, they were cheating big time you saw the sudden escalation of Homeruns which cheapens the game because it was grossly unfair to the Pitchers who were victimized by the barrage of homeruns damaging their own pitching stats.

Steroids works by enhancing the body of the person who normally would exercise to stay in condition for playing the game and with a long season to handle ths your argument doesn't work here.

Bonds, McGuire and Sosa should NEVER be in the hall as that would be an insult to the many who earned it the right way by sweat practice and natural ability.

 

[Thunderbird]

And if Babe Ruth would have had access to "roids" he would have been stabbing his ass every single day. Like another poster said, "roids" don't amount to shit without the work. Bonds, McQuire, Sosa, they all deserve a spot in the Hall of Fame. I mean if we are going to condemn "roids" it is time we banned professional wrestling.

Now you want to condemn people because you feel they would have used steroids?

 

[JustAGuy1]

"Professional Wrestling" isn't categorized as a sport it is called Entertainment.

No, they were cheating big time you saw the sudden escalation of Homeruns which cheapens the game because it was grossly unfair to the Pitchers who were victimized by the barrage of homeruns damaging their own pitching stats.

Steroids works by enhancing the body of the person who normally would exercise to stay in condition for playing the game and with a long season to handle ths your argument doesn't work here.

Bonds, McGuire and Sosa should NEVER be in the hall as that would be an insult to the many who earned it the right way by sweat practice and natural ability.

By the way, you just don't get a shot and get big. You get the shot but hey still have to work their arses off bigger and stronger

 

[Couchpotato]

By the way, you just don't get a shot and get big. You get the shot but hey still have to work their arses off bigger and stronger

So what? Who said there was no work involved? If 2 identical twins played baseball did the exact same workouts at the exact same time, ate the same food, fucked the same woman, slept in the same room on the same type of mattress, slept the same number of hours, everything was exactly the same, but one did steroids, and HGH (Bonds took both it's why his head looks like it grew), who do you think would be there better ball player? Who would be stronger, faster, bigger? Who would recover faster. Who would be less prone to injury. That's why Bonds, McGuire, Sosa, Palmiero, etc took the drugs. They knew it was an advantage and that it was significant enough to risk their career's over. Fuck them. They dont rate a place in the hall.

 

[Fiero425]

Pete Rose should be in the Hall, he never cheated on the game itself or juiced up to play.

His sin was Gambling on the game a bad idea but not valid excuse to ban him from the Hall since the game itself wasn't damaged by his play on the field.

Hack Wilson was roaring drunk too yet in the Hall anyway for his great hitting career still has the all time RBI record for a season of 190.

I understand where you're coming from, but the rule about gambling on the game is written all over! As a manager, that lowlife POS shouldn't go into the HOF until after he passes on! He should get no accolades about his accomplishments until he's taking that final "dirt nap!" Same goes for Roger Clemens and Barry Bonds!

 

[JustAGuy1]

So what? Who said there was no work involved? If 2 identical twins played baseball did the exact same workouts at the exact same time, ate the same food, fucked the same woman, slept in the same room on the same type of mattress, slept the same number of hours, everything was exactly the same, but one did steroids, and HGH (Bonds took both it's why his head looks like it grew), who do you think would be there better ball player? Who would be stronger, faster, bigger? Who would recover faster. Who would be less prone to injury. That's why Bonds, McGuire, Sosa, Palmiero, etc took the drugs. They knew it was an advantage and that it was significant enough to risk their career's over. Fuck them. They dont rate a place in the hall.

You'll live.

It was a great show to watch.

 

[Couchpotato]

You'll live.

It was a great show to watch.

So is pro wrestling but we all know it's fake. Same with Bonds, Sosa and McGwuire. Fake.

 

[JustAGuy1]

So is pro wrestling but we all know it's fake. Same with Bonds, Sosa and McGwuire. Fake.

No, "Pro" Wrestling is not fun to watch.

 

[Couchpotato]

No, "Pro" Wrestling is not fun to watch.

Maybe for you but Vince McMahon has 2 billion dollars that says you're wrong.

 

[Jarlaxle]

Pete Rose should be in the Hall, he never cheated on the game itself or juiced up to play.

His sin was Gambling on the game a bad idea but not valid excuse to ban him from the Hall since the game itself wasn't damaged by his play on the field.

Hack Wilson was roaring drunk too yet in the Hall anyway for his great hitting career still has the all time RBI record for a season of 190.

Pete Rose should be a baseball pariah. Never mentioned in a broadcast, banned from all MLB properties (and arrested if he shows up), prohibited from any contact of any kind with any league or team personnel-basically, a nonperson. In MLB records, treat him like Benedict Arnold.

 

[Jarlaxle]

So what? Who said there was no work involved? If 2 identical twins played baseball did the exact same workouts at the exact same time, ate the same food, fucked the same woman, slept in the same room on the same type of mattress, slept the same number of hours, everything was exactly the same, but one did steroids, and HGH (Bonds took both it's why his head looks like it grew), who do you think would be there better ball player? Who would be stronger, faster, bigger? Who would recover faster. Who would be less prone to injury. That's why Bonds, McGuire, Sosa, Palmiero, etc took the drugs. They knew it was an advantage and that it was significant enough to risk their career's over. Fuck them. They dont rate a place in the hall.

Two identical twin brothers DID use steroids. One set some MLB records (that still stand), and was rookie of the year and an MVP.

The other is a career .200 hitter with no home runs in 24 MLB games.

 

[Canon Shooter]

At the entrance to the National Baseball Hall of Fame's plaque gallery, a sign hangs to help guide museumgoers through what they're about to see. The first paragraph talks about how players are in the Hall for "their accomplishments in the game." The next paragraph says other areas of the museum "address the totality of their careers." The final paragraph ties it all together: "The National Baseball Hall of Fame and Museum's mission is to Preserve History, which is what we seek to do throughout the Museum."

If indeed that is the Hall's mission, today is nothing less than an abject failure. Barry Bonds, arguably the greatest hitter in baseball history, inarguably worthy of induction, did not reach the 75% threshold in his final year on the writers' ballot. For the past nine years, at least one-third of the baseball writers who adjudicate such matters have found Bonds' use of performance-enhancing drugs to be disqualifying, and the revelation of Tuesday's vote is not expected to render any different judgment. He's not the only one, but Bonds' rejection, in particular, epitomizes how all these decades later, baseball is still bungling the PED issue, valuing a lazy, ahistorical moral referendum over the preservation of history.

Barry Bonds was shut out of Cooperstown -- and that's a Hall of Fame failure

The Hall has one job: to tell the story of the sport. And nobody is a bigger part of that story than Barry Lamar Bonds.

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They gave us everything we wanted. It was magical and we watched it. We didn't just watch it, we lived it with them. I will never forget the summer of McGuire and Sosa. The drugs don't work without the work. It's a travesty.

Barry Bonds cheated. Period. Keep him out.

Pete Rose should be inducted long before Bonds is even considered...

 

[Canon Shooter]

Pete Rose should be a baseball pariah. Never mentioned in a broadcast, banned from all MLB properties (and arrested if he shows up), prohibited from any contact of any kind with any league or team personnel-basically, a nonperson. In MLB records, treat him like Benedict Arnold.

Why?