Identity politics...

[dblack]

It's a shame this thread has devolved into a debate on racism. Identity politics is much broader and a much bigger problem.

Identity politics is the insignificant baby sibling of racism.

Racism is a subset of identity politics, which is a key component of corporatism - a system of government when a person's rights and privileges depend on what interest group they belong to, and how much political influence that group can bring to bear.

 

[katsteve2012]

“Were given?” LOL look at you, sanctimonious cracka. As if it didn’t takes centuries of fighting and dying by brown people. As if you’re not actively trying to prevent them from entering the country whether by legal or illegal means. As if you’re not actively trying to suppress opposing religious beliefs they may hold. When you hear “black lives matter,” you recoil in anger that somebody would dare claim that. Identity politics works great for you when you want it to.

What brown people fought and died? The civil war was fought by white people. Blacks didn’t every win their freedom or rights by fighting, they were given those rights by whites. And yet you call us “sanctimonious crackas”.

Why wouldn’t we want to prevent third world foreigners from entering our country? Our culture was built by our European ancestors, and should be for us. I realize African culture isn’t preferable so that’s why Africans flee to Western civilization. So here you are, a negro speaking a white man’s language, educated and living in a Western society, and yet all you can do is complain you haven’t inherited enough from whites.

By the end of the Civil War, roughly 179,000 black men (10% of the Union Army) served as soldiers in the U.S. Army and another 19,000 served in the Navy. Nearly 40,000 black soldiers died over the course of the war—30,000 of infection or disease. Black soldiers served in artillery and infantry and performed all noncombat support functions that sustain an army, as well. Black carpenters, chaplains, cooks, guards, laborers, nurses, scouts, spies, steamboat pilots, surgeons, and teamsters also contributed to the war cause. There were nearly 80 black commissioned officers. Black women, who could not formally join the Army, nonetheless served as nurses, spies, and scouts, the most famous being Harriet Tubman (photo citation: 200-HN-PIO-1), who scouted for the 2d South Carolina Volunteers.


Black Soldiers in the U.S. Military During the Civil War

They managed to get blacks to work in those days? Pretty impressive!

What an utterly stupid statement. Blacks in "those days" and even after, worked a lot harder than most white people. And for far less.

You mean the white people who created the industrial revolution?

Those white people?

Seriously? Black people during that era were typically servants who did the dirty work that white people were thought to be "too good" to do.

 

[IM2]

It's a shame this thread has devolved into a debate on racism. Identity politics is much broader and a much bigger problem.

Identity politics is the insignificant baby sibling of racism.

Racism is a subset of identity politics, which is a key component of corporatism - a system of government when a person's rights and privileges depend on what interest group they belong to, and how much political influence that group can bring to bear.

No. That is not what racism is. If you actually ever really faced racism you would not make such a comment

 

[dblack]

It's a shame this thread has devolved into a debate on racism. Identity politics is much broader and a much bigger problem.

Identity politics is the insignificant baby sibling of racism.

Racism is a subset of identity politics, which is a key component of corporatism - a system of government when a person's rights and privileges depend on what interest group they belong to, and how much political influence that group can bring to bear.

No. That is not what racism is. If you actually ever really faced racism you would not make such a comment

If you ever looked at the broader picture, you might actually understand my comment.

 

[ptbw forever]

What brown people fought and died? The civil war was fought by white people. Blacks didn’t every win their freedom or rights by fighting, they were given those rights by whites. And yet you call us “sanctimonious crackas”.

Why wouldn’t we want to prevent third world foreigners from entering our country? Our culture was built by our European ancestors, and should be for us. I realize African culture isn’t preferable so that’s why Africans flee to Western civilization. So here you are, a negro speaking a white man’s language, educated and living in a Western society, and yet all you can do is complain you haven’t inherited enough from whites.

Youre another ignorant moron that knows nothing. If not for Blacks joining the Civil War the north would have lost.

When the tide turned in the Civil War

"Lincoln was convinced, and Black soldiers entered the fight in 1863. Some 50,000 Black men had enlisted by August, and 180,000 would join by the war's end. From this point on, the war would pit the all-white armies of the South against a Union force with both white and Black regiments."

Did those blacks have to “fight” to be free? No. The white men in the north gave them freedom from slavery.

How did the white men in the north give them freedom when they were getting their asses kicked in the south? Just because they said they were free didnt mean they had the power to make them free. That came from the effort of the Black men.

180,000 is a drop in the bucket moron.

The black soldiers did little to nothing to move along the war effort for the north because of the sheer size and scale of the war itself.

180K Black men are worth more than 1M white men and were the souths greatest fear and the reason they lost. Once Black people got involved that was it for the white inbred southern losers who depended on Blacks for everything. Those white boy losers were left exposed and unable to function.

Pure fantasy.

 

[ptbw forever]

What brown people fought and died? The civil war was fought by white people. Blacks didn’t every win their freedom or rights by fighting, they were given those rights by whites. And yet you call us “sanctimonious crackas”.

Why wouldn’t we want to prevent third world foreigners from entering our country? Our culture was built by our European ancestors, and should be for us. I realize African culture isn’t preferable so that’s why Africans flee to Western civilization. So here you are, a negro speaking a white man’s language, educated and living in a Western society, and yet all you can do is complain you haven’t inherited enough from whites.

By the end of the Civil War, roughly 179,000 black men (10% of the Union Army) served as soldiers in the U.S. Army and another 19,000 served in the Navy. Nearly 40,000 black soldiers died over the course of the war—30,000 of infection or disease. Black soldiers served in artillery and infantry and performed all noncombat support functions that sustain an army, as well. Black carpenters, chaplains, cooks, guards, laborers, nurses, scouts, spies, steamboat pilots, surgeons, and teamsters also contributed to the war cause. There were nearly 80 black commissioned officers. Black women, who could not formally join the Army, nonetheless served as nurses, spies, and scouts, the most famous being Harriet Tubman (photo citation: 200-HN-PIO-1), who scouted for the 2d South Carolina Volunteers.


Black Soldiers in the U.S. Military During the Civil War

They managed to get blacks to work in those days? Pretty impressive!

What an utterly stupid statement. Blacks in "those days" and even after, worked a lot harder than most white people. And for far less.

You mean the white people who created the industrial revolution?

Those white people?

Seriously? Black people during that era were typically servants who did the dirty work that white people were thought to be "too good" to do.

White people were losing fingers and toes in semi-automated machines. Women and children were working for pennies to be able to afford bread.

Black people during that era picked cotton.

 

[katsteve2012]

By the end of the Civil War, roughly 179,000 black men (10% of the Union Army) served as soldiers in the U.S. Army and another 19,000 served in the Navy. Nearly 40,000 black soldiers died over the course of the war—30,000 of infection or disease. Black soldiers served in artillery and infantry and performed all noncombat support functions that sustain an army, as well. Black carpenters, chaplains, cooks, guards, laborers, nurses, scouts, spies, steamboat pilots, surgeons, and teamsters also contributed to the war cause. There were nearly 80 black commissioned officers. Black women, who could not formally join the Army, nonetheless served as nurses, spies, and scouts, the most famous being Harriet Tubman (photo citation: 200-HN-PIO-1), who scouted for the 2d South Carolina Volunteers.


Black Soldiers in the U.S. Military During the Civil War

They managed to get blacks to work in those days? Pretty impressive!

What an utterly stupid statement. Blacks in "those days" and even after, worked a lot harder than most white people. And for far less.

You mean the white people who created the industrial revolution?

Those white people?

Seriously? Black people during that era were typically servants who did the dirty work that white people were thought to be "too good" to do.

White people were losing fingers and toes in semi-automated machines. Women and children were working for pennies to be able to afford bread.

Black people during that era picked cotton.

Not all black people picked cotton during that era. But most who did, did so FREE.


Which is even LESS than "pennies".


And in some cases, if they did not pick enough, they were whipped or sold.

You should read more.

 

[ptbw forever]

They managed to get blacks to work in those days? Pretty impressive!

What an utterly stupid statement. Blacks in "those days" and even after, worked a lot harder than most white people. And for far less.

You mean the white people who created the industrial revolution?

Those white people?

Seriously? Black people during that era were typically servants who did the dirty work that white people were thought to be "too good" to do.

White people were losing fingers and toes in semi-automated machines. Women and children were working for pennies to be able to afford bread.

Black people during that era picked cotton.

Not all black people picked cotton during that era. But most who did, did so FREE.


Which is even LESS than "pennies".


And in some cases, if they did not pick enough, they were whipped or sold.

You should read more.

Being a slave sucked obviously, but the life of poor white people in early America was even worse.

Slaves were guaranteed food and shelter(at least until they couldn’t work or got old). Poor whites starved to death or they worked themselves until they died of illness or malnourishment just for some bread crumbs.

 

[katsteve2012]

What an utterly stupid statement. Blacks in "those days" and even after, worked a lot harder than most white people. And for far less.

You mean the white people who created the industrial revolution?

Those white people?

Seriously? Black people during that era were typically servants who did the dirty work that white people were thought to be "too good" to do.

White people were losing fingers and toes in semi-automated machines. Women and children were working for pennies to be able to afford bread.

Black people during that era picked cotton.

Not all black people picked cotton during that era. But most who did, did so FREE.


Which is even LESS than "pennies".


And in some cases, if they did not pick enough, they were whipped or sold.

You should read more.

Being a slave sucked obviously, but the life of poor white people in early America was even worse.

Slaves were guaranteed food and shelter(at least until they couldn’t work or got old). Poor whites starved to death or they worked themselves until they died of illness or malnourishment just for some bread crumbs.

What an utterly stupid statement. Blacks in "those days" and even after, worked a lot harder than most white people. And for far less.

You mean the white people who created the industrial revolution?

Those white people?

Seriously? Black people during that era were typically servants who did the dirty work that white people were thought to be "too good" to do.

White people were losing fingers and toes in semi-automated machines. Women and children were working for pennies to be able to afford bread.

Black people during that era picked cotton.

Not all black people picked cotton during that era. But most who did, did so FREE.


Which is even LESS than "pennies".


And in some cases, if they did not pick enough, they were whipped or sold.

You should read more.

Being a slave sucked obviously, but the life of poor white people in early America was even worse.

Slaves were guaranteed food and shelter(at least until they couldn’t work or got old). Poor whites starved to death or they worked themselves until they died of illness or malnourishment just for some bread crumbs.

If you had to make a choice between being free versus being a slave, and considered less than human which would you choose?

Most sane people would choose freedom. Even if it meant being poor.

 

[ptbw forever]

You mean the white people who created the industrial revolution?

Those white people?

Seriously? Black people during that era were typically servants who did the dirty work that white people were thought to be "too good" to do.

White people were losing fingers and toes in semi-automated machines. Women and children were working for pennies to be able to afford bread.

Black people during that era picked cotton.

Not all black people picked cotton during that era. But most who did, did so FREE.


Which is even LESS than "pennies".


And in some cases, if they did not pick enough, they were whipped or sold.

You should read more.

Being a slave sucked obviously, but the life of poor white people in early America was even worse.

Slaves were guaranteed food and shelter(at least until they couldn’t work or got old). Poor whites starved to death or they worked themselves until they died of illness or malnourishment just for some bread crumbs.

You mean the white people who created the industrial revolution?

Those white people?

Seriously? Black people during that era were typically servants who did the dirty work that white people were thought to be "too good" to do.

White people were losing fingers and toes in semi-automated machines. Women and children were working for pennies to be able to afford bread.

Black people during that era picked cotton.

Not all black people picked cotton during that era. But most who did, did so FREE.


Which is even LESS than "pennies".


And in some cases, if they did not pick enough, they were whipped or sold.

You should read more.

Being a slave sucked obviously, but the life of poor white people in early America was even worse.

Slaves were guaranteed food and shelter(at least until they couldn’t work or got old). Poor whites starved to death or they worked themselves until they died of illness or malnourishment just for some bread crumbs.

If you had to make a choice between being free versus being a slave, and considered less than human which would you choose?

Most sane people would choose freedom. Even if it meant being poor.

I would choose suicide.

Being poor at that time meant you either left civilization to try(and fail)to create a new one, or dying in the street.

 

[katsteve2012]

Seriously? Black people during that era were typically servants who did the dirty work that white people were thought to be "too good" to do.

White people were losing fingers and toes in semi-automated machines. Women and children were working for pennies to be able to afford bread.

Black people during that era picked cotton.

Not all black people picked cotton during that era. But most who did, did so FREE.


Which is even LESS than "pennies".


And in some cases, if they did not pick enough, they were whipped or sold.

You should read more.

Being a slave sucked obviously, but the life of poor white people in early America was even worse.

Slaves were guaranteed food and shelter(at least until they couldn’t work or got old). Poor whites starved to death or they worked themselves until they died of illness or malnourishment just for some bread crumbs.

Seriously? Black people during that era were typically servants who did the dirty work that white people were thought to be "too good" to do.

White people were losing fingers and toes in semi-automated machines. Women and children were working for pennies to be able to afford bread.

Black people during that era picked cotton.

Not all black people picked cotton during that era. But most who did, did so FREE.


Which is even LESS than "pennies".


And in some cases, if they did not pick enough, they were whipped or sold.

You should read more.

Being a slave sucked obviously, but the life of poor white people in early America was even worse.

Slaves were guaranteed food and shelter(at least until they couldn’t work or got old). Poor whites starved to death or they worked themselves until they died of illness or malnourishment just for some bread crumbs.

If you had to make a choice between being free versus being a slave, and considered less than human which would you choose?

Most sane people would choose freedom. Even if it meant being poor.

I would choose suicide.

Being poor at that time meant you either left civilization to try(and fail)to create a new one, or dying in the street.

Seriously? You would take yourself out as opposed to struggling forward?

That is incomprehensible. Living to fight on, is the spirit that kept persecuted people, no matter what their race, ethnicity or religion was from succumbing to opression.

 

[ptbw forever]

White people were losing fingers and toes in semi-automated machines. Women and children were working for pennies to be able to afford bread.

Black people during that era picked cotton.

Not all black people picked cotton during that era. But most who did, did so FREE.


Which is even LESS than "pennies".


And in some cases, if they did not pick enough, they were whipped or sold.

You should read more.

Being a slave sucked obviously, but the life of poor white people in early America was even worse.

Slaves were guaranteed food and shelter(at least until they couldn’t work or got old). Poor whites starved to death or they worked themselves until they died of illness or malnourishment just for some bread crumbs.

White people were losing fingers and toes in semi-automated machines. Women and children were working for pennies to be able to afford bread.

Black people during that era picked cotton.

Not all black people picked cotton during that era. But most who did, did so FREE.


Which is even LESS than "pennies".


And in some cases, if they did not pick enough, they were whipped or sold.

You should read more.

Being a slave sucked obviously, but the life of poor white people in early America was even worse.

Slaves were guaranteed food and shelter(at least until they couldn’t work or got old). Poor whites starved to death or they worked themselves until they died of illness or malnourishment just for some bread crumbs.

If you had to make a choice between being free versus being a slave, and considered less than human which would you choose?

Most sane people would choose freedom. Even if it meant being poor.

I would choose suicide.

Being poor at that time meant you either left civilization to try(and fail)to create a new one, or dying in the street.

Seriously? You would take yourself out as opposed to struggling forward?

That is incomprehensible. Living to fight on, is the spirit that kept persecuted people, no matter what their race, ethnicity or religion was from succumbing to opression.

There was no struggling forward.

If you were in the shoes of those poor white people you would be dead in weeks.

 

[katsteve2012]

Not all black people picked cotton during that era. But most who did, did so FREE.


Which is even LESS than "pennies".


And in some cases, if they did not pick enough, they were whipped or sold.

You should read more.

Being a slave sucked obviously, but the life of poor white people in early America was even worse.

Slaves were guaranteed food and shelter(at least until they couldn’t work or got old). Poor whites starved to death or they worked themselves until they died of illness or malnourishment just for some bread crumbs.

Not all black people picked cotton during that era. But most who did, did so FREE.


Which is even LESS than "pennies".


And in some cases, if they did not pick enough, they were whipped or sold.

You should read more.

Being a slave sucked obviously, but the life of poor white people in early America was even worse.

Slaves were guaranteed food and shelter(at least until they couldn’t work or got old). Poor whites starved to death or they worked themselves until they died of illness or malnourishment just for some bread crumbs.

If you had to make a choice between being free versus being a slave, and considered less than human which would you choose?

Most sane people would choose freedom. Even if it meant being poor.

I would choose suicide.

Being poor at that time meant you either left civilization to try(and fail)to create a new one, or dying in the street.

Seriously? You would take yourself out as opposed to struggling forward?

That is incomprehensible. Living to fight on, is the spirit that kept persecuted people, no matter what their race, ethnicity or religion was from succumbing to opression.

There was no struggling forward.

If you were in the shoes of those poor white people you would be dead in weeks.

Those "white people" that you speak of lived in a country that was created by white people FOR white people.

Those same white people, no matter how low they were within the social structure of this country were considered to be better than the most accomplished minority in American society.

 

[ptbw forever]

Being a slave sucked obviously, but the life of poor white people in early America was even worse.

Slaves were guaranteed food and shelter(at least until they couldn’t work or got old). Poor whites starved to death or they worked themselves until they died of illness or malnourishment just for some bread crumbs.

Being a slave sucked obviously, but the life of poor white people in early America was even worse.

Slaves were guaranteed food and shelter(at least until they couldn’t work or got old). Poor whites starved to death or they worked themselves until they died of illness or malnourishment just for some bread crumbs.

If you had to make a choice between being free versus being a slave, and considered less than human which would you choose?

Most sane people would choose freedom. Even if it meant being poor.

I would choose suicide.

Being poor at that time meant you either left civilization to try(and fail)to create a new one, or dying in the street.

Seriously? You would take yourself out as opposed to struggling forward?

That is incomprehensible. Living to fight on, is the spirit that kept persecuted people, no matter what their race, ethnicity or religion was from succumbing to opression.

There was no struggling forward.

If you were in the shoes of those poor white people you would be dead in weeks.

Those "white people" that you speak of lived in a country that was created by white people FOR white people.

Ok?

They starved to death all the same.

There wasn’t any social safety nets, minimum wages, free public education, section 8 housing or anything. You either found that extra nickel on the ground or you starved that day and weren’t able to work to feed yourself the next day and kept to that cycle until you died. Not to mention if they got sick.

But back to my original point, THOSE white people built this country. They did the hardest jobs this country has ever had.

 

[katsteve2012]

If you had to make a choice between being free versus being a slave, and considered less than human which would you choose?

Most sane people would choose freedom. Even if it meant being poor.

I would choose suicide.

Being poor at that time meant you either left civilization to try(and fail)to create a new one, or dying in the street.

Seriously? You would take yourself out as opposed to struggling forward?

That is incomprehensible. Living to fight on, is the spirit that kept persecuted people, no matter what their race, ethnicity or religion was from succumbing to opression.

There was no struggling forward.

If you were in the shoes of those poor white people you would be dead in weeks.

Those "white people" that you speak of lived in a country that was created by white people FOR white people.

Ok?

They starved to death all the same.

There wasn’t any social safety nets, minimum wages, free public education, section 8 housing or anything. You either found that extra nickel on the ground or you starved that day and weren’t able to work to feed yourself the next day and kept to that cycle until you died. Not to mention if they got sick.

But back to my original point, THOSE white people built this country. They did the hardest jobs this country has ever had.

Sure, they were participants in building the country. Just as all others who were here, no matter what race.

They were compensated for their work, and they did not work without pay.....no matter how paltry their wages were.

They also had the option of leaving a job, to get another job.

And leaving for another job, did not lawfully put their lives at risk.

 

[ptbw forever]

I would choose suicide.

Being poor at that time meant you either left civilization to try(and fail)to create a new one, or dying in the street.

Seriously? You would take yourself out as opposed to struggling forward?

That is incomprehensible. Living to fight on, is the spirit that kept persecuted people, no matter what their race, ethnicity or religion was from succumbing to opression.

There was no struggling forward.

If you were in the shoes of those poor white people you would be dead in weeks.

Those "white people" that you speak of lived in a country that was created by white people FOR white people.

Ok?

They starved to death all the same.

There wasn’t any social safety nets, minimum wages, free public education, section 8 housing or anything. You either found that extra nickel on the ground or you starved that day and weren’t able to work to feed yourself the next day and kept to that cycle until you died. Not to mention if they got sick.

But back to my original point, THOSE white people built this country. They did the hardest jobs this country has ever had.

Sure, they were participants in building the country. Just as all others who were here, no matter what race.

They were compensated for their work, and they did not work without pay.....no matter how paltry their wages were.

They also had the option of leaving a job, to get another job.

And leaving for another job, did not lawfully put their lives at risk.

You don’t seem to understand that this was the norm for businesses at the time. This is why unions came to be. Their new job wouldn’t be any better than their current one.

The industrial revolution was nearly all white and it built the initial infrastructure of this country.

The only long lasting contribution that black people gave to this country is Jazz and Blues.

 

[ABikerSailor]

Seriously? You would take yourself out as opposed to struggling forward?

That is incomprehensible. Living to fight on, is the spirit that kept persecuted people, no matter what their race, ethnicity or religion was from succumbing to opression.

There was no struggling forward.

If you were in the shoes of those poor white people you would be dead in weeks.

Those "white people" that you speak of lived in a country that was created by white people FOR white people.

Ok?

They starved to death all the same.

There wasn’t any social safety nets, minimum wages, free public education, section 8 housing or anything. You either found that extra nickel on the ground or you starved that day and weren’t able to work to feed yourself the next day and kept to that cycle until you died. Not to mention if they got sick.

But back to my original point, THOSE white people built this country. They did the hardest jobs this country has ever had.

Sure, they were participants in building the country. Just as all others who were here, no matter what race.

They were compensated for their work, and they did not work without pay.....no matter how paltry their wages were.

They also had the option of leaving a job, to get another job.

And leaving for another job, did not lawfully put their lives at risk.

You don’t seem to understand that this was the norm for businesses at the time. This is why unions came to be. Their new job wouldn’t be any better than their current one.

The industrial revolution was nearly all white and it built the initial infrastructure of this country.

The only long lasting contribution that black people gave to this country is Jazz and Blues.

Really? What about George Washington Carver? What about the Tuskegee Airmen? What about the Buffalo Soldiers?

 

[ptbw forever]

There was no struggling forward.

If you were in the shoes of those poor white people you would be dead in weeks.

Those "white people" that you speak of lived in a country that was created by white people FOR white people.

Ok?

They starved to death all the same.

There wasn’t any social safety nets, minimum wages, free public education, section 8 housing or anything. You either found that extra nickel on the ground or you starved that day and weren’t able to work to feed yourself the next day and kept to that cycle until you died. Not to mention if they got sick.

But back to my original point, THOSE white people built this country. They did the hardest jobs this country has ever had.

Sure, they were participants in building the country. Just as all others who were here, no matter what race.

They were compensated for their work, and they did not work without pay.....no matter how paltry their wages were.

They also had the option of leaving a job, to get another job.

And leaving for another job, did not lawfully put their lives at risk.

You don’t seem to understand that this was the norm for businesses at the time. This is why unions came to be. Their new job wouldn’t be any better than their current one.

The industrial revolution was nearly all white and it built the initial infrastructure of this country.

The only long lasting contribution that black people gave to this country is Jazz and Blues.

Really? What about George Washington Carver? What about the Tuskegee Airmen?

What about them?

Did George Washington Carver discover that peanuts were edible?

Did the Tuskegee Airmen invent the airplane?

Jazz and Blues are far more significant.

 

[ABikerSailor]

Those "white people" that you speak of lived in a country that was created by white people FOR white people.

Ok?

They starved to death all the same.

There wasn’t any social safety nets, minimum wages, free public education, section 8 housing or anything. You either found that extra nickel on the ground or you starved that day and weren’t able to work to feed yourself the next day and kept to that cycle until you died. Not to mention if they got sick.

But back to my original point, THOSE white people built this country. They did the hardest jobs this country has ever had.

Sure, they were participants in building the country. Just as all others who were here, no matter what race.

They were compensated for their work, and they did not work without pay.....no matter how paltry their wages were.

They also had the option of leaving a job, to get another job.

And leaving for another job, did not lawfully put their lives at risk.

You don’t seem to understand that this was the norm for businesses at the time. This is why unions came to be. Their new job wouldn’t be any better than their current one.

The industrial revolution was nearly all white and it built the initial infrastructure of this country.

The only long lasting contribution that black people gave to this country is Jazz and Blues.

Really? What about George Washington Carver? What about the Tuskegee Airmen?

What about them?

Did George Washington Carver discover that peanuts were edible?

Did the Tuskegee Airmen invent the airplane?

Jazz and Blues are far more significant.

Actually, Carver figured out many different uses for the peanut. He was also a pioneer in crop rotation, which helped out farmers immensely.

While the Tuskegee Airmen didn't invent the airplane, they were some of the best pilots ever to fly in WWII, and they protected Allied bombers, greatly helping out the war effort. If it wasn't for the Tuskegee Airmen, there would have been a whole bunch more bomber crews that would have been killed or captured.

And, the Buffalo Soldiers were instrumental in helping settle the West.

 

[ptbw forever]

Ok?

They starved to death all the same.

There wasn’t any social safety nets, minimum wages, free public education, section 8 housing or anything. You either found that extra nickel on the ground or you starved that day and weren’t able to work to feed yourself the next day and kept to that cycle until you died. Not to mention if they got sick.

But back to my original point, THOSE white people built this country. They did the hardest jobs this country has ever had.

Sure, they were participants in building the country. Just as all others who were here, no matter what race.

They were compensated for their work, and they did not work without pay.....no matter how paltry their wages were.

They also had the option of leaving a job, to get another job.

And leaving for another job, did not lawfully put their lives at risk.

You don’t seem to understand that this was the norm for businesses at the time. This is why unions came to be. Their new job wouldn’t be any better than their current one.

The industrial revolution was nearly all white and it built the initial infrastructure of this country.

The only long lasting contribution that black people gave to this country is Jazz and Blues.

Really? What about George Washington Carver? What about the Tuskegee Airmen?

What about them?

Did George Washington Carver discover that peanuts were edible?

Did the Tuskegee Airmen invent the airplane?

Jazz and Blues are far more significant.

Actually, Carver figured out many different uses for the peanut. He was also a pioneer in crop rotation, which helped out farmers immensely.

While the Tuskegee Airmen didn't invent the airplane, they were some of the best pilots ever to fly in WWII, and they protected Allied bombers, greatly helping out the war effort. If it wasn't for the Tuskegee Airmen, there would have been a whole bunch more bomber crews that would have been killed or captured.

Sure, and black women started NASA....