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The funny things people will say jsut to get in a jab at me
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I like it. It's a corollary to "not to take a choice is a choice', IMO.He actually said this on a song I did with him, and it's profound in many ways and he told me he had a lot of down-time in Federal Prison to think about this.
This statement will probably favor well with Right leaning members, and left-leaning members may not like it all that much but I have to say, I 100% agree with it and we should talk about it. It will be fun/interesting.
So, in a song, he was talking about picking himself up and what he said was "Not to have a choice, is a choice."
How's that ring with you?
Choosing to not have a choice doesn't make sense in my brain.
Maybe too many beers in college are to blame, but someone of greater intellect help me out.
It's sort of a metaphor which means: that usually when people settle @ saying "but I didn't have any other choice" - - - - -
it was a choice to settle at that, because there's always another way.
Thanks, yeah that's a great line for deep thinkers lol.
Can i ask what he got in trouble for?
I think Rush said it first. Better ask Mani.
That's not what he was referring to (Voting). He was referring to letting your circumstances get the better of you - - - - as being a choice.
I think if they sserved their time they can vote.
its a state to state thing
Agreed...and they should be able to legally own a firearm.
So if they where a violent offender who used a gun in their crime you would support them being able to own another gun after they served their time?
He actually said this on a song I did with him, and it's profound in many ways and he told me he had a lot of down-time in Federal Prison to think about this.
This statement will probably favor well with Right leaning members, and left-leaning members may not like it all that much but I have to say, I 100% agree with it and we should talk about it. It will be fun/interesting.
So, in a song, he was talking about picking himself up and what he said was "Not to have a choice, is a choice."
How's that ring with you?
No, that was a choice, well, many of the same choices over and over again.I like it. It's a corollary to "not to take a choice is a choice', IMO.He actually said this on a song I did with him, and it's profound in many ways and he told me he had a lot of down-time in Federal Prison to think about this.
This statement will probably favor well with Right leaning members, and left-leaning members may not like it all that much but I have to say, I 100% agree with it and we should talk about it. It will be fun/interesting.
So, in a song, he was talking about picking himself up and what he said was "Not to have a choice, is a choice."
How's that ring with you?
SO basically when Obama voted present 100,000,000,000,000 times in the illinois senate, he really did make a choice afterall.
He actually said this on a song I did with him, and it's profound in many ways and he told me he had a lot of down-time in Federal Prison to think about this.
This statement will probably favor well with Right leaning members, and left-leaning members may not like it all that much but I have to say, I 100% agree with it and we should talk about it. It will be fun/interesting.
So, in a song, he was talking about picking himself up and what he said was "Not to have a choice, is a choice."
How's that ring with you?
Not if they commited a crime with a gun
So someone CAN be rehabilitated enough to retain their voting privileges but not all the other guarantees afforded citizens? Shall you be the one to determine which rights are granted and which are not? What if his crime was voter fraud? Your inconsistency here smacks more of an anti-gun bias than a logical opinion on felony punishment after time is served.
Not if they commited a crime with a gun
So someone CAN be rehabilitated enough to retain their voting privileges but not all the other guarantees afforded citizens? Shall you be the one to determine which rights are granted and which are not? What if his crime was voter fraud? Your inconsistency here smacks more of an anti-gun bias than a logical opinion on felony punishment after time is served.
Its not an inconsistancy.
They have proven a danger to soceity.
they can not kill anyone by voting.
Not if they commited a crime with a gun
So someone CAN be rehabilitated enough to retain their voting privileges but not all the other guarantees afforded citizens? Shall you be the one to determine which rights are granted and which are not? What if his crime was voter fraud? Your inconsistency here smacks more of an anti-gun bias than a logical opinion on felony punishment after time is served.
Rights come with responsibilities. You have the right to own a gun, but you also have responsibility to use that gun within the law. If you violate that right you no longer are afforded that right.
If you have a career criminal who votes for people who cater to criminals and votes for people who undermine our justice system in return for those votes, he should not have that right. Our justice system and judicial system should not be effected in any way shape or form by those who are career criminals.
Now a lesser offensive offender I could agree should be able to vote, your none career offenders and low security inmates.
It's funny how the left always screams "rights rights rights!!!", but when it comes to responsibilities they get all pissed off about it.
I think if they sserved their time they can vote.
its a state to state thing
Agreed...and they should be able to legally own a firearm.
He actually said this on a song I did with him, and it's profound in many ways and he told me he had a lot of down-time in Federal Prison to think about this.
This statement will probably favor well with Right leaning members, and left-leaning members may not like it all that much but I have to say, I 100% agree with it and we should talk about it. It will be fun/interesting.
So, in a song, he was talking about picking himself up and what he said was "Not to have a choice, is a choice."
How's that ring with you?
What federal prison was he in?
He always said "up North" so I'm assuming the Lake George / Adirondack area.
So someone CAN be rehabilitated enough to retain their voting privileges but not all the other guarantees afforded citizens? Shall you be the one to determine which rights are granted and which are not? What if his crime was voter fraud? Your inconsistency here smacks more of an anti-gun bias than a logical opinion on felony punishment after time is served.
Its not an inconsistancy.
They have proven a danger to soceity.
they can not kill anyone by voting.
But they can effect and undermine our judicial system with such votes.