I will not Bow!

[montelatici]

The original Jews were there under sufferance for over 4,000 years, the arab muslims arrived during the 19c as itinerant farm workers looking for work. The Ottomans invited European Jews to migrate to Palestine as the arab muslims refused to stay there long enough to set down roots. The Ottomans allowed the Jews to buy land and to work it unhindered and unarmed. Israel is similar to Europe because Europe is a tried and tested model of democracy and endeavour. Islam is a failed dictatorship that has splintered and became unstable.

As far as Europe is concerned Israel is part of Europe as it is a European style nation with European standards. Many Americans work in the CERN labs and are also engaged in the development of the Navigation system. The satellite system has been up and running for some years now, and because of it the need for morse code has been dropped for all radio spectrum users.


Ask your imam for more up to date information in future as he is feeding you BULLSHIT.

Have actually read what I wrote? You are agreeing with me. You are so wrapped up in hate and anger you can't think or comprehend what is being written. Grow up

But you and those in the boiled room are so wrapped up trying to show that the land actually belongs to the Arabs that you really appear like a bunch of Energizer Bunnies who are charged up each morning when you enter the boiler room and told to set forth on as many forums as you can get to all day long.. I guess the boiler room gals and guys can't stand to see the Jews governing one tiny, tiny piece of real estate in the Middle East. Meanwhile, it's a shame that the rest of the Middle East countries weren't more like European countries so that they would be more advanced instead of being the way they are now. Can you imagine how those Bedouin (which early travelers to the Holy Land saw) lived before the Jews made that swamp land livable? The only places that looked livable were the cities where the Jews resided.

When have I said the land belongs to the "Arabs". I have said that the Christians and Muslims of Palestine that were not evicted from their homes and land should be afforded a decent life and should not be held under occupation.

There were hardly any Jews to populate these cities you speak of, before 1850 Palestine had only a "handful" of Jews according to the British Interim Report of the Mandatory, and I quote:

"The country is under-populated because of this lack of development. There are now in the whole of Palestine hardly 700,000 people, a population much less than that of the province of Gallilee alone in the time of Christ.* (*See Sir George Adam Smith "Historical Geography of the Holy Land", Chap. 20.) Of these 235,000 live in the larger towns, 465,000 in the smaller towns and villages. Four-fifths of the whole population are Moslems. A small proportion of these are Bedouin Arabs; the remainder, although they speak Arabic and are termed Arabs, are largely of mixed race. Some 77,000 of the population are Christians, in large majority belonging to the Orthodox Church, and speaking Arabic. The minority are members of the Latin or of the Uniate Greek Catholic Church, or--a small number--are Protestants.

The Jewish element of the population numbers 76,000. Almost all have entered Palestine during the last 40 years. Prior to 1850 there were in the country only a handful of Jews. In the following 30 years a few hundreds came to Palestine. Most of them were animated by religious motives; they came to pray and to die in the Holy Land, and to be buried in its soil. -

See more at: Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations/Balfour Declaration text (30 July 1921)

 

[Sally]

Have actually read what I wrote? You are agreeing with me. You are so wrapped up in hate and anger you can't think or comprehend what is being written. Grow up

But you and those in the boiled room are so wrapped up trying to show that the land actually belongs to the Arabs that you really appear like a bunch of Energizer Bunnies who are charged up each morning when you enter the boiler room and told to set forth on as many forums as you can get to all day long.. I guess the boiler room gals and guys can't stand to see the Jews governing one tiny, tiny piece of real estate in the Middle East. Meanwhile, it's a shame that the rest of the Middle East countries weren't more like European countries so that they would be more advanced instead of being the way they are now. Can you imagine how those Bedouin (which early travelers to the Holy Land saw) lived before the Jews made that swamp land livable? The only places that looked livable were the cities where the Jews resided.

When have I said the land belongs to the "Arabs". I have said that the Christians and Muslims of Palestine that were not evicted from their homes and land should be afforded a decent life and should not be held under occupation.

There were hardly any Jews to populate these cities you speak of, before 1850 Palestine had only a "handful" of Jews according to the British Interim Report of the Mandatory, and I quote:

"The country is under-populated because of this lack of development. There are now in the whole of Palestine hardly 700,000 people, a population much less than that of the province of Gallilee alone in the time of Christ.* (*See Sir George Adam Smith "Historical Geography of the Holy Land", Chap. 20.) Of these 235,000 live in the larger towns, 465,000 in the smaller towns and villages. Four-fifths of the whole population are Moslems. A small proportion of these are Bedouin Arabs; the remainder, although they speak Arabic and are termed Arabs, are largely of mixed race. Some 77,000 of the population are Christians, in large majority belonging to the Orthodox Church, and speaking Arabic. The minority are members of the Latin or of the Uniate Greek Catholic Church, or--a small number--are Protestants.

The Jewish element of the population numbers 76,000. Almost all have entered Palestine during the last 40 years. Prior to 1850 there were in the country only a handful of Jews. In the following 30 years a few hundreds came to Palestine. Most of them were animated by religious motives; they came to pray and to die in the Holy Land, and to be buried in its soil. -

See more at: Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations/Balfour Declaration text (30 July 1921)

Strange then that foreign visitors to the Holy Land years before saw very few Arabs, mainly Bedouins. I wonder where all these Arabs were hiding out. As an aside, I find it amazing how these boiler room people such as Haniya and her sidekick Defeat67 get on this forum and are here all day long along of course with the other forums they are on. They are so devoted to their cause of trying to get the readers to believe that the Jews have no right to govern Israel because all that land in the Middle East should really be governed by the Muslims. I hope they have time to take a coffee break now and then. Meanwhile, they apparently have no interest in what is going on in the rest of the Middle East no matter how many people are killed. The rest of the Middle East is governed by Muslims and they can't blame the Israelis for what is going on. Say, speaking of Christians, has anyone seen Haniya and her sidekick Defeat67 talk about the Christians being afforded a better life in the rest of the Muslim world without these unfortunate Christians being harassed and murdered and their churches destroyed.

Jews to no one's land

 

[montelatici]

But you and those in the boiled room are so wrapped up trying to show that the land actually belongs to the Arabs that you really appear like a bunch of Energizer Bunnies who are charged up each morning when you enter the boiler room and told to set forth on as many forums as you can get to all day long.. I guess the boiler room gals and guys can't stand to see the Jews governing one tiny, tiny piece of real estate in the Middle East. Meanwhile, it's a shame that the rest of the Middle East countries weren't more like European countries so that they would be more advanced instead of being the way they are now. Can you imagine how those Bedouin (which early travelers to the Holy Land saw) lived before the Jews made that swamp land livable? The only places that looked livable were the cities where the Jews resided.

When have I said the land belongs to the "Arabs". I have said that the Christians and Muslims of Palestine that were not evicted from their homes and land should be afforded a decent life and should not be held under occupation.

There were hardly any Jews to populate these cities you speak of, before 1850 Palestine had only a "handful" of Jews according to the British Interim Report of the Mandatory, and I quote:

"The country is under-populated because of this lack of development. There are now in the whole of Palestine hardly 700,000 people, a population much less than that of the province of Gallilee alone in the time of Christ.* (*See Sir George Adam Smith "Historical Geography of the Holy Land", Chap. 20.) Of these 235,000 live in the larger towns, 465,000 in the smaller towns and villages. Four-fifths of the whole population are Moslems. A small proportion of these are Bedouin Arabs; the remainder, although they speak Arabic and are termed Arabs, are largely of mixed race. Some 77,000 of the population are Christians, in large majority belonging to the Orthodox Church, and speaking Arabic. The minority are members of the Latin or of the Uniate Greek Catholic Church, or--a small number--are Protestants.

The Jewish element of the population numbers 76,000. Almost all have entered Palestine during the last 40 years. Prior to 1850 there were in the country only a handful of Jews. In the following 30 years a few hundreds came to Palestine. Most of them were animated by religious motives; they came to pray and to die in the Holy Land, and to be buried in its soil. -

See more at: Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations/Balfour Declaration text (30 July 1921)

Strange then that foreign visitors to the Holy Land years before saw very few Arabs, mainly Bedouins. I wonder where all these Arabs were hiding out. As an aside, I find it amazing how these boiler room people such as Haniya and her sidekick Defeat67 get on this forum and are here all day long along of course with the other forums they are on. They are so devoted to their cause of trying to get the readers to believe that the Jews have no right to govern Israel because all that land in the Middle East should really be governed by the Muslims. I hope they have time to take a coffee break now and then. Meanwhile, they apparently have no interest in what is going on in the rest of the Middle East no matter how many people are killed. The rest of the Middle East is governed by Muslims and they can't blame the Israelis for what is going on. Say, speaking of Christians, has anyone seen Haniya and her sidekick Defeat67 talk about the Christians being afforded a better life in the rest of the Muslim world without these unfortunate Christians being harassed and murdered and their churches destroyed.

Jews to no one's land

Of course I contribute to threads on forums that discuss the oppression of Christians, which are I may add, the most oppressed people in the world. You are a little deranged, I'm afraid.

 

[Hossfly]

Have actually read what I wrote? You are agreeing with me. You are so wrapped up in hate and anger you can't think or comprehend what is being written. Grow up

But you and those in the boiled room are so wrapped up trying to show that the land actually belongs to the Arabs that you really appear like a bunch of Energizer Bunnies who are charged up each morning when you enter the boiler room and told to set forth on as many forums as you can get to all day long.. I guess the boiler room gals and guys can't stand to see the Jews governing one tiny, tiny piece of real estate in the Middle East. Meanwhile, it's a shame that the rest of the Middle East countries weren't more like European countries so that they would be more advanced instead of being the way they are now. Can you imagine how those Bedouin (which early travelers to the Holy Land saw) lived before the Jews made that swamp land livable? The only places that looked livable were the cities where the Jews resided.

When have I said the land belongs to the "Arabs". I have said that the Christians and Muslims of Palestine that were not evicted from their homes and land should be afforded a decent life and should not be held under occupation.

There were hardly any Jews to populate these cities you speak of, before 1850 Palestine had only a "handful" of Jews according to the British Interim Report of the Mandatory, and I quote:

"The country is under-populated because of this lack of development. There are now in the whole of Palestine hardly 700,000 people, a population much less than that of the province of Gallilee alone in the time of Christ.* (*See Sir George Adam Smith "Historical Geography of the Holy Land", Chap. 20.) Of these 235,000 live in the larger towns, 465,000 in the smaller towns and villages. Four-fifths of the whole population are Moslems. A small proportion of these are Bedouin Arabs; the remainder, although they speak Arabic and are termed Arabs, are largely of mixed race. Some 77,000 of the population are Christians, in large majority belonging to the Orthodox Church, and speaking Arabic. The minority are members of the Latin or of the Uniate Greek Catholic Church, or--a small number--are Protestants.

The Jewish element of the population numbers 76,000. Almost all have entered Palestine during the last 40 years. Prior to 1850 there were in the country only a handful of Jews. In the following 30 years a few hundreds came to Palestine. Most of them were animated by religious motives; they came to pray and to die in the Holy Land, and to be buried in its soil. -

See more at: Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations/Balfour Declaration text (30 July 1921)

See more at Exodus 19:1-6

 

[pbel]

But you and those in the boiled room are so wrapped up trying to show that the land actually belongs to the Arabs that you really appear like a bunch of Energizer Bunnies who are charged up each morning when you enter the boiler room and told to set forth on as many forums as you can get to all day long.. I guess the boiler room gals and guys can't stand to see the Jews governing one tiny, tiny piece of real estate in the Middle East. Meanwhile, it's a shame that the rest of the Middle East countries weren't more like European countries so that they would be more advanced instead of being the way they are now. Can you imagine how those Bedouin (which early travelers to the Holy Land saw) lived before the Jews made that swamp land livable? The only places that looked livable were the cities where the Jews resided.

When have I said the land belongs to the "Arabs". I have said that the Christians and Muslims of Palestine that were not evicted from their homes and land should be afforded a decent life and should not be held under occupation.

There were hardly any Jews to populate these cities you speak of, before 1850 Palestine had only a "handful" of Jews according to the British Interim Report of the Mandatory, and I quote:

"The country is under-populated because of this lack of development. There are now in the whole of Palestine hardly 700,000 people, a population much less than that of the province of Gallilee alone in the time of Christ.* (*See Sir George Adam Smith "Historical Geography of the Holy Land", Chap. 20.) Of these 235,000 live in the larger towns, 465,000 in the smaller towns and villages. Four-fifths of the whole population are Moslems. A small proportion of these are Bedouin Arabs; the remainder, although they speak Arabic and are termed Arabs, are largely of mixed race. Some 77,000 of the population are Christians, in large majority belonging to the Orthodox Church, and speaking Arabic. The minority are members of the Latin or of the Uniate Greek Catholic Church, or--a small number--are Protestants.

The Jewish element of the population numbers 76,000. Almost all have entered Palestine during the last 40 years. Prior to 1850 there were in the country only a handful of Jews. In the following 30 years a few hundreds came to Palestine. Most of them were animated by religious motives; they came to pray and to die in the Holy Land, and to be buried in its soil. -

See more at: Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations/Balfour Declaration text (30 July 1921)

See more at Exodus 19:1-6

Gee, never thought you could be a Bible Thumper, Hoss...How about John:3-16, and all that good stuff about peace?

Ya'll got to stop reading that Old Testament it is full of violence and hate...Read the New Testament. Its full of love.

 

[Hossfly]

When have I said the land belongs to the "Arabs". I have said that the Christians and Muslims of Palestine that were not evicted from their homes and land should be afforded a decent life and should not be held under occupation.

There were hardly any Jews to populate these cities you speak of, before 1850 Palestine had only a "handful" of Jews according to the British Interim Report of the Mandatory, and I quote:

"The country is under-populated because of this lack of development. There are now in the whole of Palestine hardly 700,000 people, a population much less than that of the province of Gallilee alone in the time of Christ.* (*See Sir George Adam Smith "Historical Geography of the Holy Land", Chap. 20.) Of these 235,000 live in the larger towns, 465,000 in the smaller towns and villages. Four-fifths of the whole population are Moslems. A small proportion of these are Bedouin Arabs; the remainder, although they speak Arabic and are termed Arabs, are largely of mixed race. Some 77,000 of the population are Christians, in large majority belonging to the Orthodox Church, and speaking Arabic. The minority are members of the Latin or of the Uniate Greek Catholic Church, or--a small number--are Protestants.

The Jewish element of the population numbers 76,000. Almost all have entered Palestine during the last 40 years. Prior to 1850 there were in the country only a handful of Jews. In the following 30 years a few hundreds came to Palestine. Most of them were animated by religious motives; they came to pray and to die in the Holy Land, and to be buried in its soil. -

See more at: Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations/Balfour Declaration text (30 July 1921)

See more at Exodus 19:1-6

Gee, never thought you could be a Bible Thumper, Hoss...How about John:3-16, and all that good stuff about peace?

Ya'll got to stop reading that Old Testament it is full of violence and hate...Read the New Testament. Its full of love.

Not a Bible thumper. Ex. 19:1-6 lays out the ground rules.

 

[Billo_Really]

More failure from Billo the lying propagandist!
All you showed me was a couple of skirmishes between Jordan and Israel BEFORE the war started in June. LOL . Nice try. Would you like to try again??

No need.

Those weren't just "skirmishes", that was Israel attacking Jordan, after you claimed...

As for you last paragraph and statement, you made absolutely no sense. Jordan joined the war that was between Israel and Egypt . It had nothing to do with Jordan. You always complain that 'Israel attacked first', well Jordqn attacked Israel in this case. Such a simple concept, yet you can't even comprehend it.
Lol that was fun!

Hey dude, you're the one who brought Jordan into the conversation between Israel and Egypt, not me.

I was saying Israel started the war when it sent its tanks into Egypt and you shot back with...






At least have the balls to own up to the things you say.

 

[Hossfly]

More failure from Billo the lying propagandist!
All you showed me was a couple of skirmishes between Jordan and Israel BEFORE the war started in June. LOL . Nice try. Would you like to try again??

No need.

Those weren't just "skirmishes", that was Israel attacking Jordan, after you claimed...

As for you last paragraph and statement, you made absolutely no sense. Jordan joined the war that was between Israel and Egypt . It had nothing to do with Jordan. You always complain that 'Israel attacked first', well Jordqn attacked Israel in this case. Such a simple concept, yet you can't even comprehend it.
Lol that was fun!

Hey dude, you're the one who brought Jordan into the conversation between Israel and Egypt, not me.

I was saying Israel started the war when it sent its tanks into Egypt and you shot back with...






At least have the balls to own up to the things you say.

You're projecting again, Billo. Go soak your head and calm down.

 

[Billo_Really]

You're projecting again, Billo. Go soak your head and calm down.

What am I projecting?

Are you saying toasty didn't say that?

 

[toastman]

More failure from Billo the lying propagandist!
All you showed me was a couple of skirmishes between Jordan and Israel BEFORE the war started in June. LOL . Nice try. Would you like to try again??

No need.

Those weren't just "skirmishes", that was Israel attacking Jordan, after you claimed...

As for you last paragraph and statement, you made absolutely no sense. Jordan joined the war that was between Israel and Egypt . It had nothing to do with Jordan. You always complain that 'Israel attacked first', well Jordqn attacked Israel in this case. Such a simple concept, yet you can't even comprehend it.
Lol that was fun!

Hey dude, you're the one who brought Jordan into the conversation between Israel and Egypt, not me.

I was saying Israel started the war when it sent its tanks into Egypt and you shot back with...






At least have the balls to own up to the things you say.

Jordan attacked Israel first DURING THE 6 day war. In other words, Jordan entered the war on their own means.
How you didn't manage to understand that is beyond me , Billo.

 

[toastman]

More failure from Billo the lying propagandist!
All you showed me was a couple of skirmishes between Jordan and Israel BEFORE the war started in June. LOL . Nice try. Would you like to try again??

No need.

Those weren't just "skirmishes", that was Israel attacking Jordan, after you claimed...

As for you last paragraph and statement, you made absolutely no sense. Jordan joined the war that was between Israel and Egypt . It had nothing to do with Jordan. You always complain that 'Israel attacked first', well Jordqn attacked Israel in this case. Such a simple concept, yet you can't even comprehend it.
Lol that was fun!

Hey dude, you're the one who brought Jordan into the conversation between Israel and Egypt, not me.

I was saying Israel started the war when it sent its tanks into Egypt and you shot back with...






At least have the balls to own up to the things you say.

Also, you always mention Israel doing this and that, but you never mention why they do it Billo.

Do you thing the IDF commanders wake up in the morning and say" hey, lets go shoot mortars at Jordan for absolutely no reason at all"

 

[Billo_Really]

Also, you always mention Israel doing this and that, but you never mention why they do it Billo.

Do you thing the IDF commanders wake up in the morning and say" hey, lets go shoot mortars at Jordan for absolutely no reason at all"

The "why", was stated in the link I provided.

Israel wanted the land and the water.

 

[Billo_Really]

Jordan attacked Israel first DURING THE 6 day war. In other words, Jordan entered the war on their own means.
How you didn't manage to understand that is beyond me , Billo.

The discussion was regarding who started the 6 Day War and you shot back with...

"Jordan attacked first..."​

Back-peddle all you want, it won't change what you said.

 

[P F Tinmore]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Yes, they did. You are making arbitrary requirements so as to fit your agenda.

Israel declared independence on the land allotted to it in the partition plan. We've been through this many times Tinmore.

The Armistice agreements, which you CONSTANTLY bring up, have nothing to do with what you're talking about.

Israel never claimed the land or recognized the proposed borders of resolution 181.

(COMMENT)

The Declaration of Independence clearly states it coordinated with the UNPC in accordance with General Assembly Resolution 181(II). The border dispute arose after the Invasion and External Interference of the Arab League. The resulting tactical military outcome changed some of the territorial controls.

We have all heard a gazillion times that Israel accepted resolution 181 and the Palestinians rejected it. It is true that the Palestinians rejected the partition of their country as they had the right to do and as anyone else in the world would have done.

However, let's look at Israel's so called acceptance.

1) Israel rejected the proposed borders and was attacking and expelling Palestinians outside of those borders before its declaration.

2) Israel rejected an international Jerusalem by attacking and expelling Palestinians from Jerusalem before its declaration.

3) Israel rejected the rights of the non Jewish population by attacking the Muslims and Christians in Palestine.​

So, what part of resolution 181 did Israel accept?

(SIDEBAR)

You periodically make these claims as if there is some substance to them. You overlook the point that the Arab Armies conspired to attack Israel even before it was proclaimed. It was an effort, by the Arabs, to use force (right of conquest) to attain control of territory the UN said was Partitioned. The Arab chose invasion and war; discarding the Rule of Law. And they now live with the outcome of that set of decisions.

You cannot set your own criteria - under your agenda - and demand that - a half century after the fact, they be met. The Arab League Armies crossed their borders, invading the Partitioned Territory, and openly attacked the Jewish Nation in order to overturn the establishment of Israel. Remembering that Israel was established in accordance with the steps preparatory to independence set by the UN. The Arabs attempted to overturn by force, the right of self-determination exercised by the Israeli People. The Arabs were the aggressor, the external interference, and the territorial invader; leaving their sovereignty and entering another. They couldn't have been more in the wrong then if they were an Axis Power.

The concept of inalienable national rights of the people applies equally as well to the Jewish People as it does to the Palestinian People.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Snouter]

See more at Exodus 19:1-6

Do you have any idea where Mount Sinai is? It's not anywhere near where zionists are currently occupying land.

But that brings up one of the many inconsistencies and lies in the Old Testament. Yahweh said he was from Egypt in Hos. 12:9 and says he was from Sinai in Deut. 33:2.

 

[Snouter]

Ya'll got to stop reading that Old Testament it is full of violence and hate...Read the New Testament. Its full of love.

Not sure if you are serious, but reread the material again. The Yahweh monster invented death as punishment from Adam and Eve indirectly worshiping the Goddess according to the Old Testament. But the Jesus monster invented eternal torture in a BBQ for not believing he was the messiah to help the folks from the tribe of Judah overthrow Rome.

 

[Phoenall]

Ya'll got to stop reading that Old Testament it is full of violence and hate...Read the New Testament. Its full of love.

Not sure if you are serious, but reread the material again. The Yahweh monster invented death as punishment from Adam and Eve indirectly worshiping the Goddess according to the Old Testament. But the Jesus monster invented eternal torture in a BBQ for not believing he was the messiah to help the folks from the tribe of Judah overthrow Rome.

Maybe you should be the one to read the scriptures a little bit more, as no Hell is mentioned by Jesus at all. That is a construct of the Catholic church to enslave the people even more.

 

[Phoenall]

The original settlers were European and they set forth how Israel would be governed the type of society it would be and in this implemented European style system, it is what they knew and were. It doesn't matter that later, immigrants came from outside Europe. The die was cast and today Israel is very similar to Europe.

It's not just the membership in UEFA, they are the only non-European country in European organizations like CERN, the European Union’s Framework Programme for Research and Technical Development, the EU’s Galileo project for a Global Navigation Satellite System, Euromed Cultural Heritage, FEMISE, ArchiMedes etc.

The original Jews were there under sufferance for over 4,000 years, the arab muslims arrived during the 19c as itinerant farm workers looking for work. The Ottomans invited European Jews to migrate to Palestine as the arab muslims refused to stay there long enough to set down roots. The Ottomans allowed the Jews to buy land and to work it unhindered and unarmed. Israel is similar to Europe because Europe is a tried and tested model of democracy and endeavour. Islam is a failed dictatorship that has splintered and became unstable.

As far as Europe is concerned Israel is part of Europe as it is a European style nation with European standards. Many Americans work in the CERN labs and are also engaged in the development of the Navigation system. The satellite system has been up and running for some years now, and because of it the need for morse code has been dropped for all radio spectrum users.


Ask your imam for more up to date information in future as he is feeding you BULLSHIT.

Have actually read what I wrote? You are agreeing with me. You are so wrapped up in hate and anger you can't think or comprehend what is being written. Grow up

Maybe you should take remedial English little boy, the arab muslims forced Israel into joining the European groups and are now seeing they have done the wrong thing. Imagine how strong the arabs would be if they had welcomed the Jews instead of trying to eradicate them. How they would have benefitted from the massive leaps in the field of medicine and computer engineering, instead of being 20 years behind the rest of the world.

So once again your fellow ISLAMONAZI's have missed a chance to be better because of RELIGOUS and RACIST hatreds.

 

[Phoenall]

Have actually read what I wrote? You are agreeing with me. You are so wrapped up in hate and anger you can't think or comprehend what is being written. Grow up

But you and those in the boiled room are so wrapped up trying to show that the land actually belongs to the Arabs that you really appear like a bunch of Energizer Bunnies who are charged up each morning when you enter the boiler room and told to set forth on as many forums as you can get to all day long.. I guess the boiler room gals and guys can't stand to see the Jews governing one tiny, tiny piece of real estate in the Middle East. Meanwhile, it's a shame that the rest of the Middle East countries weren't more like European countries so that they would be more advanced instead of being the way they are now. Can you imagine how those Bedouin (which early travelers to the Holy Land saw) lived before the Jews made that swamp land livable? The only places that looked livable were the cities where the Jews resided.

When have I said the land belongs to the "Arabs". I have said that the Christians and Muslims of Palestine that were not evicted from their homes and land should be afforded a decent life and should not be held under occupation.

There were hardly any Jews to populate these cities you speak of, before 1850 Palestine had only a "handful" of Jews according to the British Interim Report of the Mandatory, and I quote:

"The country is under-populated because of this lack of development. There are now in the whole of Palestine hardly 700,000 people, a population much less than that of the province of Gallilee alone in the time of Christ.* (*See Sir George Adam Smith "Historical Geography of the Holy Land", Chap. 20.) Of these 235,000 live in the larger towns, 465,000 in the smaller towns and villages. Four-fifths of the whole population are Moslems. A small proportion of these are Bedouin Arabs; the remainder, although they speak Arabic and are termed Arabs, are largely of mixed race. Some 77,000 of the population are Christians, in large majority belonging to the Orthodox Church, and speaking Arabic. The minority are members of the Latin or of the Uniate Greek Catholic Church, or--a small number--are Protestants.

The Jewish element of the population numbers 76,000. Almost all have entered Palestine during the last 40 years. Prior to 1850 there were in the country only a handful of Jews. In the following 30 years a few hundreds came to Palestine. Most of them were animated by religious motives; they came to pray and to die in the Holy Land, and to be buried in its soil. -

See more at: Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations/Balfour Declaration text (30 July 1921)

Don't you bother reading the links provided that show the Christians and the Jews were enslaved by the muslims. How the laws of dhimma made their very existence hell, with murders and rapes being commonplace. How the muslims could murder the father of a girl they wanted as a sex slave with complete immunity from any prosecution. How the dhimmis were beaten when they attended the local jizya office to pay their protection momey. They were allowed a tiny part of religious freedom as long as it was behind closed doors and in secret. No repairs to their homes or religious buildings, no new ones to rise above the height of the lowest muslim one. No weapons allowed, no fighting any wars unless they converted first. No horses only asses and donkeys, no white clothing and distinguishing marks on the clothes they were allowed to wear. That was the fate under Islamic rule for Christians and Jews.


Now go and read a non ISLAMONAZI or ANTISEMITIC JEW HATRED report of the reality of Palestine, and how the ottomans begged the Jews of Europe to colonise the land and make it fertile because the muslims were not capable of doing so.

 

[Phoenall]

When have I said the land belongs to the "Arabs". I have said that the Christians and Muslims of Palestine that were not evicted from their homes and land should be afforded a decent life and should not be held under occupation.

There were hardly any Jews to populate these cities you speak of, before 1850 Palestine had only a "handful" of Jews according to the British Interim Report of the Mandatory, and I quote:

"The country is under-populated because of this lack of development. There are now in the whole of Palestine hardly 700,000 people, a population much less than that of the province of Gallilee alone in the time of Christ.* (*See Sir George Adam Smith "Historical Geography of the Holy Land", Chap. 20.) Of these 235,000 live in the larger towns, 465,000 in the smaller towns and villages. Four-fifths of the whole population are Moslems. A small proportion of these are Bedouin Arabs; the remainder, although they speak Arabic and are termed Arabs, are largely of mixed race. Some 77,000 of the population are Christians, in large majority belonging to the Orthodox Church, and speaking Arabic. The minority are members of the Latin or of the Uniate Greek Catholic Church, or--a small number--are Protestants.

The Jewish element of the population numbers 76,000. Almost all have entered Palestine during the last 40 years. Prior to 1850 there were in the country only a handful of Jews. In the following 30 years a few hundreds came to Palestine. Most of them were animated by religious motives; they came to pray and to die in the Holy Land, and to be buried in its soil. -

See more at: Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations/Balfour Declaration text (30 July 1921)

Strange then that foreign visitors to the Holy Land years before saw very few Arabs, mainly Bedouins. I wonder where all these Arabs were hiding out. As an aside, I find it amazing how these boiler room people such as Haniya and her sidekick Defeat67 get on this forum and are here all day long along of course with the other forums they are on. They are so devoted to their cause of trying to get the readers to believe that the Jews have no right to govern Israel because all that land in the Middle East should really be governed by the Muslims. I hope they have time to take a coffee break now and then. Meanwhile, they apparently have no interest in what is going on in the rest of the Middle East no matter how many people are killed. The rest of the Middle East is governed by Muslims and they can't blame the Israelis for what is going on. Say, speaking of Christians, has anyone seen Haniya and her sidekick Defeat67 talk about the Christians being afforded a better life in the rest of the Muslim world without these unfortunate Christians being harassed and murdered and their churches destroyed.

Jews to no one's land

Of course I contribute to threads on forums that discuss the oppression of Christians, which are I may add, the most oppressed people in the world. You are a little deranged, I'm afraid.

Yes they are and the evidence points to the muslims being the greatest offenders of this oppression. In gaza alone the Christian population has declined due to the oppression by the muslim extremists and ethnic cleansing. Do you discuss that or do you band the muslim drum and claim it is all down to the Jews.