I will not Bow!

[Billo_Really]

Do you approve of the sex slave gangs?

No, of coarse not.

What are you defending them for?

I'm not. Are you that vapid, to actually believe that's what I was doing?

 

[Phoenall]

Why don't you join the IDF, but I doubt you have the balls.

That is not an answer to the sidebar being discussed.

As to having 'balls', I did join my own country's Army during wartime.

Not that I'm obliged to answer to you in such matters - merely clearing the air, mindful of our colleagues.

Have you served your country in such a way?

Getting back to the sidebar at hand...

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The Palestinians can surrender...

Or they can die...

A matter of almost complete indifference, to much of the rest of the world...

Marines, doggy boy.

I did not realise that land locked iraq had any marines

 

[Phoenall]

Do you mean like this shit for brains

MUSLIM GROOMING / PAEDO MAP | Kafir Crusaders

Child sex slave gangs in EVERY city in Britain: Thames Valley Police chief's warning after Oxford grooming horror - Mirror Online

» 500 Muslim Sex Grooming Cases In 6 Months

You gotta be shittin' me!

As proof, you use two racist blog rags that are more whack than you are?

And that's hard to do, because you're pretty out there!

Shows the scope and severity of the problem doesn't it, and proves that islam is dangerous even in small doses.

 

[Phoenall]

Do you mean like this shit for brains

MUSLIM GROOMING / PAEDO MAP | Kafir Crusaders

Child sex slave gangs in EVERY city in Britain: Thames Valley Police chief's warning after Oxford grooming horror - Mirror Online

» 500 Muslim Sex Grooming Cases In 6 Months

You gotta be shittin' me!

As proof, you use two racist blog rags that are more whack than you are?

And that's hard to do, because you're pretty out there!

Do you approve of the sex slave gangs? What are you defending them for?

We have dhimmi doing the same thing in the UK, trying to blame 11 and 12 year old girls for being raped by muslim gangs. One group in particular known as the chuckleheads, Aris will remember them, go so far as to deny that there is a problem and that the girls were to blame for enticing them in the first place.
Just waiting now for billo to come up with Catholic Priests and their child abuse.

 

[Phoenall]

Except she is living in her homeland. Palestinian Jews can live in Palestine.

Israel is not the palestinian state that confirms palestinian citizenship on it's people.
In Israel the arabs are Israelis, not palestinians. If she is in her homeland then she should say she is Israeli. If she does not like being Israel, she has the right to leave.

As for palestinian jews...... Abbas won't accept any. The PA/palestine is to be judenrein.

Jews were kicked out the the WB by Jordan. There are no palestinian jews, they had to go to Israel or elsewhere, or convert.

It would be logical to give the jews palestinian citizenship, but that option was rejected.
No jews in palestine! It does not matter that jews used to live and own property before Jordan annex the WB. It does not matter that settlements were build on land that was purchased, unregistered or state land. Abbas, because of extremist pressure will have no palestinian jews.

What does that have to do with anything?

She is living in her homeland.

And her homeland is Israel not Palestine, if she sees her homeland as Palestine then she should move to gaza or the west bank. That is if the Palestinians will have her

 

[Phoenall]

Israel is not the palestinian state that confirms palestinian citizenship on it's people.
In Israel the arabs are Israelis, not palestinians. If she is in her homeland then she should say she is Israeli. If she does not like being Israel, she has the right to leave.

As for palestinian jews...... Abbas won't accept any. The PA/palestine is to be judenrein.

Jews were kicked out the the WB by Jordan. There are no palestinian jews, they had to go to Israel or elsewhere, or convert.

It would be logical to give the jews palestinian citizenship, but that option was rejected.
No jews in palestine! It does not matter that jews used to live and own property before Jordan annex the WB. It does not matter that settlements were build on land that was purchased, unregistered or state land. Abbas, because of extremist pressure will have no palestinian jews.

What does that have to do with anything?

She is living in her homeland.

In international law, when a state is dissolved and new states are established, “the population follows the change of sovereignty in matters of nationality.”5 As a rule, therefore, citizens of the former state should automatically acquire the nationality of the successor state in which they had already been residing.

5 Ian Brownlie, “The Relations of Nationality in Public International Law,” The British Year Book of International Law, 1963, p. 220.

Does that mean that, by international law, Palestinian refugees are really Israelis?

Interesting thought.

Not quite as you well know, it does mean those Palestinians left in the country after the 1948/1949 arab war can take on Israeli citizenship. Those that left or were expelled cant and became stateless people until they took on the citizenship of any nation that took them in.
In the case of the mandate of Palestine all indigenous of the British mandate became protected British citizens of Palestine until such time as they formed their own nations and proved they could exist on their own.

 

[Phoenall]

Do you approve of the sex slave gangs?

No, of coarse not.

What are you defending them for?

I'm not. Are you that vapid, to actually believe that's what I was doing?

That is exactly what you did rather than look at the content of the links, you could always try googling it yourself and see how many hits you get..............

 

[P F Tinmore]

What does that have to do with anything?

She is living in her homeland.

In international law, when a state is dissolved and new states are established, “the population follows the change of sovereignty in matters of nationality.”5 As a rule, therefore, citizens of the former state should automatically acquire the nationality of the successor state in which they had already been residing.

5 Ian Brownlie, “The Relations of Nationality in Public International Law,” The British Year Book of International Law, 1963, p. 220.

Does that mean that, by international law, Palestinian refugees are really Israelis?

Interesting thought.

Not quite as you well know, it does mean those Palestinians left in the country after the 1948/1949 arab war can take on Israeli citizenship. Those that left or were expelled cant and became stateless people until they took on the citizenship of any nation that took them in.
In the case of the mandate of Palestine all indigenous of the British mandate became protected British citizens of Palestine until such time as they formed their own nations and proved they could exist on their own.

People do not relinquish their homes by being temporarily away for any reason.

 

[MrMax]

Does that mean that, by international law, Palestinian refugees are really Israelis?
Interesting thought.

Not quite as you well know, it does mean those Palestinians left in the country after the 1948/1949 arab war can take on Israeli citizenship. Those that left or were expelled cant and became stateless people until they took on the citizenship of any nation that took them in.
In the case of the mandate of Palestine all indigenous of the British mandate became protected British citizens of Palestine until such time as they formed their own nations and proved they could exist on their own.

People do not relinquish their homes by being temporarily away for any reason.

But they do relinquish their homes when they start a war and then promptly lose it.

Btw, when are you giving your land back to the Indians?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Not quite as you well know, it does mean those Palestinians left in the country after the 1948/1949 arab war can take on Israeli citizenship. Those that left or were expelled cant and became stateless people until they took on the citizenship of any nation that took them in.
In the case of the mandate of Palestine all indigenous of the British mandate became protected British citizens of Palestine until such time as they formed their own nations and proved they could exist on their own.

People do not relinquish their homes by being temporarily away for any reason.

But they do relinquish their homes when they start a war and then promptly lose it.

Btw, when are you giving your land back to the Indians?

The Palestinians started a war?

Where did you get that?

 

[Sweet_Caroline]

People do not relinquish their homes by being temporarily away for any reason.

But they do relinquish their homes when they start a war and then promptly lose it.

Btw, when are you giving your land back to the Indians?

The Palestinians started a war?

Where did you get that?

 

[MrMax]

People do not relinquish their homes by being temporarily away for any reason.

But they do relinquish their homes when they start a war and then promptly lose it.

Btw, when are you giving your land back to the Indians?

The Palestinians started a war?

Where did you get that?

Holy Hairsplitting Batman!!!

Arabs. Muslims. Brown skinned carpet kissers. Whatever. They're all one and the same.

So, you give your land back to the indians yet?

 

[P F Tinmore]

But they do relinquish their homes when they start a war and then promptly lose it.

Btw, when are you giving your land back to the Indians?

The Palestinians started a war?

Where did you get that?

Holy Hairsplitting Batman!!!

Arabs. Muslims. Brown skinned carpet kissers. Whatever. They're all one and the same.

So, you give your land back to the indians yet?

Of course you duck the question.

 

[MrMax]

The Palestinians started a war?

Where did you get that?

Holy Hairsplitting Batman!!!

Arabs. Muslims. Brown skinned carpet kissers. Whatever. They're all one and the same.

So, you give your land back to the indians yet?

Of course you duck the question.

Arabs attacked Israel and lost in '67, remember?

So, you give your land back to the indians yet? Or are you ducking my question?

 

[pbel]

But they do relinquish their homes when they start a war and then promptly lose it.

Btw, when are you giving your land back to the Indians?

The Palestinians started a war?

Where did you get that?

Holy Hairsplitting Batman!!!

Arabs. Muslims. Brown skinned carpet kissers. Whatever. They're all one and the same.

So, you give your land back to the indians yet?

I just love this logic...The way it works is through Demographics...Although America managed to decimate the Native peoples, their cousins from South America are slowly getting it back.

For example Texas recently became a Hispanic majority State...Demographers project Hispanics to be a majority in the USA within 50 years.

Yes the Indians are getting it back. Press one for Spanish...

Israel should learn that Demographics do their silent work at a steady pace.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Holy Hairsplitting Batman!!!

Arabs. Muslims. Brown skinned carpet kissers. Whatever. They're all one and the same.

So, you give your land back to the indians yet?

Of course you duck the question.

Arabs attacked Israel and lost in '67, remember?

So, you give your land back to the indians yet? Or are you ducking my question?

That wasn't the question.

 

[Kondor3]

Does that mean that, by international law, Palestinian refugees are really Israelis?

Interesting thought.

Not quite as you well know, it does mean those Palestinians left in the country after the 1948/1949 arab war can take on Israeli citizenship. Those that left or were expelled cant and became stateless people until they took on the citizenship of any nation that took them in.
In the case of the mandate of Palestine all indigenous of the British mandate became protected British citizens of Palestine until such time as they formed their own nations and proved they could exist on their own.

People do not relinquish their homes by being temporarily away for any reason.

When you leave your homes at the orders of Enemy Leadership, and run away to Enemy-controlled territory, and take sides with the Enemy, you've blown your chance at citizenship, and forfeited your lands and homes.

Don't like it?

Come and take them back.

If you can.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Not quite as you well know, it does mean those Palestinians left in the country after the 1948/1949 arab war can take on Israeli citizenship. Those that left or were expelled cant and became stateless people until they took on the citizenship of any nation that took them in.
In the case of the mandate of Palestine all indigenous of the British mandate became protected British citizens of Palestine until such time as they formed their own nations and proved they could exist on their own.

People do not relinquish their homes by being temporarily away for any reason.

When you leave your homes at the orders of Enemy Leadership, and run away to Enemy-controlled territory, and take sides with the Enemy, you've blown your chance at citizenship, and forfeited your lands and homes.

Don't like it?

Come and take them back.

If you can.

Can you provide the law that says that?

 

[Kondor3]

People do not relinquish their homes by being temporarily away for any reason.

When you leave your homes at the orders of Enemy Leadership, and run away to Enemy-controlled territory, and take sides with the Enemy, you've blown your chance at citizenship, and forfeited your lands and homes.

Don't like it?

Come and take them back.

If you can.

Can you provide the law that says that?

Nope.

Still, the concept is operative.

You can take whatever 'law' you have in mind to the contrary and use it to augment your supply of toilet paper, for all the good it is ever going to do you.

Such things happen all the time, everywhere around the world, when folks (1) choose the wrong side, (2) abandon their lands, (3) run to the enemy camp, and (4) take sides with the enemy.

Confiscation... seizure... forfeiture... spoils of war... doesn't matter what it's called.

And all the pissant set-aside legal standing in the world isn't gonna change that, Tinny.

If none of that is going to change anything, why pursue it?

Oh... of course... how rude of me... I've forgotten... old, set-aside legal standing is all you have to fight with, for all practical purposes... it's not like you can change things by force-of-arms.

 

[Phoenall]

Does that mean that, by international law, Palestinian refugees are really Israelis?

Interesting thought.

Not quite as you well know, it does mean those Palestinians left in the country after the 1948/1949 arab war can take on Israeli citizenship. Those that left or were expelled cant and became stateless people until they took on the citizenship of any nation that took them in.
In the case of the mandate of Palestine all indigenous of the British mandate became protected British citizens of Palestine until such time as they formed their own nations and proved they could exist on their own.

People do not relinquish their homes by being temporarily away for any reason.

Depends on the reasons, and if they include abandonment and sedition then they do lose their homes for good. Every civilised nation has laws similar to this and enforce them, even the USA. Same with any enemy of the state can be dispossessed of their property and deported for their acts of warfare.

Read the rules of war as written in International law and you see that the muslims don't have any real right of return now as the majority have died out.