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I'd rather live in capitalist America than a third-world nation anyday. Maybe a loaf of bread costs a dollar more, but at least I'm not starving to death.
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I'd rather live in capitalist America than a third-world nation anyday. Maybe a loaf of bread costs a dollar more, but at least I'm not starving to death.
Simple the racist BDS movement has forced the companies to buy their ingredients from a higher priced source, costing everyone money. On top of which the quality is much reduced.
Of course.
Anything to demonize the Israelis.
Most of the Godwin-esque bile being vomited-up by the pro-Palestinian side is like that.
Weak-assed analogies and even weaker and more embarrassingly amateurish segues.
Whatever it takes, to set up the context, to throw another rock.
Most of it's funny, but it does tend to stink-up the place after a while, and requires a hosing-down from time to time.
Their wild-assed and hairy claims about Displacement and Casus Belli and who-started-what are far more worthy of a Josef Goebbels or Stalin or (now) Putin.
Funniest of all is the idea that they keep pitchin' the same tired old shit and don't realize that people stopped listening decades ago.
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What he said is the kind of shit I would expect from Sherri.
RoccoR
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Billo_Really, toastman, et al,
This is a common misconception; and a crutch. It is used by the Hostile Arab Palestinian and pro-Palestinian Movements to justify and substantiate their continued hostilities and criminal activities against the decisions made nearly a century ago, to protect the culture and people of the Jewish Nation, long under persecution and diaspora.
The consequences we see unfolding today, whether we look at the establishment of a Jewish National Home, or the particular situation revolving around the West Bank and Gaza Strip are not (as our friend Billo_Really would have us believe) totally to be laid at the feet of the Jewish People (or the greater Israeli community).
While it can be said that the Jewish made have been the spark behind the idea of rallying the Jewish People and returning them to the Middle East, the concept fuel would have been more the benevolent action of Sultan Bayezid II (1447 - 1512) and maybe even to a time of his predecessor Sultan Fatih Mehmed (1429 - 1481). For it was the Sultan, the sovereign of the Empire (including Palestine) that issue the first invitations to the Jewish People to return ("Listen sons of the Hebrew who live in my country...May all of you who desire come to Constantinople and may the rest of your people find here a shelter."). It was the Sultan, that dispatch Kemal Reis (1451-1511), Grand Ottoman Navy, and Commander of the Mediterranean Turkish Fleet, to rescue both Muslims and Jews (people of the Semitic-language) (1490-1492) escaping persecution throughout Europe during the Spanish and Goa Inquisitions by Christians. Admiral Reis, under Imperial Orders, returned them to the provinces of the Ottoman Empire which welcomed them. However, the Sultan did not approve of a separate Jewish National Home in Palestine (the Sultan wanted integration not separation). This was made plain in the meeting between Sultan Abdulhamid II (1840-1918) and Theodor Herzl; even when Herzl offered £150M pounds sterling in gold in 1901 (the equiv of £1.1T today). This became one of the reasons that Jewish gradually shifted their support away from the Ottoman Empire in favor of the British.
The Allied Powers noted that during the Middle East Pogrom by Arabs (1840s-1907 specifically targeting Jews), the Jewish culture and communities paid a heavy price; mostly over religious differences. By the time WWI broke-out, the Jewish People had developed a rapport with the Allied Powers such that the sympathy expressed in the Balfour Declaration and San Remo Convention began to materialize. However, the sentiments expressed as causes in the Middle East Pogrom by Arabs continued to grow.
Then came the holocaust and WWII, and the historical post-War decision of November 1947.
----> Can anyone lay blame "for 100% of any problem regarding Israeli/Palestinian issues," (Billo_Really) at the feet of the Jews and Israel? There are so many factors, and so many influences, to this dynamic "issue" (if that is what you want to call it), that only a fool would suggest it. Certainly the Hostile Arabs of the League, as well as those of Palestine, made vast contributions to the scope and nature of hostilities.
No one has clean hands (including Israel); but, least of all is the ----> Arab.
Most Respectfully,
R
This is a common misconception; and a crutch. It is used by the Hostile Arab Palestinian and pro-Palestinian Movements to justify and substantiate their continued hostilities and criminal activities against the decisions made nearly a century ago, to protect the culture and people of the Jewish Nation, long under persecution and diaspora.
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The consequences we see unfolding today, whether we look at the establishment of a Jewish National Home, or the particular situation revolving around the West Bank and Gaza Strip are not (as our friend Billo_Really would have us believe) totally to be laid at the feet of the Jewish People (or the greater Israeli community).
While it can be said that the Jewish made have been the spark behind the idea of rallying the Jewish People and returning them to the Middle East, the concept fuel would have been more the benevolent action of Sultan Bayezid II (1447 - 1512) and maybe even to a time of his predecessor Sultan Fatih Mehmed (1429 - 1481). For it was the Sultan, the sovereign of the Empire (including Palestine) that issue the first invitations to the Jewish People to return ("Listen sons of the Hebrew who live in my country...May all of you who desire come to Constantinople and may the rest of your people find here a shelter."). It was the Sultan, that dispatch Kemal Reis (1451-1511), Grand Ottoman Navy, and Commander of the Mediterranean Turkish Fleet, to rescue both Muslims and Jews (people of the Semitic-language) (1490-1492) escaping persecution throughout Europe during the Spanish and Goa Inquisitions by Christians. Admiral Reis, under Imperial Orders, returned them to the provinces of the Ottoman Empire which welcomed them. However, the Sultan did not approve of a separate Jewish National Home in Palestine (the Sultan wanted integration not separation). This was made plain in the meeting between Sultan Abdulhamid II (1840-1918) and Theodor Herzl; even when Herzl offered £150M pounds sterling in gold in 1901 (the equiv of £1.1T today). This became one of the reasons that Jewish gradually shifted their support away from the Ottoman Empire in favor of the British.
The Allied Powers noted that during the Middle East Pogrom by Arabs (1840s-1907 specifically targeting Jews), the Jewish culture and communities paid a heavy price; mostly over religious differences. By the time WWI broke-out, the Jewish People had developed a rapport with the Allied Powers such that the sympathy expressed in the Balfour Declaration and San Remo Convention began to materialize. However, the sentiments expressed as causes in the Middle East Pogrom by Arabs continued to grow.
Then came the holocaust and WWII, and the historical post-War decision of November 1947.
----> Can anyone lay blame "for 100% of any problem regarding Israeli/Palestinian issues," (Billo_Really) at the feet of the Jews and Israel? There are so many factors, and so many influences, to this dynamic "issue" (if that is what you want to call it), that only a fool would suggest it. Certainly the Hostile Arabs of the League, as well as those of Palestine, made vast contributions to the scope and nature of hostilities.
No one has clean hands (including Israel); but, least of all is the ----> Arab.
Most Respectfully,
R
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Rocco, the problem with people like Billo is that every time we bring up something that the Gazans have to Israel, weather its a barrage of rockets or a militant sniping an Israeli worker by the separation fence, they will always justify the hostility by saying that it was i. Retaliation cir this and that. Another one for their justifications is that these hostilities are a means of defence . Well, the latter is more of Tinmores style
Palestinian Mentality.
Everything we do is self-defense.
Everything you do is aggression.
None of this is our fault.
Everything is your fault.
We did nothing wrong.
You are evil.
We will survive.
You are doomed.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, endless ******* blah...
Everything we do is self-defense.
Everything you do is aggression.
None of this is our fault.
Everything is your fault.
We did nothing wrong.
You are evil.
We will survive.
You are doomed.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, endless ******* blah...
RoccoR
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Kondor, et al,
Ah, yes...
The Sonata of the Virtual Palestinian Victim (VpV). Maybe you can just imagine traditional Italian violin music playing in the background as an Arab ensemble of high-pitched whining Palestinian voices plaintively sing out the (zaghruta) ululation.
Most Respectfully,
R
Ah, yes...
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The Sonata of the Virtual Palestinian Victim (VpV). Maybe you can just imagine traditional Italian violin music playing in the background as an Arab ensemble of high-pitched whining Palestinian voices plaintively sing out the (zaghruta) ululation.
[ame="http://youtu.be/Md7OvU5JIcI"]http://youtu.be/Md7OvU5JIcI[/ame]
Most Respectfully,
R
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Hossfly
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That's Sherri Muffinpan! I'd recognize her trill in a tornado!
Billo_Really
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Billo_Really
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Godwin never dealt with whether the comparison is valid, which, in this case, it is.
Validity is in the eye of the beholder.
US foreign policy confirms the Opposition Viewpoint on the subject.
Billo_Really
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It's not shit! Because if it was shit, you'd be able to successfully argue against each point. Instead, you can't even bring yourself to address any of the points I made.
All you can muster is personal attacks, because the shit I laid down, was good shit!
Billo_Really
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Not in this case.
WTF does that have to do with the Israeli's treating the Palestinian's, like the Nazis treated the jews?
Incorrect.
The Israelis are not treating the Palestinians like the Nazis treated the Jews.
US Foreign Policy towards Israel confirms that perspective.
Are you 100% positive that your reply to the question when have the Jews gassed anyone and you replied with a video showing crowd dispersal using tear gas does not say that you did.
Only if you are a NAZI ANTI SEMITIC JEW HATER. If you are sane then the comparison is a pack of lies
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