I told you those numbers weren't real.

[Hafar1014]

Economist are accusing the trump *administration of fudging the numbers to make a faltering economy look better than it really is.

They noted the same things I did. A lack of real data, prices that don't line up with the numbers released by the government, and "imputing" data where there was none (basically guessing).

And they aren't likely to get any more accurate for a while either.

Trump admin fudged the numbers to make faltering economy look better: economists

Los Angeles Times reporter Michael Hiltzik writes that President Donald Trump and his helpers are cheering prematurely over some good economic numbers that came out this month.On Dec. 18, the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) reported that inflation had fallen to an annual rate of 2.7 percent in...

www.alternet.org

And I know you're gonna attack the source but I had to find you one without a paywall.

What economist? The economy is thriving under Trump after the Biden disaster.
We have 4.3% GDP, wages up, inflation slowing, record DOW, largest tax cut for the middle class, wages increasing, gas under 3 dollars, rents down, 2 interest rate cuts, more tax deductions for the working class, increased child deductions. I dont see a problem.

 

[Crepitus]

What economist? The economy is thriving under Trump after the Biden disaster.
We have 4.3% GDP, wages up, inflation slowing, record DOW, largest tax cut for the middle class, wages increasing, gas under 3 dollars, rents down, 2 interest rate cuts, more tax deductions for the working class, increased child deductions. I dont see a problem.

Yeah... nope.

 

[Hafar1014]

Yeah... nope.

Nope thats it. Even you can look up the facts.

 

[Crepitus]

Nope thats it. Even you can look up the facts.

The supoosed "facts are what we are discussing here, lol.

 

[Hafar1014]

The supoosed "facts are what we are discussing here, lol.

View attachment 1201336

Year in review: How President Trump’s economic agenda is shaping up so far

Trump's economic agenda shows mixed results with 4% growth and cooling inflation. New tariffs and tax cuts reshape the economic outlook for America.

www.foxbusiness.com

U.S. stocks rally​

Not to mention a strong year for U.S. stocks, with the S&P 500, the broadest measure of the stock market, ending 2025 with a gain of 17%.

S&P 500

.
Here’s a look at the key developments defining Trump’s economy to date.

Strong growth, easing inflation​

The economy grew faster than expected in late 2025, with overall output rising at an annual pace of about 4% to 4.5% in the third quarter. Trump administration officials say that growth was driven by Americans spending more money and businesses feeling confident enough to invest and hire.

CONSERVATIVE STATES SEE LOWER INFLATION THAN LIBERAL ONES NATIONWIDE, WHITE HOUSE DATA SHOWS

At the same time, inflation, the pace at which prices rise, has cooled.

Prices rose 2.7% in November, compared with a year earlier, less than the 3.1% economists had estimated.

Together, those trends could shape how Trump and the Federal Reserve approach interest rates and the broader economy in the months ahead. Market watchers are forecasting the Fed's first rate cut will come in April 2026, according to the CME's FedWatch Tool, which tracks the probability of rate moves.

Trump's One Big Beautiful Bill Act​

U.S. President Donald Trump, joined by Republican lawmakers, signs the One, Big Beautiful Bill Act into law during an Independence Day military family picnic on the South Lawn of the White House on July 4, 2025. (Samuel Corum/Getty Images / Getty Images)
Signed into law on July 4, Trump’s flagship One Big Beautiful Bill Act (OBBBA) is a far-reaching tax and spending measure that builds on the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA) from his first term while launching new federal initiatives.

FIVE MAJOR POLICIES TO KNOW FROM THE ONE BIG BEAUTIFUL BILL ACT

The legislation extends expiring TCJA tax cuts, preventing a broad tax increase for individuals and makes permanent lower income tax rates and an expanded standard deduction. Other provisions are extended temporarily, reshaping the tax landscape for households and businesses.

The bill also clears the way for campaign pledges like "No Tax on Tips" and "No Tax on Overtime" to take effect in 2026, while introducing new long-term savings programs.

IRS OUTLINES NO TAX ON TIPS

Big tax refunds​

Trump's economic team is telling Americans to prepare for some of the biggest tax refunds in history, as a result of provisions in the OBBBA.

"I can see that we’re gonna have a gigantic refund year in the first quarter, because working Americans did not change their withholdings," U.S. Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent told the "All-In Podcast" hosts. "I think households could see, depending on the number of workers, $1,000 to $2,000 refunds."


Bessent's prediction echoes that of the Tax Foundation, a nonpartisan tax policy nonprofit. The group said in a Dec. 17 report that "refunds will be larger than typical in the upcoming filing season because of the One Big Beautiful Bill Act’s (OBBBA) tax cuts for 2025."

Trump accounts​

For kids, the accounts function much like traditional long-term investment vehicles but with rules specifically designed to protect young savers. Available only to those under 18, they’re funded through federal seed money, private contributions from families and, when applicable, supplemental deposits from employers or nonprofit organizations.

Individuals can contribute up to $5,000 per year to a Trump account. Governments and nonprofits may also make eligible contributions. In addition, funds from another Trump account may be rolled over, meaning money already held in one Trump account can be transferred directly into a new or different Trump account without counting toward the annual contribution limit.

Employers participating in a Trump account program may contribute up to $2,500 per year.

Michael Dell (L), CEO of Dell Technologies, and his wife Susan (2nd-L) speak during an announcement of a $6.25 billion donation from the Dell family to "Trump Accounts," in the Roosevelt Room of the White House in Washington, D.C., on December 2, 202 (Andrew Caballero-Reynolds/ AFP/Getty Images / Getty Images)
In December, two prominent billionaires joined funding for Trump accounts. Michael and Susan Dell were the first to pledge over $6 billion. Later, investor Ray Dalio joined the cause.

Launch of ‘Liberation Day’ tariffs​

President Donald Trump announces reciprocal tariffs during an event in the Rose Garden at the White House. (Brendan Smialowski/AFP via Getty Images / Getty Images)
In April, Trump announced sweeping "Liberation Day" tariffs aimed at reducing long-standing trade imbalances, reviving U.S. manufacturing and strengthening national security. Critics countered that higher tariffs could raise consumer prices and provoke retaliation from trading partners.

TRUMP SAYS TARIFF REVENUE TO FUND $2K CHECKS FOR AMERICANS, LOWER NATION’S $38T DEBT


Even so, total duty revenue reached $215.2 billion in fiscal year 2025, which ended Sept. 30, according to the Treasury Department’s Customs and Certain Excise Taxes report. That momentum continued into the new fiscal year, with $96.5 billion collected since Oct. 1, Treasury data show.

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The strategy now faces a legal challenge, with the Supreme Court expected to rule in January on Trump’s authority to impose certain tariffs.

The cases — Learning Resources Inc. v. Trump and Trump v. V.O.S. Selections Inc. — brought by an educational toy maker and a family-owned wine and spirits importer, focus on whether the International Emergency Economic Powers Act grants the president that power or exceeds constitutional limits.

CLICK HERE TO GET FOX BUSINESS ON THE GO

The president maintains, however, that aggressive tariffs are necessary to confront what he considers years of unfair global trade, a stance that shows how firmly trade policy is embedded in his broader economic strategy.

Trump has also vowed that revenue generated from duties could fund a $2,000 dividend for low- and middle-income Americans.

​

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[Crepitus]

Year in review: How President Trump’s economic agenda is shaping up so far

Trump's economic agenda shows mixed results with 4% growth and cooling inflation. New tariffs and tax cuts reshape the economic outlook for America.

www.foxbusiness.com

U.S. stocks rally​

Not to mention a strong year for U.S. stocks, with the S&P 500, the broadest measure of the stock market, ending 2025 with a gain of 17%.

S&P 500

.
Here’s a look at the key developments defining Trump’s economy to date.

Strong growth, easing inflation​

The economy grew faster than expected in late 2025, with overall output rising at an annual pace of about 4% to 4.5% in the third quarter. Trump administration officials say that growth was driven by Americans spending more money and businesses feeling confident enough to invest and hire.

CONSERVATIVE STATES SEE LOWER INFLATION THAN LIBERAL ONES NATIONWIDE, WHITE HOUSE DATA SHOWS

At the same time, inflation, the pace at which prices rise, has cooled.

Prices rose 2.7% in November, compared with a year earlier, less than the 3.1% economists had estimated.

Together, those trends could shape how Trump and the Federal Reserve approach interest rates and the broader economy in the months ahead. Market watchers are forecasting the Fed's first rate cut will come in April 2026, according to the CME's FedWatch Tool, which tracks the probability of rate moves.

Trump's One Big Beautiful Bill Act​

U.S. President Donald Trump, joined by Republican lawmakers, signs the One, Big Beautiful Bill Act into law during an Independence Day military family picnic on the South Lawn of the White House on July 4, 2025. (Samuel Corum/Getty Images / Getty Images)
Signed into law on July 4, Trump’s flagship One Big Beautiful Bill Act (OBBBA) is a far-reaching tax and spending measure that builds on the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA) from his first term while launching new federal initiatives.

FIVE MAJOR POLICIES TO KNOW FROM THE ONE BIG BEAUTIFUL BILL ACT

The legislation extends expiring TCJA tax cuts, preventing a broad tax increase for individuals and makes permanent lower income tax rates and an expanded standard deduction. Other provisions are extended temporarily, reshaping the tax landscape for households and businesses.

The bill also clears the way for campaign pledges like "No Tax on Tips" and "No Tax on Overtime" to take effect in 2026, while introducing new long-term savings programs.

IRS OUTLINES NO TAX ON TIPS

Big tax refunds​

Trump's economic team is telling Americans to prepare for some of the biggest tax refunds in history, as a result of provisions in the OBBBA.

"I can see that we’re gonna have a gigantic refund year in the first quarter, because working Americans did not change their withholdings," U.S. Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent told the "All-In Podcast" hosts. "I think households could see, depending on the number of workers, $1,000 to $2,000 refunds."


Bessent's prediction echoes that of the Tax Foundation, a nonpartisan tax policy nonprofit. The group said in a Dec. 17 report that "refunds will be larger than typical in the upcoming filing season because of the One Big Beautiful Bill Act’s (OBBBA) tax cuts for 2025."

Trump accounts​

For kids, the accounts function much like traditional long-term investment vehicles but with rules specifically designed to protect young savers. Available only to those under 18, they’re funded through federal seed money, private contributions from families and, when applicable, supplemental deposits from employers or nonprofit organizations.

Individuals can contribute up to $5,000 per year to a Trump account. Governments and nonprofits may also make eligible contributions. In addition, funds from another Trump account may be rolled over, meaning money already held in one Trump account can be transferred directly into a new or different Trump account without counting toward the annual contribution limit.

Employers participating in a Trump account program may contribute up to $2,500 per year.

Michael Dell (L), CEO of Dell Technologies, and his wife Susan (2nd-L) speak during an announcement of a $6.25 billion donation from the Dell family to "Trump Accounts," in the Roosevelt Room of the White House in Washington, D.C., on December 2, 202 (Andrew Caballero-Reynolds/ AFP/Getty Images / Getty Images)
In December, two prominent billionaires joined funding for Trump accounts. Michael and Susan Dell were the first to pledge over $6 billion. Later, investor Ray Dalio joined the cause.

Launch of ‘Liberation Day’ tariffs​

President Donald Trump announces reciprocal tariffs during an event in the Rose Garden at the White House. (Brendan Smialowski/AFP via Getty Images / Getty Images)
In April, Trump announced sweeping "Liberation Day" tariffs aimed at reducing long-standing trade imbalances, reviving U.S. manufacturing and strengthening national security. Critics countered that higher tariffs could raise consumer prices and provoke retaliation from trading partners.

TRUMP SAYS TARIFF REVENUE TO FUND $2K CHECKS FOR AMERICANS, LOWER NATION’S $38T DEBT


Even so, total duty revenue reached $215.2 billion in fiscal year 2025, which ended Sept. 30, according to the Treasury Department’s Customs and Certain Excise Taxes report. That momentum continued into the new fiscal year, with $96.5 billion collected since Oct. 1, Treasury data show.

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The strategy now faces a legal challenge, with the Supreme Court expected to rule in January on Trump’s authority to impose certain tariffs.

The cases — Learning Resources Inc. v. Trump and Trump v. V.O.S. Selections Inc. — brought by an educational toy maker and a family-owned wine and spirits importer, focus on whether the International Emergency Economic Powers Act grants the president that power or exceeds constitutional limits.

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The president maintains, however, that aggressive tariffs are necessary to confront what he considers years of unfair global trade, a stance that shows how firmly trade policy is embedded in his broader economic strategy.

Trump has also vowed that revenue generated from duties could fund a $2,000 dividend for low- and middle-income Americans.

​

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[Hafar1014]

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Is what defines you since you can post an actual thought

 

[Crepitus]

Is what defines you since you can post an actual thought

My thoughts are in the OP.

 

[sealybobo]

I said 0.07% and corrected it to 0.7, you just added even more zeros! lol!

Our economy grew by 4.3%, inflation is going down, unemployment is still under 5% and most Americans are doing fine.

1. Don't trust the government's numbers. Trump not only lies he fires people who tell the truth. He fired the woman who came out with the June numbers because the number was bad. That's pathetic. How can you trust him moving forward?

2. They said on the news that because of the government shut down, we don't have all the numbers.

3. The latest US inflation report for December 2025 showed the annual Consumer Price Index (CPI) remained steady at 2.7%. The year-over-year core inflation rate, which excludes volatile food and energy prices, was 2.6%.
I think the goal is 2%. Ah, now I see what you are doing. You're saying it's only .7 higher than what they want. Yea, but 2024 was a horrible year for inflation and Trump ran on bringing prices down. I just heard on the news prices aren't coming down.

Grocery Prices Are 'Never' Coming Down, Experts Say​

Trump’s Treasury Goon Admits House Prices Are Not Going to Come Down​

 

[Hafar1014]

1. Don't trust the government's numbers. Trump not only lies he fires people who tell the truth. He fired the woman who came out with the June numbers because the number was bad. That's pathetic. How can you trust him moving forward?

2. They said on the news that because of the government shut down, we don't have all the numbers.

3. The latest US inflation report for December 2025 showed the annual Consumer Price Index (CPI) remained steady at 2.7%. The year-over-year core inflation rate, which excludes volatile food and energy prices, was 2.6%.
I think the goal is 2%. Ah, now I see what you are doing. You're saying it's only .7 higher than what they want. Yea, but 2024 was a horrible year for inflation and Trump ran on bringing prices down. I just heard on the news prices aren't coming down.

Grocery Prices Are 'Never' Coming Down, Experts Say​

Trump’s Treasury Goon Admits House Prices Are Not Going to Come Down​

Thats Biden inflation not Trumps. The rate of increase is slowing thanks to Trump. You trust Biden figures after 800000 jobs were found never to have existed.
The economy is thriving under Trump. You just cant face the failure of your beliefs.

 

[Papageorgio]

1. Don't trust the government's numbers. Trump not only lies he fires people who tell the truth. He fired the woman who came out with the June numbers because the number was bad. That's pathetic. How can you trust him moving forward?

2. They said on the news that because of the government shut down, we don't have all the numbers.

3. The latest US inflation report for December 2025 showed the annual Consumer Price Index (CPI) remained steady at 2.7%. The year-over-year core inflation rate, which excludes volatile food and energy prices, was 2.6%.
I think the goal is 2%. Ah, now I see what you are doing. You're saying it's only .7 higher than what they want. Yea, but 2024 was a horrible year for inflation and Trump ran on bringing prices down. I just heard on the news prices aren't coming down.

Grocery Prices Are 'Never' Coming Down, Experts Say​

Trump’s Treasury Goon Admits House Prices Are Not Going to Come Down​

You believed they would come down? That is pretty stupid, prices don’t come down, it is foolish to believe such rubbish but R’s and D’s believe all kinds of ridiculous nonsense. I certainly didn’t. What scared me more was Harris and Trump during the campaign talked about price freezes, which would have been disaster.

What did I do? I cited a source that said 0.7%, you can’t cite a source! lol!

You keep confirming how dumb you are.

2024 inflation was at 2.9%. So not that bad as far as I was concerned.

BTW, you still believe Biden is cognizant? Are you happy Biden beat Medicare?

 

[Correll]

1. Don't trust the government's numbers. Trump not only lies he fires people who tell the truth. He fired the woman who came out with the June numbers because the number was bad. That's pathetic. How can you trust him moving forward?

We are tired of all these "innocent mistakes" ALWAYS benefitting your side and hurting ours.

You bet she got fired. She should have.

2. They said on the news that because of the government shut down, we don't have all the numbers.

Fair enough. As time goes on, people will be FEELING the good news or the bad news in their lives AND we will be getting the data eventually, one way or another.

3. The latest US inflation report for December 2025 showed the annual Consumer Price Index (CPI) remained steady at 2.7%. The year-over-year core inflation rate, which excludes volatile food and energy prices, was 2.6%.
I think the goal is 2%. Ah, now I see what you are doing. You're saying it's only .7 higher than what they want. Yea, but 2024 was a horrible year for inflation and Trump ran on bringing prices down. I just heard on the news prices aren't coming down.

2024 was NOT a horrible year for inflation. 2022 and 2023 were horrible.

2.7 is not bad. Especially when you consider that that folds in all those tariffs that you people were panic mongering about.

Grocery Prices Are 'Never' Coming Down, Experts Say​

Trump’s Treasury Goon Admits House Prices Are Not Going to Come Down​

Trump is talking about barring big investment firms from buying houses. That would be huge and imo, would lead to lower housing prices, in fairly short order. Especially when combined with the deportations and with the aging boomers.

 

[sealybobo]

We are tired of all these "innocent mistakes" ALWAYS benefitting your side and hurting ours.

You bet she got fired. She should have.






Fair enough. As time goes on, people will be FEELING the good news or the bad news in their lives AND we will be getting the data eventually, one way or another.




2024 was NOT a horrible year for inflation. 2022 and 2023 were horrible.

2.7 is not bad. Especially when you consider that that folds in all those tariffs that you people were panic mongering about.



Trump is talking about barring big investment firms from buying houses. That would be huge and imo, would lead to lower housing prices, in fairly short order. Especially when combined with the deportations and with the aging boomers.

DUDE! I'm in Florida right now. The politicians right now are meeting to deal with the unafloridability problem they are experiencing.

The thing that blows my mind is they can't see it's Trump's fault. He is a God down here. Seriously.

It's property taxes! Lower them! It's insurance! Lower them! But then what's going to fund the government? Their roads, schools, all that. So what are the lawmakers going to do? Do you think they will raise taxes on the rich? People who own homes that aren't primary residents? That's what they are talking about doing. Which is basically taxing the rich. I like that idea. Florida ain't so liberal.

Actually, let's see what they do. The Governor proposed 4 ideas

Governor Ron DeSantis has proposed several key initiatives, but a recent focus, especially in his final State of the State address, centers on property tax relief, boosting teacher/law enforcement pay, expanding school choice, and enhancing infrastructure/environmental projects, fitting within his $117.4 billion "Floridians First" budget, with recent discussions highlighting specific ideas like homestead exemption reform and an AI "Bill of Rights".
So all the rich people who went to California and ruined it, that won't happen in Florida. Ron is going to stick it to the man. I love it.

Property Tax Reform​

The Florida House advanced a series of proposals designed to cut non-school property taxes through its first committees this past fall, a move that could change how local governments fund services and manage local finances.

The proposals include a measure to eliminate the taxes immediately, and another to phase them out over 10 years.

“This is about returning money to hard-working Floridians,” said Coral Gables Republican Rep. Demi Busatta Cabrera.

Another proposal would eliminate non-school property taxes exclusively for homeowners 65 and older.

“This is a targeted approach to help those who need it the most,” said Miami Republican Rep. Juan Porras. “Our most vulnerable communities, those who have built the cities and counties, the areas that we all represent.”

The proposals include a police mandate that would require local governments to leave law enforcement budgets untouched.

“I did not support defunding the police in 2020, and I am not going to support it today,” said Coconut Creek Democratic Rep. Christine Hunschofsky.

It would require a constitutional amendment to alter the state's property taxes. If passed by the Legislature, the proposal will go to voters in 2026 and would require at least 60% approval.

“We should not be afraid to let the voters of this state, the same voters who elected each and every one of us, make the decisions for themselves, for their communities and for the state,” said Stuart Republican Rep. Toby Overdorf.

Democratic lawmakers on Thursday voiced concern over the effort to slash property taxes, which are the primary revenue source for local governments. The Florida Policy Institute estimates $43 billion would be needed to maintain current services if the House proposals are enacted.

“We should not be putting our local governments in a situation where we're taking away tools, only to have them shift that burden in some other way. That is actually going to have the most adverse impacts on the people who need our help the most,” said House Democratic Leader Fentrice Driskell, a Tampa lawmaker.

The Senate has not filed any companion legislation, leaving the House to move forward alone.

DeSantis has criticized the idea of putting multiple tax proposals on the 2026 ballot, calling it a poor approach.

 

[Correll]

DUDE! I'm in Florida right now. The politicians right now are meeting to deal with the unafloridability problem they are experiencing.

The thing that blows my mind is they can't see it's Trump's fault. He is a God down here. Seriously.
...

Really? Trump's fault? Buddy, stop playing retard.

This has been a long term trend. Which needs a long term solution.

To be clearer, we need to focus on the long term TRENDS, not short term blips, NOR using it as a weapon for partisan advantage, which is your game.

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Buying a home in 2025 is more than twice as expensive as in 2000. Discover how affordability has changed and what it means for today’s homebuyers.

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[sealybobo]

Really? Trump's fault? Buddy, stop playing retard.


View attachment 1206209


This has been a long term trend. Which needs a long term solution.

To be clearer, we need to focus on the long term TRENDS, not short term blips, NOR using it as a weapon for partisan advantage, which is your game.

Housing Affordability in 2025: Is Buying a Home Harder Than in 2000? | Fixr.com

Buying a home in 2025 is more than twice as expensive as in 2000. Discover how affordability has changed and what it means for today’s homebuyers.

www.fixr.com

Yes it's all been happening for a very long time. I've been telling you all about it since the 2000's. And before here, I was bitching about it during the Clinton years. I was furious when Clinton signed NAFTA. What were you saying back then? Do you remember? I remember what I was saying.

So I'll say it again, ****, all, you, dumb, ass Americans. You get what you deserve. And don't expect that trend to reverse.

Hey, aren't you the guy who doesn't even pay attention to the prices when you go shopping?

Yesterday, my millionaire brother and my two MAGA buddies were texting shit back and forth. What did my brother say? Let me go find the text.

Rice $2 for 2 servings
Tuna $1 a packet
No hormone eggs $4
Good greek yogart $1.50
Gas in his area $2.29

When the news reports people can't afford, just know it's clickbait.

Just because he can throw together a meal for $10 he thinks prices are not going up.

I don't know what to tell you guys. Everything is going up. There is no way around it. If not, then corporate profits are going to be down because their prices are all up 10% or more and you idiots don't think they'll be passing those costs on to you?

I just texted them and asked him if he thinks tariffs raised the price of the new couch he just bought. Because AI says tariffs have raised the prices of furniture.

Oh, and get this. You guys are expecting a SPIKE in prices. This is going to be a slow gradual increase in prices, on everything. So in a year or two from now, all the poor people you pretended to care about affordability, will be in the same boat they were in in 2024. Hopefully JD vance can convince everyone that it's all in our heads. Clickbait. And he can say Gavin's policies will raise prices even more. LOL.

 

[sealybobo]

Really? Trump's fault? Buddy, stop playing retard.


View attachment 1206209


This has been a long term trend. Which needs a long term solution.

To be clearer, we need to focus on the long term TRENDS, not short term blips, NOR using it as a weapon for partisan advantage, which is your game.

Housing Affordability in 2025: Is Buying a Home Harder Than in 2000? | Fixr.com

Buying a home in 2025 is more than twice as expensive as in 2000. Discover how affordability has changed and what it means for today’s homebuyers.

www.fixr.com

P.S. While my rich brother pays more for his couch and doesn't mind, I get his old couch. Which is brand new if you ask me. His dog peed on one corner leg of the couch and his wife couldn't get the stain out so they are just getting rid of it. Can you believe rich people? Me? That's a ******* brand new couch to me. I needed a couch. That dog just saved me $1000. Actually $1100 because of the tariffs. LOL.

So bring on the tariffs! I don't buy shit anyways. LOL.

 

[Correll]

Yes it's all been happening for a very long time. I've been telling you all about it since the 2000's. And before here, I was bitching about it during the Clinton years. I was furious when Clinton signed NAFTA. What were you saying back then? Do you remember? I remember what I was saying.
....

I will stop here.

So, why the **** did you say it was Trump's fault?

 

[Correll]

P.S. While my rich brother pays more for his couch and doesn't mind, I get his old couch. Which is brand new if you ask me. His dog peed on one corner leg of the couch and his wife couldn't get the stain out so they are just getting rid of it. Can you believe rich people? Me? That's a ******* brand new couch to me. I needed a couch. That dog just saved me $1000. Actually $1100 because of the tariffs. LOL.

So bring on the tariffs! I don't buy shit anyways. LOL.

IMO, the insane consumption of the cheap china shit years, was not a benefit to us.

Moving away from that model, could be a good thing, long term.

Short term? Short term we are still digging ourselves out of the hole of decades of wage stagnation.

WE NEED A PRO-WAGES POLICY AND WE NEED TO KEEP IT THAT WAY FOR GENERATIONS.


**** THE EMPLOYERS.

The benefits of that, will be felt sooner than you think and it will just grow with time.

YOu have complained about not trusting the numbers.

Give it a bit of time. Non-government researchers will figure ways to check the data and we will see if the good numbers hold up.

You are acting like it has already been proven that they won't. Which is just factually FALSE.

 

[Lesh]

What economist? The economy is thriving under Trump after the Biden disaster.
We have 4.3% GDP, wages up, inflation slowing, record DOW, largest tax cut for the middle class, wages increasing, gas under 3 dollars, rents down, 2 interest rate cuts, more tax deductions for the working class, increased child deductions. I dont see a problem.

So these things have been happening for a year under Trump

What you fail to mention is that the last three years of the Biden Admin… were pretty similar

 

[sealybobo]

I will stop here.

So, why the **** did you say it was Trump's fault?

Trump has made affordability a bigger problem.