But enough about you.
I told you those numbers weren't real.
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google it. You'll find where I found it.
Listen dumb ass. It's ******* obvious. What have we been told? Prices have gone us. We don't need to be told we see it. What percentages did Trump slap on the EU, UK, China, Canada, EVERYONE??? At least 10%.
And we know employers have been holding off raising prices to compensate for this as much as possible. Layoffs, no bonus' this year, share holders, corporate profits. It must have cost Corporate America, no? How do you tax them 10% minimum and not expect a 5% increase.
The thing I sell they raised their prices 10% and MORE on November 1. Just wait stupid. All my customers buy this shit and are now paying 10% more. You don't think in 2026 they are going to raise the prices of the products they all make? John Deere, GE, John Deere, dude!!!! Wake the **** up.
Now is when you tell me you asked your employer for a 10% raise and they gave it to you. And maybe I need to go find a better job if my employer didn't. **** off.
You won't like the link and I don't trust the link you guys provided to say prices have only gone up .007% you lying *****.
Not buying it. If I give you a link that clearly explains you are delusional and it's actually 4.9% and going to go higher next year, you won't like my source. So **** your source. Is that from the White House website?
It doesn't matter if the economy is good Papa. What matters is does it feel good? Remember that from last year? We would show you guys that the economy was good, inflation was going down and blue collar wages were going up and your side said "it doesn't feel like a good economy".
Well how can you tell me things are good when the President says this year maybe you can only afford 2 dolls not 27? You think .007% price increase is doing that?
Papageorgio
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So I provivde a link to a reputable website, you provide no link, nothing to back up your stupidity and I am supposed to blindly believe you and you keep lying and the number isn’t .007, I have stated many times it is .7% but continue to lie and misrepresent what I said.
You have no proof to your claims, so I am done until you have real evidence. Have a great day.
AntonToo
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You make such claim based on BLS report that straight up entered zeros for missing data? not smart.
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Nobody911
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While you shouldn't expect anything good from the Trump administration, you can still appreciate their rhetorical tactics. lol. 
- Growth is moderate but steady. A 2 % expansion rate keeps the economy growing, though it’s slower than the 2.8 % pace of the prior year.
- Inflation is near target but fragile. While headline CPI is below 3 %, measurement gaps from the shutdown mean the true rate could be a bit higher. The Fed remains vigilant.
- Bottom‑line estimate
- Reported headline CPI (Nov 2025): 2.7 % YoY
- Adjusted for the shutdown‑induced data gap: ≈ 2.9 %–3.0 % YoY
This adjusted range reflects the consensus among the economists. The official number is modestly understated because October’s price movements—especially in shelter—were not captured. Keep in mind that the exact magnitude cannot be known until the BLS can release a full October dataset, but the 0.2–0.3 pp upward adjustment is the most commonly cited ballpark.
- Labor market is softening. Unemployment edging up to 4.6 % signals the first notable rise in years, yet vacancy levels suggest employers still find it hard to fill positions.
- Monetary policy is in a balancing act. The Fed is cautiously lowering rates after a period of aggressive tightening, trying to support growth without reigniting inflation.
- External factors matter. Ongoing tariff debates, possible future shutdowns, and global supply‑chain dynamics could shift these trends quickly.
Quick Takeaway
- Overall outlook: A modestly expanding economy with inflation under control but vulnerable to policy and external shocks.
- For individuals: Expect stable, if not accelerating, price growth; watch for potential changes in mortgage and loan rates as the Fed continues its gradual easing.
- For businesses: Labor‑market tightening is easing, but keep an eye on input‑cost volatility from tariffs and possible regulatory changes.
sources:
- Growth is moderate but steady. A 2 % expansion rate keeps the economy growing, though it’s slower than the 2.8 % pace of the prior year.- Inflation is near target but fragile. While headline CPI is below 3 %, measurement gaps from the shutdown mean the true rate could be a bit higher. The Fed remains vigilant.
- Bottom‑line estimate
- Reported headline CPI (Nov 2025): 2.7 % YoY
- Adjusted for the shutdown‑induced data gap: ≈ 2.9 %–3.0 % YoY
This adjusted range reflects the consensus among the economists. The official number is modestly understated because October’s price movements—especially in shelter—were not captured. Keep in mind that the exact magnitude cannot be known until the BLS can release a full October dataset, but the 0.2–0.3 pp upward adjustment is the most commonly cited ballpark.
- Labor market is softening. Unemployment edging up to 4.6 % signals the first notable rise in years, yet vacancy levels suggest employers still find it hard to fill positions.
- Monetary policy is in a balancing act. The Fed is cautiously lowering rates after a period of aggressive tightening, trying to support growth without reigniting inflation.
- External factors matter. Ongoing tariff debates, possible future shutdowns, and global supply‑chain dynamics could shift these trends quickly.
Quick Takeaway
- Overall outlook: A modestly expanding economy with inflation under control but vulnerable to policy and external shocks.
- For individuals: Expect stable, if not accelerating, price growth; watch for potential changes in mortgage and loan rates as the Fed continues its gradual easing.
- For businesses: Labor‑market tightening is easing, but keep an eye on input‑cost volatility from tariffs and possible regulatory changes.
sources:
- December 10, 2025: FOMC Projections materials, accessible version
- https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/sb0301
- https://www.theguardian.com/business/2025/dec/28/2025-us-economy-in-charts
- https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/30/business/federal-reserve-minutes-december.html
- https://apnews.com/article/inflation-federal-reserve-jobs-economy-3c48a2e88f04b70e993020712c8684b2
- https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/inflation-cpi
- https://www.newsnationnow.com/busin...n-report-release-government-shutdown-economy/
- https://finance.yahoo.com/news/cpi-...rd-to-take-this-data-seriously-164227700.html
I just did a AI search on a subject. Such details. Hard to debate any of it. AI gave me a short answer that made perfect sense to me and then the second link took me to redit. At the end of the long details it simply said
Source: Internet
When you go to buy coffee that before Trump tariffs cost $8.99 is now $12.99 and you know for a fact trump taxed coffee, does it feel like only .7% more? Feels higher to me.
Remember we showed you in 2024 the economy was strong but you guys said despite the data, it didn't "feel" good for so many Americans.
The disconnect between a strong economy (based on data) and public sentiment in 2024 is primarily due to the lasting impact of high prices, the cost of living, and wage inequality.
Don't forget Trump said inflation was all Biden's fault and he would lower prices on day one. Well we are on day 300 and prices are up. You've admitted it's AT LEAST up .7%. That's not lower. LOL
Papageorgio
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Good for you! I have AI give me links all day long, so you are lying. Just because it is AI doesn’t mean squat. Nice con game you are running, and you have yet to address why my link is not correct.
Papageorgio
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My coffee has gone done this year, I was paying higher last year. I never said the economy was bad in 2024.
Acceptable inflation for Democrats was 9% in 2021, 2022 but now 2.7% is now high? lol!
Economist say 2% is acceptable and we are at 2.7% which tariffs add 0.7%, short run tariffs hurt, long run we are in much better shape.
Like cutting spending and bringing down debt, it will hurt in the short run, but benefits us in the long run. I am in it for the long run for my kids, grandkids and great grandkids.
The tariffs are nearly as painful as you keep claiming and you have not provided a link. You lose again.
I want you dumb asses to keep track of everything you buy that is more now than it was last year. In the end you're going to see Trumpflation cost you a lot of money.
So I went to McDonald. Every Friday I get the 2 fish for $6. It's $7 now. Where do they buy their fish? Probably from some country that Trump slapped a 15% tariff.
The price increase from $6 to $7 is $1, which is approximately 16.67%.
I didn't buy them. **** that. I just drove off. So you'll spin it to say Trump saved me $6. LOL.
If I go every week that $52 more this year on Fish Filet sandwiches alone. That's just one purchase you dumbass.
Correll I want you to do the same. Every time something you buy is more expensive I want you to come here and tell us. And I will tell you when I see prices are down. Like gas. Gas is cheap right now. Overall though, last year in 2025 tariffs cost us on average $1500. It's going to be a lot more this year.
Isn't this why we voted out Biden?
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Economist are accusing the trump *administration of fudging the numbers to make a faltering economy look better than it really is.
They noted the same things I did. A lack of real data, prices that don't line up with the numbers released by the government, and "imputing" data where there was none (basically guessing).
And they aren't likely to get any more accurate for a while either.
Trump admin fudged the numbers to make faltering economy look better: economists
Los Angeles Times reporter Michael Hiltzik writes that President Donald Trump and his helpers are cheering prematurely over some good economic numbers that came out this month.On Dec. 18, the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) reported that inflation had fallen to an annual rate of 2.7 percent in...www.alternet.org
And I know you're gonna attack the source but I had to find you one without a paywall.
No paywall at the source which is linked in your article...
“The numbers give you meaningful information about the system, but not about how people experience their actual lives,”
LOL.
Author goes on to say that the 2.7% inflation and 4.3% GDP are fake since reporting of rental cars and airline fees were affected by the shutdown. LOL.
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If you're going to cite a biased source, be prepared to be called on the mat for it.
Don't guffaw and feign ignorance. You knew full well what you did and the response you would get.
1. To be honest, I haven't paid attention to prices for normal items for some time. So... I can't really do that. Even if I started now, I wouldn't be able to compare. Indeed, with direct deposit, and between inflation and our unsteady and quick rise in wealth, I've lost all feel for what a prices are or should be.
2And no, it's wasn't on my short list of reasons to vote against Biden.
Why don't you just admit you don't care how bad conservatives are or how good Democrats do. You just prefer conservatives running the country. Even if Republicans cost you more, you make enough you're safe. All this crying about blue collar wages. You're basically just a well off conservative liar.
It's amazing how much you are willing to pay for conservative leadership. All they got to do is call it a tariff not a tax.
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10 percent inflation is not good for the economy, but it is good for someone who has a mortgage, actually.
Becasue that's not the situation. I gave you the real answer. That you want to pretend it's not true, so you can spam some negs, is just you being a partisan hack.
The goal of ideology is to find teh best ways to address issues, so that you can get good results for the people.
If republicans fail to deliver good results, I do adn willl care about that. Try to be less of a projecting ass.
you know, part of that argument was that the tariffs would cause high inflation.
That is not happening. WE are not getting rapidly rising inflation. We are not getting the recession you guys were spamming.
You need to adjust your talking points.
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