I thought I knew, but now I'm not sure.

Exactly, you've made a claim, it's up to you to back it up. Sometimes the source someone uses says a lot about that someone. Show me where 25% of COVID sufferers are permanently disabled, I would like to see it.
Again with the "there is no internet" claim.
Youvfound the one study....find this one.
You are claiming "Covid-19 is nothing more than an irritating sniffle" and "no one need to do anything "

You made the claim....I refuted it....so back up YOUR claim with something other than death statistics. I referred to long term disabilities....YOU HAVE NOTHING BUT POLITICICAL ASPIRATIONS.
I do not base my medical choices based on politics. I base them upon INFORMED CONSENT. Meaning if no one is providing the totality of information I seek out my own until I can make an informed decision. You seem to want something other than that by your minimizing Covid-19.

What....you think that further research without biohazard protections should be condoned? Is that what you are advocating?
 
THOSE who for what ever reason did not take the vaccine.
My question would be WHY so many would not even follow the simple medical suggestions?
DO NOT gather together in large groups.
Try and stay some distance away from those you do not know.
Stay at home more,
Be more careful in public places.
follow the rules posted by owners of public places.
People refuse to admit they are wrong even to the point of death. And many died as a result of their refusal. Phil Valentine, and many others refused and died as a result.
 
THOSE who for what ever reason did not take the vaccine.
My question would be WHY so many would not even follow the simple medical suggestions?
DO NOT gather together in large groups.
Try and stay some distance away from those you do not know.
Stay at home more,
Be more careful in public places.
follow the rules posted by owners of public places.

According to the MAGA crowd, the Chinese unleashed a horrible disease on us as a bioweapon, but we should not wear masks or take the vaccines to protect us from this horrible bioweapon. Protecting ourselves from this bioweapon was a leftist conspiracy.

The correct term is 'cognitive dissonance'.
 
Until the era of trumpery, I thought I knew how people would react to the discovery of a vaccine that greatly decreases the chances you could die from a highly infectious virus. The vaccine also having the ability to minimize the most severe of the virus's symptoms. But I was wrong about that.

I would have said with confidence even trumples didn't want to roll the dice on a re-emergence of polio.

Like Mr. Kennedy, Mr. Siri insists he does not want to take vaccines away from anyone who wants them. “You want to get the vaccine — it’s America, a free country.” he told Arizona legislators last year after laying out his concerns about the vaccines for polio and other illnesses. He did not mention the petitions he has lodged on behalf of ICAN with the Food and Drug Administration, asking regulators to withdraw or suspend approval of vaccines not only for polio, but also for hepatitis B.

Mr. Siri is also representing ICAN in petitioning the F.D.A. to “pause distribution” of 13 other vaccines
, including combination products that cover tetanus, diphtheria, polio and hepatitis A, until their makers disclose details about aluminum, an ingredient researchers have associated with a small increase in asthma cases.


Now I'm not so sure. After all, trumples are all in on the guy nominated to lead HHS who said he doesn't believe any vaccine is safe and effective. Like the man who RFK wants to be lead counsel for HHS, Bob says he doesn't want to take vaccines away from people. But much of his life's work says otherwise. In light of the continued support for the orange enemy of the state after revelations of his plot to steal the 2020 election, I don't think I know what trumples will do next. I'm not sure I want to.

I thought I knew whether trumples liked the idea of having their bank deposits insured up to $250K. Especially given the insurance is paid for by the banks who make money from said deposits. But the idea of ending FDIC insurance is being floated by the guy who has won trumples' hearts. A truly "it ain't broke don't fix it" moment. I get the impression if Dear Leader is for it, trumples are too. Though I'm not sure they know why. I do know why the banks are for it.

Deregulation is upon us and folks on Wall St. are excited about the prospects. Just as they were before the Great Depression, the S&L crisis, and Shrub's Great Recession. Jeff Bezos is so excited he contributed $1M to trump's inauguration. Or maybe that was a payoff to keep the incoming trump admin from going after him and his businesses. As was the $1M contribution made by Mark Zuckerberg. I don't know.

Should we abandon the fight against climate change, "suspend approval for vaccines," abolish the FBI, withdraw from alliances, criminalize dissent, forsake allies, purify the populace, initiate trade wars, trivialize ethics, enrich the rich, give tacit approval to governmental intimidation, elevate the executive branch, and seek to marginalize half the population? Do these things strengthen the nation?

I don't think they do. I would not have thought other Americans did either. But I was wrong about that.
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According to the MAGA crowd, the Chinese unleashed a horrible disease on us as a bioweapon, but we should not wear masks or take the vaccines to protect us from this horrible bioweapon. Protecting ourselves from this bioweapon was a leftist conspiracy.

The correct term is 'cognitive dissonance'.
Which is why I believe in INFORMED CONSENT.
75/25 chance of nothing more than a cold by doing nothing.
0.02% chance of vaccine injury.

You can play the odds or not. The choice should be yours and no one else's.
 
Again with the "there is no internet" claim.
I didn't say that, you're projecting.
Youvfound the one study....find this one.
I posted data that supports my statement. Why don't you to do the same?
You are claiming "Covid-19 is nothing more than an irritating sniffle" and "no one need to do anything "
I didn't say that, you're projecting.
You made the claim....I refuted it
Repeating, "Nuh-uh!" isn't refutation of anything. I haven't even refuted your claim, I'm waiting on you to back it up.
....so back up YOUR claim with something other than death statistics.
My claim was ABOUT death statistics, so the evidence I post to back it up is about, you guessed it, death statistics.
I referred to long term disabilities
Okay, so post your link that shows 25% of COVID sufferers are permanently disabled. That was your claim, back it up.
....YOU HAVE NOTHING BUT POLITICICAL ASPIRATIONS.
No, I'm not running for office anywhere. Are you sure you know what you're doing on here?
I do not base my medical choices based on politics. I base them upon INFORMED CONSENT. Meaning if no one is providing the totality of information I seek out my own until I can make an informed decision. You seem to want something other than that by your minimizing Covid-19.
I minimize nothing by pointing out that COVID very rarely outright killed those who did not have other risk factors, such as being elderly, obese, or having respiratory problems.
What....you think that further research without biohazard protections should be condoned? Is that what you are advocating?
You ARE the weakest link, Good-bye.
 
Which is why I believe in INFORMED CONSENT.
75/25 chance of nothing more than a cold by doing nothing.
0.02% chance of vaccine injury.

You can play the odds or not. The choice should be yours and no one else's.

Except for government workers, no one was forced to take the vaccine. If government workers felt strongly about it, they could quit. Just like everyone else has the choice to conform to their company's rules or quit.
 
I didn't say that, you're projecting.

I posted data that supports my statement. Why don't you to do the same?

I didn't say that, you're projecting.

Repeating, "Nuh-uh!" isn't refutation of anything. I haven't even refuted your claim, I'm waiting on you to back it up.

My claim was ABOUT death statistics, so the evidence I post to back it up is about, you guessed it, death statistics.

Okay, so post your link that shows 25% of COVID sufferers are permanently disabled. That was your claim, back it up.

No, I'm not running for office anywhere. Are you sure you know what you're doing on here?

I minimize nothing by pointing out that COVID very rarely outright killed those who did not have other risk factors, such as being elderly, obese, or having respiratory problems.

You ARE the weakest link, Good-bye.
THANK YOU FOR BLOCKING ME....
YOU ARE A MORON. YOU CANNOT AND WILL NOT BACK UP YOUR CLAIMS.

You make medical advice based on politics.....that's something never once tried in human history. Good luck.
 
THOSE who for what ever reason did not take the vaccine.
My question would be WHY so many would not even follow the simple medical suggestions?
DO NOT gather together in large groups.
Try and stay some distance away from those you do not know.
Stay at home more,
Be more careful in public places.
follow the rules posted by owners of public places.
The hysteria led to arresting a guy completely alone on a paddleboard with no one around him. It also led to attempts to punish a group of churchgoers sitting in their cars in a church parking lot. IOW, no threat to anyone else, just upsetting those who don't like others having fun and living their lives unmolested by the government.
 
THANK YOU FOR BLOCKING ME....
YOU ARE A MORON. YOU CANNOT AMD WILL NOT BACK UP YOUR CLAIMS.
I didn't block you, I simply waved good-bye as you vanished in my rearview mirror. I also backed up my claim, did you miss that? I mean, it was right there, easily seen. I even talked about it in the post. Go back and check.

Here, I'll even be nice to you and give you a chance to name a claim I made that I did not back up. And no, you can't just make stuff up that I didn't say. That's not the way this works.
 
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I didn't block you, I simply waved good-bye as you vanished in my rearview mirror. I also backed up my claim, did you miss that? I mean, it was right there, easily seen. I even talked about it in the post. Go back and check.
Dang! I can always dream!

To make a claim that the virus either kills you or its barely a sniffle is ludicrous to begin with.

Which is YOUR claim.

I say bullshit and you get into a tizzy. Meaning you really don't know or are afraid to say. But the roughly 25% is factual....you just want those numbers and facts to go away for some reason. I'm sure you have run across them before....it's not obscure information.

Quit cooking the books.

2% of influenza infections kill. But 6% die from complications stemming from the influenza infection. I'm forgetting the long term disability numbers. It was at least 2x the death by complication numbers.

Why are you deliberately hiding the truth?
 
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According to the MAGA crowd, the Chinese unleashed a horrible disease on us as a bioweapon, but we should not wear masks or take the vaccines to protect us from this horrible bioweapon. Protecting ourselves from this bioweapon was a leftist conspiracy.

The correct term is 'cognitive dissonance'.
The masks and the so-called vaccine did not protect us in the least bit.

Believing they did is the ultimate cognitive dissonance.
 
I don't want to get injected every three months even if it might work. There are a myriad of reasons people do not trust the government or pharmaceutical companies here.

As for the polio issue, Kennedy like Trump just likes to hear himself talk. Nothing is going to change there.
Your recovery is progressing well. Still a ways to go, but heading in the right direction.
 
Dang! I can always dream!

To make a claim that the virus either kills you or its barely a sniffle is ludicrous to begin with.

Which is YOUR claim.
Quote me, because I didn't say that. If/when you can't, feel free to come back here and admit you like making stuff up.
I say bullshit and you get into a tizzy. Meaning you really don't know or are afraid to say. But the roughly 25% is factual....you just want those numbers and facts to go away for some reason. I'm sure you have run across them before....it's not obscure information.
I said I want to see your source for the 25% you say are permanently disabled. You do realize that in all this time, you haven't produced a single link show it, right?
Quit cooking the books.

2% of influenza infections kill. But 6% die from complications stemming from the influenza infection.
Yes, we know the flu kills people every year. We also know how to manage the flu with shots and vulnerable people being extra careful. The same happened with COVID, after the hysteria died down. We looked at the evidence and realized that otherwise healthy, younger people are not likely to die from it. Those who are vulnerable are smart to take the vaccine and keep a distance.
Why are you deliberately hiding the truth?
Why are you deliberately refusing to back up a very specific claim you made?
 
Which is why I believe in INFORMED CONSENT.
75/25 chance of nothing more than a cold by doing nothing.
0.02% chance of vaccine injury.

You can play the odds or not. The choice should be yours and no one else's.
YOUR LIE is not more believable the more you tell it.
 
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