I Served 25 Years in the Service - And this Asshole is Doing What?????

[Article 15]

In 4-6 years should you make E-5 (like most competent troops do), your base pay is $2500/ mo and your BAH goes up to $1100/mo.

The BAH depends where you live, I was getting $1300 in BAH at Vandenberg cause the cost of living was so fuckin high.

Yeah, I was using Pope as my example.

 

[uscitizen]

It does appear cheap. But what I will say is, that US service men and women don't get paid truckloads to begin with...I don't see many driving Ferrari's or Lambo's...

Enlisted men are now better paid than most civilians doing equivalent jobs.

And the civilians typically pay much MUCH more for HC than that.

I disagree completely, when you look at the number of hours an enlisted man or woman actually works in comparison to their civilian counter parts, they are drastically underpaid.

they signed the contract.
Law of supply and demand.

 

[Uncensored2008]

What's the black guy doing with a stick?

He's making sure white people don't vote.

The Obama administration is okay with that.

 

[uscitizen]

What's the black guy doing with a stick?

He's making sure white people don't vote.

The Obama administration is okay with that.

LOL the republicans seem to be working very hard on trying to get whites not to vote.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Frightening chickenshits to death.

Intimidation and threats of violence are some of the methods you leftists are more than happy to use...

 

[NLT]

You're a ******* douche bag

buck up

**** off bird boy

 

[Warrior102]

There's nothing stopping the spouse from dropping the children off at base day care and getting a job.

You're right. Drop them off and get a job, because the husband is so underpaid, we can't afford food, rent and diapers. But the current wait period to get into daycare at Naval Base Norfolk - for example is 8-11 months.

Most civilian families are dual income to help them make ends meet.

And I'm sure spouses don't work together at all to deal with those problems.

When I was on shore duty in Norfolk, at the Naval Base, I worked with Navy Housing alot with domestic issues at the Family Services Center. Many, and I mean MANY of our junior enlisted's living in housing on base (or in town) were on welfare to help supplement their income. Many of them had 2 or more children, car payments, daycare expenses, etc. Kids will be kids. Unfortunately, pay at their level E3, 4, 5, isn't enough to sustain that kind of lifestyle, which is full of bad decisions.

But that's not the issue.

The issue is our military is GROSSLY underpaid for the job they are asked to do.

Not only is this bumbling idiot Obama going to cut benefits for veterans, he hasn't even given our active duty men and women one DIME in a pay raise since he slid into office.

He's shitting all over them - and asking them to do more with less.

 

[Dante]

active duty military are fine. ideologically motivated veterans need to stfu with the hysterics

There are 22+million veterans in the U.S.
How do you expect to shut us up on election day?

a black guy with a stick seems to scare the shit out of a lot of people

hell, a picture of a black guy gives you people the vapors

"I couldn't go in and vote. there was a black guy outside the polls with a baton"

a well dressed Muslim or a cop?

 

[Uncensored2008]

thanks for dropping by, but warrior's filling the moron billet here.

How could there be any room, with you here?

 

[Dante]

You're right. Drop them off and get a job, because the husband is so underpaid, we can't afford food, rent and diapers. But the current wait period to get into daycare at Naval Base Norfolk - for example is 8-11 months.

Most civilian families are dual income to help them make ends meet.

And I'm sure spouses don't work together at all to deal with those problems.

When I was on shore duty in Norfolk, at the Naval Base, I worked with Navy Housing alot with domestic issues at the Family Services Center. Many, and I mean MANY of our junior enlisted's living in housing on base (or in town) were on welfare to help supplement their income. Many of them had 2 or more children, car payments, daycare expenses, etc. Kids will be kids. Unfortunately, pay at their level E3, 4, 5, isn't enough to sustain that kind of lifestyle, which is full of bad decisions.

But that's not the issue.

The issue is our military is GROSSLY underpaid for the job they are asked to do.

Not only is this bumbling idiot Obama going to cut benefits for veterans, he hasn't even given our active duty men and women one DIME in a pay raise since he slid into office.

He's shitting all over them - and asking them to do more with less.

so people with kids sign up to stay in poverty, or do they sign up hoping for a free education and medical down the road?

 

[ogibillm]

It does appear cheap. But what I will say is, that US service men and women don't get paid truckloads to begin with...I don't see many driving Ferrari's or Lambo's...

Enlisted men are now better paid than most civilians doing equivalent jobs.

And the civilians typically pay much MUCH more for HC than that.

I disagree completely, when you look at the number of hours an enlisted man or woman actually works in comparison to their civilian counter parts, they are drastically underpaid.

really?

be honest - most active duty troops (when not on deployment) keep banker's hours.

 

[High_Gravity]

What's the black guy doing with a stick?

He's making sure white people don't vote.

The Obama administration is okay with that.

The Obama administration is going to need the white vote to get re-elected.

 

[Warrior102]

In 4-6 years should you make E-5 (like most competent troops do), your base pay is $2500/ mo and your BAH goes up to $1100/mo.

The BAH depends where you live, I was getting $1300 in BAH at Vandenberg cause the cost of living was so fuckin high.

I don't remember what my BHA was in Japan, but it was high compared to U.S. BHA rates. And I still ended up paying rent out of my own pocket (2 year waiting list for base housing) because the Yen was kicking the dollars ass and everything in Japan is so ******* expensive. I believe my rent was the BHA + $300 so out of pocket to cover electricty and other rental expenses.

 

[del]

buck up

**** off bird boy

tissue?

 

[uscitizen]

You're right. Drop them off and get a job, because the husband is so underpaid, we can't afford food, rent and diapers. But the current wait period to get into daycare at Naval Base Norfolk - for example is 8-11 months.

Most civilian families are dual income to help them make ends meet.

And I'm sure spouses don't work together at all to deal with those problems.

When I was on shore duty in Norfolk, at the Naval Base, I worked with Navy Housing alot with domestic issues at the Family Services Center. Many, and I mean MANY of our junior enlisted's living in housing on base (or in town) were on welfare to help supplement their income. Many of them had 2 or more children, car payments, daycare expenses, etc. Kids will be kids. Unfortunately, pay at their level E3, 4, 5, isn't enough to sustain that kind of lifestyle, which is full of bad decisions.

But that's not the issue.

The issue is our military is GROSSLY underpaid for the job they are asked to do.

Not only is this bumbling idiot Obama going to cut benefits for veterans, he hasn't even given our active duty men and women one DIME in a pay raise since he slid into office.

He's shitting all over them - and asking them to do more with less.

Umm we are trying to recover from a major recession.
At least they do not have to worry about being laid off or their job going to India.

I am sure the right is all for pay raises for govt employees?
Obama gives the military pay raises? Ohh wait that is congress that does that.
What bill on this has the republican led house passed?
Or even submitted?

 

[High_Gravity]

Enlisted men are now better paid than most civilians doing equivalent jobs.

And the civilians typically pay much MUCH more for HC than that.

I disagree completely, when you look at the number of hours an enlisted man or woman actually works in comparison to their civilian counter parts, they are drastically underpaid.

really?

be honest - most active duty troops (when not on deployment) keep banker's hours.

Depends on your job, if you work in Personnel, Finance etc sure, but if you work on the flight line, or an MP, or a fire figher, you can easily work a 12-14 hour day.

 

[del]

What's the black guy doing with a stick?

He's making sure white people don't vote.

The Obama administration is okay with that.

The Obama administration is going to need the white vote to get re-elected.

link?

 

[High_Gravity]

In 4-6 years should you make E-5 (like most competent troops do), your base pay is $2500/ mo and your BAH goes up to $1100/mo.

The BAH depends where you live, I was getting $1300 in BAH at Vandenberg cause the cost of living was so fuckin high.

I don't remember what my BHA was in Japan, but it was high compared to U.S. BHA rates. And I still ended up paying rent out of my own pocket (2 year waiting list for base housing) because the Yen was kicking the dollars ass and everything in Japan is so ******* expensive. I believe my rent was the BHA + $300 so out of pocket to cover electricty and other rental expenses.

Yup the cost of living is high in Japan and Europe, thats why they give you COLA (Cost of Living allowance) to help cope with it.

 

[Article 15]

You're right. Drop them off and get a job, because the husband is so underpaid, we can't afford food, rent and diapers. But the current wait period to get into daycare at Naval Base Norfolk - for example is 8-11 months.

Most civilian families are dual income to help them make ends meet.

And I'm sure spouses don't work together at all to deal with those problems.

When I was on shore duty in Norfolk, at the Naval Base, I worked with Navy Housing alot with domestic issues at the Family Services Center. Many, and I mean MANY of our junior enlisted's living in housing on base (or in town) were on welfare to help supplement their income. Many of them had 2 or more children, car payments, daycare expenses, etc. Kids will be kids. Unfortunately, pay at their level E3, 4, 5, isn't enough to sustain that kind of lifestyle, which is full of bad decisions.

But that's not the issue.

The issue is our military is GROSSLY underpaid for the job they are asked to do.

Not only is this bumbling idiot Obama going to cut benefits for veterans, he hasn't even given our active duty men and women one DIME in a pay raise since he slid into office.

He's shitting all over them - and asking them to do more with less.

E-1 Pay

2008: 1374.00
2009: 1399.50
2010: 1447.20
2011: 1467.60
2012: 1491.00

 

[Dante]

shitty, when they renege on a deal.

tough shit.

You're a ******* douche bag

VFW? How's that "Vietnam Era" shit going? all the vets who never saw combat during the end of 'nam, got vets groups to make a name change so it would sound like all vets were war heroes.