I Served 25 Years in the Service - And this Asshole is Doing What?????

[NLT]

Enlisted men are now better paid than most civilians doing equivalent jobs.

And the civilians typically pay much MUCH more for HC than that.

I disagree completely, when you look at the number of hours an enlisted man or woman actually works in comparison to their civilian counter parts, they are drastically underpaid.

really?

be honest - most active duty troops (when not on deployment) keep banker's hours.

Not in the Navy, when deployed we work usually 12 hr shifts, when in port we are on 3 section duty. When at at home port we are working to get the ship ready for deployment and in training.

 

[Warrior102]

honestly though most of my knowledge comes from reserve components... so i could be wrong, but regular shifts seem to be the norm, not the exception.

That makes sense. A ******* weekend warrior.

 

[Article 15]

Depends on your job, if you work in Personnel, Finance etc sure, but if you work on the flight line, or an MP, or a fire figher, you can easily work a 12-14 hour day.

really? why would an mp need to work more than anyone else? shifts might odd, but that happens anywhere.

honestly though most of my knowledge comes from reserve components... so i could be wrong, but regular shifts seem to be the norm, not the exception.

In the Air Force Security Forces pull 12 hours shifts, and that doesn't even take into account guard mount and the changing of shift at the end, that easily turns into a 13-14 hour day, and like I said manning is so low right now most everyone in the service is having to pull longer hours, in the years before I got out I was literally working until 2100 at night and ******* falling to sleep in my uniform.

SF gets fucked over regularly.

 

[Warrior102]

Not in the Navy, when deployed we work usually 12 hr shifts, when in port we are on 3 section duty. When at at home port we are working to get the ship ready for deployment and in training.

He's a reservist. He wouldn't understand/be able to tolerate a six hour day, nevermind a 12 hour one.

 

[ogibillm]

Friend, you are citing a measly cost-of-living adjustment of 20-something dollars a month, not a President Obama military pay raise.

Can you find that for us?

so while other government workers have had a pay freeze the military has been getting cost of living increases?

sounds like a raise to me.

A $20/month COLA increase for a guy who's deployed/getting shot at is significant to you?

God, grow a ******* brain.

it's a raise, isn't it? i mean other government workers are seeing a pay freeze, and the military is still getting a raise.

so while others get nothing you are complaining that the preferential treatment of the military isn't preferential enough.

sound right to you?

 

[Warrior102]

SF gets fucked over regularly.

So do the SP

 

[NLT]

shitty, when they renege on a deal.

tough shit.

You're a ******* douche bag

VFW? How's that "Vietnam Era" shit going? all the vets who never saw combat during the end of 'nam, got vets groups to make a name change so it would sound like all vets were war heroes.

Served 1979-2002, screw you.

 

[uscitizen]

Friend, you are citing a measly cost-of-living adjustment of 20-something dollars a month, not a President Obama military pay raise.

Can you find that for us?

so while other government workers have had a pay freeze the military has been getting cost of living increases?

sounds like a raise to me.

A $20/month COLA increase for a guy who's deployed/getting shot at is significant to you?

God, grow a ******* brain.

He/she signed the contract knowing what they would get paid.
They have no right to whine about pay.

remember we have a volunteer military.

 

[Warrior102]

it's a raise, isn't it? i mean other government workers are seeing a pay freeze, and the military is still getting a raise.

so while others get nothing you are complaining that the preferential treatment of the military isn't preferential enough.

sound right to you?

No, it doesn't "sound right" to me, assbrain.
Servicemembers get a $20 month cost of living adjustment.

How much do Congressman/Senators get in addition to their annual payraise?

 

[ogibillm]

honestly though most of my knowledge comes from reserve components... so i could be wrong, but regular shifts seem to be the norm, not the exception.

That makes sense. A ******* weekend warrior.

again, you don't know me.

also, nice to see that you have respect for all veterans.

 

[Warrior102]

again, you don't know me.

also, nice to see that you have respect for all veterans.

I don't want to know you. You strike me as a non-serving *****, attempting to pose as a veteran.

 

[High_Gravity]

SF gets fucked over regularly.

So do the SP

The Military in general has been getting fucked over since 9/11 to be honest.

 

[Warrior102]

You're a ******* douche bag

VFW? How's that "Vietnam Era" shit going? all the vets who never saw combat during the end of 'nam, got vets groups to make a name change so it would sound like all vets were war heroes.

Served 1979-2002, screw you.

75-00 here shipmate

(we've had this discussion before Master Thief!)

 

[uscitizen]

again, you don't know me.

also, nice to see that you have respect for all veterans.

I don't want to know you. You strike me as a non-serving *****, attempting to pose as a veteran.

And you strike me as a net tough guy posing as a combat vet.

You may be a vet for all I know. But I really do not care.

Everyone who was in the service does not come out a tough guy pro military type.

 

[High_Gravity]

I disagree completely, when you look at the number of hours an enlisted man or woman actually works in comparison to their civilian counter parts, they are drastically underpaid.

really?

be honest - most active duty troops (when not on deployment) keep banker's hours.

Not in the Navy, when deployed we work usually 12 hr shifts, when in port we are on 3 section duty. When at at home port we are working to get the ship ready for deployment and in training.

12 hour shifts are starting to become the norm across the board in the Military because of the low manning, believe it or not Recruiters work some real long fuckin hours, especially the Army ones.

 

[ogibillm]

again, you don't know me.

also, nice to see that you have respect for all veterans.

I don't want to know you. You strike me as a non-serving *****, attempting to pose as a veteran.

have i ever claimed to be a veteran?

 

[Warrior102]

again, you don't know me.

also, nice to see that you have respect for all veterans.

I don't want to know you. You strike me as a non-serving *****, attempting to pose as a veteran.

And you strike me as a net tough guy posing as a combat vet.

The only combat experience I have was spending a year in Beirut, not allowed to carry a weapon, getting sniped at 24/7. Got worse at night. The Marines weren't even allowed to chamber bullets for Christ sake. Then those ******* camel jockey cowards blew up the barracks. That was Oct. 83.
Several years later, I was also aboard USS Iowa on April 19, 1989 when Turret 2 exploded and we lost 47 shipmates.

So no, never fought in combat.

Where did you serve, asswipe - in the Jungles of Nam? If so, I'd like to ask you a couple questions about that tour, again. Maybe this time I will get an answer.

 

[Warrior102]

really?

be honest - most active duty troops (when not on deployment) keep banker's hours.

Not in the Navy, when deployed we work usually 12 hr shifts, when in port we are on 3 section duty. When at at home port we are working to get the ship ready for deployment and in training.

12 hour shifts are starting to become the norm across the board in the Military because of the low manning, believe it or not Recruiters work some real long fuckin hours, especially the Army ones.

I hope what happens with these Obama military cuts is this - all the good people will leave the military. Then the draft will have to be reinstated to sustain all these wars he has us involved in. FINALLY - some of these "Keyboard Commandos" will get their wish to serve their country.

 

[High_Gravity]

I don't want to know you. You strike me as a non-serving *****, attempting to pose as a veteran.

And you strike me as a net tough guy posing as a combat vet.

The only combat experience I have was spending a year in Beirut, not allowed to carry a weapon, getting sniped at 24/7. Got worse at night. The Marines weren't even allowed to chamber bullets for Christ sake. Then those ******* camel jockey cowards blew up the barracks. That was Oct. 83.
Several years later, I was also aboard USS Iowa on April 19, 1989 when Turret 2 exploded and we lost 47 shipmates.

So no, never fought in combat.

Where did you serve, asswipe - in the Jungles of Nam? If so, I'd like to ask you a couple questions about that tour, again. Maybe this time I will get an answer.

That whole situation in Lebanon was fucked up, letting our troops sit there with rifles with no bullets was ******* beyond retarded.

 

[Warrior102]

again, you don't know me.

also, nice to see that you have respect for all veterans.

I don't want to know you. You strike me as a non-serving *****, attempting to pose as a veteran.

have i ever claimed to be a veteran?

No need to.
It's obvious.