I say give Volkswagen amnesty for violating our emissions laws; Just like illegal aliens get.

[bucs90]

Volkswagen broke our emissions laws?? Psssht. So the fuck what?? Since when did it matter if we follow our federal rules. Illegal aliens break them and Democrats preach about amnesty. How dare we suggest they be held accountable!!!

Heck....liberals celebrate the violation that illegals commit.

So.....I applaud you Volkswagen. You stood in the face of overbearing government and gave em the middle finger. Volkswagen should be seen as a heroic company in my opinion.

So brave and courageous to defy government rules....just like out border jumpers.

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

Volkswagen broke our emissions laws?? Psssht. So the fuck what?? Since when did it matter if we follow our federal rules. Illegal aliens break them and Democrats preach about amnesty. How dare we suggest they be held accountable!!!

Heck....liberals celebrate the violation that illegals commit.

So.....I applaud you Volkswagen. You stood in the face of overbearing government and gave em the middle finger. Volkswagen should be seen as a heroic company in my opinion.

So brave and courageous to defy government rules....just like out border jumpers.

Exactly, we stand in support of Volkswagen, they're heroes.

 

[bucs90]

God bless this heroic, brave company!!!

 

[bucs90]

Liberals are confused as fuck.....both violated our federal laws....but it's only ok for one of them!! Both bravely thumbed their noses at our rules in America...but...it's only tolerant to accept one of them haha!!!

Volkswagen: Brave heroes of the new world.

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

Liberals are confused as fuck.....both violated our federal laws....but it's only ok for one of them!! Both bravely thumbed their noses at our rules in America...but...it's only tolerant to accept one of them haha!!!

Volkswagen: Brave heroes of the new world.

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"Liberals are confused as fuck"

What's new? Confusion is the Liberals natural state of "mind"

 

[OnePercenter]

What about the fact that Volkswagen lied to their buyers?

 

[bucs90]

What about the fact that Volkswagen lied to their buyers?

Illegals lie to people who pay them too.

SEE??? It's the same still.

 

[foggedinn]

Big fines.
I'm sure that to get the money the owners have to get their cars "fixed". Who would want to do that?

 

[OnePercenter]

What about the fact that Volkswagen lied to their buyers?

Illegals lie to people who pay them too.

SEE??? It's the same still.

Illegals lie to people who pay them too.

SEE??? It's the same still.

The issue is Volkswagen. You applaud Volkswagen for lying to their buyers?

 

[OnePercenter]

Big fines.
I'm sure that to get the money the owners have to get their cars "fixed". Who would want to do that?

I'm sure that to get the money the owners have to get their cars "fixed". Who would want to do that?

There is 'NO fix.' Owners should receive new cars.

 

[bucs90]

What about the fact that Volkswagen lied to their buyers?

Illegals lie to people who pay them too.

SEE??? It's the same still.

Illegals lie to people who pay them too.

SEE??? It's the same still.

The issue is Volkswagen. You applaud Volkswagen for lying to their buyers?

Yes. It's heroic and brave. Just like illegals lie when they come here and lie to their employers and lie to get handouts.

Fraud is fraud.

What Volkswagen did to obtain what it wants outside of the framework of our laws...is just like illegals breaking our laws to get what they want.

The left applauds them and sees them as brave and heroic.

Well....then so is Volkswagen.

 

[OnePercenter]

What about the fact that Volkswagen lied to their buyers?

Illegals lie to people who pay them too.

SEE??? It's the same still.

Illegals lie to people who pay them too.

SEE??? It's the same still.

The issue is Volkswagen. You applaud Volkswagen for lying to their buyers?

Yes. It's heroic and brave. Just like illegals lie when they come here and lie to their employers and lie to get handouts.

Fraud is fraud.

What Volkswagen did to obtain what it wants outside of the framework of our laws...is just like illegals breaking our laws to get what they want.

The left applauds them and sees them as brave and heroic.

Well....then so is Volkswagen.

Yes. It's heroic and brave. Just like illegals lie when they come here and lie to their employers and lie to get handouts.

Fraud is fraud.

What Volkswagen did to obtain what it wants outside of the framework of our laws...is just like illegals breaking our laws to get what they want.

The left applauds them and sees them as brave and heroic.

Well....then so is Volkswagen.

It's 'heroic and brave' for Volkswagen to lie to their customers?

 

[waltky]

Ouch!...

Volkswagen takes $18 billion hit over emissions scandal
Apr 22 2016 - WOLFSBURG/FRANKFURT Volkswagen (VW) said on Friday it would take a 16.2-billion-euro ($18.2 billion) hit to its 2015 results and slash its dividend to help pay for its emissions-test cheating scandal.

The news came amid growing signs a regulatory clampdown in the wake of VW's (VOWG_p.DE) cheating is affecting the broader industry, with Germany-based automakers including Mercedes-Benz, and Opel - as well as VW - agreeing to recall a total of 630,000 cars to fix diesel engine technology blamed for high pollution. On Thursday, VW agreed a framework settlement with U.S. authorities to buy back or potentially fix about half a million cars fitted with illegal test-fixing software, and set up environmental and consumer compensation funds. Analysts said the deal was crucial for VW to give a cost for the scandal in its 2015 results, which have been delayed since February, and provide a starting point for Europe's biggest carmaker to try to rebuild trust with investors and customers.

VW said on Friday the money it was setting aside to pay for the scandal would drive it to a 2015 net loss of 1.36 billion euros, the largest in its history and the first on an annual basis since 1993. Full results are due on April 28. However, analysts said the Wolfsburg-based company could still face further costs, including potential U.S. Department of Justice (DoJ) fines as part of an expected civil settlement, and a DoJ investigation that could lead to criminal charges.

There are also questions over whether it will offer compensation to the much larger number of diesel drivers affected outside the United States, as well as who will be blamed for the scandal in several ongoing investigations. "The crisis in Wolfsburg is far from over yet," said NordLB analyst Frank Schwope, who has a "hold" rating on VW stock. "The agreement with U.S. regulators is nothing but an intermediate step in a marathon that should stretch out over the next 5-10 years."

VW said on Friday it could not release preliminary findings from an investigation it commissioned from U.S. law firm Jones Day until it had reached an agreement with the DoJ. Chief Executive Matthias Mueller also said he could not put a figure on the total cost of the scandal -- which some analysts have estimated at about $30 billion -- but there was no reason to believe the 2015 loss would lead to job cuts.

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[theHawk]

What about the fact that Volkswagen lied to their buyers?

Illegals lie to people who pay them too.

SEE??? It's the same still.

Illegals lie to people who pay them too.

SEE??? It's the same still.

The issue is Volkswagen. You applaud Volkswagen for lying to their buyers?

Yes. It's heroic and brave. Just like illegals lie when they come here and lie to their employers and lie to get handouts.

Fraud is fraud.

What Volkswagen did to obtain what it wants outside of the framework of our laws...is just like illegals breaking our laws to get what they want.

The left applauds them and sees them as brave and heroic.

Well....then so is Volkswagen.

We should also give Volkswagen a bailout since they are being persecuted in their own country.

 

[eagle1462010]

Liberals have taught us.....................We ONLY have to OBEY LAWS WE AGREE WITH.........

VW's everywhere..................WE OFFER SANCTUARY against the Gov't laws....................Drive here now............

 

[waltky]

Employees on the line made to sacrifice for management's blunder...

Volkswagen to shed 30,000 jobs, cutting costs after scandal
Nov 18,`16 -- Volkswagen announced plans Friday to cut 30,000 jobs in a wide-ranging restructuring of its namesake brand as it tries to recover from a scandal over cars rigged to cheat on diesel emissions tests.

The German company said the job cuts, which account to around 5 percent of its global workforce, are part of a long-term plan to improve profitability and shift resources and investment to electric-powered vehicles and digital services. At a news conference at Volkswagen's headquarters in Wolfsburg, company officials said 23,000 of the job cuts will be in Germany and that the measures will save some 3.7 billion euros ($4 billion) a year from 2020. Volkswagen employs around 120,000 people at its namesake brand in Germany. The company also said it would be hiring for some 9,000 new positions related to new technology, and that some of those jobs could go to current employees.

CEO Matthias Mueller said it was "the biggest reform package in the history of our core brand." In addition to Volkswagen, the company also makes cars under other brands including Porsche, Audi, SEAT, Skoda and Lamborghini. The announcement caps a difficult year for Volkswagen, which has been embroiled in an emissions-rigging scandal that damaged the company's reputation and cost it billions. In response, Volkswagen has agreed to pay $15 billion to U.S. authorities and owners of some 500,000 vehicles with software that turned off emissions controls. Around 11 million cars worldwide have the deceptive software.

A worker checks the Volkswagen sign on a Golf car during the so called 'Open Door Day' to celebrate the 25th anniversary of the German manufacturer Volkswagen Sachsen in Zwickau, eastern Germany. Volkswagen will announce its future strategy which might include job cuts in a press conference​

The scandal has been a spur for the company to address longstanding problems such as high fixed costs at its manufacturing locations in Germany and excessively top-down management that many say created an environment that enabled the cheating. Herbert Diess, head of the core Volkswagen brand, conceded that Volkswagen had let its costs rise and "lost ground in terms of productivity." The changes, he said, would make the company "leaner and more efficient." The cuts are aimed at addressing Volkswagen's longstanding cost issue. Volkswagen, with 624,000 employees around the world, sells roughly the same number of cars as Toyota and General Motors - around 10 million a year. But Toyota does it with 349,000 workers and GM with 202,000.

One reason often cited for VW's higher cost-base and headcount is the role that employee representatives play at the company. As at other large German companies, employees have half the seats on the board, a power they can use to resist moving production outside Germany or to suppliers. In addition, the state of Lower Saxony, where the headquarters is located, owns a stake in the company and tends to support employee interests as well. The cuts will mainly fall on its 120,000-strong factory workforce in Germany. Job cuts are also foreseen in Brazil and Argentina. The jobs will be reduced through voluntary departures such as early retirement and attrition. Labor representatives won a guarantee of no involuntary layoffs through 2025.

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[waltky]

Additional executives could potentially face charges...

Six Volkswagen executives indicted in emission scandal
January 11,`17 - U.S. officials indicted six executives at German automaker Volkswagen on Wednesday in connection with company’s efforts to deliberately deceive U.S. regulators about the emissions standards of its diesel engine vehicles and sell those cars illegally to American drivers.

Five of the six executives are currently in Germany, and Attorney General Loretta Lynch said it was too soon to say how that will impact legal proceedings moving forward. Additional executives at the company are being investigated and could potentially face charges, she said.

The Justice Department officially handed down criminal and civil penalties for Volkswagen on Wednesday afternoon. Volkswagen has agreed to plead guilty to three criminal counts, a rare admission of wrongdoing for a major company, and pay $4.3 billion in fines. “As you know we cannot put companies in jail, but we can hold their employees personally accountable and make companies pay hefty fines,” said FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe. “This is really a reflection of the fact that faceless multinational corporations don’t commit crimes, flesh-and-blood people commit crimes,” added Sally Q. Yates, deputy attorney general. “And we’ve sharpened our focus to ensure that we’re doing everything from the very beginning of an investigation… to hold those individuals accountable and build out from there.”

GM and Toyota both incurred steep fines from the Department of Justice in recent years connected to safety defects that caused human fatalities. Neither company faced criminal charges or admitted to wrongdoing. Officials said Wednesday that the Volkswagen case stood out because the deception lasted 10 years and involved senior managers. “This is a company where lower-level people actually expressed concern along the way about the fact that these defeat devices were being used and questioned whether they should be used, and higher-up people decided to keep using them,” said Assistant Attorney General Leslie R. Caldwell. “We don’t really see many major multinational corporations that decide at a very high level . . . to violate U.S. law in a systematic way for nearly a decade,” she added.

The six executives face charges of conspiracy to defraud the United States and American consumers, and violation of the U.S. Clean Air Act. Those indicted include Heinz-Jakob Neusser, 56, Jens Hadler, 50, Richard Dorenkamp, 68, Bernd Gottweis, 69, Oliver Schmidt, 48, and Jürgen Peter, 59, all of Germany. Schmidt was arrested and charged earlier this week in Miami. All of the accused have ties to Volkswagen’s engine development and quality assurance divisions, both in the U.S. and Germany. According to the Department of Justice, Hadler and Dorenkamp directed employees to develop and install the technology to evade emissions testing. The accused then marketed the car engines as “clean diesel” knowing they did not meet U.S. standards. Peter also served as one of Volkswagen’s liaisons with regulators in 2015. A spokesman for Volkswagen declined to disclose the employment status of the six indicted individuals, citing a policy not to discuss ongoing investigations or personnel matters.

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[Old Rocks]

What about the fact that Volkswagen lied to their buyers?

Illegals lie to people who pay them too.

SEE??? It's the same still.

Illegals lie to people who pay them too.

SEE??? It's the same still.

The issue is Volkswagen. You applaud Volkswagen for lying to their buyers?

Yes. It's heroic and brave. Just like illegals lie when they come here and lie to their employers and lie to get handouts.

Fraud is fraud.

What Volkswagen did to obtain what it wants outside of the framework of our laws...is just like illegals breaking our laws to get what they want.

The left applauds them and sees them as brave and heroic.

Well....then so is Volkswagen.

You know, you are a real asshole. Volkswagen broke laws for the profit of already very well off executives. The illegal immigrants are trying to escape intense poverty. That you see the legality of both as the same, only shows you to be someone without the slightest human compassion.

 

[waltky]

What did he know and when did he know it?...

Ex-Volkswagen CEO 'knew about emissions cheating earlier than claimed'
Saturday 28th January, 2017 - German prosecutors have expanded their probe into Volkswagen's diesel car emissions scandal, claiming they have evidence former CEO Martin Winterkorn may have known of the cheating earlier than he claimed.

The 69-year-old stepped down in September 2015, days after news emerged in the US of Volkswagen's use of software which turned off emissions controls. He said at the time that he was not aware of any wrongdoing on his part. Winterkorn said before a parliamentary committee last week that he first heard the term "defeat device", the technical name for the illegal software, in September 2015 - even though US authorities had been pressing Volkswagen for months over emissions test discrepancies and the cheating had been going on for several years.

Martin Winterkorn, former CEO of the German car manufacturer Volkswagen​

Prosecutors in Braunschweig said that based on investigations, Winterkorn "could have known of the manipulative software earlier than publicly asserted by him". They have increased the number of suspects in their investigation from 21 to 37 people, with 28 locations including offices and private homes searched in Germany this week. Winterkorn and others are now being investigated on allegations they committed fraud. In a June statement, prosecutors said Winterkorn was being investigated only over market manipulation for not making a timely disclosure of the possible financial consequences of the problem.

US prosecutors have separately charged seven former Volkswagen employees. The company has agreed to pay 4.3 billion dollars (£3.4 billion) in fines to settle criminal charges and reached a 15 billion dollar (£11.8 billion) civil settlement in the US with environmental authorities and car owners. The software enabled the car to detect when it was on the test stand and turn on emission controls, and then to turn them off during normal driving.

Ex-Volkswagen CEO 'knew about emissions cheating earlier than claimed' - BelfastTelegraph.co.uk

 

[waltky]

VW loses another $3B in U.S. diesel scandal...

VW announces loss of another $3B in U.S. diesel scandal
Sept. 29, 2017 -- Stock prices of Volkswagen fell sharply Friday after a surprise announcement of another $3 billion charge related to the company's massive U.S. diesel emissions scandal.

A report Friday from Volkswagen AG referred to the loss as "third quarter negative items" impacting the company's bottom line. The German automaker said the charge related to the widespread recall involving Volkswagen vehicles outfitted with "defeat devices" that allowed them to circumvent U.S. emissions laws. "The reason is an increase in provisions relating to the buyback/retrofit program for 2.01 TDI vehicles, which is part of the settlements in North America that is proving to be far more technically complex and time consuming," it said.

A diesel-powered Volkswagen Beetle TDI. Volkswagen AG announced a surprise $3 billion charge to its third-quarter bottom line on Friday, continuing costs of its diesel emission scandal.​

The total cost to the company from the scandal is now near $30 billion. The new charge comes 15 months after Volkswagen and U.S. regulators and law enforcement agencies agreed on a program by which the company agreed to buy back or repair about 50,000 Volkswagen and Audi models.

On Wednesday, police in Munich arrested former Volkswagen engineer Wolfgang Hatz in connection with the case. Hatz, the second person arrested in the scandal, led the company's engine development department at Audi, a Volkswagen subsidiary. Volkswagen shares fell four percent early Friday on the Frankfurt Stock Exchange and finished with a 1.29 percent decline. Volkswagen made the announcement prior to the third quarter earnings report, scheduled to be released on Oct. 27.

VW announces loss of another $3B in U.S. diesel scandal