I reject the Trump extremism

[Lesh]

Agreed, but following him down his rabbit hole with his rabid supporters has potential to be bring us to our worst fears, including the destruction of this country, based on voting in and voting out our representatives and leaders as we feel the need.

The destruction of the country?

That’s hyperbole

But the destruction of the democracy that makes this country great.

Yea that

 

[22lcidw]

Agreed, but following him down his rabbit hole with his rabid supporters has potential to be bring us to our worst fears, including the destruction of this country, based on voting in and voting out our representatives and leaders as we feel the need.

So, it is all right for corrupted non indicted felons like Biden to change his views on most issues like the wind, but he was not voted in and out for the need. If Biden was ice cream, we would have many flavors of Joe with each one distinctly different and the antithesis of the other flavor.

 

[FA_Q2]

And Nazism is the cure to our ills? If we just left you have absolute power all will be grand?

Do you have a Nazi button on your keyboard? You must because it seems to be stuck.

 

[White 6]

It's amusing to watch you fascists call Trump supporters "rabid" as you burn our Constitution in your blind rage and hatred of Trump.

And if we examine WHY you have such visceral hatred the results are interesting. First and foremost is conditioning. Orwell wrote of a "2-Minute Hate" in 1984 that conditioned the plebs to focus all anger and hatred on the scapegoat of the party - Emanuel Goldstein.

Obviously the Reich press is a "24/7 hate" that serves the same purpose with you acolytes of fascism. You are conditioned to hate Emanuel Goldstein - Donald Trump.

Do you know why you hate him? Doubtful that you care - it is emotion, not reason that guides you. Such is the purpose of a scapegoat,

Do you grasp why you support ending the Constitutional Republic and furthering the fascist dictatorship of the democrats? Because you must end white supremacy? End Der Juden? Because a thriving middle class is the cause of glowbull warming and only through mass poverty can the planet be saved?

Atrocities are not a byproduct of tyranny, they are a central feature. It's not that democrats will commit atrocities due to abuse of power - atrocities are the planned outcome. And you support this, wittingly or unwittingly.

Dude! I am in Tennessee, in my library, with my feet up. I am not the fascist you envision. There is no fascist dictatorship, down here. There will not be a dictatorship in this country if we can keep voting out elected leaders, at the will of the people. If we decide to just throw out the election if we don't like our personal choice lost, then we will move to a dictatorship by the leader of the minority vote. It is as simple as that.

 

[FA_Q2]

Dims didn't used to fashion themselves after the Gestapo.

The destruction of the country?

That’s hyperbole

But the destruction of the democracy that makes this country great.

Yea that

Ah, 2 peas in a pod. Might as well be perfect mirrors.

 

[night_son]

I reject it on both sides

1. I don't believe Trump is the source of all our ills and needs continually pummeled.

2. And I definitely don't think he is the cure of those ills by electing him again.

Where do you fall?

Democrat and republican politicians, political left and political right ideologies are two heads attached firmly to the same venomous serpent.

However, and that being said, do not lose yourself in this illusion. RIGHT and WRONG definitely exist, and they exist as distinctly different, primordial concepts. If you find yourself turning a blind eye to the overt and undeniable evils of many modern political ideologies, then you are complicit in spreading such evil.

Donald Trump is no savior, nor is any other politician past, present or future. The only thing that could ever "save" us and America at large is indelibly embracing GOOD and fighting to the death to spread and promote it. The key and terminal problem with modern republicans is that they cannot agree on what is right or good and in the end they worship gold same as any other ruling class down through history.

 

[Donald H]

Then next time vote for somebody who will only contemplate temporary harm, instead of permanent destruction of the foundations of our government and country. Remember, bad character in leadership positions is far more destructive in the long term, than shitty leadership temporally. It would be nice if both parties would run their best, but it has not happened lately.

Rest your case in the satisfaction of Votto's title for the thread is the only important part of this discussion.

 

[jbrownson0831]

Then next time vote for somebody who will only contemplate temporary harm, instead of permanent destruction of the foundations of our government and country. Remember, bad character in leadership positions is far more destructive in the long term, than shitty leadership temporally. It would be nice if both parties would run their best, but it has not happened lately.

Right, but I didn't vote for Poopeypants. As for any permanent destruction, maybe state just how that is possible for Trump when he supports our laws, law enforcement, protection of our borders, our own oil production and sale to other countries, job creation, low inflation, protection of our civil rights, punishment of criminals......the list is endless. These are the foundations of our government and country and Trump is the only one supporting them.

 

[jbrownson0831]

Well, if you wanted to exemplify my point any better it would likely be impossible.

What point was that? That the DIms goosestep nicely?

 

[Donald H]

Democrat and republican politicians, political left and political right ideologies are two heads attached firmly to the same venomous serpent.

However, and that being said, do not lose yourself in this illusion. RIGHT and WRONG definitely exist, and they exist as distinctly different, primordial concepts. If you find yourself turning a blind eye to the overt and undeniable evils of many modern political ideologies, then you are complicit in spreading such evil.

Donald Trump is no savior, nor is any other politician past, present or future. The only thing that could ever "save" us and America at large is indelibly embracing GOOD and fighting to the death to spread and promote it. The key and terminal problem with modern republicans is that they cannot agree on what is right or good and in the end they worship gold same as any other ruling class down through history.

You're just adding window dressing. The title of the thread is the only thing of note that makes this one different from any of the rest.

I reject the Trump extremism​

That's a crack developing in the armour and Votto's past performance says it's a significant crack for this board at least.

 

[White 6]

So, it is all right for corrupted non indicted felons like Biden to change his views on most issues like the wind, but he was not voted in and out for the need. If Biden was ice cream, we would have many flavors of Joe with each one distinctly different and the antithesis of the other flavor.

Don't vote for Joe if you don't want to. Heck, if given a viable alternative, I won't either next time. One thing for certain though, my vote will not be for somebody that thinks elections should be overthrown after all the states have sent there electoral votes for recording, and certainly will not be for anybody that would encourage others to turn their backs on their oaths to protect the constitution, or that sends a mob to march on the capital to change the outcome by hook or violent crook. God Bless Mike Pence for standing up to the bastard when push came to shove, and are representative republic in the balance.

 

[White 6]

Right, but I didn't vote for Poopeypants. As for any permanent destruction, maybe state just how that is possible for Trump when he supports our laws, law enforcement, protection of our borders, our own oil production and sale to other countries, job creation, low inflation, protection of our civil rights, punishment of criminals......the list is endless. These are the foundations of our government and country and Trump is the only one supporting them.

He does not, support our laws. There is the fatal flaw.

 

[justaschmuck9]

I reject it on both sides

1. I don't believe Trump is the source of all our ills and needs continually pummeled.

2. And I definitely don't think he is the cure of those ills by electing him again.

Where do you fall?

No leader is a cure all of the ills in the nation

But Trump is the only one I can think of who can turn this sinking ship around and patch up all the holes in it (first)

DeSantis could, I suppose. But for one thing, Trump was kicked out of the WH by fraud and deception when he had/has a rightful place as President.

I thought it was funny... On Ingraham last night, she (in the banner underneath) referred to Trump as President Trump. People who have been robbed (Trump and supporters) have a right to what is theirs being returned to them ASAP. No?

I love it when people --Ingraham-- don't care when others are "offended" by what they do (assuming what they do is in line with TRUTH).

All this offended nonsense. Please.

We should be offended this year and for years to come about one thing in particular: How our country was stolen by a bunch of criminals who only want power and daily access to BIG MONEY (earned as it is by hte taxpayers who don't appreciate how it's being spent, to say the least, but the power-grabbers couldn't care less)

 

[jbrownson0831]

Don't vote for Joe if you don't want to. Heck, if given a viable alternative, I won't either next time. One thing for certain though, my vote will not be for somebody that thinks elections should be overthrown after all the states have sent there electoral votes for recording, and certainly will not be for anybody that would encourage others to turn their backs on their oaths to protect the constitution, or that sends a mob to march on the capital to change the outcome by hook or violent crook. God Bless Mike Pence for standing up to the bastard when push came to shove, and are representative republic in the balance.

With no virus scam to enable fake voting, should not be a problem in upcoming elections. Of course, its okay when the Dims holler stolen election, just not the Repubs. Remember?

 

[Frankeneinstein]

The title of the thread is your statement that's important and says it all. Any hedging that's coming is going to be just window dressing.

Though he capitalized "Trump" rendering it a proper noun, from context [the hedging] it is clear he intended it as an adjective, without the "hedging" there is no such context.

 

[Flash]

I reject it on both sides

1. I don't believe Trump is the source of all our ills and needs continually pummeled.

2. And I definitely don't think he is the cure of those ills by electing him again.

Where do you fall?

He didn't fix everything broke in this country by a long shot but he did some great things.

He sealed the border, had record low employment for everybody including minorities, brought high paying jobs back to the US, made us energy independent with low gas prices, lowered taxes, kept us from getting into another war, (which has been the norm for decades) and managed the pandemic competently from a Federal level.

He handed Potatohead a great post pandemic recovery economy complete with a vaccine and all Potatohead was able to do was create massive inflation, high cost of energy, allow millions of Illegals to flood across the border, increase taxes, create a recession and out of control government spending.

 

[jbrownson0831]

He does not, support our laws. There is the fatal flaw.

Yes he does, the fatal flaw is with you.

 

[Votto]

Don't vote for Joe if you don't want to. Heck, if given a viable alternative, I won't either next time. One thing for certain though, my vote will not be for somebody that thinks elections should be overthrown after all the states have sent there electoral votes for recording, and certainly will not be for anybody that would encourage others to turn their backs on their oaths to protect the constitution, or that sends a mob to march on the capital to change the outcome by hook or violent crook. God Bless Mike Pence for standing up to the bastard when push came to shove, and are representative republic in the balance.

Here is the problem, the media and DNC lied about Trump and made up Putin conspiracies since day 1 of his term, as well as a great many other things they lied about, such as him banning all Muslim immigration into the US, when his EO really allowed 95% of them to immigrate.

All of that was pure bunk. In fact, it was such pure bunk that you moved onto another issue to impeach him, something equally as questionable. In fact, the evidence for the Putin conspiracy was so weak, they did not even use it to impeach him the first time even though it took 4 years for Mueller to go after Trump with endless investigations.

You can only cry wolf so many times. Hillary even told Joe not to accept an election loss under any circumstances, but you would have defended that and blamed Putin.

You fail to understand the rot that has both unleashed Trump on the nation, and the corrupt powers that have wrongfully gone after him time after time in the past.

Again, the problem is not Trump.

 

[Independentthinker]

I reject it on both sides

1. I don't believe Trump is the source of all our ills and needs continually pummeled.

2. And I definitely don't think he is the cure of those ills by electing him again.

Where do you fall?

I didn't vote for Trump in 2016. Didn't vote for Hillary either. I was forced to vote for Trump in 2020 because I didn't want democratic socialism and the destruction of the country which about 80% of the country thinks is now headed in the wrong direction. Unfortunately, that's exactly what we got with Biden and the left. I don't plan on voting for Trump in 2024. BUT the left's total obsession with bringing Trump down at all costs ever since he was elected, to hell with democracy as we know it, is simply unacceptable. You may be interested in this article I just read:

Kushner says Trump tasked Ivanka with setting up meeting with Hillary Clinton after her defeat

Jared Kushner says former President Trump instructed his daughter, Ivanka Trump, to set up a meeting with Hillary Clinton following his political foe’s 2016 election loss in an attempt to develop a “cordial relationship.” His father-in-law, Kushner writes in his memoir, “Breaking History,”...

www.yahoo.com

Unfortunately, we'll never see the timeline that the country could have gone down if the left hadn't developed full blown TDS, which was much worse than coming down with Covid.

 

[Donald H]

Here is the problem, the media and DNC lied about Trump and made up Putin conspiracies since day 1 of his term, as well as a great many other things they lied about, such as him banning all Muslim immigration into the US, when his EO really allowed 95% of them to immigrate.

All of that was pure bunk. In fact, it was such pure bunk that you moved onto another issue to impeach him, something equally as questionable. In fact, the evidence for the Putin conspiracy was so weak, they did not even use it to impeach him the first time even though it took 4 years for Mueller to go after Trump with endless investigations.

You can only cry wolf so many times. Hillary even told Joe not to accept an election loss under any circumstances, but you would have defended that and blamed Putin.

You fail to understand the rot that has both unleashed Trump on the nation, and the corrupt powers that have wrongfully gone after him time after time in the past.

Again, the problem is not Trump.

I reject the Trump extremism​

You're flogging a dead horse now. All the window dressing any of them or you, puts up here is not going to erase that.