all the rioters say they were following Trump's orders
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If he did break into the Capitol itself, we WOULD see a connection. Interesting that you had to use an analogy that never actually happened.
all the rioters say they were following Trump's orders
‘QAnon shaman’ was following Trump’s orders and deserves a pardon, his lawyer says
Prosecutors offered new details about Jacob Chansley’s role in the violent siege.
And where exactly did they get those orders?all the rioters say they were following Trump's orders
‘QAnon shaman’ was following Trump’s orders and deserves a pardon, his lawyer says
Prosecutors offered new details about Jacob Chansley’s role in the violent siege.
That lame piece of writing is what you would use as a defense of trump's actions and effects on his supporters to mob violence that people died in for his desire for political gain?Calm down skippy.To do nothing and let politics run it's course and let trump off the hook for what he brought about over the two months after the election, violence or no violence is the same as the hands off approach as the mayor and governor in Portland. It will not cool down until you just say NO and mean it. This was beyond the pale. Post election violence whipped up by an elected politician can become pre-election violence whipped up by the same politician or another. A message must be sent. The message to those politicians that would use their rhetoric and false unprovable accusations to stampede a herd, must be NO.interesting analogy. But if my trash fire gets out of control I can't be convicted of arson or any intentional burning of other's property. I could get fined. I could probably be charged with some crime of illegal burning if I failed to do something required or burned during a burn notice.He encouraged it is enough. He should not have. He should not have brought up Pence, as Pence was only carrying out his constitutional duties. He should not have been supporting a claim of stolen election and massive fraud leading to defeat after his own lawyers refused to say it in court and all courts had ruled against him. This is not a criminal proceeding. It (unfortunately for him) is about right and wrong for a president, at the time. It is not about free speech. Propagating a lie and whipping up a crowd to support your lie is not protected. especially if it leads to violence. If you are burning some of your trash to keep warm, but it gets out of control and you burn down somebody's house. You are responsible.(link to the memo is embedded)
READ: House Impeachment Managers' Brief Outlines Arguments For Senate Trial Of Trump
The House Democrats prosecuting the case against the former president argue he holds "singular responsibility" for the Capitol riot and should be convicted and barred from future office.www.npr.org
And I don't see the direct connection to Trump. I'd agree he encouraged the rioters, but I'd think he had to have some foreknowledge of the attack or proof that he intended to provoke them to attack.
If the dems wanted impeachment …. fine. It's something they can legally do. Maybe they pretty much had to do it to satisfy their base What political ramifications it has … I don't know.
But I'm not sure Trump needs much defense other than "where's the beef." And rather than calling idiot qanon shamans to say "I did what he said" the dems should just get the vote and move on. The Shaman saying Trump incited him sort of proves Trump's defense of "nobody but a freaking idiot could think I told them to kill Pence, sheeesh. I like Mike, until he deserted me." LOL
I'm not defending Trump. I've thought since the 1980s that he was richtrash. There's not much I think he's above trying to do if he thinks he can get away with it. And I'm not complaining about him being impeached …. twice.
But unless the dems have some link to the organizers who brought weapons and an agreement to storm the capital or hurt policepeople ….. there's no basis to ban him from running again. And he'd probably help dems if he did.
We watched elected officials on the left claim to have definitive proof of Russian collusion for 3 years; absolute proof of quid pro quo, dozens of unnamed sources of serious Trump wrongdoing; a woman claiming to go to weekly parties of Cavanaugh and her friends where her friends were drugged and train raped (but never exactly explained why she kept going back to those parties)...Melania is a lesbian who hates her Husband, Ivanka had sex with her father...he is a homophobe, a xenophobe, a mysgonist and a racist.....he only paid 750 in taxes...he is a cheater, a liar and a thief....
for four years he was referred to by our elected officials as "not my president" a fraud. a charlatan and illegitimate.
For four years, his 2016 opponent gave lectures, interviews and wrote books about how he should not be president.
And you whine about 2 months?
Really?
And where exactly did they get those orders?all the rioters say they were following Trump's orders
‘QAnon shaman’ was following Trump’s orders and deserves a pardon, his lawyer says
Prosecutors offered new details about Jacob Chansley’s role in the violent siege.
Was it in code?
How did they get the codes?
Did he send out a mass text? A tweet?
Exactly how did he do that with no one but a few people noticing it?
Wow...the man cant get on any social media platform....but somehow he was able to get "code" out to a bunch of people with no one noticing.
DO you really not see how silly that sounds?
There are legal concepts called de facto and de jure. Sometimes what would be illegal discrimination is allowed as legal if it happens just because of fact (facto) and was not required by law (Jure)
And just becuase a man says "peacefully march to the steps of the Capitol and have your voices heard" doesnt make him guilty of inciting a bunch of anarchists.
what the heck is that supposed to mean?That lame piece of writing is what you would use as a defense of trump's actions and effects on his supporters to mob violence that people died in for his desire for political gain?Calm down skippy.To do nothing and let politics run it's course and let trump off the hook for what he brought about over the two months after the election, violence or no violence is the same as the hands off approach as the mayor and governor in Portland. It will not cool down until you just say NO and mean it. This was beyond the pale. Post election violence whipped up by an elected politician can become pre-election violence whipped up by the same politician or another. A message must be sent. The message to those politicians that would use their rhetoric and false unprovable accusations to stampede a herd, must be NO.interesting analogy. But if my trash fire gets out of control I can't be convicted of arson or any intentional burning of other's property. I could get fined. I could probably be charged with some crime of illegal burning if I failed to do something required or burned during a burn notice.He encouraged it is enough. He should not have. He should not have brought up Pence, as Pence was only carrying out his constitutional duties. He should not have been supporting a claim of stolen election and massive fraud leading to defeat after his own lawyers refused to say it in court and all courts had ruled against him. This is not a criminal proceeding. It (unfortunately for him) is about right and wrong for a president, at the time. It is not about free speech. Propagating a lie and whipping up a crowd to support your lie is not protected. especially if it leads to violence. If you are burning some of your trash to keep warm, but it gets out of control and you burn down somebody's house. You are responsible.(link to the memo is embedded)READ: House Impeachment Managers' Brief Outlines Arguments For Senate Trial Of Trump
The House Democrats prosecuting the case against the former president argue he holds "singular responsibility" for the Capitol riot and should be convicted and barred from future office.
And I don't see the direct connection to Trump. I'd agree he encouraged the rioters, but I'd think he had to have some foreknowledge of the attack or proof that he intended to provoke them to attack.
If the dems wanted impeachment …. fine. It's something they can legally do. Maybe they pretty much had to do it to satisfy their base What political ramifications it has … I don't know.
But I'm not sure Trump needs much defense other than "where's the beef." And rather than calling idiot qanon shamans to say "I did what he said" the dems should just get the vote and move on. The Shaman saying Trump incited him sort of proves Trump's defense of "nobody but a freaking idiot could think I told them to kill Pence, sheeesh. I like Mike, until he deserted me." LOL
I'm not defending Trump. I've thought since the 1980s that he was richtrash. There's not much I think he's above trying to do if he thinks he can get away with it. And I'm not complaining about him being impeached …. twice.
But unless the dems have some link to the organizers who brought weapons and an agreement to storm the capital or hurt policepeople ….. there's no basis to ban him from running again. And he'd probably help dems if he did.
We watched elected officials on the left claim to have definitive proof of Russian collusion for 3 years; absolute proof of quid pro quo, dozens of unnamed sources of serious Trump wrongdoing; a woman claiming to go to weekly parties of Cavanaugh and her friends where her friends were drugged and train raped (but never exactly explained why she kept going back to those parties)...Melania is a lesbian who hates her Husband, Ivanka had sex with her father...he is a homophobe, a xenophobe, a mysgonist and a racist.....he only paid 750 in taxes...he is a cheater, a liar and a thief....
for four years he was referred to by our elected officials as "not my president" a fraud. a charlatan and illegitimate.
For four years, his 2016 opponent gave lectures, interviews and wrote books about how he should not be president.
And you whine about 2 months?
Really?
He told them to fight like hell and march down Pennsylvania ave.And where exactly did they get those orders?all the rioters say they were following Trump's orders
‘QAnon shaman’ was following Trump’s orders and deserves a pardon, his lawyer says
Prosecutors offered new details about Jacob Chansley’s role in the violent siege.
Was it in code?
How did they get the codes?
Did he send out a mass text? A tweet?
Exactly how did he do that with no one but a few people noticing it?
Wow...the man cant get on any social media platform....but somehow he was able to get "code" out to a bunch of people with no one noticing.
DO you really not see how silly that sounds?
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Interesting position. That's exactly how I feel about the Republicans in DC who stood up in the house and senate to debate the validity of the election. It was their legal right as well.
No different than telling people, as an elected official, to "get in their faces and tell them they are not welcome here anymore"He told them to fight like hell and march down Pennsylvania ave.And where exactly did they get those orders?all the rioters say they were following Trump's orders
‘QAnon shaman’ was following Trump’s orders and deserves a pardon, his lawyer says
Prosecutors offered new details about Jacob Chansley’s role in the violent siege.
Was it in code?
How did they get the codes?
Did he send out a mass text? A tweet?
Exactly how did he do that with no one but a few people noticing it?
Wow...the man cant get on any social media platform....but somehow he was able to get "code" out to a bunch of people with no one noticing.
DO you really not see how silly that sounds?
AP FACT CHECK: Trump's call to action distorted in debate
WASHINGTON (AP) — The House impeachment debate on Wednesday heard a distorted account of President Donald Trump's remarks to his supporters a week ago when he exhorted them to “fight like hell" before they swarmed the Capitol.
Ah the insurrection and ransacking the capital is the orange ******'s epitaph. The revolution will not be televised …. it will be LIVE
No different than telling people, as an elected official, to "get in their faces and tell them they are not welcome here anymore"He told them to fight like hell and march down Pennsylvania ave.And where exactly did they get those orders?all the rioters say they were following Trump's orders
‘QAnon shaman’ was following Trump’s orders and deserves a pardon, his lawyer says
Prosecutors offered new details about Jacob Chansley’s role in the violent siege.
Was it in code?
How did they get the codes?
Did he send out a mass text? A tweet?
Exactly how did he do that with no one but a few people noticing it?
Wow...the man cant get on any social media platform....but somehow he was able to get "code" out to a bunch of people with no one noticing.
DO you really not see how silly that sounds?
AP FACT CHECK: Trump's call to action distorted in debate
WASHINGTON (AP) — The House impeachment debate on Wednesday heard a distorted account of President Donald Trump's remarks to his supporters a week ago when he exhorted them to “fight like hell" before they swarmed the Capitol.
He did not tell them to storm the Capitol and Waters did not tell her constituants to grab cabinet members and throw them over the border.
You really need to lighten up. You truly are coming across as a snowflake.
yet he never once told them to bear their arms and storm the capitol.
and the same link talks about Pelosi saying impeachment of Trump was derisive......shows you how hoonest she is....No different than telling people, as an elected official, to "get in their faces and tell them they are not welcome here anymore"He told them to fight like hell and march down Pennsylvania ave.And where exactly did they get those orders?all the rioters say they were following Trump's orders
‘QAnon shaman’ was following Trump’s orders and deserves a pardon, his lawyer says
Prosecutors offered new details about Jacob Chansley’s role in the violent siege.
Was it in code?
How did they get the codes?
Did he send out a mass text? A tweet?
Exactly how did he do that with no one but a few people noticing it?
Wow...the man cant get on any social media platform....but somehow he was able to get "code" out to a bunch of people with no one noticing.
DO you really not see how silly that sounds?
AP FACT CHECK: Trump's call to action distorted in debate
WASHINGTON (AP) — The House impeachment debate on Wednesday heard a distorted account of President Donald Trump's remarks to his supporters a week ago when he exhorted them to “fight like hell" before they swarmed the Capitol.
He did not tell them to storm the Capitol and Waters did not tell her constituants to grab cabinet members and throw them over the border.
You really need to lighten up. You truly are coming across as a snowflake.
Here's the difference.
Nancy Pelosi rebuked fellow Democrat Rep. Maxine Waters on Monday for urging her supporters to confront Trump administration officials in their day-to-day lives.
The House Democratic leader’s censure of her colleague highlights the difficult choices Democratic leaders face as they try to leverage energized opposition to the Trump administration and take a House majority in November’s midterm elections.
Pelosi rebukes Democratic Rep. Maxine Waters for urging supporters to confront Trump administration officials
Nancy Pelosi's rebuke of Maxine Waters echoes the decisions Democrats face over whether to call for President Donald Trump's impeachment.www.cnbc.com
(link to the memo is embedded)READ: House Impeachment Managers' Brief Outlines Arguments For Senate Trial Of Trump
The House Democrats prosecuting the case against the former president argue he holds "singular responsibility" for the Capitol riot and should be convicted and barred from future office.
And I don't see the direct connection to Trump. I'd agree he encouraged the rioters, but I'd think he had to have some foreknowledge of the attack or proof that he intended to provoke them to attack.
If the dems wanted impeachment …. fine. It's something they can legally do. Maybe they pretty much had to do it to satisfy their base What political ramifications it has … I don't know.
But I'm not sure Trump needs much defense other than "where's the beef." And rather than calling idiot qanon shamans to say "I did what he said" the dems should just get the vote and move on. The Shaman saying Trump incited him sort of proves Trump's defense of "nobody but a freaking idiot could think I told them to kill Pence, sheeesh. I like Mike, until he deserted me." LOL
