I might vote for Hillary Clinton now!

[Synthaholic]

But the main reason is the media went softball with him for a year. They didn't call him out. Never confronted him with evidence to his face. They still don't: Trump claims he was always against the war, but you've never seen the interviewer play the Howard Stern remarks to Trump's face. It's never happened. Because the media is soft on Trump. That's starting to change, but that just makes the media look bad - they should have been calling bullshit from Day 1.

You stumbled on a really good point here without knowing it. The Media is the PR arm of the Democrat Party. All through the primaries, every time Trump made a statement that would have ended most political careers, we wondered at how he managed to spin it into better poll numbers. It was the power of the media.

First, they would give Trump ample time to explain his comments. Trump is a natural promoter so he could spin anything and do it convincingly. The media gave him the air time and then served to 'reinforce' his spin in their 'editorial' commentary. Well, yes, it was brash, but he's not a politician... and that's what people like, he speaks his mind! They helped him promote the spin and the gullible public bought it while scratching their heads as to how Trump got out of yet another crazy statement.

Well now... they got the candidate they wanted through the nomination. The game changes. He no longer gets the air time to explain his comments and the media is not helping promote his spin. And don't worry... the Howard Stern interview is coming... so is the scathing documentary NBC purchased. It's all going to be unleashed on Trump now because the media is in the tank for Hillary... they have been all along... this whole thing was by design.

Like any conservative, you have a few facts, which you twist to fit your narrative.

The media is in the tank for ratings. Period.

Les Moonves admitted it:

"It May Not Be Good for America, but It's Damn Good for CBS"

Leslie Moonves on Donald Trump: "It May Not Be Good for America, but It's Damn Good for CBS"

 

[thanatos144]

But the main reason is the media went softball with him for a year. They didn't call him out. Never confronted him with evidence to his face. They still don't: Trump claims he was always against the war, but you've never seen the interviewer play the Howard Stern remarks to Trump's face. It's never happened. Because the media is soft on Trump. That's starting to change, but that just makes the media look bad - they should have been calling bullshit from Day 1.

You stumbled on a really good point here without knowing it. The Media is the PR arm of the Democrat Party. All through the primaries, every time Trump made a statement that would have ended most political careers, we wondered at how he managed to spin it into better poll numbers. It was the power of the media.

First, they would give Trump ample time to explain his comments. Trump is a natural promoter so he could spin anything and do it convincingly. The media gave him the air time and then served to 'reinforce' his spin in their 'editorial' commentary. Well, yes, it was brash, but he's not a politician... and that's what people like, he speaks his mind! They helped him promote the spin and the gullible public bought it while scratching their heads as to how Trump got out of yet another crazy statement.

Well now... they got the candidate they wanted through the nomination. The game changes. He no longer gets the air time to explain his comments and the media is not helping promote his spin. And don't worry... the Howard Stern interview is coming... so is the scathing documentary NBC purchased. It's all going to be unleashed on Trump now because the media is in the tank for Hillary... they have been all along... this whole thing was by design.

Like any conservative, you have a few facts, which you twist to fit your narrative.

The media is in the tank for ratings. Period.

Les Moonves admitted it:

"It May Not Be Good for America, but It's Damn Good for CBS"

Leslie Moonves on Donald Trump: "It May Not Be Good for America, but It's Damn Good for CBS"

Do you get paid to post? Because it is hard to believe someone is as gullible and stupid as you are

Sent from my SM-G386T1 using Tapatalk

 

[LaDexter]

The media is in the tank for ratings. Period.

Actually, the one common thread that sticks to every major media in the US is obsession/love affair with Israel.

In the late 1980s when I was much younger, I was learning about the left wing bias of the US news media, how they hated Reagan etc. Then GHWB was confronted with Saddam's invasion of Kuwait, and all of a sudden the Democrats were peacenicking while the "US media" was spearheading the charge for war, even being pro GHWB. What's up, I thought. Now, I fully understand. The "US media" cares about ISRAEL. Everything it does stems from that. That is why there is no interest in showing the Pentagon videos from 911, nor asking why one Earth polar circle has 9 times the ice of the other. If ISRAEL is behind FRAUD, the US MEDIA will do everything possible to COVER THAT UP, and that extends fully to Hillary's warmongering treason in Syria...

 

[cereal_killer]

Read >>>> Articles: Let's Assume Trump Is Shrewd and Disciplined, Principled and Patriotic

it's from a Cruz supporter. Read it through, perhaps you will identify with some of the things he says

Oh yes... the Repentant Cruz supporter who has now seen the error of his ways... a conservative "purist" ...rejecting the genius that is Trump!

Hey look... the guy makes some good points against those who are completely averse to ever thinking about voting for Trump... that's not me. That's not most Cruz supporters. That may be a few 'butthurt' establishment types like the Bush clan... but that's not US!

A Conservative, contrary to what this guy says, is someone who believes in the founding constitutional principles of individual liberty. That means less of government doing things for you. A true "purist" wouldn't favor the government doing anything for you. I think I speak for most conservatives in saying we want the government to do certain things for us. I'm a conservationist, I like for my rivers and streams to be kept clean of contaminants. I don't want to breathe smog and carcinogens. I want my children and grandkids to be protected from asbestos and lead paint. I think the government does a lot of good things for us. So I don't see myself as a "purist" at all.

I have a Conservative philosophy. My ideology is more independent. I can be very strikingly liberal on a few things. It might surprise you if you got to know me. Everyone is an individual.... so this idea of the "butthurt Cruz bots" is silly and nonsensical. It's no different than what the liberal do every day. Marginalize people... put them in a stereotypical box and attack that meme until it's defeated and crushed!

Well I don't play that game. We're all Americans. We will all survive this election regardless of who wins. Our nation will continue on and politics will continue. We're all still going to have our political voice. I think that it's going to be very SAD for us to face a future where we're saying.... "If only we had......" I'm not a "party" guy... never have been. And the GOP without Conservatism is a dead party, in my opinion.

Congratulations on Trump winning the GOP nomination but it's now his responsibility to win the election. He cannot win without the Conservative vote. Insulting them isn't working out very well. Trying to shame them or call them names... not working. Attempting to marginalize, then stereotype and destroy... not working. So you know... it might be time to open your heart and listen to them? Maybe act like you want their vote?

Then... it might be nice if you could get your candidate to stop saying stupid shit?

No Republican can/could win without the Conservative vote, but don't mistake the conservative vote for the butthurt Hillary shills known as #nevertrump and the GOPe. They are a fringe group out on their own little island.

I'm not gonna bust your balls for voting for Hillary because that is your right and your choice. A Clinton presidency in your eyes isn't the "end of the world" so you should vote your conscience.

 

[amethyst]

boss

you are ignoring me, but as you contemplate a vote for your conscience or hillary, the heart and soul of conservativism across farmlands is under attack by nobama. huge grants are being awarded to lesbian farmers in a so called effort to force the area to embrace being different. the reality is they want to dillute that conservative block.

yeah, i warned you about conservative values going extinct. weak and unprincipled republicans like you will make that happen.

i cant believe that i, an ex bernie supporter, knows what is at stake here- that i must remind you. i have chosen my new party and i for one am fighting to keep it intact.

shame on you.

 

[Boss]

No Republican can/could win without the Conservative vote, but don't mistake the conservative vote for the butthurt Hillary shills known as #nevertrump and the GOPe. They are a fringe group out on their own little island.

I'm not gonna bust your balls for voting for Hillary because that is your right and your choice. A Clinton presidency in your eyes isn't the "end of the world" so you should vote your conscience.

Well, I haven't followed what he has said today but the first two days of this week it appears Trump is getting on the Conservative Train. That's a good sign because it's what we've said all along that he needs to do in order to win this election. At least he is heading in the right direction... that's progress for Trump and I am happy about that... see? No butthurt!

Now, I don't know what kind of "Hillary shills" voted in the GOP primaries or who would vote for the Republican in the presidential race but even you should realize how pathetically silly that sounds.

Lets us delve into some deep-tissue philosophy here for a moment, shall we? Do you know anyone here at USMB, on television or in your personal life who will proudly proclaim themselves "establishment republican!"? I know of NO ONE! ZE-RO!

So where/who are all these so-called GOPe'ers?

I've been wondering about that all along, and I bet you if we did a little survey on the rabid "anti-cruz" Trumpeteers, we would find you to be virtually the same crowd who just HAD to nominate McCain and Romney because the Establishment convinced you they were the only ones who could win. My theory is supported by the evidence... you're all "populists!"

So this time, you've backed an "anti-establishment" populist and you're STILL kicking the Conservatives to the curb. It's not because you're a larger demographic, it's that our votes are split between numerous candidates every single time. If you look at the last few election cycles in the Congress, you'll find that Conservatives are kicking ass and taking names. We're coming to Washington. The Conservative movement is down at the moment but they are not out.

What we need is another "Great Communicator" and that's not Donald Trump. Maybe it's not Ted Cruz either? But Conservatives are going to have to learn a lesson and pick someone to carry their banner so they can coalesce behind them and win a primary. There are just too many people in the GOP willing to march in lockstep with the party, no matter how out-of-tune the party is.

We are going to adhere to our principles and hold a GOP president to account for his actions if he doesn't represent us. His agenda will have to be things we can go along with or there will be resistance. I don't think Trump really needs much resistance if he wins. He is going to want allies in Congress. So... like us or not, you're going to have to get over yourselves. We're not going away.

 

[Boss]

boss

you are ignoring me, but as you contemplate a vote for your conscience or hillary, the heart and soul of conservativism across farmlands is under attack by nobama. huge grants are being awarded to lesbian farmers in a so called effort to force the area to embrace being different. the reality is they want to dillute that conservative block.

yeah, i warned you about conservative values going extinct. weak and unprincipled republicans like you will make that happen.

i cant believe that i, an ex bernie supporter, knows what is at stake here- that i must remind you. i have chosen my new party and i for one am fighting to keep it intact.

shame on you.

Not ignoring you in particular, I just don't comment if there's nothing to say. You're entitled to your opinion... vote your conscience.

I vote my conscience but my conscience is guided by Conservative principles of constitutional individual liberty and free enterprise. I don't feel either of the top two candidates represent me and I don't like to waste my vote on a useless third party spoiler. There is still time for my viewpoint to change... at this time, I don't think I will be voting for Hillary Clinton. I would like to say I am voting for Trump but at the moment, I am waiting to see where he's going with his message. I like what I've heard this week but he could completely ass things up before Friday. Today is only Wednesday!

And I will tell you straight up... I AM NO PARTY GUY! I'm just NOT... never have been. I vote on the best candidate, it just happens to be that lately it's a Republican. And it also happens to be, the Republican party has (during my voting life) always been the party to stand for Constitutional principles of individual liberty over government. Republicanism... Federalism. The DNC platform is absolute Marxism... they don't even really attempt to hide it anymore.

 

[cereal_killer]

No Republican can/could win without the Conservative vote, but don't mistake the conservative vote for the butthurt Hillary shills known as #nevertrump and the GOPe. They are a fringe group out on their own little island.

I'm not gonna bust your balls for voting for Hillary because that is your right and your choice. A Clinton presidency in your eyes isn't the "end of the world" so you should vote your conscience.

Well, I haven't followed what he has said today but the first two days of this week it appears Trump is getting on the Conservative Train. That's a good sign because it's what we've said all along that he needs to do in order to win this election. At least he is heading in the right direction... that's progress for Trump and I am happy about that... see? No butthurt!

Now, I don't know what kind of "Hillary shills" voted in the GOP primaries or who would vote for the Republican in the presidential race but even you should realize how pathetically silly that sounds.

Lets us delve into some deep-tissue philosophy here for a moment, shall we? Do you know anyone here at USMB, on television or in your personal life who will proudly proclaim themselves "establishment republican!"? I know of NO ONE! ZE-RO!

So where/who are all these so-called GOPe'ers?

I've been wondering about that all along, and I bet you if we did a little survey on the rabid "anti-cruz" Trumpeteers, we would find you to be virtually the same crowd who just HAD to nominate McCain and Romney because the Establishment convinced you they were the only ones who could win. My theory is supported by the evidence... you're all "populists!"

So this time, you've backed an "anti-establishment" populist and you're STILL kicking the Conservatives to the curb. It's not because you're a larger demographic, it's that our votes are split between numerous candidates every single time. If you look at the last few election cycles in the Congress, you'll find that Conservatives are kicking ass and taking names. We're coming to Washington. The Conservative movement is down at the moment but they are not out.

What we need is another "Great Communicator" and that's not Donald Trump. Maybe it's not Ted Cruz either? But Conservatives are going to have to learn a lesson and pick someone to carry their banner so they can coalesce behind them and win a primary. There are just too many people in the GOP willing to march in lockstep with the party, no matter how out-of-tune the party is.

We are going to adhere to our principles and hold a GOP president to account for his actions if he doesn't represent us. His agenda will have to be things we can go along with or there will be resistance. I don't think Trump really needs much resistance if he wins. He is going to want allies in Congress. So... like us or not, you're going to have to get over yourselves. We're not going away.

Speaker Ryan, McCain, McConnell that pussy Lindsey Graham to name a few. Washington is full of these establishment types. They may have an R or a D next to their name but they're all in bed together.

BTW the GOP has turned into a populist party so you better get used to it. It will never go back to the way it was which is a very good thing. The tent is much larger and more inclusive now. I do not like Neocons and the "conservatives" who identify themselves as #nevertrump. They need to go.

Lastly I agree wholeheartedly that we will and should hold Trump accountable as POTUS. He has a mandate with the American people (those that voted for him) and has publicly acknowledged that fact.

 

[amethyst]

boss

you are ignoring me, but as you contemplate a vote for your conscience or hillary, the heart and soul of conservativism across farmlands is under attack by nobama. huge grants are being awarded to lesbian farmers in a so called effort to force the area to embrace being different. the reality is they want to dillute that conservative block.

yeah, i warned you about conservative values going extinct. weak and unprincipled republicans like you will make that happen.

i cant believe that i, an ex bernie supporter, knows what is at stake here- that i must remind you. i have chosen my new party and i for one am fighting to keep it intact.

shame on you.

Not ignoring you in particular, I just don't comment if there's nothing to say. You're entitled to your opinion... vote your conscience.

I vote my conscience but my conscience is guided by Conservative principles of constitutional individual liberty and free enterprise. I don't feel either of the top two candidates represent me and I don't like to waste my vote on a useless third party spoiler. There is still time for my viewpoint to change... at this time, I don't think I will be voting for Hillary Clinton. I would like to say I am voting for Trump but at the moment, I am waiting to see where he's going with his message. I like what I've heard this week but he could completely ass things up before Friday. Today is only Wednesday!

And I will tell you straight up... I AM NO PARTY GUY! I'm just NOT... never have been. I vote on the best candidate, it just happens to be that lately it's a Republican. And it also happens to be, the Republican party has (during my voting life) always been the party to stand for Constitutional principles of individual liberty over government. Republicanism... Federalism. The DNC platform is absolute Marxism... they don't even really attempt to hide it anymore.

thanks for responding. i was a hillary PUMA who opposed nobama on his record of voting present, being hailed as the most maleable credit card bank candidate, and one who would side with the poor while his crony Axelrod worked in the background to undermine in perfect coordination. that is what we got and more. he ran on being a uniter, on stopping the patriot act, capping payday loan interest rates at 37%, and taxing the rich. the rich got richer, the poor are most oppressed with home. auto, and payday loan predators, and surveillance is all encompassing. furthermore, banks were bailed out and his infrastructure stimulus was diverted resulting in (guess what) the need for infrastructure repair which hillary is calling for. moreover, the clean energy projects involving wind, solar, and more all failed within years. additionally nobamacare has left middleclass families like mine paying ridiculous premiums for we dont qualify for subsidies. we pay $14,000.00 a yr in premiums and each has a $6,000 deductible-- not a penny is paid until the $6,000 is paid.

hillary is running on the continunce of such policies with an agenda that includes personal enrichment at the expense of americans. the corruption is beyond comprehension.

so you see why i felt the need to post here. there is nothing conservative in her agenda. if she respected the constitution you so dearly hold, most voters would still respect the presidency, the justice system, and the election process. trumps misguided words dont compare to her huge lack of moral compass. jill stein of the green party explained that eloquently in the town hall meeting tonight.

best of luck sorting it out. trump will give us a police state already started by nobama and forced by lawless haters of law and order. ive accepted that scenario.

 

[Boss]

Speaker Ryan, McCain, McConnell that pussy Lindsey Graham to name a few. Washington is full of these establishment types. They may have an R or a D next to their name but they're all in bed together.

BTW the GOP has turned into a populist party so you better get used to it. It will never go back to the way it was which is a very good thing. The tent is much larger and more inclusive now. I do not like Neocons and the "conservatives" who identify themselves as #nevertrump. They need to go.

Lastly I agree wholeheartedly that we will and should hold Trump accountable as POTUS. He has a mandate with the American people (those that voted for him) and has publicly acknowledged that fact.

Well I am not talking about the people in Washington who you define as "establishment" I am well aware of who they are...I meant the voters who are "establishment" voters... where are they? Where are the millions upon millions who voted for Mitt Romney and John McCain in the last two primaries?

Frankly, I don't give a damn who you think needs to go or what you think I need to get used to. What you need to get used to is Conservatives who you can't win a damn election without. The tent you and Trump were headed for wasn't much larger it was much smaller... that's why he's suddenly sounding like a Conservative again. And if he should win, he better well govern like a conservative or he'll be a one-term president.

You may WISH that you were rid of us... but that's not the case. Like it or not, we Conservatives are a vital part of your party and if you don't respect us then you'll fucking lose the election. So do what you want... smear and slime conservatives and piss them off so they don't vote for Trump and we'll have 4 or 8 years of Hillary Clinton... if it's THAT important to you to hate Conservatives.

 

[Boss]

boss

you are ignoring me, but as you contemplate a vote for your conscience or hillary, the heart and soul of conservativism across farmlands is under attack by nobama. huge grants are being awarded to lesbian farmers in a so called effort to force the area to embrace being different. the reality is they want to dillute that conservative block.

yeah, i warned you about conservative values going extinct. weak and unprincipled republicans like you will make that happen.

i cant believe that i, an ex bernie supporter, knows what is at stake here- that i must remind you. i have chosen my new party and i for one am fighting to keep it intact.

shame on you.

Not ignoring you in particular, I just don't comment if there's nothing to say. You're entitled to your opinion... vote your conscience.

I vote my conscience but my conscience is guided by Conservative principles of constitutional individual liberty and free enterprise. I don't feel either of the top two candidates represent me and I don't like to waste my vote on a useless third party spoiler. There is still time for my viewpoint to change... at this time, I don't think I will be voting for Hillary Clinton. I would like to say I am voting for Trump but at the moment, I am waiting to see where he's going with his message. I like what I've heard this week but he could completely ass things up before Friday. Today is only Wednesday!

And I will tell you straight up... I AM NO PARTY GUY! I'm just NOT... never have been. I vote on the best candidate, it just happens to be that lately it's a Republican. And it also happens to be, the Republican party has (during my voting life) always been the party to stand for Constitutional principles of individual liberty over government. Republicanism... Federalism. The DNC platform is absolute Marxism... they don't even really attempt to hide it anymore.

thanks for responding. i was a hillary PUMA who opposed nobama on his record of voting present, being hailed as the most maleable credit card bank candidate, and one who would side with the poor while his crony Axelrod worked in the background to undermine in perfect coordination. that is what we got and more. he ran on being a uniter, on stopping the patriot act, capping payday loan interest rates at 37%, and taxing the rich. the rich got richer, the poor are most oppressed with home. auto, and payday loan predators, and surveillance is all encompassing. furthermore, banks were bailed out and his infrastructure stimulus was diverted resulting in (guess what) the need for infrastructure repair which hillary is calling for. moreover, the clean energy projects involving wind, solar, and more all failed within years. additionally nobamacare has left middleclass families like mine paying ridiculous premiums for we dont qualify for subsidies. we pay $14,000.00 a yr in premiums and each has a $6,000 deductible-- not a penny is paid until the $6,000 is paid.

hillary is running on the continunce of such policies with an agenda that includes personal enrichment at the expense of americans. the corruption is beyond comprehension.

so you see why i felt the need to post here. there is nothing conservative in her agenda. if she respected the constitution you so dearly hold, most voters would still respect the presidency, the justice system, and the election process. trumps misguided words dont compare to her huge lack of moral compass. jill stein of the green party explained that eloquently in the town hall meeting tonight.

best of luck sorting it out. trump will give us a police state already started by nobama and forced by lawless haters of law and order. ive accepted that scenario.

Look... I guess people read the title of the thread and don't bother reading the OP.... I keep having to explain to folks... you don't have to convince me of how terrible Hillary Clinton is... that's NOT why I said I might vote for her. It had nothing to do with her or her policies. I realize she is awful.. an un-indicted criminal... corrupt to the core... I've got all that.

The reason I posted this thread was because of the treatment conservative Ted Cruz supporters were getting from the Trump crowd. This arrogant smart-ass besmirching and insulting that started the night Ted Cruz gave his RNC speech and didn't endorse Trump. And if Trump were still up in the polls, it would still be going on. CK can hardly post without a backhanded slap at me for being a Conservative. But everyone should be well aware by now that this election cannot be won without the Conservative vote. Trump supporters need to decide who they want to beat the worst... Hillary or Conservatives... because you can't do both.

 

[thanatos144]

The media is in the tank for ratings. Period.

Actually, the one common thread that sticks to every major media in the US is obsession/love affair with Israel.

In the late 1980s when I was much younger, I was learning about the left wing bias of the US news media, how they hated Reagan etc. Then GHWB was confronted with Saddam's invasion of Kuwait, and all of a sudden the Democrats were peacenicking while the "US media" was spearheading the charge for war, even being pro GHWB. What's up, I thought. Now, I fully understand. The "US media" cares about ISRAEL. Everything it does stems from that. That is why there is no interest in showing the Pentagon videos from 911, nor asking why one Earth polar circle has 9 times the ice of the other. If ISRAEL is behind FRAUD, the US MEDIA will do everything possible to COVER THAT UP, and that extends fully to Hillary's warmongering treason in Syria...

So the evil Jews are at fault for all war and global warming???? Do the voices in your head tell you to hurt yourself or others?

 

[thanatos144]

No Republican can/could win without the Conservative vote, but don't mistake the conservative vote for the butthurt Hillary shills known as #nevertrump and the GOPe. They are a fringe group out on their own little island.

I'm not gonna bust your balls for voting for Hillary because that is your right and your choice. A Clinton presidency in your eyes isn't the "end of the world" so you should vote your conscience.

Well, I haven't followed what he has said today but the first two days of this week it appears Trump is getting on the Conservative Train. That's a good sign because it's what we've said all along that he needs to do in order to win this election. At least he is heading in the right direction... that's progress for Trump and I am happy about that... see? No butthurt!

Now, I don't know what kind of "Hillary shills" voted in the GOP primaries or who would vote for the Republican in the presidential race but even you should realize how pathetically silly that sounds.

Lets us delve into some deep-tissue philosophy here for a moment, shall we? Do you know anyone here at USMB, on television or in your personal life who will proudly proclaim themselves "establishment republican!"? I know of NO ONE! ZE-RO!

So where/who are all these so-called GOPe'ers?

I've been wondering about that all along, and I bet you if we did a little survey on the rabid "anti-cruz" Trumpeteers, we would find you to be virtually the same crowd who just HAD to nominate McCain and Romney because the Establishment convinced you they were the only ones who could win. My theory is supported by the evidence... you're all "populists!"

So this time, you've backed an "anti-establishment" populist and you're STILL kicking the Conservatives to the curb. It's not because you're a larger demographic, it's that our votes are split between numerous candidates every single time. If you look at the last few election cycles in the Congress, you'll find that Conservatives are kicking ass and taking names. We're coming to Washington. The Conservative movement is down at the moment but they are not out.

What we need is another "Great Communicator" and that's not Donald Trump. Maybe it's not Ted Cruz either? But Conservatives are going to have to learn a lesson and pick someone to carry their banner so they can coalesce behind them and win a primary. There are just too many people in the GOP willing to march in lockstep with the party, no matter how out-of-tune the party is.

We are going to adhere to our principles and hold a GOP president to account for his actions if he doesn't represent us. His agenda will have to be things we can go along with or there will be resistance. I don't think Trump really needs much resistance if he wins. He is going to want allies in Congress. So... like us or not, you're going to have to get over yourselves. We're not going away.

Speaker Ryan, McCain, McConnell that pussy Lindsey Graham to name a few. Washington is full of these establishment types. They may have an R or a D next to their name but they're all in bed together.

BTW the GOP has turned into a populist party so you better get used to it. It will never go back to the way it was which is a very good thing. The tent is much larger and more inclusive now. I do not like Neocons and the "conservatives" who identify themselves as #nevertrump. They need to go.

Lastly I agree wholeheartedly that we will and should hold Trump accountable as POTUS. He has a mandate with the American people (those that voted for him) and has publicly acknowledged that fact.

All those pussies as you call then fully support your authoritarian candidate Trump so who is the establishment again????

 

[cereal_killer]

Speaker Ryan, McCain, McConnell that pussy Lindsey Graham to name a few. Washington is full of these establishment types. They may have an R or a D next to their name but they're all in bed together.

BTW the GOP has turned into a populist party so you better get used to it. It will never go back to the way it was which is a very good thing. The tent is much larger and more inclusive now. I do not like Neocons and the "conservatives" who identify themselves as #nevertrump. They need to go.

Lastly I agree wholeheartedly that we will and should hold Trump accountable as POTUS. He has a mandate with the American people (those that voted for him) and has publicly acknowledged that fact.

Well I am not talking about the people in Washington who you define as "establishment" I am well aware of who they are...I meant the voters who are "establishment" voters... where are they? Where are the millions upon millions who voted for Mitt Romney and John McCain in the last two primaries?

Frankly, I don't give a damn who you think needs to go or what you think I need to get used to. What you need to get used to is Conservatives who you can't win a damn election without. The tent you and Trump were headed for wasn't much larger it was much smaller... that's why he's suddenly sounding like a Conservative again. And if he should win, he better well govern like a conservative or he'll be a one-term president.

You may WISH that you were rid of us... but that's not the case. Like it or not, we Conservatives are a vital part of your party and if you don't respect us then you'll fucking lose the election. So do what you want... smear and slime conservatives and piss them off so they don't vote for Trump and we'll have 4 or 8 years of Hillary Clinton... if it's THAT important to you to hate Conservatives.

Outside of the Washington elites "regular voters" aren't lumped into the establishment category. You have pansies like Bill Kristol, Erick Ericson, Ben Shapiro, Glen Beck and a host of other douche conservatives who should gtfo of the republican party and move on. Instead they act like giant whiny pussies. They aren't relevant anymore in the Republican party and only serve to prop up and support the liberal medias narrative.

Explain to me how the tent is much smaller when Trump in a huge field of candidates amassed the most votes for any Republican candidate in the history of the party? Do you not even realize the enormity of that? Add to that the Dems/libs/Republicans who voted for other canddates and Independents who will vote for Trump in the GE and you have an even larger tent. Douche Romney and McCain couldn't even fill the back of a pickup truck of support in comparison.

 

[Synthaholic]

BTW the GOP has turned into a populist party so you better get used to it. It will never go back to the way it was which is a very good thing.

You should skim this:

Hullabaloo

 

[Boss]

Outside of the Washington elites "regular voters" aren't lumped into the establishment category. You have pansies like Bill Kristol, Erick Ericson, Ben Shapiro, Glen Beck and a host of other douche conservatives who should gtfo of the republican party and move on. Instead they act like giant whiny pussies. They aren't relevant anymore in the Republican party and only serve to prop up and support the liberal medias narrative.

Explain to me how the tent is much smaller when Trump in a huge field of candidates amassed the most votes for any Republican candidate in the history of the party? Do you not even realize the enormity of that? Add to that the Dems/libs/Republicans who voted for other canddates and Independents who will vote for Trump in the GE and you have an even larger tent. Douche Romney and McCain couldn't even fill the back of a pickup truck of support in comparison.

Again... How do you suppose these "establishment" types got into office? Somebody obviously voted for them! How many voters do you know who admit they support the establishment republicans? That was my question to you.... I've not seen your answer.

Okay... so you reel off a list of republicans who you think need to get the fuck out.... then you ask me how the tent is smaller? I've watched you people rip and tear apart anyone who isn't worshiping at the altar of Trump.... but you somehow think they are all going to vote for Trump. It's absolute insanity! You're pushing everyone out of the tent who isn't in lockstep with their pom-poms waving for Trump and what you're going to get is a landslide victory for Hillary Clinton and possibly lose the House and Senate as well.

Bill Krystol is a flaming fucking NEOCON! I disagree with his NEOCON ideology.... but the GOP needs his vote to win this election. You can't afford to be throwing people out of the party... you do not have those kinds of numbers, regardless of what you might think. Yes, Trump got 14 million votes... the other GOP candidates tallied over 17 million votes. We had a lot of people participating in the GOP primaries but this is not the primaries anymore... this is the GENERAL election... you'll need 65~69 million votes to beat Hillary.... where are you going to get them?

You see... You have to MAKE THE CASE for your candidate. You can't insult and humiliate people into voting for him, that's never going to be effective. Telling me that I'm irrelevant, isn't winning me over to your side. Calling me a pussy or claiming I am butthurt because my guy lost... not winning me over. You've gotta drop that shit like a bad habit and start making the case for why I should vote for Donald Trump... and it needs to be more substantial than "he's not Hillary!"

If you cannot change this tone, you're going to lose... and you may take the House and Senate with you. At this point, I can't change what's going to happen with Trump. My focus is on trying to hold on to the House and Senate because if we lose those, the country is gone forever. You can forget about your movement, my movement or anyone else's movement that isn't a Marxist.

 

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boss

you are ignoring me, but as you contemplate a vote for your conscience or hillary, the heart and soul of conservativism across farmlands is under attack by nobama. huge grants are being awarded to lesbian farmers in a so called effort to force the area to embrace being different. the reality is they want to dillute that conservative block.

yeah, i warned you about conservative values going extinct. weak and unprincipled republicans like you will make that happen.

i cant believe that i, an ex bernie supporter, knows what is at stake here- that i must remind you. i have chosen my new party and i for one am fighting to keep it intact.

shame on you.

Not ignoring you in particular, I just don't comment if there's nothing to say. You're entitled to your opinion... vote your conscience.

I vote my conscience but my conscience is guided by Conservative principles of constitutional individual liberty and free enterprise. I don't feel either of the top two candidates represent me and I don't like to waste my vote on a useless third party spoiler. There is still time for my viewpoint to change... at this time, I don't think I will be voting for Hillary Clinton. I would like to say I am voting for Trump but at the moment, I am waiting to see where he's going with his message. I like what I've heard this week but he could completely ass things up before Friday. Today is only Wednesday!

And I will tell you straight up... I AM NO PARTY GUY! I'm just NOT... never have been. I vote on the best candidate, it just happens to be that lately it's a Republican. And it also happens to be, the Republican party has (during my voting life) always been the party to stand for Constitutional principles of individual liberty over government. Republicanism... Federalism. The DNC platform is absolute Marxism... they don't even really attempt to hide it anymore.

thanks for responding. i was a hillary PUMA who opposed nobama on his record of voting present, being hailed as the most maleable credit card bank candidate, and one who would side with the poor while his crony Axelrod worked in the background to undermine in perfect coordination. that is what we got and more. he ran on being a uniter, on stopping the patriot act, capping payday loan interest rates at 37%, and taxing the rich. the rich got richer, the poor are most oppressed with home. auto, and payday loan predators, and surveillance is all encompassing. furthermore, banks were bailed out and his infrastructure stimulus was diverted resulting in (guess what) the need for infrastructure repair which hillary is calling for. moreover, the clean energy projects involving wind, solar, and more all failed within years. additionally nobamacare has left middleclass families like mine paying ridiculous premiums for we dont qualify for subsidies. we pay $14,000.00 a yr in premiums and each has a $6,000 deductible-- not a penny is paid until the $6,000 is paid.

hillary is running on the continunce of such policies with an agenda that includes personal enrichment at the expense of americans. the corruption is beyond comprehension.

so you see why i felt the need to post here. there is nothing conservative in her agenda. if she respected the constitution you so dearly hold, most voters would still respect the presidency, the justice system, and the election process. trumps misguided words dont compare to her huge lack of moral compass. jill stein of the green party explained that eloquently in the town hall meeting tonight.

best of luck sorting it out. trump will give us a police state already started by nobama and forced by lawless haters of law and order. ive accepted that scenario.

Look... I guess people read the title of the thread and don't bother reading the OP.... I keep having to explain to folks... you don't have to convince me of how terrible Hillary Clinton is... that's NOT why I said I might vote for her. It had nothing to do with her or her policies. I realize she is awful.. an un-indicted criminal... corrupt to the core... I've got all that.

The reason I posted this thread was because of the treatment conservative Ted Cruz supporters were getting from the Trump crowd. This arrogant smart-ass besmirching and insulting that started the night Ted Cruz gave his RNC speech and didn't endorse Trump. And if Trump were still up in the polls, it would still be going on. CK can hardly post without a backhanded slap at me for being a Conservative. But everyone should be well aware by now that this election cannot be won without the Conservative vote. Trump supporters need to decide who they want to beat the worst... Hillary or Conservatives... because you can't do both.

the 2016 rnc primary covention was my first. my husband and i watched to immerse ourselves in our new party. prayer throughout the night was comforting and the absence of beyonce type entertainment produced a feeling of family. the speakers were not pelosi and barbara boxer types; they were real americans. and they werent like khan who prepared the clintons taxes and received $350,000 from the clinton foundation. it was pleasant and fun. then ted cruz pulled his crap just to start his next presidential campaign? how do you think i felt?

did you know he left the stage and entered the "donors box" to solicit and was run off with the words, "you are a disgrace!"
did you know he had his donation appeal ready and blasted that email that very night? the next morning he was rallying. i know many supporters who are done with him. even sean hannity says he doesnt trust him and others that broke their word.

the anger and resentment your republican attackers feel for cruz will subside, but honestly i am having a hard time voting for rubio in fl. i dont trust him. he might try to impeach trump.

 

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Republicans Gaining on Democrats in Florida Voter Registration

 

[Boss]

boss

you are ignoring me, but as you contemplate a vote for your conscience or hillary, the heart and soul of conservativism across farmlands is under attack by nobama. huge grants are being awarded to lesbian farmers in a so called effort to force the area to embrace being different. the reality is they want to dillute that conservative block.

yeah, i warned you about conservative values going extinct. weak and unprincipled republicans like you will make that happen.

i cant believe that i, an ex bernie supporter, knows what is at stake here- that i must remind you. i have chosen my new party and i for one am fighting to keep it intact.

shame on you.

Not ignoring you in particular, I just don't comment if there's nothing to say. You're entitled to your opinion... vote your conscience.

I vote my conscience but my conscience is guided by Conservative principles of constitutional individual liberty and free enterprise. I don't feel either of the top two candidates represent me and I don't like to waste my vote on a useless third party spoiler. There is still time for my viewpoint to change... at this time, I don't think I will be voting for Hillary Clinton. I would like to say I am voting for Trump but at the moment, I am waiting to see where he's going with his message. I like what I've heard this week but he could completely ass things up before Friday. Today is only Wednesday!

And I will tell you straight up... I AM NO PARTY GUY! I'm just NOT... never have been. I vote on the best candidate, it just happens to be that lately it's a Republican. And it also happens to be, the Republican party has (during my voting life) always been the party to stand for Constitutional principles of individual liberty over government. Republicanism... Federalism. The DNC platform is absolute Marxism... they don't even really attempt to hide it anymore.

thanks for responding. i was a hillary PUMA who opposed nobama on his record of voting present, being hailed as the most maleable credit card bank candidate, and one who would side with the poor while his crony Axelrod worked in the background to undermine in perfect coordination. that is what we got and more. he ran on being a uniter, on stopping the patriot act, capping payday loan interest rates at 37%, and taxing the rich. the rich got richer, the poor are most oppressed with home. auto, and payday loan predators, and surveillance is all encompassing. furthermore, banks were bailed out and his infrastructure stimulus was diverted resulting in (guess what) the need for infrastructure repair which hillary is calling for. moreover, the clean energy projects involving wind, solar, and more all failed within years. additionally nobamacare has left middleclass families like mine paying ridiculous premiums for we dont qualify for subsidies. we pay $14,000.00 a yr in premiums and each has a $6,000 deductible-- not a penny is paid until the $6,000 is paid.

hillary is running on the continunce of such policies with an agenda that includes personal enrichment at the expense of americans. the corruption is beyond comprehension.

so you see why i felt the need to post here. there is nothing conservative in her agenda. if she respected the constitution you so dearly hold, most voters would still respect the presidency, the justice system, and the election process. trumps misguided words dont compare to her huge lack of moral compass. jill stein of the green party explained that eloquently in the town hall meeting tonight.

best of luck sorting it out. trump will give us a police state already started by nobama and forced by lawless haters of law and order. ive accepted that scenario.

Look... I guess people read the title of the thread and don't bother reading the OP.... I keep having to explain to folks... you don't have to convince me of how terrible Hillary Clinton is... that's NOT why I said I might vote for her. It had nothing to do with her or her policies. I realize she is awful.. an un-indicted criminal... corrupt to the core... I've got all that.

The reason I posted this thread was because of the treatment conservative Ted Cruz supporters were getting from the Trump crowd. This arrogant smart-ass besmirching and insulting that started the night Ted Cruz gave his RNC speech and didn't endorse Trump. And if Trump were still up in the polls, it would still be going on. CK can hardly post without a backhanded slap at me for being a Conservative. But everyone should be well aware by now that this election cannot be won without the Conservative vote. Trump supporters need to decide who they want to beat the worst... Hillary or Conservatives... because you can't do both.

the 2016 rnc primary covention was my first. my husband and i watched to immerse ourselves in our new party. prayer throughout the night was comforting and the absence of beyonce type entertainment produced a feeling of family. the speakers were not pelosi and barbara boxer types; they were real americans. and they werent like khan who prepared the clintons taxes and received $350,000 from the clinton foundation. it was pleasant and fun. then ted cruz pulled his crap just to start his next presidential campaign? how do you think i felt?

did you know he left the stage and entered the "donors box" to solicit and was run off with the words, "you are a disgrace!"
did you know he had his donation appeal ready and blasted that email that very night? the next morning he was rallying. i know many supporters who are done with him. even sean hannity says he doesnt trust him and others that broke their word.

the anger and resentment your republican attackers feel for cruz will subside, but honestly i am having a hard time voting for rubio in fl. i dont trust him. he might try to impeach trump.

I'm sorry but I heard the same Ted Cruz speech you heard and I didn't hear anything that could be construed as him campaigning for 2020 or "pulling crap" ..whatever that was supposed to mean. You'll have to explain this to me.

What I saw was a passionate speech about the need for us to unify under our shared republican principles to defeat Hillary Clinton. What Trump ought to have done was to go down on stage with Cruz and embrace him in front of the crowd. Shake his hand, thank him and show party unity. He missed that opportunity and instead, chose to plant his surrogates in the crowd of mostly Trump supporters (other delegates had left) to start the booing and hissing. Then he rolled out the next day with the refreshed tabloid attacks on Cruz's family.

Sean Hannity is a Donald Trump lap dog. So is Laura Ingraham and others. They have all continued this narrative against Ted Cruz and I believe it is going to cost the election and possibly the House and Senate as well. You can't win this election without the support of Ted Cruz conservatives.... the numbers aren't there. So you can keep on hurling all the hate and vitriol you want at the man, but you're killing any chance you have of winning this election in the process.

 

[buckeye45_73]

boss

you are ignoring me, but as you contemplate a vote for your conscience or hillary, the heart and soul of conservativism across farmlands is under attack by nobama. huge grants are being awarded to lesbian farmers in a so called effort to force the area to embrace being different. the reality is they want to dillute that conservative block.

yeah, i warned you about conservative values going extinct. weak and unprincipled republicans like you will make that happen.

i cant believe that i, an ex bernie supporter, knows what is at stake here- that i must remind you. i have chosen my new party and i for one am fighting to keep it intact.

shame on you.

Not ignoring you in particular, I just don't comment if there's nothing to say. You're entitled to your opinion... vote your conscience.

I vote my conscience but my conscience is guided by Conservative principles of constitutional individual liberty and free enterprise. I don't feel either of the top two candidates represent me and I don't like to waste my vote on a useless third party spoiler. There is still time for my viewpoint to change... at this time, I don't think I will be voting for Hillary Clinton. I would like to say I am voting for Trump but at the moment, I am waiting to see where he's going with his message. I like what I've heard this week but he could completely ass things up before Friday. Today is only Wednesday!

And I will tell you straight up... I AM NO PARTY GUY! I'm just NOT... never have been. I vote on the best candidate, it just happens to be that lately it's a Republican. And it also happens to be, the Republican party has (during my voting life) always been the party to stand for Constitutional principles of individual liberty over government. Republicanism... Federalism. The DNC platform is absolute Marxism... they don't even really attempt to hide it anymore.

thanks for responding. i was a hillary PUMA who opposed nobama on his record of voting present, being hailed as the most maleable credit card bank candidate, and one who would side with the poor while his crony Axelrod worked in the background to undermine in perfect coordination. that is what we got and more. he ran on being a uniter, on stopping the patriot act, capping payday loan interest rates at 37%, and taxing the rich. the rich got richer, the poor are most oppressed with home. auto, and payday loan predators, and surveillance is all encompassing. furthermore, banks were bailed out and his infrastructure stimulus was diverted resulting in (guess what) the need for infrastructure repair which hillary is calling for. moreover, the clean energy projects involving wind, solar, and more all failed within years. additionally nobamacare has left middleclass families like mine paying ridiculous premiums for we dont qualify for subsidies. we pay $14,000.00 a yr in premiums and each has a $6,000 deductible-- not a penny is paid until the $6,000 is paid.

hillary is running on the continunce of such policies with an agenda that includes personal enrichment at the expense of americans. the corruption is beyond comprehension.

so you see why i felt the need to post here. there is nothing conservative in her agenda. if she respected the constitution you so dearly hold, most voters would still respect the presidency, the justice system, and the election process. trumps misguided words dont compare to her huge lack of moral compass. jill stein of the green party explained that eloquently in the town hall meeting tonight.

best of luck sorting it out. trump will give us a police state already started by nobama and forced by lawless haters of law and order. ive accepted that scenario.

Look... I guess people read the title of the thread and don't bother reading the OP.... I keep having to explain to folks... you don't have to convince me of how terrible Hillary Clinton is... that's NOT why I said I might vote for her. It had nothing to do with her or her policies. I realize she is awful.. an un-indicted criminal... corrupt to the core... I've got all that.

The reason I posted this thread was because of the treatment conservative Ted Cruz supporters were getting from the Trump crowd. This arrogant smart-ass besmirching and insulting that started the night Ted Cruz gave his RNC speech and didn't endorse Trump. And if Trump were still up in the polls, it would still be going on. CK can hardly post without a backhanded slap at me for being a Conservative. But everyone should be well aware by now that this election cannot be won without the Conservative vote. Trump supporters need to decide who they want to beat the worst... Hillary or Conservatives... because you can't do both.

Well, I hear ya. I'm a Cruz voter, turned Trump supporter. Cruz really should have declined the invitation if he didn't want to endorse. Having said that, people can have their own minds, we're not democrats that take away your ethnicity based on who you vote for.