I might vote for Hillary Clinton now!

[Boss]

This is about the continued butthurt of their candidates losing and Trumps failure to apologize for saying mean things.

They are more concerned with their guy losing and continuing to pout about the loss.

It reeks of little babies stomping their feet because daddy won't give them ice cream.

Let's just say for the sake of argument you are absolutely right here? (you're not, but let's say you are)

Wouldn't it make more sense, if you really WANT to win this election and see Hillary defeated... to break out the butthurt salve and ice cream and see if you can make things better for those folks? I mean, whatever it takes, right? So what if you have to show a little magnanimity and be polite? Is that going to kill you or something? Why not TRY being understanding, showing a little empathy, being a tactful and respectful? Is it more important that you be a total and complete asshole than do what you can to win the election?

That's the part I don't get about this narrative... If it's "ass kissing" pucker the fuck up or lose to Hillary! If it's "butthurt" break out the butthurt cream and apply it generously or lose to Hillary! I mean... you've completely sold out your principles to continue supporting Trump, so why is this so hard for you? Do what you HAVE to do in order to get those votes on your side... OR... Lose to Hillary!

 

[cereal_killer]

explain how Cruz or any of the others Trump laid waste to would stand any chance against Hillary? That's like saying the last place finisher in the NFL would become the Superbowl Champs. Common sense says Cruz or Kasich stand no chance against Hillary. Just as Romney and McCain were losers and stood no chance. Republicans consistently field losers and now its time for some one like Trump to show the GOP how to win

Well Cruz or most any of the others would be running a competent campaign focused on winning. They wouldn't be insulting and brow-beating 30% of the GOP and trying to shame and intimidate them into abandoning their principles to support them. They wouldn't be letting themselves get caught constantly in the controversy traps like the Kahn thing and then the 2nd Amendment thing, they would be focusing on the Democratic candidate and how to defeat her instead of being on their heels defending themselves. And then, they wouldn't be completely changing their policy at platform from what they ran on in the primaries in order to garner support from liberals and socialists.

Cruz came in second, he won several states. But he was one of several constitutional conservatives along with Trump who also ran as a constitutional conservative. In fact, early rumors were talking about a possible Trump-Cruz ticket, if you'll recall. The candidates even joked about it at the debates. But Trump launched his tabloid smear campaign on Cruz and wiped him out the same way he took out Carson. The constitutional conservative vote was divided between about 4 major candidates... Cruz, Carson, Paul and... Trump! Yes, he bamboozled core constitutional conservatives into supporting him. But the point is, had all that constitutional conservative vote solidified around Ted Cruz, he would have beaten Trump and he would be crucifying Hillary.

Trump's BIG mistake was to alienate Cruz supporters and constitutionalists. Trump's campaign is now trying to buy campaign funding ads from Glenn Frickin Beck. It's nice to see that Trump finally realized that maybe he does need us and want us.... I wish his supporters could realize that as well. But I don't hold my breath waiting for that to happen... people are invested now... this is the Big Super Bowl... You can't abandon your "Team" like that. You have to stick to the narrative... that ol' lyin' ted and his butthurt tedbots! yah yah yah! That's what well get from you, we expect it.

Lets face the facts Boss the Cruzer's, #nevertrumpers and GOPe will NEVER support Trump. They are more concerned with their guy losing and continuing to pout about the loss. Trumps did some shit to piss off his supporters in order to perhaps bring you all onboard and its still not good enough.

This isn't about Trump not being conservative enough, or him not staying on message or giving any weight to the medias manufactured controversies aka lies. This is about the continued butthurt of their candidates losing and Trumps failure to apologize for saying mean things.

With the possibility of a Clinton Presidency there's just no excuse to not vote for the GOP nominee. It reeks of little babies stomping their feet because daddy won't give them ice cream. There's just no other explanation. We're talking about Hillary Clinton as POTUS Boss. Does that not move you in any way? Are you happy with the status quo, racial division, more wars, more debt, more corruption, poor trade deals, open borders, TPP, higher taxes, Affordable HealthCare, 2A erosion, ISIS growing, nation building and generally putting America and its peoples last?

Lets face the facts Boss the Cruzer's, #nevertrumpers and GOPe will NEVER support Trump. They are more concerned with their guy losing and continuing to pout about the loss.

If that is true, you can't win. I know that the pouting part isn't true. There are some who aren't going to support Trump, he has very high negatives. But out of all the people in the world who may have been winnable for Trump, it was the constitutional conservative Ted Cruz voter.

Trumps did some shit to piss off his supporters in order to perhaps bring you all onboard and its still not good enough.

Besides picking Pence as his VP, what has he done?

You don't bring people onboard by telling them, frankly, you don't need or want their vote... or like it or not, they don't have another choice but to vote for you. Trashing and denigrating the candidate they supported in the primary (and their family) doesn't help either.

It is up to your candidate to make his case for why he deserves our vote. But he is too busy insulting us and chasing Bernie voters. And all you can do is keep parroting this "butthurt" meme.

It reeks of little babies stomping their feet because daddy won't give them ice cream.

This is what I mean... this sort of crap isn't helping you one bit. Maybe it makes you feel better in the moment with your tanking poll numbers, but it's literally self-destructing your own campaign. By far, the easiest votes in the world to get and you just can't help insulting and denigrating them... every chance you get. Well guess what? People DO have a choice! They don't HAVE to vote for Trump!

This isn't about Trump not being conservative enough...

Well, I can't speak for everyone who was a Cruz supporter, but for this one... it IS about that, exactly! I was a die-hard supporter of Cruz from Day One... there was probably no chance I would have ever voted for anyone else in the primary... BUT-- HONESTLY; I did contemplate switching over to Trump at one point because I thought Trump might be better able to coalesce the fractured party. At that time, Trump was sounding very conservative... he was selling the bullshit that he had a change of heart and was no longer a New York liberal. Since then, he has flip-flopped on just about everything he ran on in the primaries. He is now a clear moderate liberal on many issues. That concerns me. Sorry!

It may be okay for you to sell out your principles so a republican can beat Hillary. But for me, if the republican isn't going to be anything different than the establishment fucks who are up there now... what difference does it make?

Tell me exactly what he is proposing that is NOT conservative? What is he proposing that says "Oh he's not conservative enough"

 

[cereal_killer]

This is about the continued butthurt of their candidates losing and Trumps failure to apologize for saying mean things.

They are more concerned with their guy losing and continuing to pout about the loss.

It reeks of little babies stomping their feet because daddy won't give them ice cream.

Let's just say for the sake of argument you are absolutely right here? (you're not, but let's say you are)

Wouldn't it make more sense, if you really WANT to win this election and see Hillary defeated... to break out the butthurt salve and ice cream and see if you can make things better for those folks? I mean, whatever it takes, right? So what if you have to show a little magnanimity and be polite? Is that going to kill you or something? Why not TRY being understanding, showing a little empathy, being a tactful and respectful? Is it more important that you be a total and complete asshole than do what you can to win the election?

That's the part I don't get about this narrative... If it's "ass kissing" pucker the fuck up or lose to Hillary! If it's "butthurt" break out the butthurt cream and apply it generously or lose to Hillary! I mean... you've completely sold out your principles to continue supporting Trump, so why is this so hard for you? Do what you HAVE to do in order to get those votes on your side... OR... Lose to Hillary!

Dude you're making my point. The soul purpose of this election is to beat Clinton and stop the bleeding. Who the fuck is concerned about putting some ass salve on hurt feelings when we are facing a Clinton Presidency?

It was a primary, it was ugly, it was nasty, it was war. That's politics. Get over it, grab your rifle and return to the front lines. I mean Christ, they were just words. You going to let Clinton win over hurt feelings? Whats more important? Ass salve or beating Hillary. The choice is clear if you give a fuck. If you give ZERO fucks, then hell do whatever you feel like. Vote against him, only vote down ballot, don't vote.... whatever

 

[Boss]

Tell me exactly what he is proposing that is NOT conservative? What is he proposing that says "Oh he's not conservative enough"

I don't understand this "not conservative enough" thing... Conservatism is a philosophy... you are either conservative or you're not. Meaning, you either adhere to conservative principles in your thoughts and ideals or you don't. If something isn't a conservative principle it's not "not conservative enough" it's not conservative... period.

Now maybe you mean one of the assorted ideologies which exist under the conservative philosophy.... libertarian... social cons... neocons... paleocon... I'm not big on ideologies, I don't think conservatives win elections with strong ideologues.

But Trump is not a conservative. He is a populist moderate liberal... centrist at best. I've listed my differences with him, I posted a whole thread on this. To summarize:

1. He favors ethanol subsidies (more of them). This is the most wasteful and ineffective corporate welfare program we fund. Predicated on the climate change fraud, it doesn't even work to save fossil fuel... it literally expends more energy to produce than it saves. We would be better off, from an energy standpoint, to simply burn the money. And if he can't cut out THIS waste, what the hell is he going to be able to cut?

2. He has caved on his own tax plan. Praised by conservatives when he first rolled it out, he has now revamped it into something that is a total joke. It takes away the top marginal tax cuts and adds a new bracket for people who haven't paid taxes. Who the hell is going to vote for that? It's bad enough he is parroting the liberal meme of "tax the rich" (we don't tax wealth in America) but he is also proposing we tax the poor!

3. Raising the MW to $10/hr. During the debates he said he would not favor raising the MW because it kills jobs.. Bravo Trump! Right? But now, he says... We have to raise the MW to $10/hr. because "we have to help people!"

4. Repeal and Replace Obamacare. Again, sounds great to a conservative until you hear him out.. he wants single payer universal care... something so radical even Nancy Pelosi and the Democrats couldn't muster the votes to ram through.

5. Paid Maternity Leave. Conservatives and Republicans have been fighting liberals over this one for about 35 years now. It will devastate small businesses. We cannot afford to have businesses pay women to sit at home having babies. Not only that, it will dramatically affect women seeking employment because employers will simply not want to take the chance on having to go through this.

Those are just off the top of my head. All issues which are VERY concerning to conservatives. Now, maybe you're NOT a conservative? I can't answer that.. I only know what I am. These are things that don't reflect my conservative principles and I can't just toss them aside as if the don't mean anything.

 

[Boss]

This is about the continued butthurt of their candidates losing and Trumps failure to apologize for saying mean things.

They are more concerned with their guy losing and continuing to pout about the loss.

It reeks of little babies stomping their feet because daddy won't give them ice cream.

Let's just say for the sake of argument you are absolutely right here? (you're not, but let's say you are)

Wouldn't it make more sense, if you really WANT to win this election and see Hillary defeated... to break out the butthurt salve and ice cream and see if you can make things better for those folks? I mean, whatever it takes, right? So what if you have to show a little magnanimity and be polite? Is that going to kill you or something? Why not TRY being understanding, showing a little empathy, being a tactful and respectful? Is it more important that you be a total and complete asshole than do what you can to win the election?

That's the part I don't get about this narrative... If it's "ass kissing" pucker the fuck up or lose to Hillary! If it's "butthurt" break out the butthurt cream and apply it generously or lose to Hillary! I mean... you've completely sold out your principles to continue supporting Trump, so why is this so hard for you? Do what you HAVE to do in order to get those votes on your side... OR... Lose to Hillary!

Dude you're making my point. The soul purpose of this election is to beat Clinton and stop the bleeding. Who the fuck is concerned about putting some ass salve on hurt feelings when we are facing a Clinton Presidency?

It was a primary, it was ugly, it was nasty, it was war. That's politics. Get over it, grab your rifle and return to the front lines. I mean Christ, they were just words. You going to let Clinton win over hurt feelings? Whats more important? Ass salve or beating Hillary. The choice is clear if you give a fuck. If you give ZERO fucks, then hell do whatever you feel like. Vote against him, only vote down ballot, don't vote.... whatever

IT'S NOT HURT FEELINGS!!!

I don't know what else to tell you... it's just not. You can keep thinking that's the case but you're wrong. If you had lost in a contested convention to Cruz, maybe that WOULD be the case for you... and maybe that's why you THINK that is the case with me? I don't have a problem with supporting the nominee if the nominee is going to act like he wants my vote. If he is going to morph into Bernie Sanders and continue to brow beat me and insult... forget about it.

And my question was to you... what's more important? If you think it's butthurt or whatever.... what's more important to YOU? Swallowing some pride and doing what you can to relieve the perceived butthurt or lose to Hillary? Because, what you are currently doing is ensuring that Hillary gets elected.

 

[CultureCitizen]

This isn't about Trump not being conservative enough, or him not staying on message or giving any weight to the medias manufactured controversies aka lies. This is about the continued butthurt of their candidates losing and Trumps failure to apologize for saying mean things.

Trump has switched positions many times even in the same speech. He is a compulsive liar, a racist and a misogen, even worse, he can't work in a team.
I can't see why many of Trump supporters are so infatuated with him.

 

[cereal_killer]

This is about the continued butthurt of their candidates losing and Trumps failure to apologize for saying mean things.

They are more concerned with their guy losing and continuing to pout about the loss.

It reeks of little babies stomping their feet because daddy won't give them ice cream.

Let's just say for the sake of argument you are absolutely right here? (you're not, but let's say you are)

Wouldn't it make more sense, if you really WANT to win this election and see Hillary defeated... to break out the butthurt salve and ice cream and see if you can make things better for those folks? I mean, whatever it takes, right? So what if you have to show a little magnanimity and be polite? Is that going to kill you or something? Why not TRY being understanding, showing a little empathy, being a tactful and respectful? Is it more important that you be a total and complete asshole than do what you can to win the election?

That's the part I don't get about this narrative... If it's "ass kissing" pucker the fuck up or lose to Hillary! If it's "butthurt" break out the butthurt cream and apply it generously or lose to Hillary! I mean... you've completely sold out your principles to continue supporting Trump, so why is this so hard for you? Do what you HAVE to do in order to get those votes on your side... OR... Lose to Hillary!

Dude you're making my point. The soul purpose of this election is to beat Clinton and stop the bleeding. Who the fuck is concerned about putting some ass salve on hurt feelings when we are facing a Clinton Presidency?

It was a primary, it was ugly, it was nasty, it was war. That's politics. Get over it, grab your rifle and return to the front lines. I mean Christ, they were just words. You going to let Clinton win over hurt feelings? Whats more important? Ass salve or beating Hillary. The choice is clear if you give a fuck. If you give ZERO fucks, then hell do whatever you feel like. Vote against him, only vote down ballot, don't vote.... whatever

IT'S NOT HURT FEELINGS!!!

I don't know what else to tell you... it's just not. You can keep thinking that's the case but you're wrong. If you had lost in a contested convention to Cruz, maybe that WOULD be the case for you... and maybe that's why you THINK that is the case with me? I don't have a problem with supporting the nominee if the nominee is going to act like he wants my vote. If he is going to morph into Bernie Sanders and continue to brow beat me and insult... forget about it.

And my question was to you... what's more important? If you think it's butthurt or whatever.... what's more important to YOU? Swallowing some pride and doing what you can to relieve the perceived butthurt or lose to Hillary? Because, what you are currently doing is ensuring that Hillary gets elected.

Read >>>> Articles: Let's Assume Trump Is Shrewd and Disciplined, Principled and Patriotic

it's from a Cruz supporter. Read it through, perhaps you will identify with some of the things he says

 

[sealybobo]

Oh, I realize that is going to shock some people and raise some eyebrows. I haven't made up my mind just yet... I might just write-in my vote for Ted Cruz. But after the way Cruz has been treated by the Trump brigade, I am done with you people! I will actively campaign against your candidate and I might even cast my vote for Hillary, just to spite you.

So congratulations... I am a conservative who could have held my nose and voted for Trump to keep Hillary out of the white house... and in less than 24 hours, you have convinced me to NOT vote for YOUR candidate. Not only, not vote for him, but to actively campaign against him.

This was THE moment in the campaign where you could've shown some class and allowed Cruz to have some dignity and respect, but you chose to start the "Lyin' Ted" crap again and re-hash the primary campaign instead of reaching out to unify the party. ALL any of you needed to do was to shut your pie holes for a day... let Cruz have his moment... appreciate his message for what it was, a call to unity... an endorsement of Republican values and support for the platform.... but you just couldn't bring yourselves to do that... you had to go and start trashing the man again.

Well smart asses, you've lost my support! You can do this without me! You don't need MY vote! So go fuck yourselves and win it without me! In fact, win it with ME vocally campaigning AGAINST you! Because that's the way YOU wanted this... not me. I will now turn my attention to the down ballot races and electing principled constitutional conservatives who hold my values and the values of Ted Cruz. As for the presidency... I don't give two shits anymore who wins! If it's Hillary... so be it! I had actually RATHER it be Hillary than for you arrogant assholes to enjoy a victory. I am THAT pissed off! You smugly believe that you've unified the party through your trashing and smearing of a great man....WRONG... you've just cost Donald Trump ANY chance of winning this election.

You aren't alone
More Than 100 Republicans Urge RNC To Drop Donald Trump

 

[Synthaholic]

Odd how all these accusations are flying about Trump, as if they are total fact

You mean like "Crooked Hillary"?

 

[Boss]

Read >>>> Articles: Let's Assume Trump Is Shrewd and Disciplined, Principled and Patriotic

it's from a Cruz supporter. Read it through, perhaps you will identify with some of the things he says

Oh yes... the Repentant Cruz supporter who has now seen the error of his ways... a conservative "purist" ...rejecting the genius that is Trump!

Hey look... the guy makes some good points against those who are completely averse to ever thinking about voting for Trump... that's not me. That's not most Cruz supporters. That may be a few 'butthurt' establishment types like the Bush clan... but that's not US!

A Conservative, contrary to what this guy says, is someone who believes in the founding constitutional principles of individual liberty. That means less of government doing things for you. A true "purist" wouldn't favor the government doing anything for you. I think I speak for most conservatives in saying we want the government to do certain things for us. I'm a conservationist, I like for my rivers and streams to be kept clean of contaminants. I don't want to breathe smog and carcinogens. I want my children and grandkids to be protected from asbestos and lead paint. I think the government does a lot of good things for us. So I don't see myself as a "purist" at all.

I have a Conservative philosophy. My ideology is more independent. I can be very strikingly liberal on a few things. It might surprise you if you got to know me. Everyone is an individual.... so this idea of the "butthurt Cruz bots" is silly and nonsensical. It's no different than what the liberal do every day. Marginalize people... put them in a stereotypical box and attack that meme until it's defeated and crushed!

Well I don't play that game. We're all Americans. We will all survive this election regardless of who wins. Our nation will continue on and politics will continue. We're all still going to have our political voice. I think that it's going to be very SAD for us to face a future where we're saying.... "If only we had......" I'm not a "party" guy... never have been. And the GOP without Conservatism is a dead party, in my opinion.

Congratulations on Trump winning the GOP nomination but it's now his responsibility to win the election. He cannot win without the Conservative vote. Insulting them isn't working out very well. Trying to shame them or call them names... not working. Attempting to marginalize, then stereotype and destroy... not working. So you know... it might be time to open your heart and listen to them? Maybe act like you want their vote?

Then... it might be nice if you could get your candidate to stop saying stupid shit?

 

[Toro]

Hey Boss

Are you still thinking about voting for Hillary?

 

[Boss]

Hey Boss

Are you still thinking about voting for Hillary?

It's down to below 2% possible now.
The only thing saving Trump is that she stinks so bad.

 

[Synthaholic]

Trump isn't the guy to do it. He doesn't have the knowledge or the discipline. And I firmly believe he's a sociopath with Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

I'm fine with an outsider to shake up the system. But it has to be someone who instills confidence from both sides.

You may not hate Hillary, but hatred of her often goes hand in hand with opposing her.

Trump is the PERFECT guy to do it. Why? Because he cares nothing about pandering to Republican's/Democrats. He'll do whats right for this country and all American's. If that means "throwing his party under the bus" to get something done he will do it. That's the kind of President we need. Some one beholden to no one but the American people. You will not find another politician willing to go against his/her own party for the benefit of the country. They are worried about being re-elected and keeping their donors/lobbyists/special interests happy. Trump needs nothing. He can go back to his life in the private sector and be perfectly fine. His life will be even better actually (financially that is). He gains NOTHING by playing by the "rules" of Washington because he already has everything.

The man can't be bought and that scares the shit out the Washington elites and the rich and powerful. They are fucked under a Trump presidency. They stand to lose billions and a shit ton of influence. The neocons will not be able to drag us into pointless wars anymore and we have a good chance of having a better relationship with Russia. No more beating the cold war drums. The gig is up under Trump.

I don't hate anyone synth. Hate is a strong word. I don't know Mrs. Clinton, but she seems like a very nice woman. I like her in that aspect, but she is not fit to run the country at this time.

Yes, this is the Trump fan's line: he can't be bought, he doesn't need anything, yada yada yada.

Let's take a couple of your points:

If he's so rich (he's not), why did he need to give campaign contributions to get special favors? And since he's now saying that Hillary is all about pay to play, and that's illegal, hasn't Trump committed crimes by giving contributions (pay) to get special favors (play)?

Please point to ANYTHING in Trump's career, dating back to the early 1980s, that indicates that he cares about the country, rather than just caring about enriching himself. Because he says so in a political speech? Please.

You say he can go back to private life and actually be better off financially. After everything that has come out (with much more to come, believe me) who in their right mind would ever go into business with him again? This is a guy whose standard business tactic was to order things (tablecloths for his casinos, etc.) with the Trump logo, then refuse delivery unless the small business owner lowered the price. That's unethical, and put more than one small business owner out of business, and created real hardships for others. So why do you now believe he's going to be a champion for small business? Because he says so in a political speech? Please.

He's already suffering financially because of his campaign: bookings at his hotels have plummeted. Because the types of people who can afford $500+ per night on a hotel room are successful, educated people who see through his bullshit, and know better than to believe his promises.

1988..... here's your proof that he cares for the country. Listen to the whole thing.

That was back when he was sane. I'm assuming you can see the difference between that clip and how he talks and behaves today. Most people mature and become more thoughtful at 70 years old than they were at 42 years old. Not Trump. Something you should think about.

See, I was saying things like this last September:

I hope not. I don't want him to be done yet. He has said too many true and important things to have that be forgotten in a few months.

And this:

Well, actually I was talking about the things I agree with him on, and that he's dead right about:

* Saudi Arabia playing us for chumps and not contributing a dime to their own security.

* Saudi Arabia and the other Gulf States not taking a single refugee.

* Big donors like himself owning politicians when they contribute to them, getting them to do what they want.

* Hedge Fund managers not paying their fair share in taxes.

* Strengthening Social Security and Medicare.

Things like that.

He started out fine, with some good ideas - and not conservative ideas, either. Wanting hedge fund managers to pay more taxes is decidedly NOT a conservative idea!

So you think the Oprah video means he cares about the country because he is consistent on a few issues from 1988-2016? Talking about them, anyway - he could have always offered his world class negotiating skills to Bill Clinton or George W. Bush, or even Barack Obama and still kept his day job. But he didn't, did he?

It's funny - nat4900 has the Nostradamus post in that thread:

I hope not. I don't want him to be done yet

Well, I'm with you on that....I wanted for Trump to completely destroy the rest of that dozen bunch of crazies BEFORE imploding....

I still can't get over the difference between sane 42 year old Trump and batshit crazy, Alex Jones spewing 70 year old Trump. Something happened with this guy. I think it's the constant pressure he is under to keep up the facade of a multi-billionaire that's taken a toll on him.

Maybe Hannity should do a week with medical experts on THAT!

Not that you would ever read the Art of the Deal but Trumps campaign is built on his own advice in that book. He's done something unheard of. He vanquished a field of 16 PROFESSIONAL and well funded Politicians, destroyed the GOPe and said things that would have killed any other politicians campaign.

Not necessarily very good politicians, though.

And their sameness in out-conservative-ing each other split their votes between them.

Huckabee & Carson were pulling the Rapture Right votes
Paul the libertarians
Bush/Perry/Fiorina/Graham the Chamber of Commerce/establishment votes
Cruz & Walker the Koch/teabagger votes
Christie/Trump the Wall Street money.

Usually a candidate emerges who can bridge a bunch of those factions. But in the age of massive egos and no downside to running for POTUS, why the hell shouldn't Huckabee or Gingrich launch phony runs? It keeps them in the news, and keeps them in demand for speaking engagements and hawking their sham videos and books. It's a cottage industry.

Plus, these people are boring. Which is ideally what we want in our public officials, but Trump is obviously going to be better at grabbing attention.

But the main reason is the media went softball with him for a year. They didn't call him out. Never confronted him with evidence to his face. They still don't: Trump claims he was always against the war, but you've never seen the interviewer play the Howard Stern remarks to Trump's face. It's never happened. Because the media is soft on Trump. That's starting to change, but that just makes the media look bad - they should have been calling bullshit from Day 1.

Saying George Bush lied to get us into Iraq? that's insane and very true, but what other Republican would have the balls to say that?

First off, he's not a Republican. He just hijacked the Party.

I think a lot of Republicans know that Bush lied, and people died. What I find telling is all the "conservatives" and recent teabaggers, and recent Neo-cons all are so eager to abandon everything they have always espoused and defended since Reagan.

They either never believed the bullshit they were selling, or they just have no integrity.

Love Trump or hate him, he speaks the unapologetic truth and people cannot handle it.

He has said a couple of truths. Let's not get crazy here.

They hate he won't apologize, they hate he can't be bullied and they hate he won't back down to nothing or no one. Add in his millions of loyal supporters and you have a candidate that is feared and hated by the left.

I think that people who refuse to ever apologize for anything have a serious character flaw. It's also a sign of narcissism. His mental instability makes him unfit to be POTUS.

 

[amethyst]

trumps law and order speech tonight

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Hey Boss

Are you still thinking about voting for Hillary?

It's down to below 2% possible now.
The only thing saving Trump is that she stinks so bad.

2%

Lol Wtf are you a Vegas bookie?

Christ

 

[Synthaholic]

explain how Cruz or any of the others Trump laid waste to would stand any chance against Hillary?

I think Chris Christie would have had the best chance. He could have brought the fight, and brought the anger which has glommed onto Trump.

 

[Synthaholic]

explain how Cruz or any of the others Trump laid waste to would stand any chance against Hillary? That's like saying the last place finisher in the NFL would become the Superbowl Champs. Common sense says Cruz or Kasich stand no chance against Hillary. Just as Romney and McCain were losers and stood no chance. Republicans consistently field losers and now its time for some one like Trump to show the GOP how to win

Well Cruz or most any of the others would be running a competent campaign focused on winning. They wouldn't be insulting and brow-beating 30% of the GOP and trying to shame and intimidate them into abandoning their principles to support them. They wouldn't be letting themselves get caught constantly in the controversy traps like the Kahn thing and then the 2nd Amendment thing, they would be focusing on the Democratic candidate and how to defeat her instead of being on their heels defending themselves. And then, they wouldn't be completely changing their policy at platform from what they ran on in the primaries in order to garner support from liberals and socialists.

Cruz came in second, he won several states. But he was one of several constitutional conservatives along with Trump who also ran as a constitutional conservative. In fact, early rumors were talking about a possible Trump-Cruz ticket, if you'll recall. The candidates even joked about it at the debates. But Trump launched his tabloid smear campaign on Cruz and wiped him out the same way he took out Carson. The constitutional conservative vote was divided between about 4 major candidates... Cruz, Carson, Paul and... Trump! Yes, he bamboozled core constitutional conservatives into supporting him. But the point is, had all that constitutional conservative vote solidified around Ted Cruz, he would have beaten Trump and he would be crucifying Hillary.

Trump's BIG mistake was to alienate Cruz supporters and constitutionalists. Trump's campaign is now trying to buy campaign funding ads from Glenn Frickin Beck. It's nice to see that Trump finally realized that maybe he does need us and want us.... I wish his supporters could realize that as well. But I don't hold my breath waiting for that to happen... people are invested now... this is the Big Super Bowl... You can't abandon your "Team" like that. You have to stick to the narrative... that ol' lyin' ted and his butthurt tedbots! yah yah yah! That's what well get from you, we expect it.

Lets face the facts Boss the Cruzer's, #nevertrumpers and GOPe will NEVER support Trump. They are more concerned with their guy losing and continuing to pout about the loss. Trumps did some shit to piss off his supporters in order to perhaps bring you all onboard and its still not good enough.

This isn't about Trump not being conservative enough, or him not staying on message or giving any weight to the medias manufactured controversies aka lies. This is about the continued butthurt of their candidates losing and Trumps failure to apologize for saying mean things.

With the possibility of a Clinton Presidency there's just no excuse to not vote for the GOP nominee. It reeks of little babies stomping their feet because daddy won't give them ice cream. There's just no other explanation. We're talking about Hillary Clinton as POTUS Boss. Does that not move you in any way? Are you happy with the status quo, racial division, more wars, more debt, more corruption, poor trade deals, open borders, TPP, higher taxes, Affordable HealthCare, 2A erosion, ISIS growing, nation building and generally putting America and its peoples last?

Lets face the facts Boss the Cruzer's, #nevertrumpers and GOPe will NEVER support Trump. They are more concerned with their guy losing and continuing to pout about the loss.

If that is true, you can't win. I know that the pouting part isn't true. There are some who aren't going to support Trump, he has very high negatives. But out of all the people in the world who may have been winnable for Trump, it was the constitutional conservative Ted Cruz voter.

Trumps did some shit to piss off his supporters in order to perhaps bring you all onboard and its still not good enough.

Besides picking Pence as his VP, what has he done?

You don't bring people onboard by telling them, frankly, you don't need or want their vote... or like it or not, they don't have another choice but to vote for you. Trashing and denigrating the candidate they supported in the primary (and their family) doesn't help either.

It is up to your candidate to make his case for why he deserves our vote. But he is too busy insulting us and chasing Bernie voters. And all you can do is keep parroting this "butthurt" meme.

It reeks of little babies stomping their feet because daddy won't give them ice cream.

This is what I mean... this sort of crap isn't helping you one bit. Maybe it makes you feel better in the moment with your tanking poll numbers, but it's literally self-destructing your own campaign. By far, the easiest votes in the world to get and you just can't help insulting and denigrating them... every chance you get. Well guess what? People DO have a choice! They don't HAVE to vote for Trump!

This isn't about Trump not being conservative enough...

Well, I can't speak for everyone who was a Cruz supporter, but for this one... it IS about that, exactly! I was a die-hard supporter of Cruz from Day One... there was probably no chance I would have ever voted for anyone else in the primary... BUT-- HONESTLY; I did contemplate switching over to Trump at one point because I thought Trump might be better able to coalesce the fractured party. At that time, Trump was sounding very conservative... he was selling the bullshit that he had a change of heart and was no longer a New York liberal. Since then, he has flip-flopped on just about everything he ran on in the primaries. He is now a clear moderate liberal on many issues. That concerns me. Sorry!

It may be okay for you to sell out your principles so a republican can beat Hillary. But for me, if the republican isn't going to be anything different than the establishment fucks who are up there now... what difference does it make?

Tell me exactly what he is proposing that is NOT conservative? What is he proposing that says "Oh he's not conservative enough"

Twice as much infrastructure spending as Hillary.

Not exactly "small, limited government".

 

[Synthaholic]

Hey Boss

Are you still thinking about voting for Hillary?

I think I'm gonna!

 

[buckeye45_73]

Hey Boss

Are you still thinking about voting for Hillary?

I think I'm gonna!

Wow, that's as shocking as Don Lemon getting fucked in the ass.

 

[Boss]

But the main reason is the media went softball with him for a year. They didn't call him out. Never confronted him with evidence to his face. They still don't: Trump claims he was always against the war, but you've never seen the interviewer play the Howard Stern remarks to Trump's face. It's never happened. Because the media is soft on Trump. That's starting to change, but that just makes the media look bad - they should have been calling bullshit from Day 1.

You stumbled on a really good point here without knowing it. The Media is the PR arm of the Democrat Party. All through the primaries, every time Trump made a statement that would have ended most political careers, we wondered at how he managed to spin it into better poll numbers. It was the power of the media.

First, they would give Trump ample time to explain his comments. Trump is a natural promoter so he could spin anything and do it convincingly. The media gave him the air time and then served to 'reinforce' his spin in their 'editorial' commentary. Well, yes, it was brash, but he's not a politician... and that's what people like, he speaks his mind! They helped him promote the spin and the gullible public bought it while scratching their heads as to how Trump got out of yet another crazy statement.

Well now... they got the candidate they wanted through the nomination. The game changes. He no longer gets the air time to explain his comments and the media is not helping promote his spin. And don't worry... the Howard Stern interview is coming... so is the scathing documentary NBC purchased. It's all going to be unleashed on Trump now because the media is in the tank for Hillary... they have been all along... this whole thing was by design.