I hope she dies

jimnyc

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This is really getting ridiculous. Why should someone be granted special rights in order to harass and/or stalk someone? Just because the man is President doesn't give people the right to camp at his house and try to create problems for him personally.

If she wants to protest it should be confined to public places or rallies.

Better yet, someone should throw a bag over her head like in 'The Ring' and drop her to the bottom of a well.

WACO, Texas - Cindy Sheehan and four other war protesters filed a lawsuit Friday challenging roadside camping and parking bans near
President Bush's Crawford ranch.

Sheehan, who lives in Berkeley, Calif., was in Waco to file the case, which asks that the ordinances not be enforced during protests in August and ultimately be declared void.

The suit, filed in state district court, was filed against McLennan County, the sheriff and county commissioners.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060701/ap_on_re_us/peace_mom_lawsuit
 
jimnyc said:
This is really getting ridiculous. Why should someone be granted special rights in order to harass and/or stalk someone? Just because the man is President doesn't give people the right to camp at his house and try to create problems for him personally.

If she wants to protest it should be confined to public places or rallies.

Better yet, someone should throw a bag over her head like in 'The Ring' and drop her to the bottom of a well.

Seems to me we have vagrancy laws in this state that were ignored last time. I'm waiting for some redneck to just get fed up and drive his 1 ton dually right through the middle of that mob.:tank:
 
jimnyc said:
This is really getting ridiculous. Why should someone be granted special rights in order to harass and/or stalk someone? Just because the man is President doesn't give people the right to camp at his house and try to create problems for him personally.

Your message reminded me of a news article. I remember reading news stories about people waving protest signs directly outside the homes of “abortion doctors”.

In general, do you think that people should be allowed to protest so close to people’s homes?
 
mattskramer said:
Your message reminded me of a news article. I remember reading news stories about people waving protest signs directly outside the homes of “abortion doctors”.

In general, do you think that people should be allowed to protest so close to people’s homes?

No. Protesting a person's actions as a public official should be kept within that context. Protesting outside a person's home is harrasment and invasion of privacy, IMO.
 
Jimnyc, kinda shocked by the title of the thread. Do you really wish her dead? Not only is that morally wrong IMO, it is also tactically wrong.

I won't get into the morality of wishing someone like Mother Sheehan dead - those reasons should be pretty self-evident.

Tactically, as long as Mother Sheehan is alive and being a nuisance, she detracts from the left and adds to the right as far as the moderates are concerned. But if she dies, she won't be able to continue helping expose the idiocy of the left and far-left groups. Dead, she becomes a martyr for their cause. Now if she had any real power, the situation might be different, but she doesn't. So let her rant and rave.

Just my thoughts.....
 
mattskramer said:
Your message reminded me of a news article. I remember reading news stories about people waving protest signs directly outside the homes of “abortion doctors”.

In general, do you think that people should be allowed to protest so close to people’s homes?

No, not at all. And not on the property of their business either. Off premises at authorized locations, depending of course. I'm all for stating your beliefs and having all voices heard, but too many of these people go over the top. It started with simple protesting at abortion clinics and escalated to shootings. If you keep giving people this type of access to the President it wouldn't surprise me if one of these retards attempts to take it to the next level eventually.
 
CockySOB said:
Jimnyc, kinda shocked by the title of the thread. Do you really wish her dead? Not only is that morally wrong IMO, it is also tactically wrong.

I won't get into the morality of wishing someone like Mother Sheehan dead - those reasons should be pretty self-evident.

Tactically, as long as Mother Sheehan is alive and being a nuisance, she detracts from the left and adds to the right as far as the moderates are concerned. But if she dies, she won't be able to continue helping expose the idiocy of the left and far-left groups. Dead, she becomes a martyr for their cause. Now if she had any real power, the situation might be different, but she doesn't. So let her rant and rave.

Just my thoughts.....

Not sure how I really feel about her. I can honestly say I wouldn't miss her but sometimes my feelings 'at the moment' allow me to say things a little harsher than I otherwise would.

I feel bad that she lost her son and have much respect for him as a soldier, and her for supporting her sons decision.

Then she blew it and made not only a mockery of herself, but in my opinion her sons memory as well. Whenever his name will be heard people will think of his nutcase Mom instead of the US soldier. That's sad, and even more so that it was initiated by his own delusional Mom.

So although I do appreciate her making the left loonies look worse, I would rather a US soldier get remembered for his service and dedication, not because of someone more enamored in garnering attention for herself.
 
CockySOB said:
Dead, she becomes a martyr for their cause.

No... dead she's forgotten and nobody has to hear about this slack jawed, mouth breathing, assinine, fucking whack job, lunatic, BITCH anymore.
 
Pale Rider said:
No... dead she's forgotten and nobody has to hear about this slack jawed, mouth breathing, assinine, fucking whack job, lunatic, BITCH anymore.

:laugh:

Would I be wrong for pissing on her grave to assist in her remembrance?
 
jimnyc said:
Not sure how I really feel about her. I can honestly say I wouldn't miss her but sometimes my feelings 'at the moment' allow me to say things a little harsher than I otherwise would.

I feel bad that she lost her son and have much respect for him as a soldier, and her for supporting her sons decision.

Then she blew it and made not only a mockery of herself, but in my opinion her sons memory as well. Whenever his name will be heard people will think of his nutcase Mom instead of the US soldier. That's sad, and even more so that it was initiated by his own delusional Mom.

So although I do appreciate her making the left loonies look worse, I would rather a US soldier get remembered for his service and dedication, not because of someone more enamored in garnering attention for herself.

She's done more than make a mockery of her son's memory, she should be ashamed:

http://www.blackfive.net/main/2005/08/army_specialist.html

Army Specialist Casey Sheehan - Someone You Should (Have) Know(n)
Posted By Blackfive

Casey Sheehan grew up in a devout Catholic home. He served as an altar boy and then as a key member of his church's youth group for years.

When he was old enough, Casey joined the Boy Scouts, becoming the very second Eagle Scout out of his troop.

He enlisted in the Army when he was twenty years old. He decided to be a mechanic. He would undergo Combat Lifesaver training - a class on how to give IVs and treat trauma only second in intense learning to combat medic training. He was also certified to assist with giving communion to soldiers while in the field.

Specialist Sheehan re-enlisted in the Army in 2004 knowing full well that he could be sent into a combat zone.

Casey Sheehan was a Humvee mechanic with the 1st Battalion, 82nd Field Artillery Regiment.

On April 3rd, 2004, forces loyal to Shi'ite cleric Muqtada al'Sadr stormed police stations and government offices in Sadr City (a city of over 2 million). They knew the Americans would come, and they wanted a fight. Muqtada Sadr was working them up into a religious frenzy. And he had his thugs murder anyone who he thought might stand in his way - even other Shi'ite clerics. His forces were known as the Mahdi Army.

American forces quickly surrounded Muqtada al'Sadr's quarters.

On April 4th, 2004, al'Sadr's Mahdi forces blocked roadways and bridges with burning tires, vehicles and trash. Visibility was less than 300 meters anywhere in the city. They began to attack American vehicles on patrol throughout Sadr City - some were protecting Shia worshipers (Holy Arbayeen) while others were escorting city government vehicles.

A battle raged across Sadr City. Insurgents assaulted American troops while looters and mobs formed and stormed through the streets. Word spread quickly across the American FOBs that there was trouble.

Soldiers of the 2nd Battalion, 5th Cavalry Regiment were ambushed with RPGs and pinned down and dying. While fighting off an attack himself, the Commander of the 2/5th, LTC Volesky, called for help. A Quick Reaction Force (QRF) was formed of volunteers - their mission was to go out and rescue the American troops.

Casey Sheehan's Sergeant asked for volunteers. Sheehan had just returned from Mass. After Sheehan volunteered once, the Sergeant asked Sheehan again if he wanted to go on the mission. According to many reports (and according to his own mother), Casey responded, "Where my Chief goes, I go."

The QRF was launched. Not long after entering the Mahdi area, the QRF was channeled onto a dead-end street where the roofs were lined with snipers, RPGs, and even some militia throwing burning tires onto the vehicles. The Mahdi blocked the exit and let loose with everything they had.

Sheehan's vehicle was hit with multiple RPGs and automatic-weapons fire.

Specialist Casey Sheehan and Corporal Forest J. Jostes were killed.


A second QRF was formed - all volunteers - to go rescue the first. Specialist Ahmed Cason was hit in the second QRF - but kept fighting until he bled to death.

Seven men died with Casey Sheehan on Sunday, April 4th, 2004.

They were Spc. Robert R. Arsiaga, Spc. Ahmed Cason, Sgt. Yihjyh L. "Eddie" Chen, Spc. Stephen D. Hiller, Spc. Israel Garza, Cpl. Forest J. Jostes, and Sgt. Michael W. Mitchell.

It was Palm Sunday.

Palm Sunday commemorates the day that Jesus entered Jerusalem. Back then, the palm frond was a symbol of victory - laid beneath the feet of those of the highest honor and triumph. Some believe it was this honor fit for a king that forced Jesus's enemies to act and crucify him.

In recognition of Casey, the Catholic Chapel at Fort Hood, Texas (where Sheehan was stationed) named the Knights of Columbus chapter the "Casey Austin Sheehan Council".

Casey also received the Bronze Star for his Valor that day.

Palm fronds for the most honored.
 

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