I Don't Understand Why Democrats Keep Calling For Free Speech

[Wobbly]

Then why did he have a display of hanging/dead Republicans?

Look more like ICEstapo to me. I'm guessing it's because that's his opinion of what he would like to see happen to them. Could be he is just trolling snowflake MAGAts. Neither are or ever been illegal in America. Your problem is with that damn Constitution and its rights and freedoms, including the right to mock your cult leader and the goose-stepping, anti-American, easily frightened cultists who worship him.

If you disagree, feel free to call the cops, Qaren.

 

[Robert W]

Then why won't they let the press in to talk to people there?

Do you honestly want the press to interview every convict in prison?

But the MSM is extra hostile to Trump to begin with. What press was barred?

 

[struth]

Well, no, Robinson killed Kirk because he was bashing gay people like him.

Where did we say that we had "no problem" with his assassination? Everyone I know has condemned it. You guys are the ones celebrating his death with fireworks.

But back to the point about Jesus. He never existed. But if you read the Fairy Tales of the Gospels, it was pretty clear Pilate didn't want to execute Jesus, but the Jewish Mob wanted him dead. (I can see why you are confused on this point, as the Churches all pretend the bible doesn't say this because they feel sad about the Holocaust and stuff.)

Now, the fairy tale makes more sense in the context of trying to make the Romans look good and the Jews look bad. The reality about Pilate is that he went out of his way to antagonize the Jews at every turn, which is why Tiberius eventually sacked him.

Robinson killed Kirk because he was radicalized by the left and was taught to believe it’s ok to simply silent people you disagree with, with the barrel of a gun.

His homosexuality had nothing to do with it. In fact the, fact you’d suggest that, highlights just how bigoted of a mind you have. His homosexuality didn’t make him embrace the assassination culture that is running through the left these days.

 

[BackAgain]

Of course you have to know that the libs mean by "exonerated".

It means that their paid-by-the-taxpayer lawyers found out their was a slight chance that the defendant was not paying attention when his rights were being read to him when he was picked up, even though he was dead to rights guilty.

So a man like that should be proclaimed "innocent".

In the old school days, they officials moved straight to execution. When Jesus H. Christ was convicted in court of insurrection, they didn't engage in years of appeals , but moved directly to execution.

That's what the expensive part is, not the juice needed to get the electric chair in frying mode, but all of the pointless appeals.

Some appeals may lack factual and legal merit. Many don’t.

Either way, the appeals are far from pointless.

Additionally, I speak for myself primarily, but I don’t give a damn that the legal process needed to execute a convicted murderer is expensive. Honestly, it should be since execution is forever. Within the realm of human capabilities, accuracy ought to be job one on capital cases.

 

[Robert W]

Then why won't they let the press in to talk to people there?

Where?

 

[Robert W]

Some appeals may lack factual and legal merit. Many don’t.

Either way, the appeals are far from pointless.

Additionally, I speak for myself primarily, but I don’t give a damn that the legal process needed to execute a convicted murderer is expensive. Honestly, it should be since execution is forever. Within the realm of human capabilities, accuracy ought to be job one on capital cases.

It costs so much because the system does not want any innocent people executed. So it drags and drags this out. A few convicts do get executed pretty fast. A good case is
Timothy McVey the killer in Oklahoma.

 

[Robert W]

What I would love is to spend the money needed on mental health care in this country.

Name a figure you would love to spend of your money on mental health care for this country,. Then explain why you don't do that now?

How long will you hold the entire Mormon church to blame for what you claim happened to you a long long time back?

 

[Hafar1014]

Your side thinks calling someone a "NAZI" incites violence against them.

Suddenly you think calling someone a "KILLER" has no consequences?

WOW.

Prove the connection
Example 3 trans mass shooters killed children at a 3 Christian schools. Thats political. Kirks Killer politician. All triggered by hate speech from democrats as their targets were conservatives

 

[Robert W]

And if he were prosecuted today, he'd have been found not guilty by reason of mental defect. Guiteau was crazy.

I bet you miss lynchings, too!

Guiteau no longer misses them.

It was just two days shy of the one-year anniversary of Guiteau’s attack on President Garfield. Before his sentence was carried out, Guiteau was permitted to recite a poem he had written entitled “I am Going to the Lordy.” These were his final words.

I am going to the Lordy, I am so glad,
I am going to the Lordy, I am so glad,
I am going to the Lordy,
Glory hallelujah! Glory hallelujah!
I am going to the Lordy.
I love the Lordy with all my soul,
Glory hallelujah!
And that is the reason I am going to the Lord,
Glory hallelujah! Glory hallelujah!
I am going to the Lord.
I saved my party and my land,
Glory hallelujah!
But they have murdered me for it,
And that is the reason I am going to the Lordy,
Glory hallelujah! Glory hallelujah!
I am going to the Lordy!
I wonder what I will do when I get to the Lordy,
I guess that I will weep no more
When I get to the Lordy!
Glory hallelujah!
I wonder what I will see when I get to the Lordy,
I expect to see most glorious things,
Beyond all earthly conception
When I am with the Lordy!
Glory hallelujah! Glory hallelujah!
I am with the Lord.
Upon completion of his recitation, the executioner placed a hood over Guiteau’s face and the noose around his neck. Guiteau continued to hold the poem in his hand; he had arranged with the executioner beforehand to drop the paper when he was ready to die. When he did so, the trapdoor opened and the noose broke Charles Guiteau’s neck. His body was buried in the jail yard, but later disinterred and sent to the facility that eventually became the National Museum of Health and Medicine. His brain and enlarged spleen were preserved.

For most of the country, Guiteau’s death marked an end to the year-long saga of President Garfield’s assassination. For the Garfield family, though, the pain and sadness of the previous year would continue for years and decades to come.

Written by Todd Arrington, Site Manager, James A. Garfield National Historic Site, June 2017 for the Garfield Observer.

 

[JoeB131]

Biden locked up at least 2.8 million aliens.

He did not send them to country clubs.

No, he sent them to a detention center, and they received due process of law. The vast majority of the ones he locked up were caught at the border, this was your ******* complaint the whole time. He didn't pick up legal migrants, he didn't send them off to third world gulags.

This why I utterly despise most right wing "Christians", you guys are just evil, and you wrap yourself in the Bible.

During a TPUSA Faith event on March 21, 2025, Charlie Kirk criticized birth control (around 36:50), stating:

“…birth control really screws up female brains, by the way. Every single one of you needs to make sure that your loved ones are not on birth control. It increases depression, anxiety, and suicidal ideation. Birth control is the number one prescribed medication for young ladies under the age of 25. They will give young ladies birth control for pimples, for acne, to control their moods, and their period. It is awful, it’s terrible, and it creates very angry and bitter young ladies and young women.”

JoeB131, that is called the 4th amendment right to free speech.

First, it's the First Amendment, not the Fourth Amendment.

Secondly, no one is denying his right to say vile, misogynistic garbage like this. Just pointing out it's vile misogynistic garbage.

Third, he's not a doctor, and there is a whole wealth of clinical data on the efficacy of birth control medication.

Do you honestly want the press to interview every convict in prison?

But the MSM is extra hostile to Trump to begin with. What press was barred?

I want transparency. That means they should all be able to get lawyers, they should have the right to state their cases no matter what their immigration status is.

Robinson killed Kirk because h

Shhh... Corky, the Grownups are talking.

It costs so much because the system does not want any innocent people executed. So it drags and drags this out. A few convicts do get executed pretty fast. A good case is
Timothy McVey the killer in Oklahoma.

McVeigh was executed quickly because he didn't appeal anything. Still took about 8 years.

Name a figure you would love to spend of your money on mental health care for this country,. Then explain why you don't do that now?

How long will you hold the entire Mormon church to blame for what you claim happened to you a long long time back?

Um, because I don't have that much money, and I'm ALREADY paying for our inadequate, worst in the world health care, you idiot.

We spend 17% of our GDP on health care. Most of the rest of the world, with single payer, pays 8-10% of GDP, they have universal coverage, higher life expectancies, and lower infant mortality rates.

Guiteau no longer misses them.

It was just two days shy of the one-year anniversary of Guiteau’s attack on President Garfield. Before his sentence was carried out, Guiteau was permitted to recite a poem he had written entitled “I am Going to the Lordy.” These were his final words.

I can always tell when you are losing an argument when you go into some bizarre tangent.

 

[Robert W]

No, he sent them to a detention center, and they received due process of law. The vast majority of the ones he locked up were caught at the border, this was your ******* complaint the whole time. He didn't pick up legal migrants, he didn't send them off to third world gulags.

Oh boy, presenting yourself again as a know it all. My complaint was he was allowing them to come in. And using your taxes to care for them. And using your income to hire them lawyers. And putting them up in hotels. But you enjoyed that. As you admit, you are too broke to put up with that ever. But your hero is no longer in charge.

This why I utterly despise most right wing "Christians", you guys are just evil, and you wrap yourself in the Bible.



First, it's the First Amendment, not the Fourth Amendment.

Secondly, no one is denying his right to say vile, misogynistic garbage like this. Just pointing out it's vile misogynistic garbage.

Third, he's not a doctor, and there is a whole wealth of clinical data on the efficacy of birth control medication.

Charlie Kirk was free to state his beliefs as you do all the time. Nobody shoots you over your hate for the bulk of this nations citizens.

I want transparency. That means they should all be able to get lawyers, they should have the right to state their cases no matter what their immigration status is.
@JoeB131, rarely have I encountered a person so loaded with hate. They did not use lawyers to get in. They should pay for their own lawyers.

Shhh... Corky, the Grownups are talking.



McVeigh was executed quickly because he didn't appeal anything. Still took about 8 years.

Still too long. @JoeB131

Um, because I don't have that much money, and I'm ALREADY paying for our inadequate, worst in the world health care, you idiot.
@JoeB131, tone down your hate.
We spend 17% of our GDP on health care. Most of the rest of the world, with single payer, pays 8-10% of GDP, they have universal coverage, higher life expectancies, and lower infant mortality rates.

JoeB131, does this mean you intend to leave the USA?

I can always tell when you are losing an argument when you go into some bizarre tangent.

Patting yourself on your back so soon? I have not lost at all.

Lets go over you as you present to the forum. You utterly hate Mormons,. No doubt at all that almost 100 percent of Mormons did nothing to you to deserve your hate.
But let's not stop there. You hate Christians. Do you hate Muslims as well? Do you hate Catholics and of course you said yes earlier. Do you despise millions of Americans? Definitely you do. I do not like at all that Democrats are not at all liberal as they lie by saying they are liberal You're not remotely liberal. You still hate Charlie Kirk though he never harmed you at all. I believe you are very happy he was shot to death. I believe you won't deny anything I said here.

 

[JoeB131]

Oh boy, presenting yourself again as a know it all. My complaint was he was allowing them to come in. And using your taxes to care for them. And using your income to hire them lawyers. And putting them up in hotels. But you enjoyed that. As you admit, you are too broke to put up with that ever. But your hero is no longer in charge.

Yes, TRump is making as deep a stain on America's honor as Hitler did for Germany.

The Germans are STILL apologizing for Hitler.

I imagine Americans will spend a lot of time apologizing for Trump.

Charlie Kirk was free to state his beliefs as you do all the time. Nobody shoots you over your hate for the bulk of this nations citizens.

Wow, someone has his magic underpants in a bunch tonite. I don't go out on public forums to mock people's religions. I don't videotape Christians and then deceptively edit it to make you look stupid. This is what Kirk did, on a regular basis.

Lets go over you as you present to the forum. You utterly hate Mormons,. No doubt at all that almost 100 percent of Mormons did nothing to you to deserve your hate.

Actually, you absolutely did. Or some of you did, anyway. But what I really despise about you is that your whole faith was based on a lie started by a guy who wanted to scam less smart people out of money and **** teenage girls.

But let's not stop there. You hate Christians.

No, I just hate phonies who present themselves as Christians. That would be most of the Christian Right.

Do you hate Muslims as well?

They've never done anything bad to me, so um, no. I do think we need to stay out of their part of the planet.

Do you hate Catholics and of course you said yes earlier.

Most of my relatives are practicing Catholics. I'm godfather to two of my nieces. But I see the Church as massively corrupt.

You still hate Charlie Kirk though he never harmed you at all.

I don't hate Kirk, I just think he was a truly awful person. Didn't deserve to be shot. Then again, neither did the preschoolers at Sandy Hook, and Kirk considered that a fair exchange for our "Second Amendment Rights".

I believe you are very happy he was shot to death. I believe you won't deny anything I said here.

I think the problem is, trying to reason with a brainwashed cultist is kind of pointless.

 

[BackAgain]

Yes, TRump is making as deep a stain on America's honor as Hitler did for Germany.

The Germans are STILL apologizing for Hitler.

I imagine Americans will spend a lot of time apologizing for Trump.



Wow, someone has his magic underpants in a bunch tonite. I don't go out on public forums to mock people's religions. I don't videotape Christians and then deceptively edit it to make you look stupid. This is what Kirk did, on a regular basis.



Actually, you absolutely did. Or some of you did, anyway. But what I really despise about you is that your whole faith was based on a lie started by a guy who wanted to scam less smart people out of money and **** teenage girls.



No, I just hate phonies who present themselves as Christians. That would be most of the Christian Right.



They've never done anything bad to me, so um, no. I do think we need to stay out of their part of the planet.



Most of my relatives are practicing Catholics. I'm godfather to two of my nieces. But I see the Church as massively corrupt.




I don't hate Kirk, I just think he was a truly awful person. Didn't deserve to be shot. Then again, neither did the preschoolers at Sandy Hook, and Kirk considered that a fair exchange for our "Second Amendment Rights".



I think the problem is, trying to reason with a brainwashed cultist is kind of pointless.

Your post is fully retarded, baseless and dishonest.

By the way? You are the brainwashed cultist. I suppose that’s why you dispense with reality.

 

[JoeB131]

Your post is fully retarded, baseless and dishonest.

By the way? You are the brainwashed cultist. I suppose that’s why you dispense with reality.

Um, I see you are once again, adding nothing to a conversation.

 

[BackAgain]

Um, I see you are once again, adding nothing to a conversation.

Neither did you imbecilic post to which I was responding.

At worst, that evens the score, you mental case.

 

[JoeB131]

Neither did you imbecilic post to which I was responding.

At worst, that evens the score, you mental case.

Naw, you barely rise to the level of "Repeating what you heard on Hate Radio" level of debate.

 

[TimFitz]

Do you honestly want the press to interview every convict in prison?

But the MSM is extra hostile to Trump to begin with. What press was barred?

Trying to distort his question into an either/or fallacy discredits you automatically.

 

[Robert W]

I don't hate Kirk, I just think he was a truly awful person. Didn't deserve to be shot. Then again, neither did the preschoolers at Sandy Hook, and Kirk considered that a fair exchange for our "Second Amendment Rights".

Hell you hate me and don't know a thing about who I am. Stop denying you hate kirk after you lied about his words again.

 

[Robert W]

Most of my relatives are practicing Catholics. I'm godfather to two of my nieces. But I see the Church as massively corrupt.

Do you explain to your nieces that you see them as corrupt?

 

[Robert W]

Yes, TRump is making as deep a stain on America's honor as Hitler did for Germany.

The Germans are STILL apologizing for Hitler.

I imagine Americans will spend a lot of time apologizing for Trump.

You are not contributing again JoeB131. Trump has done what as a stain? Stop making crude non proven claims. It does not fly on this forum. Why are you here, to insult religions, the USA and now even Germany?