“I don’t see a blue wave”

[DonGlock26]

The simple equation of absolutes damns them to failure. Nothing ever works as an absolute. If they would but recognize that one principle they could increase their support many fold over the next several months prior to the midterms. However in a most bewildering turn of events they have doubled down on the finger wagging, lecturing and nearly posthumous collection of exotic demands.... With absolutely no room left for any kind of negotiating.

The Democrats sound like a bitter, broke ex-wife who filed for divorce in the first place now that her ex is happy with someone else.

 

[justoffal]

The Democrats sound like a bitter, broke ex-wife who filed for divorce in the first place now that her ex is happy with someone else.

Yeah the idea that they had in the back of their head I think was destroyed by ignoring the fact that the Catholic Church is the predominant Force driver of culture in South America.

 

[JoeB131]

The DOW Is doing well. Government jobs are being cut by the tens of thousands private sector jobs are in creasing, Soon that will switch which is what we need. Biden dug the economy into a deep hole by a massive expansion of government funded by debt. Thats being reversed

Okay, if that's what you need to believe.

Real world, I'm not seeing a lot of hiring going on.

And that's kind of what I do as a side business.

3.0 gdp growth! Booming

After a 0.5 decline? No, not really. It's a blip caused by tariffs, not a trend.

 

[JoeB131]

The Democrats sound like a bitter, broke ex-wife who filed for divorce in the first place now that her ex is happy with someone else.

You people don't sound happy.

You're the ones rat-******* yourselves because you hate "the other".

 

[justoffal]

Okay, if that's what you need to believe.

Real world, I'm not seeing a lot of hiring going on.

And that's kind of what I do as a side business.



After a 0.5 decline? No, not really. It's a blip caused by tariffs, not a trend.

It's the boiling frog analogy..... It would have been much easier to continue to ignore the criminal incursions being perpetrated on the United States with their international trade partners simply by saying the cost to correct it was more than we could bear. It's possible the time has passed for any type of meaningful correction and that the cost will actually be worse than simply allowing it to continue its destructive course. I don't think anybody knows that for sure yet.

 

[TimFitz]

"‘More like a blue trickle’: Dems are hoping for a blue wave that might not happen.


There's little evidence so far that Democrats are going to crash the gates of Washington.



Many Democrats are betting on a blue wave next year to help them regain favor with disenchanted voters and claw back some control in Washington — but several key indicators are turning into warning signs instead.

Recent polling shows Democrats are still struggling to regain their footing with voters who lurched right in 2024, and that’s compounded by growing gaps in fundraising, an increasing number of messy primaries and a congressional map that Republicans are redrawing to make it harder for Democrats to win.

“I don’t see a blue wave,” said Matt Taglia, the senior director of Emerson College polling, a non-partisan group that routinely administers political opinion surveys. “It’s more like a blue trickle.”"

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/08/03/democrats-blue-wave-2026-midterms-00489291

Why would Americans vote for more Bidenomics? Meanwhile, Democrats continue to promote men in girls' locker rooms and open borders. Good luck with that.

Bidenomics delivered. A strong stock market, rising real wages, stable trade policies, low unemployment.

All gone, or fading fast.

 

[TimFitz]

Sorry, Joey...unless you on the left can conjure up another pandemic the economy is going to be roaring by next year. Do I really need to point out that Trump's use of tariffs has worked? He's got better trade deals for the US. He's got large amounts of investment capital flowing into the country. Inflation isn't the problem you hoped it would be. We've got Billions of dollars coming in as payments for the tariffs.

I think Trump will have finalized a peace deal between Russia and Ukraine by then because his lowering of energy prices will have starved Putin's war machine and Vlad will have no choice but to cut a deal.

You really think that going harder left is the answer? People are looking at New York and California and they want nothing to do with progressive policies. They don't work and it's obvious they don't work.

No economic indicators point to a roaring economy next year.

Rump is going to run out of statisticians to fire before then anyway.

He has already tried to substitute figures from the ultra right wing Heritage Foundation for facts.

 

[DonGlock26]

Bidenomics delivered.

It delivered so well....for Republicans in 2024.

 

[TimFitz]

Trump breaking the dems bloc voting of hispanics, changed EVERYTHING.

The trends that were leading to a dem ONE PARTY STATE, are now NOT.

Voter registration trends are compounding that. Republicans are gaining ground among YOUNG VOTERS.


This is a pivot point. If the dems can't reverse this in the mid terms, and barring Trump's policies failing massively,

MAGA will become the new NORMAL for this country.

Actually, that is a racist myth.

 

[JoeB131]

It's the boiling frog analogy..... It would have been much easier to continue to ignore the criminal incursions being perpetrated on the United States with their international trade partners simply by saying the cost to correct it was more than we could bear. It's possible the time has passed for any type of meaningful correction and that the cost will actually be worse than simply allowing it to continue its destructive course. I don't think anybody knows that for sure yet.

You see, that's the problem.

We aren't losing the "Trade War" because the other countries are all meanyheads.

We are losing it because we can't produce good products anyone wants to buy.

From 1917 until 1976, the US posted trade surpluses with most of the world, and we had no problem with free trade. Everyone wanted our products. "Made in the USA" meant something.

Soaking the American consumer for purchasing cheaper foreign products isn't going to solve that underlying problem.

 

[Hafar1014]

Okay, if that's what you need to believe.

Real world, I'm not seeing a lot of hiring going on.

And that's kind of what I do as a side business.



After a 0.5 decline? No, not really. It's a blip caused by tariffs, not a trend.

Investment in manufacturing is increasing. That means real wealth creating jobs. We are going to see more manufacturers from Europe come to America as their energy costs are high and cant meet demand for AI. The global economy is being reset to support America. Thanks to Trump we have low taxes, less regulations, and reliable energy, all makes business more profitable. The jobs are coming but we have to reduce the government first

 

[justoffal]

Bidenomics delivered. A strong stock market, rising real wages, stable trade policies, low unemployment.

All gone, or fading fast.

Wages are on the rise. The stock market has no appreciable loss of strength since the election.
In fact it's beginning to look like a mistake to tie DC politics to Wall Street... So far whatever I thought I knew about the rise and fall of the investment sector has been completely trashed by the past 6 months.

The unemployment numbers have always been skewed by ignoring government sector jobs.
Anyone who receives a 100% compensation paycheck from the government is basically unemployed from an economic standpoint.

 

[JoeB131]

Investment in manufacturing is increasing. That means real wealth creating jobs. We are going to see more manufacturers from Europe come to America as their energy costs are high and cant meet demand for AI. The global economy is being reset to support America. Thanks to Trump we have low taxes, less regulations, and reliable energy, all makes business more profitable. The jobs are coming but we have to reduce the government first

Guy, you have all the credibility of Baghdad Bob.

 

[justoffal]

You see, that's the problem.

We aren't losing the "Trade War" because the other countries are all meanyheads.

We are losing it because we can't produce good products anyone wants to buy.

From 1917 until 1976, the US posted trade surpluses with most of the world, and we had no problem with free trade. Everyone wanted our products. "Made in the USA" meant something.

Soaking the American consumer for purchasing cheaper foreign products isn't going to solve that underlying problem.

It's a pretty simple principle of economic osmosis.
Wealth will always tend to create financial pressure in the opposing direction. Unfortunately the purchase of cheaper foreign goods doesn't necessarily solve the problem either. It's the first step in the importation of third world policy.
Allowing goods on our shelves produced by countries who skirt the requirements of agencies like the EPA and the FDA is what basically enables the financial cheating. But more profoundly wealth osmosis is ever present and is largely ignored by most economic analysts.

 

[Hafar1014]

Guy, you have all the credibility of Baghdad Bob.

Its happening and there isnt a damn thing you can do about it

 

[Marener]

It's the boiling frog analogy..... It would have been much easier to continue to ignore the criminal incursions being perpetrated on the United States with their international trade partners simply by saying the cost to correct it was more than we could bear. It's possible the time has passed for any type of meaningful correction and that the cost will actually be worse than simply allowing it to continue its destructive course. I don't think anybody knows that for sure yet.

If everything is so great, why are Republicans demanding a lowering of interest rates?

It’s because the economy is weakening and they need lower interest rates to prop it up.

 

[Hafar1014]

If everything is so great, why are Republicans demanding a lowering of interest rates?

It’s because the economy is weakening and they need lower interest rates to prop it up.

Its still the Biden economy

 

[struth]

Okay, if that's what you need to believe.

Real world, I'm not seeing a lot of hiring going on.

And that's kind of what I do as a side business.



After a 0.5 decline? No, not really. It's a blip caused by tariffs, not a trend.

The first qtr coming out of the xiden admin we only had a .5 growth, the second qtr with trumps policies in place we got 3.0 growth or 2.5 between qtrs

That’s amazing

 

[Marener]

Its still the Biden economy

No. It’s the effect of Trump’s chaotic trade policies and governing.

Not everything he is doing is bad. He’s made impact on lowering oil prices, but that actually is stunting the growth in domestic energy production. His hands off approach to financial regulation is leading to increased earnings forecasts for that sector, which it’s not like anything bad ever happened because of that.

But for most of the economy, they’re holding back.

 

[Marener]

The first qtr coming out of the xiden admin we only had a .5 growth, the second qtr with trumps policies in place we got 3.0 growth or 2.5 between qtrs

That’s amazing

You can’t just add those numbers. They’re annualized.