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Would you rather Biden won by fraudulently stealing this election, ...
Jehanne1431, would you have rather President Trump had succeeded to incite a riot that successfully overthrew the United State’s constitution and government?
Respectfully, Supposn
The D.C. mob do not respect our democratic republic.
Those of the D.C. mob do not respect our democratic republic. They are outlaws opposed to the concepts of a democracy and/or a republic. ...
 

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Would you rather Biden won by fraudulently stealing this election, or would you rather there were an honest election and Trump won? -------- I am guessing 80 - 90% would say (to themselves) they would rather Biden won by fraud. And if so, what does that say about who they are? Especially for those on the left who profess to be Christian.

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The evidence for massive election fraud is laid out in scores of articles, testimonies and sources, but it is getting no voice or fair hearing by biased judges, or by avowed enemies the media and big tech, as well as being publicly excoriated by slimy democrat leaders, which makes it impossible to have a serious investigation go forward. After all, we are talking about the presidency of the United States not some questionable election for a city council spot.

And given the fact this is the same dishonorable political party and media that have gotten away with murder in Hillary’s brazen destruction of evidence subpoenaed by congress --- and by an IRS scandal where 7 hard drives all mysteriously crashed and no one got convicted under Obama’s watch --- the party where Obama and Hillary lied on TV to the American people that a youtube video made by two guys from California was the cause of the planned attack on Benghazi and then Barack tells the same lie a few days later before the UN body --- the same dishonorable entity that got away with the mysteriously halted investigation of the murder of Seth Rich days before he was going to rat on the DNC and wikileaks.

The same despicable media that actually believes they are “the good guys” who totally buried the Hunter / Joe Biden / China creepy “business” arrangement (a.k.a. buying political influence) and treated it like a nothing burger ---- the same criminal DNC that purchased a fake dossier from a named Russian agent, then a corrupt FBI used it to get five illegal FISA warrants from complicit judges to spy on Trump and his campaign. And what followed was a totally fake Russian collusion investigating holding Trump and the nation hostage for 2+ years. ---- Then after that fell flat and even turned on them, in act of desperation they bring out the big guns Nadler and Schiff who embarrass the nation with a “piece of sh-t” phony impeachment hearing. Always, always bringing up false accusations against Trump to distract the nation from their own sins, scandals and worthless existence.

Given all that --- and so much more --- why are the machinations to steal this election so hard to believe? It falls right in line with all the other crimes and deceptions they’ve committed these last five years. And the globalists, elitists, deep state, et al. have the power and the means to pull this off, especially with an obliging media to cheer them on and a gullible public to gladly buy into it.
LOL More lies from another deluded kisser of the orange ass. Come on, over 60 courts threw out all of Trump's asinine claims. Biden won the election completely legally, and he will be President after noon 20Jan21.
It's not over till the fat lady sings 6O Where did you pull that number from? I bet the fat lady told you that crap. Since I saw the fraud your delusion is just that.
 

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Would you rather Biden won by fraudulently stealing this election, or would you rather there were an honest election and Trump won? -------- I am guessing 80 - 90% would say (to themselves) they would rather Biden won by fraud. And if so, what does that say about who they are? Especially for those on the left who profess to be Christian.

. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =

The evidence for massive election fraud is laid out in scores of articles, testimonies and sources, but it is getting no voice or fair hearing by biased judges, or by avowed enemies the media and big tech, as well as being publicly excoriated by slimy democrat leaders, which makes it impossible to have a serious investigation go forward. After all, we are talking about the presidency of the United States not some questionable election for a city council spot.

And given the fact this is the same dishonorable political party and media that have gotten away with murder in Hillary’s brazen destruction of evidence subpoenaed by congress --- and by an IRS scandal where 7 hard drives all mysteriously crashed and no one got convicted under Obama’s watch --- the party where Obama and Hillary lied on TV to the American people that a youtube video made by two guys from California was the cause of the planned attack on Benghazi and then Barack tells the same lie a few days later before the UN body --- the same dishonorable entity that got away with the mysteriously halted investigation of the murder of Seth Rich days before he was going to rat on the DNC and wikileaks.

The same despicable media that actually believes they are “the good guys” who totally buried the Hunter / Joe Biden / China creepy “business” arrangement (a.k.a. buying political influence) and treated it like a nothing burger ---- the same criminal DNC that purchased a fake dossier from a named Russian agent, then a corrupt FBI used it to get five illegal FISA warrants from complicit judges to spy on Trump and his campaign. And what followed was a totally fake Russian collusion investigating holding Trump and the nation hostage for 2+ years. ---- Then after that fell flat and even turned on them, in act of desperation they bring out the big guns Nadler and Schiff who embarrass the nation with a “piece of sh-t” phony impeachment hearing. Always, always bringing up false accusations against Trump to distract the nation from their own sins, scandals and worthless existence.

Given all that --- and so much more --- why are the machinations to steal this election so hard to believe? It falls right in line with all the other crimes and deceptions they’ve committed these last five years. And the globalists, elitists, deep state, et al. have the power and the means to pull this off, especially with an obliging media to cheer them on and a gullible public to gladly buy into it.
I would rather we have fair and honest elections and Rump be stranded on a quickly melting ice berg in the middle of the North Atlantic. So I go for the 3rd option.
 

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There was no legitimate evidence of widespread fraud produced, it is all just speculation and spin without actual evidence. All hand recounts done in the various states pretty much matched the machine counts, the votes were canvassed as well which is an entire process that has checks and balances in it to ensure fraud has not taken place, and then finally certified by each of those battleground states that their election results, represents the actual will of the people of their state.

Dodges the question. How convenient. How cowardly. How Democrat.

IT DID NOT HAVE to be "widespread." All that was necessary was fraud in a few key high population cities. Clever. Tyrannical. Evil. Malicious. Unpatriotic in the extreme, but then again, what can be expected of the Party of the Ku Klux Klan.
I find it disgusting that tramp picked the major black areas for voter fraud.
 

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YOU find it "underwhelming" because all the Fake News sources tell you that.
I guess the courts do too then. Brilliant reasoning.
Are these "the courts" which:
1. Looked the other way as Jim Crow laws were enforced against black Americans?
2. Enforced Prohibition and then reversed that decision.;
3. Found O.J. Simpson "Not Guilty"?
4. Have convicted hundreds of innocent men and women of murder, rape, and other felonies.
5. Cited the "Umbra of the Penumbra" in legalizing the murder of innocent, unborn human beings, based on the perjured testimony of Norma McCorvey, who claimed she was raped but lied? 90,000,000 innocent, unborn babies have died as a result of "the courts". In YOUR WORD: "Brilliant."

They're never wrong when they uphold your Leftist tenets, are they. After all, socialist universities educate today's attorneys.

"Public education is a socialist monopoly, a real one." - Milton Friedman

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Party of the Ku Klux Klan.
Dude. Learn some History.
Yes the Dixiecrats started the Kkk.
The southern folks carried this torch and brought it to the (R) party. Proud boys and boogaloo boys. Congrats on your support of racist idiots and fuck you for suggestions that this racism is on (D).
"Dude"? You talk like a boy. You think like a boy. You cannot reason, but can only resort to vulgar language, name-calling, and lies.

Now learn something, IF that is possible:

 

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Would you rather Biden won by fraudulently stealing this election, or would you rather there were an honest election and Trump won? -------- I am guessing 80 - 90% would say (to themselves) they would rather Biden won by fraud. And if so, what does that say about who they are? Especially for those on the left who profess to be Christian.

. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =

The evidence for massive election fraud is laid out in scores of articles, testimonies and sources, but it is getting no voice or fair hearing by biased judges, or by avowed enemies the media and big tech, as well as being publicly excoriated by slimy democrat leaders, which makes it impossible to have a serious investigation go forward. After all, we are talking about the presidency of the United States not some questionable election for a city council spot.

And given the fact this is the same dishonorable political party and media that have gotten away with murder in Hillary’s brazen destruction of evidence subpoenaed by congress --- and by an IRS scandal where 7 hard drives all mysteriously crashed and no one got convicted under Obama’s watch --- the party where Obama and Hillary lied on TV to the American people that a youtube video made by two guys from California was the cause of the planned attack on Benghazi and then Barack tells the same lie a few days later before the UN body --- the same dishonorable entity that got away with the mysteriously halted investigation of the murder of Seth Rich days before he was going to rat on the DNC and wikileaks.

The same despicable media that actually believes they are “the good guys” who totally buried the Hunter / Joe Biden / China creepy “business” arrangement (a.k.a. buying political influence) and treated it like a nothing burger ---- the same criminal DNC that purchased a fake dossier from a named Russian agent, then a corrupt FBI used it to get five illegal FISA warrants from complicit judges to spy on Trump and his campaign. And what followed was a totally fake Russian collusion investigating holding Trump and the nation hostage for 2+ years. ---- Then after that fell flat and even turned on them, in act of desperation they bring out the big guns Nadler and Schiff who embarrass the nation with a “piece of sh-t” phony impeachment hearing. Always, always bringing up false accusations against Trump to distract the nation from their own sins, scandals and worthless existence.

Given all that --- and so much more --- why are the machinations to steal this election so hard to believe? It falls right in line with all the other crimes and deceptions they’ve committed these last five years. And the globalists, elitists, deep state, et al. have the power and the means to pull this off, especially with an obliging media to cheer them on and a gullible public to gladly buy into it.
LOL More lies from another deluded kisser of the orange ass. Come on, over 60 courts threw out all of Trump's asinine claims. Biden won the election completely legally, and he will be President after noon 20Jan21.
It's scary how dumb some people are!

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Would you rather Biden won by fraudulently stealing this election, or would you rather there were an honest election and Trump won? -------- I am guessing 80 - 90% would say (to themselves) they would rather Biden won by fraud. And if so, what does that say about who they are? Especially for those on the left who profess to be Christian.

. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =

The evidence for massive election fraud is laid out in scores of articles, testimonies and sources, but it is getting no voice or fair hearing by biased judges, or by avowed enemies the media and big tech, as well as being publicly excoriated by slimy democrat leaders, which makes it impossible to have a serious investigation go forward. After all, we are talking about the presidency of the United States not some questionable election for a city council spot.

And given the fact this is the same dishonorable political party and media that have gotten away with murder in Hillary’s brazen destruction of evidence subpoenaed by congress --- and by an IRS scandal where 7 hard drives all mysteriously crashed and no one got convicted under Obama’s watch --- the party where Obama and Hillary lied on TV to the American people that a youtube video made by two guys from California was the cause of the planned attack on Benghazi and then Barack tells the same lie a few days later before the UN body --- the same dishonorable entity that got away with the mysteriously halted investigation of the murder of Seth Rich days before he was going to rat on the DNC and wikileaks.

The same despicable media that actually believes they are “the good guys” who totally buried the Hunter / Joe Biden / China creepy “business” arrangement (a.k.a. buying political influence) and treated it like a nothing burger ---- the same criminal DNC that purchased a fake dossier from a named Russian agent, then a corrupt FBI used it to get five illegal FISA warrants from complicit judges to spy on Trump and his campaign. And what followed was a totally fake Russian collusion investigating holding Trump and the nation hostage for 2+ years. ---- Then after that fell flat and even turned on them, in act of desperation they bring out the big guns Nadler and Schiff who embarrass the nation with a “piece of sh-t” phony impeachment hearing. Always, always bringing up false accusations against Trump to distract the nation from their own sins, scandals and worthless existence.

Given all that --- and so much more --- why are the machinations to steal this election so hard to believe? It falls right in line with all the other crimes and deceptions they’ve committed these last five years. And the globalists, elitists, deep state, et al. have the power and the means to pull this off, especially with an obliging media to cheer them on and a gullible public to gladly buy into it.
Trump won the 2016 election and the only one who claimed fraud was Trump though he looked but never found any evidence. It appears that it is Trump who cries fraud and fails to provide the evidence.
 

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It’s only fair to expect YOU to answer THIS question:
Would you rather have the election overturned based on false allegations or would you rather Biden won as a result of an honest election?
No, it is NOT "fair." It is profoundly hypocritical because you refuse to admit that you don't mind the fraud as long as your side wins.
Moreover, NOBODY has so much as suggested that Republicans cheated. Only your side. So you're zero for two.

And what does your answer say about you as a holier-than-thou Christian.
First, you are presuming that we would prefer to win by cheating. YOUR words, YOUR presumption, YOUR lie. It's not about any one of us. It's about YOUR lies, YOUR dogma, YOUR evil.

Second, our sinfulness is immaterial. It is not Christians who:
1. Promote and celebrate killing innocent babies. It's you.
2. Don't know which bathroom to use.
3. Think we can change our sex. It's YOU.
4. Promote deadly socialism, and the welfare state. It's you.

You don't say anything worth reading. So my extensive Ignore List just grew by you.

"Go from the presence of a foolish man." - The Holy Bible
 

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It’s only fair to expect YOU to answer THIS question:
Would you rather have the election overturned based on false allegations or would you rather Biden won as a result of an honest election?
No, it is NOT "fair." It is profoundly hypocritical because you refuse to admit that you don't mind the fraud as long as your side wins.
Moreover, NOBODY has so much as suggested that Republicans cheated. Only your side. So you're zero for two.

And what does your answer say about you as a holier-than-thou Christian.
First, you are presuming that we would prefer to win by cheating. YOUR words, YOUR presumption, YOUR lie. It's not about any one of us. It's about YOUR lies, YOUR dogma, YOUR evil.

Second, our sinfulness is immaterial. It is not Christians who:
1. Promote and celebrate killing innocent babies. It's you.
2. Don't know which bathroom to use.
3. Think we can change our sex. It's YOU.
4. Promote deadly socialism, and the welfare state. It's you.

You don't say anything worth reading. So my extensive Ignore List just grew by you.

"Go from the presence of a foolish man." - The Holy Bible
You've been radicalized, to believe a Big Lie....

You are going against our very Constitution and have rationalized violent insurrection, because of the Big Lie.

You are hurting the very core of the nation you claim you love, because of this Big Lie.

Someday, when you find out it was all a planned, the very Big Lie by Trump to radicalize you, against your own Country and Nation, so that he and only he, could have your undying love and support like any powerful cult leader, and the Big Lie that this election was stolen from him, that he first began seeding it in your heads beginning in April of 2020 and full force from late July, before the first vote was even cast ever took place...

And that he created and propagated with the help of his Maga media, Fox hosts, and Twitter and Facebook etc, and his two bit carnival act lawyers that pushed the Big Lie too....that the election was stolen from him,

Will you be sorry, that you participated in the destruction of our nation, due to this Big Lie when you find out you were lead astray, and wrong?
 
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"Liberals destroy everything they touch. Look at education." - Dennis Prager

"Public education is a socialist monopoly, a real one." - The Late Milton Friedman


Our Founding Fathers were Libertarians. They cherished liberty.
Today's Democrats cherish lies, cowardice, dependence, big government, covetousness which is the basis for socialism. They cherish and promote abortion and homosexuality, sins by any definition of the term. Our Founding Fathers would be astounded by today's Leftist Democrats. They would be utterly incredulous.

"We have given you a Republic if you can keep it." - Benjamin Franklin

Democrats do not WANT to keep it. They call the Constitution an old, outdated document which they continue to rewrite, hatefully, abusively, destructively. With malice and evil aforethought.

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"Liberals destroy everything they touch. Look at education." - Dennis Prager

"Public education is a socialist monopoly, a real one." - The Late Milton Friedman


Our Founding Fathers were Libertarians. They cherished liberty.
Today's Democrats cherish lies, cowardice, dependence, big government, covetousness which is the basis for socialism. They cherish and promote abortion and homosexuality, sins by any definition of the term. Our Founding Fathers would be astounded by today's Leftist Democrats. They would be utterly incredulous.

"We have given you a Republic if you can keep it." - Benjamin Franklin

Democrats do not WANT to keep it. They call the Constitution an old, outdated document which they continue to rewrite, hatefully, abusively, destructively. With malice and evil aforethought.

USMB Prestige Award
70% Like to Post ratio has earned you a USMB Prestige Award. Congrats!
If I were to post so many insane posts like you do,my Like to Post Ratio would also be high. You can spend your points for anything in the FruitcakesRUS store now.
 

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Would you rather Biden won by fraudulently stealing this election, or would you rather there were an honest election and Trump won? -------- I am guessing 80 - 90% would say (to themselves) they would rather Biden won by fraud. And if so, what does that say about who they are? Especially for those on the left who profess to be Christian.

. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =

The evidence for massive election fraud is laid out in scores of articles, testimonies and sources, but it is getting no voice or fair hearing by biased judges, or by avowed enemies the media and big tech, as well as being publicly excoriated by slimy democrat leaders, which makes it impossible to have a serious investigation go forward. After all, we are talking about the presidency of the United States not some questionable election for a city council spot.

And given the fact this is the same dishonorable political party and media that have gotten away with murder in Hillary’s brazen destruction of evidence subpoenaed by congress --- and by an IRS scandal where 7 hard drives all mysteriously crashed and no one got convicted under Obama’s watch --- the party where Obama and Hillary lied on TV to the American people that a youtube video made by two guys from California was the cause of the planned attack on Benghazi and then Barack tells the same lie a few days later before the UN body --- the same dishonorable entity that got away with the mysteriously halted investigation of the murder of Seth Rich days before he was going to rat on the DNC and wikileaks.

The same despicable media that actually believes they are “the good guys” who totally buried the Hunter / Joe Biden / China creepy “business” arrangement (a.k.a. buying political influence) and treated it like a nothing burger ---- the same criminal DNC that purchased a fake dossier from a named Russian agent, then a corrupt FBI used it to get five illegal FISA warrants from complicit judges to spy on Trump and his campaign. And what followed was a totally fake Russian collusion investigating holding Trump and the nation hostage for 2+ years. ---- Then after that fell flat and even turned on them, in act of desperation they bring out the big guns Nadler and Schiff who embarrass the nation with a “piece of sh-t” phony impeachment hearing. Always, always bringing up false accusations against Trump to distract the nation from their own sins, scandals and worthless existence.

Given all that --- and so much more --- why are the machinations to steal this election so hard to believe? It falls right in line with all the other crimes and deceptions they’ve committed these last five years. And the globalists, elitists, deep state, et al. have the power and the means to pull this off, especially with an obliging media to cheer them on and a gullible public to gladly buy into it.
You're not asking a question, Son. You're speculation and projecting your morals (or lack of them) onto us.

Let's at least try to be honest, ok?
 

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"Liberals destroy everything they touch. Look at education." - Dennis Prager

"Public education is a socialist monopoly, a real one." - The Late Milton Friedman


Our Founding Fathers were Libertarians. They cherished liberty.
Today's Democrats cherish lies, cowardice, dependence, big government, covetousness which is the basis for socialism. They cherish and promote abortion and homosexuality, sins by any definition of the term. Our Founding Fathers would be astounded by today's Leftist Democrats. They would be utterly incredulous.

"We have given you a Republic if you can keep it." - Benjamin Franklin

Democrats do not WANT to keep it. They call the Constitution an old, outdated document which they continue to rewrite, hatefully, abusively, destructively. With malice and evil aforethought.

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Lol @U for quoting prager!
 

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There was no legitimate evidence of widespread fraud produced, it is all just speculation and spin without actual evidence. All hand recounts done in the various states pretty much matched the machine counts, the votes were canvassed as well which is an entire process that has checks and balances in it to ensure fraud has not taken place, and then finally certified by each of those battleground states that their election results, represents the actual will of the people of their state.

Dodges the question. How convenient. How cowardly. How Democrat.

IT DID NOT HAVE to be "widespread." All that was necessary was fraud in a few key high population cities. Clever. Tyrannical. Evil. Malicious. Unpatriotic in the extreme, but then again, what can be expected of the Party of the Ku Klux Klan.
The question was dishonest from the start, as it posed a fake fantasy scenario against a real history of 2016.

None of that has anything to do with a "party" but the Ku Klux Klan has never had one anyway. Actually the Klan was approximately in the same place as the current "Proud Boys/QAnon" infection, a hundred years ago when it was stirring the shit in politics. Backing or opposing Democrats or Republicans (or no-partys) wherever it suited them to do so. So like the 1920s we have a furtive mysterious group posing as "righteous", running around committing acts of violence and intolerance. Isn't quite clear yet what to make of them but it's becoming clearer as they rampage.

Would you suggest the Republicans are the "party of the Proud Boys"? And if you would, what would that even mean, other than some kind of dumbass Composition Fallacy?
 
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The mind is an amazing thing. The same brain capable of deep analytical thought and reasoning can be hijacked by disinformation and turn the person into a non-thinking minion.
I give you the Milgram Experiment, the Zimbardo Experiment, and the Democrat National Party.

"Public education is a socialist monopoly, a real one." - The Late Milton Friedman

Scores of millions have been brainwashed by Leftists in universities. Scores of millions.
These Democrats are proud of their ignorance, their arrogance, their moral and intellectual superiority they CLAIM but cannot demonstrate because they are devoid of common sense.
Maxine Waters
Nancy Pelosi
Chuck Schumer
AOC
Slow Joe Biden
Kamala The Whore Harris

 

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YOU find it "underwhelming" because all the Fake News sources tell you that.
I guess the courts do too then. Brilliant reasoning.
Are these "the courts" which:
1. Looked the other way as Jim Crow laws were enforced against black Americans?
2. Enforced Prohibition and then reversed that decision.;
3. Found O.J. Simpson "Not Guilty"?
4. Have convicted hundreds of innocent men and women of murder, rape, and other felonies.
5. Cited the "Umbra of the Penumbra" in legalizing the murder of innocent, unborn human beings, based on the perjured testimony of Norma McCorvey, who claimed she was raped but lied? 90,000,000 innocent, unborn babies have died as a result of "the courts". In YOUR WORD: "Brilliant."

They're never wrong when they uphold your Leftist tenets, are they. After all, socialist universities educate today's attorneys.

"Public education is a socialist monopoly, a real one." - Milton Friedman

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You criticize the courts when they rule against you and you would be defending the courts if they ruled in favor of Trump. Well unlike you, I trust our court system regardless of the outcome that I want and I trust our democratic process.

What’s more likely:

A) All of the court rulings are wrong, several of which come from Republican or even Trump-appointed judges.

B) You’re just upset with the outcome of the election. Likely due to being fed click-bait from far right questionable news sources.

I’m good with what I think the answer is. Speaking to you and people like you just further confirms that.

Watching the Georgia Senate election, we again had Trump supporters like you claiming fraud despite there being no evidence. I’m seeing a pattern here. If you win then it’s legitimate. If you lose then it’s because of fraud. I’m at least consistent - I trust the courts regardless of the outcome I want.

Of course we’ll never agree on any of that. So I’ll just wish you the best over the next four years.
 

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