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Ok, for more streamlined communication, let me re-fashion my remarks.
It seems to me that medical care is a big black hole with medical corporations making large profits. One way or another the average taxpayer ends up paying for medical services not covered. Why not be efficient about it. Get the profit motive out of it. It is simple efficiency, the law is passed, let the bean counters make it work.
Thank you for a second opportunity to clarify my opinion on this all important question.
You've learned well from Obama!Have you ever asked your good friend if you can see his tax returns? You might be shocked how much profit he makes!
I just HAVE to know: Do you actually believe this idiotic silliness?
Hey, I am no big Obama rah, rah. But, I do think he deserves a chance. My family is split politically, but after Bush who could vote Republican.
Oh I see. A President should be able to lie to Congress under oath. How nice.
An out-of-context shot, and not a very good one.
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Ok, for more streamlined communication, let me re-fashion my remarks.
It seems to me that medical care is a big black hole with medical corporations making large profits. One way or another the average taxpayer ends up paying for medical services not covered. Why not be efficient about it. Get the profit motive out of it. It is simple efficiency, the law is passed, let the bean counters make it work.
Thank you for a second opportunity to clarify my opinion on this all important question.
You've learned well from Obama!Do you or do you not believe a President is above the law? It's a easy yes or no type deal that even your toweringly limited intellect should be able to understand.Oh I see. A President should be able to lie to Congress under oath. How nice.
I am glad you pointed this out. All the major newscasters have books or opinions on this subject, the bottom line is the quality of reporting to an adult audience while a younger audience is watching - in color - every night - with pictures of that stupid dress!
We can go into the ridiculous circumstances of the cum on the dress, or we can review the misuse of impeachment proceedings for political purposes, or we can consider that leaders like President Reagan or President Johnson would have just taken all parties out to the wood shed and slapped them silly.
And I note in passing, you failed to address this:
http://www.usmessageboard.com/2212259-post38.html
Ignore all these crazy people responding to your hello. I'm the only sane person here.
I live in a nest...... on the side of a building...... lots of fresh air......
You are a mysterious primate, I mean pirate!
How do you reconcile these? You sound very confused.I believe in getting a buck's worth of bang for every buck spent.... ~ healthcare for all for free.... ~(There ain't no free lunch)
It seems to me that medical care is a big black hole with medical corporations making large profits. One way or another the average taxpayer ends up paying for medical services not covered. Why not be efficient about it. Get the profit motive out of it. It is simple efficiency, the law is passed, let the bean counters make it work.
That is wise. You are quite much behind in that category...and we don't have to claim intelligence...it shows by itself.....No wonder you're so clueless. You seem to lack basic intelligence and skills needed to do even the most simple tasks. Like reading and comprehending.
I do apologize if I have misunderstood what you are saying in your post. I do not claim to be an intellectual like the rest of you.
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You may be average for your area, but definitely not in general.I am just an everyday guy with average skills trying to get by,
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If that's really you, your looks are mediocre at best...a pencil neck geek...likely with small balls and a squeaky voice.... and I am good looking enough to have run with a dangerous crowd.
Looks have little to do with being dangerous.
Except for some debate experience in school, I have not been all that political. I vote, I like to think I am a good citizen, and I am an independent voter. I have been called a fiscal conservative because I believe in getting a buck's worth of bang for every buck spent. I have been called a socialist because I supported healthcare for all for free. I do not like political labels, but I think 'independent' or 'citizen' is best for me.
I believe in giving the less fortunate a helping hand when needed, but I think some people need to be motivated toward hard work, (There ain't no free lunch). By motivated, I mean tough love if necessary.
This will probably offend members of both political parties, but I picked the user name 'Stainmaster' because it seems we 'independents/citizens' end up paying the bill, and cleaning up the mess of every half-baked idea political parties promote. I am angry about the Wall Street bail out, as well as the influence of unchecked organized labor.
This 'free for all' healthcare thing that you support. On what fucking planet is that happening?
Welcome to the forum - try not to be a total idiot - it's embarrassing for intelligent Californians. Thanks.
Sorry you feel that way. Where do we as a nation draw the line between what we write in our founding documents and what we actually do it. This Health care for all goes into the "must win," "make it work," "will America actually do what it promises," catagory. Unfortunate that you do not feel this way, but now it is the law, and I am confident it will develop into a successful program.
What would have happened after the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor if we had said, "Sorry world, we just can't fit World War II into the budget."
Except for some debate experience in school, I have not been all that political. I vote, I like to think I am a good citizen, and I am an independent voter. I have been called a fiscal conservative because I believe in getting a buck's worth of bang for every buck spent. I have been called a socialist because I supported healthcare for all for free. I do not like political labels, but I think 'independent' or 'citizen' is best for me.
I believe in giving the less fortunate a helping hand when needed, but I think some people need to be motivated toward hard work, (There ain't no free lunch). By motivated, I mean tough love if necessary.
This will probably offend members of both political parties, but I picked the user name 'Stainmaster' because it seems we 'independents/citizens' end up paying the bill, and cleaning up the mess of every half-baked idea political parties promote. I am angry about the Wall Street bail out, as well as the influence of unchecked organized labor.
2 USMB Stainmaster, and the vision of your nick just did my appetite in.So, when the President lies to Congress under oath, he shouldn't be impeached by the Senate.impeachment laws were improperly used
Unfortunately.I lived through this impeachment as a child
Health care for free. So far, the only people that has worked for is the illegal Mexicans. It is one of the biggest reasons California is broke. That and everything else the liberal Californian's can do to support the rift raft that is there because the weather is good and just about everything will be given to you by the State. Generally, I ask all new comers what their blood type is but I'm not so interested in yours... There aren't many Californian's with brains on this board. California Girl and Dude are probably the only two...
What the heck does that mean. Money, among other things, is just pieces of paper with numbers on it. Accountants keep track of the numbers, talley them, and give us a perspective on our business or government. As time has gone on these "bean counters" have had more and more influence about the way things are done.How do you reconcile these? You sound very confused.
It seems to me that medical care is a big black hole with medical corporations making large profits. One way or another the average taxpayer ends up paying for medical services not covered. Why not be efficient about it. Get the profit motive out of it. It is simple efficiency, the law is passed, let the bean counters make it work.[/quote]
Bean counters? You've come up with a nice riff on the old, "I'm hurt! Quick somebody! Call me a lawyer!"
Welcome.
Take a guy like Howard Hughes for example. He didn't put up with accountant crap. He said, "this is what I want to do, make it happen." If they hesitated he fired them and got someone else to make it work. That is what the new Health Care program is for America, Make it work. Simple and to the point. This goes right back to the point I made about Pearl Harbor, what if we had said, "The bombing of Pearl Harbor was bad, but the accountants say we can't afford a war right now we are in a depression."
Now, someone is going to complain about fiscal irresponsibility. And, I am going to suggest running up the debt, go bankrupt, refinance and the United States is open again for business. I will be most interested to hear the kind of excuses out there for not bankrupting and refinancing because as my grandpop says, we owe this money to ourselves. He says the same remarks were made by accountants when Social Security became law. By the way I am not encouraging redistribution of wealth. It is the insecurity of the wealthy protecting their money. Accountants, figure it out, and make health care work. Like it or not it is the law of the land, and this country was founded on compromise. That is the American way in our blessed democracy!
How do you reconcile these? You sound very confused.
It seems to me that medical care is a big black hole with medical corporations making large profits. One way or another the average taxpayer ends up paying for medical services not covered. Why not be efficient about it. Get the profit motive out of it. It is simple efficiency, the law is passed, let the bean counters make it work.
You honestly think the federal government can do it more efficiently and cheaper??!!
You are young.
I mean.
Let me make it clear, I encourage free enterprise. ........
That is wise. You are quite much behind in that category...and we don't have to claim intelligence...it shows by itself.I do apologize if I have misunderstood what you are saying in your post. I do not claim to be an intellectual like the rest of you.
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You may be average for your area, but definitely not in general.
If that's really you, your looks are mediocre at best...a pencil neck geek...likely with small balls and a squeaky voice.... and I am good looking enough to have run with a dangerous crowd.
Looks have little to do with being dangerous.
I like your talk, are you female? Single? Available? Maybe no one has yet discovered the real reason my nickname is "Stainmaster."
OK, I'll bite. I'm very hungry to learn new things.... so, what does it mean?
I'll believe.....
Except for some debate experience in school, I have not been all that political. I vote, I like to think I am a good citizen, and I am an independent voter. I have been called a fiscal conservative because I believe in getting a buck's worth of bang for every buck spent. I have been called a socialist because I supported healthcare for all for free. I do not like political labels, but I think 'independent' or 'citizen' is best for me.
I believe in giving the less fortunate a helping hand when needed, but I think some people need to be motivated toward hard work, (There ain't no free lunch). By motivated, I mean tough love if necessary.
This will probably offend members of both political parties, but I picked the user name 'Stainmaster' because it seems we 'independents/citizens' end up paying the bill, and cleaning up the mess of every half-baked idea political parties promote. I am angry about the Wall Street bail out, as well as the influence of unchecked organized labor.
What is "unchecked" organized labor?
Can you give me an example of it?
