I am of two minds on the coming election.....

[PredFan]

What money laundering scheme? Did you just make that up? The only money laundering scheme that has evidence (that I know of) is at Trump Casinos. He paid a whopper of a fine when he got caught.

That you know of? You need to get out more.

 

[PredFan]

Why bother replying to these trolls?

Bored maybe or feeling like fighting.

 

[PredFan]

I heard on the radio today from a conservative pundit who was attempting to make the point that the democrats screwed up in two ways, one was picking Walz over Shapiro and the other mistake has slipped my mind. I was driving at the time had to wait some time before i could post this.

My point is that I don't believe that the left makes mistakes. I believe that they chose Kamala, did it in a shady way, and picked the wholly unlikeable Walz on purpose. That purpose is outlines in my theory that they are perfectly OK with losing this election. They believe that foreign affairs, our economy, and the wars are all beyond trump's ability to correct and they'd rather everything fell apart on his watch. And, as i stated in my OP, their plan is chaos and violence that will keep Trump and the American people reeling for 4 years. Then they offer their fascist plans of control and oppression that will insure they never lose another election and establish themselves as absolute rulers.

Watch and learn people.

 

[Cassandro]

My point is that I don't believe that the left makes mistakes. I believe that they chose Kamala, did it in a shady way, and picked the wholly unlikeable Walz on purpose. That purpose is outlines in my theory that they are perfectly OK with losing this election. They believe that foreign affairs, our economy, and the wars are all beyond trump's ability to correct and they'd rather everything fell apart on his watch. And, as i stated in my OP, their plan is chaos and violence that will keep Trump and the American people reeling for 4 years. Then they offer their fascist plans of control and oppression that will insure they never lose another election and establish themselves as absolute rulers.

I agree that everything the left (DNC) does is calculated for public consumption. However, they may have been forced into accepting Kamala because of Biden's dementia that could no longer be concealed. They knew that, absent massive fraud, they had little chance of being reelected, so they decided to solidify their Black constituency instead. In addition, they knew that their foreign and domestic policies were becoming disasters that they didn't want to defend. So another Trump presidency would provide them with a convenient whipping boy to absolve them of responsibility.

I think the Walz pick for VP may have been the least worst alternative available to them. What other Democrat of any stature would want to be associated with a laughing hyena?

 

[Vastator]

I am unfamiliar with "Stop the Squeal" but if and when trump wins, all hell will break loose. The Democrats will make Jan 6th look like a kid's birthday party.

Yet... If Trump doesn't go "scorched Earth" on day one..? We'll know for for sure we've all been played...

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

The big $$$ makes in the GOP forced Trump to choose Vance. At the first oppo if Trump wins, they are going to force the cabine to Amendment XXV Trump, and the vote, which is mandatory, in Congress will be supported by the Dems.

Win Win for the regular GOP and the Dems.

 

[PredFan]

I mentioned that I believe that the left has fucked everything up so badly that they are OK with losing this election and letting things fall apart during the Trump administration. Here's an example:

Congress is investigating the Biden/Harris administration for violations of the Hatch Act. They took funds from Medicare to the tune of $230 Billion Dollars to fund EV Tax Credits. Then when it was threating to cause seniors premiums to go up, they took more money from other sources and paid off insurers to delay price hikes until after the election. This violates the Hatch Act. Because of the stolen money, senior's premiums should have already risen by 300-400%, but now they won't until after November's elections.

If Kamala should win, they will simply blame the insurance industry and the media will hide the truth. However, this seems to support my theory that the Democrats aren't really trying to win, hence the installation of Kamala Harris and Tampon Tim.

 

[Captain Caveman]

......and I can't decide for sure which scenario will play out.

On the one hand, the Democrats (and the RINOs) simply cannot allow Trump to win. Too much is at stake; the exposure of their corruption, Epstien's list, reversal of their policies on the border and illegals, losing the chance to pack the SCOTUS, and exposure and end of their money laundering scheme in the Ukraine. They have to cheat again and they are going to have to cheat big. That's not a huge problem since they got away with it before they simply have to squash dissent like they did before. The January 6th kangaroo trials should squash all attempts from Trump supporters to do more than complain. Seems to me like a solid plan. it would allow things to go on as they have been.

It answers the question of why they haven't replaced Joe biden as the nominee. It doesn't matter how senile and incompetent he is. It also prevents Trump from going to not going to jail and having the time to appeal that ridiculous NY court case. they remain in power, trump goes to jail, and they pack the court, eliminate the 2A and much of the 1st A. Win-win for them.

On the other hand, they could do nothing and allow trump to win the election. Then they can foment massive rioting and unrest, the remaining Democrats will obstruct everything, the media will promote unrest and violence to the point where by the time the mid-terms come around, the people will just want it all to stop. The democrats will blame trump and promise to bring everything back to "normal" as soon as we give them power. The rioting won't stop up to the 2028 election and they will tell Americans that they will stop it. it's all trumps fault. The advantage of this will be that they will say "In order for this to stop, yu must give us the White House so we have can put laws into place that will quell the rioting, and that will give them the power to remove most of our Constitutional rights. Another win-win.

It also answers the question of why they haven't gotten rid of Biden on the 2024 ticket. It will not only give them the power to pack the SCOTUS, but the excuses to eliminate much of our constitutional rights. This scenario does allow Trump to avoid prison temporarily but they will end up with much more power at the end of it than from the first scenario. The left is already talking about resistance. Already talking about ways to thwart Trump's plans for his 2nd term. That makes this scenario seem much more likely.

6 more months to find out.

Here's a clue, your personality, do you lean Left or Right, or are you smack centre? Smack centre is dilemma region, otherwise it's fairly straightforward. If you're concerned about your country and pocket, you wouldn't be voting Harris.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Here's a clue, your personality, do you lean Left or Right, or are you smack centre? Smack centre is dilemma region, otherwise it's fairly straightforward. If you're concerned about your country and pocket, you wouldn't be voting Harris.

Whatever their position on the left/right scale, anybody with a shred of common sense is considered right wing these days.

 

[PredFan]

Here's a clue, your personality, do you lean Left or Right, or are you smack centre? Smack centre is dilemma region, otherwise it's fairly straightforward. If you're concerned about your country and pocket, you wouldn't be voting Harris.

I agree with your closing statement, however that wasn't the point of my post. I'm not guessing what I would do, I'm guessing the motives of the DNC. I wrote the OP when they still had Biden at the top of their ticket but it applies to Harris as well. Why are they putting up so bad a candidate? Is it because they plan to cheat again or is it because they are completely fine with losing? As things go right now, I'm leaning toward the latter.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Harris is so much better than Trump as a candidate.

 

[MisterBeale]

MAGA never will shut up. No victory will be good enough for them.

They'll shut up once they are all safely locked away in concentration camps.

 

[MisterBeale]

Don't be silly. The Dems will not pull a MAGA j6 stupidity.

You are absolutely correct.

MAGA is violent. . . while the Dems?

Mostly peaceful.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

They'll shut up once they are all safely locked away in concentration camps.

That's a battle will go the wrong for them beginning next month.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

You are absolutely correct.

MAGA is violent. . . while the Dems?

Mostly peaceful.

Depends. I am not too concerned if MAGA loses. The Dems as a whole will accept the outcome, with some far left goofs being the exception.

 

[Robert W]

Depends. I am not too concerned if MAGA loses. The Dems as a whole will accept the outcome, with some far left goofs being the exception.

We have you on record for saying when Trump wins, you will accept the outcome.

 

[dblack]

I agree with your closing statement, however that wasn't the point of my post. I'm not guessing what I would do, I'm guessing the motives of the DNC. I wrote the OP when they still had Biden at the top of their ticket but it applies to Harris as well. Why are they putting up so bad a candidate? Is it because they plan to cheat again or is it because they are completely fine with losing? As things go right now, I'm leaning toward the latter.

I'm leaning to the latter as well. The MAGA fantasies of "cheating" are just too preposterous. But Dems clearly aren't desperate to win. I think they're trying to score DEI points with their base by nominating Harris, knowing she'll lose. Then, they'll sit back and wait for Trump to make an utter mess of things, to tarnish conservatism irreparably. In four years they'll swoop in to "save" us all with great big gobs of socialism.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

We have you on record for saying when Trump wins, you will accept the outcome.

Of course, why would we not. We have a good, fair system. If we win, and you don't accept it, then we will kick it down your threats. You will have no choice.

 

[Picaro]

I heard on the radio today from a conservative pundit who was attempting to make the point that the democrats screwed up in two ways, one was picking Walz over Shapiro and the other mistake has slipped my mind. I was driving at the time had to wait some time before i could post this.

My point is that I don't believe that the left makes mistakes. I believe that they chose Kamala, did it in a shady way, and picked the wholly unlikeable Walz on purpose. That purpose is outlines in my theory that they are perfectly OK with losing this election. They believe that foreign affairs, our economy, and the wars are all beyond trump's ability to correct and they'd rather everything fell apart on his watch. And, as i stated in my OP, their plan is chaos and violence that will keep Trump and the American people reeling for 4 years. Then they offer their fascist plans of control and oppression that will insure they never lose another election and establish themselves as absolute rulers.

Watch and learn people.

The GOP is pretty much dead as a Party; without Trump they're nothing, and deservedly so, and of course the Democrats are merely a criminal syndicate who will effectively do away with the U.S. and their campaign of Killing ******' will remain their focus, egged on by Wall Street and the global billionaire class.

All the noise from faux libertoons and old fat rent seekers isn't going to result in any real resistance, so basically just enjoy the ride down into banana republic chaos and see what famines and death squads are really about first hand. No need to to watch Hollywood versions and read fiction books when you can experience the real thing first hand.

Coming attractions soon to appear in your town:

https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/un-horrified-least-70-killed-haiti-gang-massacre-2024-10-04/

• Some 6,000 flee Pont-Sonde in western Haiti
• Armed men met no resistance, local says
• Attack in agricultural hub expected to worsen hunger crisis
• No progress on justice for massacres in recent years

No advance tickets necessary; bring your kids!!!

 

[Picaro]

The Democrats are now the more corporate party. Before they issue marching orders, the bosses will calculate how much rioting they can afford.

They don't ever loot and torch the giant banks and corporate HQ's. They write the checks the 'activists' live on.