I am a Democrat. I didn't kill Charlie Kirk.

Are you saying the left should stop painting all non-leftists as racists, fascists, misogynists, homophobes, transphobes, MAGAts, anti-democracy, anti-free speech, stupid, rednecks, uneducated, pedophile supporters and so many other typical insults, or are you asking just the opposition to stop broad brushing leftists as socialists and Marxists? Because, if a leftist doesn't call the entire opposition racists, fascists, misogynists, homophobes, transphobes, MAGAts, anti-democracy, anti-free speech, stupid, rednecks, uneducated, pedophile supporters and so many other typical insults, won't they be kicked out of the club for supporting the opposition?

If you want the right to put down their pitchforks, all I have to say is "you first." The right has the upper hand at this point in the game.


no, he's not saying that.


He wants US to stop talking while the left keeps defining us as they want, and laying the mental framework to justify violence against us.


He is willing, for NOW, to talk some shit about not supporting the violence, when it happens.
 
It was not simply the fact that a Left-wing loon shot Charlie Kirk, it was the broad support the shooter received after the fact in the DNC that was the most unsettling.
From the pro–Donald Trump conservatives in my timeline, however, I detected another sort of response. Although most expressed genuine grief at the tragedy befalling a figure many of them admired or knew, some others seemed preoccupied with proving that “the left” was celebrating the attack.

The challenge, for this cohort, is that Democratic Party leaders were united in condemnation of the attack on Kirk and political violence generally. California Governor Gavin Newsom, a gleeful pugilist who has made a brand out of aping the president’s disordered egomaniacal communication style, wrote, “The attack on Charlie Kirk is disgusting, vile, and reprehensible. In the United States of America, we must reject political violence in EVERY form.” Zohran Mamdani, a New York City mayoral candidate so left-wing that many Democratic leaders refuse to endorse him, wrote, “I’m horrified by the shooting of Charlie Kirk at a college event in Utah. Political violence has no place in our country.”

 
Because while they say they "Condemn" the murder, they are fully supporting the world view and rhetoric that frames such action as LEGITIMATE and even reasonable.


You can't call someone a ******* nazis and then act surprised when someone kills him because he was a nazis.

EVERYTHING, about the way that the left has been operating over the last couple of decades has clearly been laying the mental framework for the left to work itself up to embracing VIOLENCE as a way of taking complete control.


So, some mealy mouthed words after the fact, just don't count for much.
I think what is happening is that the left are losing control of the political narratives and are being exposed for the assholes that they are, and always were.
 
From the pro–Donald Trump conservatives in my timeline, however, I detected another sort of response. Although most expressed genuine grief at the tragedy befalling a figure many of them admired or knew, some others seemed preoccupied with proving that “the left” was celebrating the attack.

The challenge, for this cohort, is that Democratic Party leaders were united in condemnation of the attack on Kirk and political violence generally. California Governor Gavin Newsom, a gleeful pugilist who has made a brand out of aping the president’s disordered egomaniacal communication style, wrote, “The attack on Charlie Kirk is disgusting, vile, and reprehensible. In the United States of America, we must reject political violence in EVERY form.” Zohran Mamdani, a New York City mayoral candidate so left-wing that many Democratic leaders refuse to endorse him, wrote, “I’m horrified by the shooting of Charlie Kirk at a college event in Utah. Political violence has no place in our country.”


But that flies in the face of all the fear mongering that hte mainstream dem party has been doing for years.

If MAGA, of which Kirk was a part of, are the new ******* NAZIS, and America is NOT going to have any more elections, because Trump is the new HITLER,

then in that case, democracy is either already over, or on it's deathbed, adn violence is completely called for.
 
There is no factual support for your belief.
Just as there is no factual support for YOUR belief that it was a "tiny minority".

Impasse.

Except for the fact that the news reports of a couple of weeks ago were overflowing with examples of terminated employees.

Nobody is EVER going to compile factual statistics on that particular event sampling-base...

However, the deluge of news reports, coast-to-coast, spanning industry boundaries, provides a healthy assumptive base. :itsok:
 
I disagree. What I think is fair to criticize trump about is the outsized difference in his reactions to Kirk's and Hortman's murders.

In response to the murder of Hortman, Trump offered a brief, impersonal condemnation of her killing on Truth Social, stating that “such horrific violence will not be tolerated.” He didn’t do much else. He did not offer a substantial eulogy for her, or deliver an address on political violence, as he did after Kirk’s death. Unlike former President Joe Biden, Trump did not attend the funeral. The day after Hortman’s killing, when Trump was asked if he had called Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz, he said, “I could be nice and call, but why waste time?” Trump suggested that part of the reason he didn’t want to call Walz was because he thought Walz was to blame for the killing, or at least the events leading up to it.
Trump did the same as any other politician. Does a Democrat act differently when a member of their own party dies versus a member of the opposition party?
 
I think what is happening is that the left are losing control of the political narratives and are being exposed for the assholes that they are, and always were.

Agreed.

In the past they would control the debate and never get called out on their bullshit.


Now that is falling apart.

That is why they are so driven to avoid engagement or discussion.


Hence retarded shit like CONSTANTLY dismissing us, as "cult" or "devotees".

They NEED to convince people to not listen to us. Because on some level they know that if people give us a listen, that that is the beginning of the end for THEM.
 
no, he's not saying that.


He wants US to stop talking while the left keeps defining us as they want, and laying the mental framework to justify violence against us.


He is willing, for NOW, to talk some shit about not supporting the violence, when it happens.
Can we even trust the left with all they shit they have done since 2016? Now that they are almost defeated, they are showing signs of maybe extending an olive branch. How do we know it isn't just another trap set up by the left? They left said let's go to war, nothing is off the table and it is a fight to the death. OK.
 
Some of you are Republicans, you didn't kill Melissa Hortman.


We need to get away from broad brushing people of each party, holding them responsible for the acts of people they may share some ideological beliefs with but do not endorse their actions.

I supported the BLM protests, not the minority of people involved in the violent riots. You may believe millions and millions of votes were fraudulently cast in 2020 but do not endorse what the J6 mob did.

Demonizing people because of their party affiliation makes it easier to forget we are all Americans with similar backgrounds, similar experiences, and similar desires for ourselves and our families. Something we would do well to remember.

But, but, but, but we keep hearing that Democratic voters killed Charlie Kirk.​

 
Are you really comparing a drug addicted felon to Kirk you dumb ****?
Well yea...

Kirk made money out of making videos that made him look smart by editing...
To a lot of people he was a spiteful person who promoted hatred and misunderstanding of certain communities. And he did this all to make money...

Thing is, Kirk was probably smart enough and self aware enough to realise the pain and division he was causing... He didn't care, he wasn't much Christian, low morals... Definitely wasn't into 'Love thy Neighbour'...
 
Can we even trust the left with all they shit they have done since 2016? Now that they are almost defeated, they are showing signs of maybe extending an olive branch. How do we know it isn't just another trap set up by the left? They left said let's go to war, nothing is off the table and it is a fight to the death. OK.
What did they do again?
 
Well yea...

Kirk made money out of making videos that made him look smart by editing...
To a lot of people he was a spiteful person who promoted hatred and misunderstanding of certain communities. And he did this all to make money...

Thing is, Kirk was probably smart enough and self aware enough to realise the pain and division he was causing... He didn't care, he wasn't much Christian, low morals... Definitely wasn't into 'Love thy Neighbour'...

You mean to SJW twats like you who can't handle opinions you don't like.....so ******* full of yourself.

Him and Floyd were nothing alike, yet you suck Floyd's dead cock.
 
I disagree. What I think is fair to criticize trump about is the outsized difference in his reactions to Kirk's and Hortman's murders.

In response to the murder of Hortman, Trump offered a brief, impersonal condemnation of her killing on Truth Social, stating that “such horrific violence will not be tolerated.” He didn’t do much else. He did not offer a substantial eulogy for her, or deliver an address on political violence, as he did after Kirk’s death. Unlike former President Joe Biden, Trump did not attend the funeral. The day after Hortman’s killing, when Trump was asked if he had called Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz, he said, “I could be nice and call, but why waste time?” Trump suggested that part of the reason he didn’t want to call Walz was because he thought Walz was to blame for the killing, or at least the events leading up to it.
Bizarre that you are trying to equate the relationship between the President and Kirk and this local state representative that no one knew, let alone the President
 
Can we even trust the left with all they shit they have done since 2016? Now that they are almost defeated, they are showing signs of maybe extending an olive branch. How do we know it isn't just another trap set up by the left? They left said let's go to war, nothing is off the table and it is a fight to the death. OK.


Of course we cannot trust them.

We need to keep purging them from all walks of life.


 
Can we even trust the left with all they shit they have done since 2016? Now that they are almost defeated, they are showing signs of maybe extending an olive branch. How do we know it isn't just another trap set up by the left? They left said let's go to war, nothing is off the table and it is a fight to the death. OK.
I’m not sure they’re extending the olive branch, or if anything has actually changed.

Right now, we have a vile, hateful Democrat running for the top legal position (Attorney General) in Virginia who suggested a couple of years ago that not only his opponent should be assassinated, but that his children should be murdered as well.

His fellow Democrats continuing to affirm their support for him.
 
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