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Hurricane Ian could cripple Florida's home insurance industry

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If they don't keep enough in reserve for their claims, they shouldn't be allowed to stay in business. Selling worthless policies is fraud.
Progs have voted trillions and trillions of dollars on bailing out the unions, blue states and special interests. It's all semantics. Southeast Florida has been way overbuilt for many decades and three counties there are solidly Prog.
 

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Actually Ian started as a tropical depression then became a tropical storm, a cat one hurricane, a cat two hurricane, a cat three hurricane and finally a cat four hurricane. All hurricanes climb a ladder of strength.

The members of the Global Warming Religion, scientists hoping for grant money and the liberal press will try to convince you that there are more hurricanes and they are stronger.


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I said Ian started as cat1. Got any actual science data instead of business opinion?
 

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Not as many in the past. The latest numbers have taken a jump to 32 from 24 in shorter time frame -- List of Category 4 Atlantic hurricanes - Wikipedia. Meteorologists are still predicting more cat 4s today. They have established a relationship between SSTs (surface sea temperatures) and hurricanes.
What a joke. There is no significant increase in hurricanes in recent decades. Cherry picking Cat 4 only is ridiculous.
 

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I said Ian started as cat1. Got any actual science data instead of business opinion?
A hurricane does not suddenly pop up as as a cat one. It starts out as a tropical depression and works up from that point. It is named when it becomes a tropical storm. First there was Tropical Storm Ian then Hurricane Ian. Therefore you were wrong when you said Ian started as a cat 1 hurricane.

Here’s the science data you requested.


Off the west coast of Africa, just north of the equator, a thunderstorm forms. It is just a typical towering thunderstorm cloud, but it might grow into something quite different — a hurricane.

Perhaps several other thunderstorms form in the same area. And perhaps all those dark towering thunderstorm clouds begin to rotate around an area of low atmospheric pressure called a tropical depression. Drawing enough energy from the warmth of the tropical ocean water, these circling thunderstorms might grow into a single tropical storm with winds blowing more than 39 miles per hour (63 kph). If it grows even larger and winds swirl faster than 74 miles per hour (119 kph), it is called a hurricane.



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In the Atlantic Ocean, tropical storms that reach a sustained wind speed of 39 miles per hour are given a name, such as "Tropical Storm Fran." If the storm reaches a sustained wind speed of 74 miles per hour, it is called a hurricane - such as "Hurricane Fran." So, hurricanes are not given names, tropical storms are given names, and they retain their name if they develop into a hurricane. The names used for recent and future Atlantic storms are listed in the table on this page.

Notice on this forecast Ian is not yet a hurricane but is named.

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The symbol on the chart changes when the tropical storm becomes a hurricane.

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Source: Here’s how to understand symbols on hurricane weather map
 

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Progs have voted trillions and trillions of dollars on bailing out the unions, blue states and special interests. It's all semantics. Southeast Florida has been way overbuilt for many decades and three counties there are solidly Prog.
More federal tax dollars go to red states.
 

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If they don't keep enough in reserve for their claims, they shouldn't be allowed to stay in business. Selling worthless policies is fraud.
And the executives should be locked up.
 

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A hurricane does not suddenly pop up as as a cat one. It starts out as a tropical depression and works up from that point. It is named when it becomes a tropical storm. First there was Tropical Storm Ian then Hurricane Ian. Therefore you were wrong when you said Ian started as a cat 1 hurricane.

Here’s the science data you requested.


Off the west coast of Africa, just north of the equator, a thunderstorm forms. It is just a typical towering thunderstorm cloud, but it might grow into something quite different — a hurricane.

Perhaps several other thunderstorms form in the same area. And perhaps all those dark towering thunderstorm clouds begin to rotate around an area of low atmospheric pressure called a tropical depression. Drawing enough energy from the warmth of the tropical ocean water, these circling thunderstorms might grow into a single tropical storm with winds blowing more than 39 miles per hour (63 kph). If it grows even larger and winds swirl faster than 74 miles per hour (119 kph), it is called a hurricane.



***snip***

In the Atlantic Ocean, tropical storms that reach a sustained wind speed of 39 miles per hour are given a name, such as "Tropical Storm Fran." If the storm reaches a sustained wind speed of 74 miles per hour, it is called a hurricane - such as "Hurricane Fran." So, hurricanes are not given names, tropical storms are given names, and they retain their name if they develop into a hurricane. The names used for recent and future Atlantic storms are listed in the table on this page.

Notice on this forecast Ian is not yet a hurricane but is named.

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The symbol on the chart changes when the tropical storm becomes a hurricane.

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Source: Here’s how to understand symbols on hurricane weather map
My point was global warming of the oceans is the cause for more extreme weather. Tropical storms don't always become hurricanes, so Hurricane Ian started as cat 1. Anyway, we track tropical storms and less because of this occurrence could happen.
 

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My point was global warming of the oceans is the cause for more extreme weather. Tropical storms don't always become hurricanes, so Hurricane Ian started as cat 1. Anyway, we track tropical storms and less because of this occurrence could happen.
My point was that Hurricane Ian was first Tropical Storm Ian. All hurricanes start as cat 1. Nothing unusual in the least and nothing due to global warming. That is just the way tropical storms and hurricanes are labeled.

Global Warming? Let’s look at some records. You will notice the records are not all in the last decade.







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Hand-wavy claims like that, backed with scientists’ seal of approval, are difficult to dismiss. But what does the United States’ top authority on hurricanes have to say about attempts to blame climate change for Hurricane Ian’s intensity? I did what most of the media failed to do and asked.

“It is difficult to attribute all of the characteristics of individual storms like Ian to climate change,” Tom Knutson, senior scientist at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration’s (NOAA), said.

Knutson has helped author massive scientific reports usually heralded by the liberal media, such as the National Climate Assessment. If there’s one person who understands the data and the science on hurricanes and climate change, it’s him.

“Ian is just one case out of the ‘population’ or one sample of the current statistical characteristics of storms,” Knutson said.

Knutson has helped author massive scientific reports usually heralded by the liberal media, such as the National Climate Assessment. If there’s one person who understands the data and the science on hurricanes and climate change, it’s him.

“Ian is just one case out of the ‘population’ or one sample of the current statistical characteristics of storms,” Knutson said.

Knutson’s smackdown of speculation that “the science” provides a clear link between Hurricane Ian and greenhouse gas emissions isn’t surprising. Knutson is also the author of NOAA’s own scientific assessment — the “scientific consensus,” if you will — on hurricanes and climate change more broadly.

I distinctly remember a time when the liberal media, Democrats and climate activists viciously attacked anyone who questioned the so-called “97% consensus” on global warming. So why does the media ignore NOAA’s top-tier assessment on this matter?


To answer that question, all you need to do is read the assessment’s conclusion: “In summary, it is premature to conclude with high confidence that human-caused increasing greenhouse gases have had a detectable impact on past Atlantic basin hurricane activity, although they are strongly linked to global warming.”…emphasis added

A strong, definitive statement, but apparently one the media can’t or refuses to understand.
 

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My point was that Hurricane Ian was first Tropical Storm Ian. All hurricanes start as cat 1. Nothing unusual in the least and nothing due to global warming. That is just the way tropical storms and hurricanes are labeled.

Global Warming? Let’s look at some records. You will notice the records are not all in the last decade.







***snip***

Hand-wavy claims like that, backed with scientists’ seal of approval, are difficult to dismiss. But what does the United States’ top authority on hurricanes have to say about attempts to blame climate change for Hurricane Ian’s intensity? I did what most of the media failed to do and asked.

“It is difficult to attribute all of the characteristics of individual storms like Ian to climate change,” Tom Knutson, senior scientist at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration’s (NOAA), said.

Knutson has helped author massive scientific reports usually heralded by the liberal media, such as the National Climate Assessment. If there’s one person who understands the data and the science on hurricanes and climate change, it’s him.

“Ian is just one case out of the ‘population’ or one sample of the current statistical characteristics of storms,” Knutson said.

Knutson has helped author massive scientific reports usually heralded by the liberal media, such as the National Climate Assessment. If there’s one person who understands the data and the science on hurricanes and climate change, it’s him.

“Ian is just one case out of the ‘population’ or one sample of the current statistical characteristics of storms,” Knutson said.

Knutson’s smackdown of speculation that “the science” provides a clear link between Hurricane Ian and greenhouse gas emissions isn’t surprising. Knutson is also the author of NOAA’s own scientific assessment — the “scientific consensus,” if you will — on hurricanes and climate change more broadly.

I distinctly remember a time when the liberal media, Democrats and climate activists viciously attacked anyone who questioned the so-called “97% consensus” on global warming. So why does the media ignore NOAA’s top-tier assessment on this matter?


To answer that question, all you need to do is read the assessment’s conclusion: “In summary, it is premature to conclude with high confidence that human-caused increasing greenhouse gases have had a detectable impact on past Atlantic basin hurricane activity, although they are strongly linked to global warming.”…emphasis added

A strong, definitive statement, but apparently one the media can’t or refuses to understand.
Bastach isn't even a scientist. As usual, you and your non-scientists have nothing but opinion while I presented the science.

Here it is from NOAA -- Warming may increase risk of rapidly intensifying hurricanes along U.S. East Coast
 

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Bastach isn't even a scientist. As usual, you and your non-scientists have nothing but opinion while I presented the science.

Here it is from NOAA -- Warming may increase risk of rapidly intensifying hurricanes along U.S. East Coast
You presented propaganda from the Church of Global Religion.

You didn’t even know how hurricanes start and when they are named. A hurricane just does suddenly pop up out of nowhere. They are first tropical depressions, then named when the reach tropical storm level and finally become a hurricane.

Bastach wrote the article but quoted Tom Knutson, senior scientist at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) NOTE: A SENIOR SCIENTIST AT NOAA.


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Hand-wavy claims like that, backed with scientists’ seal of approval, are difficult to dismiss. But what does the United States’ top authority on hurricanes have to say about attempts to blame climate change for Hurricane Ian’s intensity? I did what most of the media failed to do and asked.

“It is difficult to attribute all of the characteristics of individual storms like Ian to climate change,” Tom Knutson, senior scientist at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration’s (NOAA), said.


Knutson has helped author massive scientific reports usually heralded by the liberal media, such as the National Climate Assessment. If there’s one person who understands the data and the science on hurricanes and climate change, it’s him.

“Ian is just one case out of the ‘population’ or one sample of the current statistical characteristics of storms,” Knutson said.

Knutson’s smackdown of speculation that “the science” provides a clear link between Hurricane Ian and greenhouse gas emissions isn’t surprising. Knutson is also the author of NOAA’s own scientific assessment — the “scientific consensus,” if you will — on hurricanes and climate change more broadly.

I distinctly remember a time when the liberal media, Democrats and climate activists viciously attacked anyone who questioned the so-called “97% consensus” on global warming. So why does the media ignore NOAA’s top-tier assessment on this matter?

To answer that question, all you need to do is read the assessment’s conclusion: “In summary, it is premature to conclude with high confidence that human-caused increasing greenhouse gases have had a detectable impact on past Atlantic basin hurricane activity, although they are strongly linked to global warming.”
…emphasis added.
 

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Too late - Ron DeSantis and the Republican Legislature have already crippled our property insurance. This has been an issue for a year.

The Legislature didn't deal with it during the Spring Session - they were too busy going after Gays, Disney, and CRT.

DeSantis didn't get involved to fix it.

DeSantis refused to call them back for a Special Session, which we have almost every fucking year, but not this year. He was too busy campaigning for President in 2024 to take care of urgent state business.

You are more than welcome to fact-check me on any of this. It's been a disaster, everyone told him that it was dangerous to not fix this. And now Floridians are fucked.

If Charlie Crist has any political skills at all he will hammer these points constantly, and DeSantis will lose. He's not as popular here as the wingnuts think he is. Plus, the Cubans are pissed at him for his Martha's Vineyard stunt, and they're pissed at his Lt. Governor for her comments about them and Fidel.
Told ya! Keep laughing like an imbecile, Jarlaxle

 

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More federal tax dollars go to red states.
Sent to blue communities within those states and/or created massive blue communities. We really need detailed reports on where the moolah goes. And where it comes from. Revenue sharing was started to bring socialism to more and more states.
 

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Hurricane Ian could cripple Florida's home insurance industry

“Hurricane Ian could cripple Florida's already-fragile homeowners insurance market. Experts say a major storm like Ian could push some of those insurance companies into insolvency, making it harder for people to collect on claims.”

Six insurance companies in Florida closed their doors permanently so far this year with six more during 2020 and 2021. “Nearly 30 others are on the Florida Office of Insurance Regulation's ‘Watch List’ because of financial instability.”

With climate change only getting worse, future Category 4 and 5 hurricanes will be smashing the Florida trumpublicans’ homes and businesses. And with the insurance companies in that red state going “toes up”, it will test the Florida trumpublicans’ opposition to socialism. The country will see how many of these “staunch conservatives” turn to the government, asking for money Congress must borrow to cover the capitalist insurance companies’ debts. It will provide another demonstration of the trumpublicans’ hypocrisy.






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Small Government Ron suddenly has his hand out to the Feds....how is the push to deregulation going...Ronnie?
 

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There's no doubt that many of the insurance companies will default on payouts to homeowners.
But that's just the American way.

The company goes bankrupt while the principles walk away and get business going again under a new name.

Something for the people of Florida to think about when they go shopping for new insurance!

Insurance companies and banks, total a*******s. Really private insurance sucks.
 

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