Hur Hearing Backfires on Republicans

[Rumpole]

Illegally produced drugs will always be cheaper, and possibly stronger, than drugs produced legally under the watchful eye of government agencies. The cartels are already operating within our borders. So, drug manufacture and use would continue to promote crime and violence. Even legal pot dealers out west are buying cheap, illegal pot from cartel-controlled growers as they can't make a profit under the regulations they must follow.

The Qatari's pronounce it "gutter".

I met someone from Qatar, and she told me it was 'kuh TAR' with the accent on the second syllable. Maybe the first consonant was a g sound, I couldn't tell but the accent was definitely on the second syllable.

 

[Markle]

The president has no right to the documents he stole.

But it was okay for Biden, Pence, and every other president?

 

[OKTexas]

The president has no right to the documents he stole.

The PRA and court precedents say different.

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[Rumpole]

But it was okay for Biden, Pence, and every other president?

DOJ doesn't prosecute for mere possession, Reagan did, too. they only prosecute if there are aggravated circumstances, for which none were existant for Reagan, Biden nor Pence, but definitely for Trump.

 

[Rumpole]

The PRA and court precedents say different.

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The highlighted, below, means that NARA has final word on 'selections' by the president as to which are personel, or that of the government.

Presidential Records Act (PRA) of 1978 | National Archives

www.archives.gov

Specifically, the PRA:

• Establishes public ownership of all Presidential records and defines the term Presidential records.
• Requires that Vice-Presidential records be treated in the same way as Presidential records.
• Places the responsibility for the custody and management of incumbent Presidential records with the President.
• Requires that the President and his staff take all practical steps to file personal records separately from Presidential records.
• Allows the incumbent President to dispose of records that no longer have administrative, historical, informational, or evidentiary value, once the views of the Archivist of the United States on the proposed disposal have been obtained in writing.
• Establishes in law that any incumbent Presidential records (whether textual or electronic) held on courtesy storage by the Archivist remain in the exclusive legal custody of the President and that any request or order for access to such records must be made to the President, not NARA.
• Establishes that Presidential records automatically transfer into the legal custody of the Archivist as soon as the President leaves office.
• Establishes a process by which the President may restrict and the public may obtain access to these records after the President leaves office; specifically, the PRA allows for public access to Presidential records through the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) beginning five years after the end of the Administration, but allows the President to invoke as many as six specific restrictions to public access for up to twelve years.
• Codifies the process by which former and incumbent Presidents conduct reviews for executive privilege prior to public release of records by NARA (which had formerly been governed by Executive order 13489).
• Establishes procedures for Congress, courts, and subsequent Administrations to obtain “special access” to records from NARA that remain closed to the public, following a privilege review period by the former and incumbent Presidents; the procedures governing such special access requests continue to be governed by the relevant provisions of E.O. 13489.
• Establishes preservation requirements for official business conducted using non-official electronic messaging accounts: any individual creating Presidential records must not use non-official electronic messaging accounts unless that individual copies an official account as the message is created or forwards a complete copy of the record to an official messaging account. (A similar provision in the Federal Records Act applies to federal agencies.)
• Prevents an individual who has been convicted of a crime related to the review, retention, removal, or destruction of records from being given access to any original records.

And:

https://www.archives.gov/files/guidance-on-presidential-records-from-the-national-archives-and-records-administration-2020.pdf

The PRA states that the incumbent President must obtain the views in writing of the Archivist before disposing of any Presidential records.

So, for you 5th graders out there, that means that the Archivist (the government, in other words) has the final say.

 

[Markle]

DOJ doesn't prosecute for mere possession, Reagan did, too. they only prosecute if there are aggravated circumstances, for which none were existant for Reagan, Biden nor Pence, but definitely for Trump.

It was illegal for Biden to have them for decades. He stole them. Trump was actively negotiating with the Archives about which ones should be returned.

 

[Rumpole]

It was illegal for Biden to have them for decades. He stole them. Trump was actively negotiating with the Archives about which ones should be returned.

Nope, he was jacking the gov around for about a year, obstructed the government's efforts for them to the returned. We have testimony he ordered his staff to hide the docs from his lawyers, etc. We have video tape confirming this fact. He goes on TV, a number of times, and declares that the PRA gives him the total right to do with them as he pleases, which the PRA most certainly does not. it is these Aggravated circumstances led to an espionage violation and subsequent indictment.

 

[bripat9643]

The president has no right to the documents he stole.

He didn't steal anything. Unlike Biden, he is entitled to everything he took from the Whitehouse.

 

[bripat9643]

Allows the incumbent President to dispose of records that no longer have administrative, historical, informational, or evidentiary value, once the views of the Archivist of the United States on the proposed disposal have been obtained in writing.

Your serious? You think this bureaucrat has authority over the president of the united state? Pleas quote the text that says that..

The PRA states that the incumbent President must obtain the views in writing of the Archivist before disposing of any Presidential records.

So, for you 5th graders out there, that means that the Archivist (the government, in other words) has the final say.

ROFL!

You kill me!