Hunter won't do what Don Jr. and Ivanka did...why?

[beagle9]

You have allowed your imagination to be manipulated by liars.



How quickly you forget!

'I love it': Donald Trump Jr posts emails from Russia offering material on Clinton​

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The end.

Does that prove Russia collusion between Trump and Putin ? Was the material found on Hillary to be evidence based in facts ??? At what point does our countries investigator's (top officials or top cops), have a right to investigate high crimes and misdemeanors, otherwise if there is a strong suspicion of those crimes or misdemeanors being present in evidence of or found being chattered about through back channels or openly and/or just people talking ?????

 

[beagle9]

Name them/ Got a link. I would have to look them up to see what you are ranting about. Any crooked cabinet secretaries, like Trump had? We are well aware of his tax cheat, foreign agents and admitted or convicted liars. I think some are under indictment now. He couldn't or wouldn't even hire honest lawyers. Rudy found the road to doom lying for him.

You all have been busy for year's decriminalizing and normalizing so many things, so you probably have a point about those appointed probably haven't broken current legal law's, but when it comes to moral law's being broken, then that's another story. The hearings revealed a lot about these appointees ideologies, their lifestyles, cultures, and opinion's that in normal circumstances would cause them to epically fail to be nominated due to a number of factors involved, but we aren't living in normal times anymore, so there's that.

As far as Biden their dear leader goes, well he's just a pandering false prophet that is running a game on this country in the worst ways imaginable... He won't be missed when his bull shite run is done.

 

[White 6]

You all have been busy for year's decriminalizing and normalizing so many things, so you probably have a point about those appointed probably haven't broken current legal law's, but when it comes to moral law's being broken, then that's another story. The hearings revealed a lot about these appointees ideologies, their lifestyles, cultures, and opinion's that in normal circumstances would cause them to epically fail to be nominated due to a number of factors involved, but we aren't living in normal times anymore, so there's that.

As far as Biden their dear leader goes, well he's just a pandering false prophet that is running a game on this country in the worst ways imaginable... He won't be missed when his bull shite run is done.

I got to say, while not unhappy with governance except for the border, there does seem to be a lot of sick fks on the government payroll in speak out positions.

 

[beagle9]

I got to say, while not unhappy with governance except for the border, there does seem to be a lot of sick fks on the government payroll in speak out positions.

Worse, they are in or they are going to be in influencing positions like judge's and such.

 

[beagle9]

I got to say, while not unhappy with governance except for the border, there does seem to be a lot of sick fks on the government payroll in speak out positions.

The border is just one of the on going disasters with this administration.

 

[White 6]

The border is just one of the on going disasters with this administration.

I disagree with thinking there were many ongoing disasters, but have no wish to insult your evaluation by giving the old thumbs down. Still, I would like a choice. Here at the beginning of the season. I do not have one, so I will go with Haley, to have a palatable choice, at least in the primaries, hopefully to have a choice at the end.

 

[beagle9]

I disagree with thinking there were many ongoing disasters, but have no wish to insult your evaluation by giving the old thumbs down. Still, I would like a choice. Here at the beginning of the season. I do not have one, so I will go with Haley, to have a palatable choice, at least in the primaries, hopefully to have a choice at the end.

Careful or you'll taint the water, otherwise thin out the vote playing around with different candidates in this way, that you and other's might cause the Republicans to lose out to the Democrat's again. Think about that before you throw your vote away on an unlikely candidate. Now if indicators are showing that the front runner Trump is out, then of course it's wide open then, but it's a wait and see game. Unity is the most important thing for the Republicans, even if they gotta hold their noses in order to defeat the Democrat's at all cost.

 

[JoeB131]

Yeah, and if that shake down is proven to be warranted, then the jokes going to be on you.

There was no excuse to use foreign aid to try to get a foreign leader to smear an opponent.

Now go ahead and critique Biden's hires and attempted appointments. Yeah you do that... You ought to be ashamed of the bull shite you choose to ignore while judging another. How sick are you people ???

Nowhere near as bad as Trump. I've never seen any President have so many appointments who came back and ripped into him after leaving office.

 

[DBA]

It was dimissed at the time as a fringe view, that was the thing. That there MIGHT be a new Ice age over the next few thousand years.

And? One man proved the consensus wrong with regards to Newton's theory of gravity. Do some research on the plate tectonics and you will find another great example. I will also add that science, in recent history, has never been so poisoned by politics and money. This will undoubtedly lead to many more examples where the consensus is proven incorrect.

Actually, we haven't heard a recording of the call, only transcripts, and it sure sounded like a shakedown to me.

If you haven't heard a recording, it doesn't sound like anything at all. Since you are referring to the transcripts, how does "do me a favor" without any "else" appear to be a shakedown. As I mentioned, we do have a video of Biden saying exactly that with regards to Ukraine and even implies that Shokin was fired because of it, but you dismiss it.

Except you haven't proven ANY OF IT. The only thing you've proven is that he was high as a kite when he applied for a gun and he didn't pay all his taxes.

That's it.

Offenses that rarely get prosecuted.

You guys cheered on when Trump tried to OVERTHROW the government, and you are worked up because Hunter said, "Guess who my Daddy is" to impress hookers?

As we have said many times, they don't need a smoking gun. Mountains of evidence that points to Joe and Hunter could be enough to convince any "reasonable" person of their guilt.

What evidence did the Democrats have to impeach Trump the first time? The phone call when he said do me a favor? LOL...yeah, ok, funny that was enough in your mind to warrant an impeachment. What about the second time? Any actual evidence of Trump organizing the group of unarmed protestors that paraded through the Capitol building on Jan 6? Nope, not needed, impeachment it was.

 

[DBA]

There was no excuse to use foreign aid to try to get a foreign leader to smear an opponent.

When did Trump say they weren't getting the money if they didn't investigate the Shokin firing? "Do me a favor" doesn't mean that not does it imply it. Also, Trump didn't say to smear Joe, he said that the firing of Shokin needed to be investigated. Why you ask? Maybe because Joe's son was on the board of the company that benefitted from Shokin's firing. The CEO that hired Hunter for millions to sit on the board, and the company itself, were out from under an investigation in less that 1 year following the firing. Worked out well for Burisma and the CEO, who now is believed to be living in and around Monaco....poor thing. Yeah, that is quite fishy to anyone that NOT a dye in the wool Democrat.

 

[JoeB131]

And? One man proved the consensus wrong with regards to Newton's theory of gravity. Do some research on the plate tectonics and you will find another great example. I will also add that science, in recent history, has never been so poisoned by politics and money. This will undoubtedly lead to many more examples where the consensus is proven incorrect.

If you haven't heard a recording, it doesn't sound like anything at all. Since you are referring to the transcripts, how does "do me a favor" without any "else" appear to be a shakedown. As I mentioned, we do have a video of Biden saying exactly that with regards to Ukraine and even implies that Shokin was fired because of it, but you dismiss it.

Sounds like a shakedown to me. "Nice country you have, Zelensky, it would be a shame if something were to happen to it."

The video of Biden saying, "No money until you get rid of this guy" was in compliance with ALL the agencies that were insisting Shokin had to go before they'd get any more aid. Even Republicans in Congress called for his removal at the time.

As we have said many times, they don't need a smoking gun. Mountains of evidence that points to Joe and Hunter could be enough to convince any "reasonable" person of their guilt.

More like "mountains of shit". Shokin was fired because he was corrupt. Not because he was investigating Bursima.

What evidence did the Democrats have to impeach Trump the first time? The phone call when he said do me a favor?

That and Trump slow-rolled the delivery of weapon systems that Congress had already authorized.

News Analysis: Trump delayed weapons to Ukraine and praised Putin. Did that trigger war?

The former president attempted to extort Zelensky for political favors and made Ukraine a pawn. Putin took note.

www.latimes.com

Trump had already frozen the aid, a $391-million package of military equipment and other assistance that had been approved by Congress with bipartisan support. At least 25 Ukrainians died in fighting in the east in the weeks that followed, according to an investigation at the time by the Los Angeles Times, although a direct link is impossible to prove.

LOL...yeah, ok, funny that was enough in your mind to warrant an impeachment. What about the second time? Any actual evidence of Trump organizing the group of unarmed protestors that paraded through the Capitol building on Jan 6? Nope, not needed, impeachment it was.

Uh, we have all of Trump's twitter posts. All his public speaking where he incited these people. Come on, man, Trump pretending he didn't know what the result of his actions were are as laughable as a guy in a car accident claiming he didn't know how drunk he was.

When did Trump say they weren't getting the money if they didn't investigate the Shokin firing? "Do me a favor" doesn't mean that not does it imply it. Also, Trump didn't say to smear Joe, he said that the firing of Shokin needed to be investigated.

Except if he had done his research, he'd know exactly why Shokin was fired, because Obama, the US Congress, the IMF, the EU all insisted on it after his deputies were caught with a bunch of swag.

 

[JoeB131]

Maybe because Joe's son was on the board of the company that benefitted from Shokin's firing. The CEO that hired Hunter for millions to sit on the board, and the company itself, were out from under an investigation in less that 1 year following the firing. Worked out well for Burisma and the CEO, who now is believed to be living in and around Monaco....poor thing. Yeah, that is quite fishy to anyone that NOT a dye in the wool Democrat.

Or maybe Hunter's company did exactly what they were supposed to do. They were hired to bring Bursima into corporate compliance with western regulations so they could do business. This was done.

https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN1WX1P6/

Interviews with more than a dozen people, including executives and former prosecutors in Ukraine, paint a picture of a director who provided advice on legal issues, corporate finance and strategy during a five-year term on the board, which ended in April of this year.

Biden never visited Ukraine for company business during that time, according to three of the people.

They also said that his presence on the board didn’t protect the company from its most serious challenge: a series of criminal investigations launched by Ukrainian authorities against its owner, Mykola Zlochevsky, a multimillionaire former minister of ecology and natural resources. The allegations concern tax violations, money-laundering and licences given to Burisma during the period where Zlochevsky was a minister.

In an interview with Reuters in September, former Ukraine prosecutor Yuriy Lutsenko said Hunter Biden’s position on the board when his father was vice-president raised no red flags. “From the point of view of Ukrainian law, (Hunter Biden) didn’t violate anything,” Lutsenko said.

Ukraine’s new general prosecutor Ruslan Ryaboshapka, who took over in August, said he was not aware of any wrongdoing by Hunter Biden. His office announced on Oct 4 that it was reviewing 15 previous investigations related to Zlochevsky but no decision had been taken on how to proceed against him or people related to him.

 

[DBA]

Sounds like a shakedown to me. "Nice country you have, Zelensky, it would be a shame if something were to happen to it."

The video of Biden saying, "No money until you get rid of this guy" was in compliance with ALL the agencies that were insisting Shokin had to go before they'd get any more aid. Even Republicans in Congress called for his removal at the time.

If the guy that is supposedly being shaken down doesn't even know that he is being shaken down, then it didn't happen. Zolensky didn't take it that way as he has stated many times.

That and Trump slow-rolled the delivery of weapon systems that Congress had already authorized.

Yeah, sure. The money was given. Slow rolled is just subjective malarky.

Uh, we have all of Trump's twitter posts. All his public speaking where he incited these people. Come on, man, Trump pretending he didn't know what the result of his actions were are as laughable as a guy in a car accident claiming he didn't know how drunk he was

He didn't organize anything. Him saying that he though the election was stolen was perfectly within his rights. If you want to start nitpicking Twitter posts, you will find many Democratic politicians in positions of power calling for anarchy over various issues.

 

[DBA]

Or maybe Hunter's company did exactly what they were supposed to do. They were hired to bring Bursima into corporate compliance with western regulations so they could do business. This was done.

https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN1WX1P6/

Interviews with more than a dozen people, including executives and former prosecutors in Ukraine, paint a picture of a director who provided advice on legal issues, corporate finance and strategy during a five-year term on the board, which ended in April of this year.

Biden never visited Ukraine for company business during that time, according to three of the people.

They also said that his presence on the board didn’t protect the company from its most serious challenge: a series of criminal investigations launched by Ukrainian authorities against its owner, Mykola Zlochevsky, a multimillionaire former minister of ecology and natural resources. The allegations concern tax violations, money-laundering and licences given to Burisma during the period where Zlochevsky was a minister.

In an interview with Reuters in September, former Ukraine prosecutor Yuriy Lutsenko said Hunter Biden’s position on the board when his father was vice-president raised no red flags. “From the point of view of Ukrainian law, (Hunter Biden) didn’t violate anything,” Lutsenko said.

Ukraine’s new general prosecutor Ruslan Ryaboshapka, who took over in August, said he was not aware of any wrongdoing by Hunter Biden. His office announced on Oct 4 that it was reviewing 15 previous investigations related to Zlochevsky but no decision had been taken on how to proceed against him or people related to him.

The stuff you people believe is hilarious.

Hunter Biden was hired by Burisma for influence peddling reasons. Joe has already been caught lying about having contact with Hunter's business associates. They change their story daily as more evidence surfaces. Lemmings like yourself believe each and every one of them.

 

[JoeB131]

If the guy that is supposedly being shaken down doesn't even know that he is being shaken down, then it didn't happen. Zolensky didn't take it that way as he has stated many times.

Or he just doesn't want to be a political issue in America. Which is too late, the GOP is perfectly willing to sell out his country to appease Cheeto Jesus.

Yeah, sure. The money was given. Slow rolled is just subjective malarky.

It wasn't released until Congress complained... again, more proof that Trump is Putin's Cockholster.

He didn't organize anything. Him saying that he though the election was stolen was perfectly within his rights. If you want to start nitpicking Twitter posts, you will find many Democratic politicians in positions of power calling for anarchy over various issues.

And I would be perfectly fine with keeping them off Federal Ballots if you can prove to a judge that they were in the wrong.

Come on, man, own January 6th. You guys didn't like a result of an election and committed treason. You guys talk fucking smack all the time about how you need your guns to fights the government, don't get all wobbly because you got caught.

 

[JoeB131]

The stuff you people believe is hilarious.

Hunter Biden was hired by Burisma for influence peddling reasons. Joe has already been caught lying about having contact with Hunter's business associates. They change their story daily as more evidence surfaces. Lemmings like yourself believe each and every one of them.

Saying hi during a lunch isn't a "contact'.

Show me something Biden did that benefited Hunter's business clients. (And, no, Shokin doesn't count, because Biden didn't fire him.)

 

[DBA]

Saying hi during a lunch isn't a "contact'.

Show me something Biden did that benefited Hunter's business clients. (And, no, Shokin doesn't count, because Biden didn't fire him.)

He said "hi" on several phone calls with Hunter's business partners. Its just a tad strange that he was even on these calls at all just to say hi.

The story has now changed to Joe had no financial knowledge of Hunter's business dealings. Once more info comes out, another qualifier will likely be added and the lemmings that support this treasonous administration will go right along with whatever excuses they cook up.

 

[JoeB131]

He said "hi" on several phone calls with Hunter's business partners. Its just a tad strange that he was even on these calls at all just to say hi.

The story has now changed to Joe had no financial knowledge of Hunter's business dealings. Once more info comes out, another qualifier will likely be added and the lemmings that support this treasonous administration will go right along with whatever excuses they cook up.

Actually, the story hasn't changed, but you guys keep throwing out bizarre accusations.

Just like you spend 30 years investigating the Clintons, and the only things you proved is he got a blow job and she used the wrong email address.

Meanwhile, Trump is defrauding banks, raping women, paying porn stats for sex, inciting insurrections, shaking down foreign governments, and you are "Meh, nothing to see here, because I don't want to admit I was wrong"

 

[White 6]

Careful or you'll taint the water, otherwise thin out the vote playing around with different candidates in this way, that you and other's might cause the Republicans to lose out to the Democrat's again. Think about that before you throw your vote away on an unlikely candidate. Now if indicators are showing that the front runner Trump is out, then of course it's wide open then, but it's a wait and see game. Unity is the most important thing for the Republicans, even if they gotta hold their noses in order to defeat the Democrat's at all cost.

If they insist on Donny, I will do my best to make sure they lose, as it looks like thinning out democracy and support foreign strongmen and dictators, while weakening our constitution, is on Donny's agenda.

 

[Raynine]

If they insist on Donny, I will do my best to make sure they lose, as it looks like thinning out democracy and support foreign strongmen and dictators, while weakening our constitution, is on Donny's agenda.

The only solution to rectify a "corrected" election and a "selected" president is to prove to the world that normal intelligence still exists in the US. Otherwise, the US in done and the world iteslf will not be far behind. The world is watching us and we must not fail to show the world that hateful elitism will not prevail.