Lesh
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Read the thread.
The overwhelming majority DO show up for their court date
Can you read
The question I'd like to put out for discussion is, has the response to the violations of law always been part.....
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The overwhelming majority DO show up for their court date
Can you read
Seymour Flops
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"vera.org?" Really?Vast majority of asylum seekers show up to court.
Evidence Shows That Most Immigrants Appear for Immigration Court…
The United States confines hundreds of thousands of immigrants in prison-like detention facilities at a cost to taxpayers of billions of dollars each year. Expanding use of civil detention is often justified by the government as being necessary to ensure that immigrants continue to attend court…www.vera.org
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So we established that you are full of shit....
What was your point again?
The 98% and 95% figures are for adults and children represented by lawyers in that "org." so of course they have a reason to pump up their number. My guess is that when a client does not show up, they drop them as clients and therefore they do not count in the figures of "SAFE clients."
But it doesn't matter, its an advertising site with no credibility and it presents no evidence in spite of the headline. Here is a much better one:
According to EOIR data, from fiscal years 2016 through 2023, the total in absentia rate was 34 percent for removal cases of non-detained respondents. EOIR calculates the in absentia rate by dividing the number of in absentia removal orders by the number of immigration judges' initial decisions resolving cases. The rate varied by certain characteristics, such as court location, legal representation status, and demographic characteristics.
Rates of Non-detained Respondent Cases Ordered Removed in Absentia Out of Initial Case Decisions
Immigration Courts: Actions Needed to Track and Report Noncitizens' Hearing Appearances
The Department of Justice's Executive Office for Immigration Review holds immigration hearings to determine whether noncitizens will be removed from...
Those who are given final orders of removal, in absentia or otherwise, are the ones being deported now, along with violent criminals. So, as I said, they refused their chance at due process, so the removal hearing without them, WAS their due process.
Now, you can answer this question:
If deporting a planeload of illegal immigrants prevents even one American from being murdered, or even one child from being gang-raped and trafficked, is it worth it?
Lesh
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83% show up. Many among those who don’t either did’t receive notifications or faced hardship (illness etc.)"vera.org?" Really?
The 98% and 95% figures are for adults and children represented by lawyers in that "org." so of course they have a reason to pump up their number. My guess is that when a client does not show up, they drop them as clients and therefore they do not count in the figures of "SAFE clients."
But it doesn't matter, its an advertising site with no credibility and it presents no evidence in spite of the headline. Here is a much better one:
According to EOIR data, from fiscal years 2016 through 2023, the total in absentia rate was 34 percent for removal cases of non-detained respondents. EOIR calculates the in absentia rate by dividing the number of in absentia removal orders by the number of immigration judges' initial decisions resolving cases. The rate varied by certain characteristics, such as court location, legal representation status, and demographic characteristics.
Rates of Non-detained Respondent Cases Ordered Removed in Absentia Out of Initial Case Decisions
Immigration Courts: Actions Needed to Track and Report Noncitizens' Hearing Appearances
The Department of Justice's Executive Office for Immigration Review holds immigration hearings to determine whether noncitizens will be removed from...www.gao.gov
Those who are given final orders of removal, in absentia or otherwise, are the ones being deported now, along with violent criminals. So, as I said, they refused their chance at due process, so the removal hearing without them, WAS their due process.
Now, you can answer this question:
If deporting a planeload of illegal immigrants prevents even one American from being murdered, or even one child from being gang-raped and trafficked, is it worth it?
So you’re not only wrong… you have it exactly backwards
11 Years of Government Data Reveal That Immigrants Do Show Up for Court
A new report released today by the American Immigration Council examines 11 years of government data on the rate at which immigrants appear for hearings in U.S. immigration court. The report, “Measuring In Absentia Removal in Immigration Court,” concludes that an overwhelming 83% of immigrants...
jc456
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I wish you morons would read the executive branch role. Judicial isn't there if you read it. Now you're going to tell us this judge can stop air strikes right? LMFAO you all are so fking ignorant.
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so why haven't these folks ever shown up?Vast majority of asylum seekers show up to court.
Evidence Shows That Most Immigrants Appear for Immigration Court…
The United States confines hundreds of thousands of immigrants in prison-like detention facilities at a cost to taxpayers of billions of dollars each year. Expanding use of civil detention is often justified by the government as being necessary to ensure that immigrants continue to attend court…
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So we established that you are full of shit....
What was your point again?
They got a court date to do that... They were waiting for the court date...
Get it...
So they got no due process..
Cause they have...
There is a time between arriving in the country and your court date, in a lot of cases there can be multiple court dates...
Asylum Seekers show up 98% of the time and we are not counting the ones that move to another country or go back...
"vera.org?" Really?
The 98% and 95% figures are for adults and children represented by lawyers in that "org." so of course they have a reason to pump up their number. My guess is that when a client does not show up, they drop them as clients and therefore they do not count in the figures of "SAFE clients."
But it doesn't matter, its an advertising site with no credibility and it presents no evidence in spite of the headline. Here is a much better one:
According to EOIR data, from fiscal years 2016 through 2023, the total in absentia rate was 34 percent for removal cases of non-detained respondents. EOIR calculates the in absentia rate by dividing the number of in absentia removal orders by the number of immigration judges' initial decisions resolving cases. The rate varied by certain characteristics, such as court location, legal representation status, and demographic characteristics.
Rates of Non-detained Respondent Cases Ordered Removed in Absentia Out of Initial Case Decisions
Immigration Courts: Actions Needed to Track and Report Noncitizens' Hearing Appearances
The Department of Justice's Executive Office for Immigration Review holds immigration hearings to determine whether noncitizens will be removed from...
Those who are given final orders of removal, in absentia or otherwise, are the ones being deported now, along with violent criminals. So, as I said, they refused their chance at due process, so the removal hearing without them, WAS their due process.
Now, you can answer this question:
If deporting a planeload of illegal immigrants prevents even one American from being murdered, or even one child from being gang-raped and trafficked, is it worth it?
11 Years of Government Data Reveal That Immigrants Do Show Up for Court
A new report released today by the American Immigration Council examines 11 years of government data on the rate at which immigrants appear for hearings in U.S. immigration court. The report, “Measuring In Absentia Removal in Immigration Court,” concludes that an overwhelming 83% of immigrants...
- 96% of nondetained immigrants represented by a lawyer attended all of their hearings.
Also those immigrants have a lower crime rate than US Citizens...
At which point are ye going to say that the assumptions you relied on were wrong?
Could you please base your opinions on actual facts not the misinformation you heard and repeated.
Toddsterpatriot
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That's a shame.
jc456
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but every one of these guys had warrants against them. Courts and judges give warrants.
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I would ignore the hack!
Nope...
ICE doesn't need warrant to make an arrest...
This is the problem with what they did with the Venezuelans... They go no hearing, no lawyer rung, no family informed, no tracker used,... nothing...
We are just taking the word of ICE that they were even Venezuelan. They could have been American.
When they arrested Mahmoud Khali they said he was violating his Student Visa, he had a Green Card, they still arrested him.
Trump is now talking about revoking birth right citizenship... So that could mean almost anyone could be picked up for percieved wrong doing..
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They are criminal invaders, and deserve no hearing, they are not citizens stop wasting tax payer dollars on this garbage
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You have things half assed backwards as usual.
In the case of the Venezuelan Gang Banger being deported, the Trump Administration was given no written orders or chance to appeal before the said ne'er-do-wells were expelled.
The judge- who didn't have any jurisdiction in the case- issued an verbal "order" after the plane was already in the air.
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Why would Trump believe that? The barrage against Trump has been on going for years. And as he keeps his promises, the left will amp up the attacks. We don't care. We hired Trump to get this country back on track. We don't care if you don't like it. We tried it your way, and what a mess.
We don't care what an egotistical judge does to thwart our efforts. The mandate was clear.
Seymour Flops
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Why would I believe the biased reporting of the "American Immigration Councel" over that of the GAO?83% show up. Many among those who don’t either did’t receive notifications or faced hardship (illness etc.)
So you’re not only wrong… you have it exactly backwards
11 Years of Government Data Reveal That Immigrants Do Show Up for Court
A new report released today by the American Immigration Council examines 11 years of government data on the rate at which immigrants appear for hearings in U.S. immigration court. The report, “Measuring In Absentia Removal in Immigration Court,” concludes that an overwhelming 83% of immigrants...www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org
CowboyTed same question for you, since I see you guys are reduced to stealing each other's material.
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no jurisdiction
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except the timeline says otherwise. And one plane was due to deportation orders by xiden. All others were removed by warrants from the courts and judges.
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