Human Caused Global Warming

[jc456]

Billy, you're just yanking crazy nonsense out of your ass now.

It's all you can do, because you're a cult moron.

That would account for all the laughter directed at you.

I love it when this is all you got!!!! What a f00l

No I'm not...YOU are!

Then provide the experiment that shows that 120 PPM of CO2 affects temperature. Then You are no longer a fool, until then, baby it's cold outside!!!!!

BTW, I didn't know you were manmoth, if you're not, then you also can't avoid the stupid stick. wow!!!!!

hahahahahahahaahahhahahhahahhhahaha oh dude, you got hit by multiple stupid sticks. Holy crap.

 

[idb]

Billy, you're just yanking crazy nonsense out of your ass now.

It's all you can do, because you're a cult moron.

That would account for all the laughter directed at you.

I love it when this is all you got!!!! What a f00l

No I'm not...YOU are!

Then provide the experiment that shows that 120 PPM of CO2 affects temperature. Then You are no longer a fool, until then, baby it's cold outside!!!!!

BTW, I didn't know you were manmoth, if you're not, then you also can't avoid the stupid stick. wow!!!!!

hahahahahahahaahahhahahhahahhhahaha oh dude, you got hit by multiple stupid sticks. Holy crap.

I'm struggling to find something simple enough for you...I'm trying Donald Duck cartoons now but I'm not sure I can do it.

 

[jc456]

I love it when this is all you got!!!! What a f00l

No I'm not...YOU are!

Then provide the experiment that shows that 120 PPM of CO2 affects temperature. Then You are no longer a fool, until then, baby it's cold outside!!!!!

BTW, I didn't know you were manmoth, if you're not, then you also can't avoid the stupid stick. wow!!!!!

hahahahahahahaahahhahahhahahhhahaha oh dude, you got hit by multiple stupid sticks. Holy crap.

I'm struggling to find something simple enough for you...I'm trying Donald Duck cartoons now but I'm not sure I can do it.

so it's actually quite simple, let me dumb it down for ya, Do you.......you idb, have an experiment that shows what 120 PPM of CO2 does to temperatures? Do you? a controlled experiment that starts with benchmark values and then in a controlled manner and incremental 10 PPM amounts of CO2 are added and the temperature recorded for each increment? Not some guy filling up a jar with all CO2 and saying seee it's a gas!!!! wow such stupid.

 

[idb]

No I'm not...YOU are!

Then provide the experiment that shows that 120 PPM of CO2 affects temperature. Then You are no longer a fool, until then, baby it's cold outside!!!!!

BTW, I didn't know you were manmoth, if you're not, then you also can't avoid the stupid stick. wow!!!!!

hahahahahahahaahahhahahhahahhhahaha oh dude, you got hit by multiple stupid sticks. Holy crap.

I'm struggling to find something simple enough for you...I'm trying Donald Duck cartoons now but I'm not sure I can do it.

so it's actually quite simple, let me dumb it down for ya, Do you.......you idb, have an experiment that shows what 120 PPM of CO2 does to temperatures? Do you? a controlled experiment that starts with benchmark values and then in a controlled manner and incremental 10 PPM amounts of CO2 are added and the temperature recorded for each increment? Not some guy filling up a jar with all CO2 and saying seee it's a gas!!!! wow such stupid.

Ya know what?
I've just done a scan back on this thread to see what you're putting up as counter-evidence.
I found some of these
some of these
and a heap of other rubbish.

One thing I couldn't find is you actually using any facts to support your position...in fact, to be truthful, you haven't actually stated your position that I can see although I can infer that Global Warming is probably Liberal so must be wrong...or bad...or something...I'm not really sure.

 

[cultsmasher]

Billy, stop lying. It's always been and still is global warming. Except when Bush tried to change it to "climate change", because he wanted to divert away from the fact of the warming.

What warming? F'ing Moron... You lie so much..

2014 on track to be hottest year on record says US science agency Environment The Guardian

LOL... THE GUARDIAN.... LOL.....

And they Cite the GISS data set which has been adjusted upward 1.2 deg C.. And if you track the UNADJUSTED data set it is the 24th warmest out of 31 years...

The Guardian is only reporting the story.
Would you believe Fox?
NOAA Globe sets 5th hottest-month record of 2014 FOX 11 Online WLUK-TV

They are reporting the lies from our government. Both are wrong.. Having FOX jump on the lie bandwagon is a bit concerning but they will get the message soon enough.

Billy_Bob,
Excuse me for butting in. But years ago, Calvin Coolidge said that the business of government IS business. Seeing how doing something about human caused global warming is to business what showing a crucifix to a vampire is, why would the government be saying anything that supported HCGW.

 

[SSDD]

Billy, you're just yanking crazy nonsense out of your ass now.

It's all you can do, because you're a cult moron.

That would account for all the laughter directed at you.

I love it when this is all you got!!!! What a f00l

No I'm not...YOU are!

Then provide the experiment that shows that 120 PPM of CO2 affects temperature. Then You are no longer a fool, until then, baby it's cold outside!!!!!

BTW, I didn't know you were manmoth, if you're not, then you also can't avoid the stupid stick. wow!!!!!

Sorry again guy....note the sealed bottles...that experiment demonstrates a phenomenon known as the heat of compression...CO2 being more dense than air generates more pressure when heated...more pressure...higher temperature. See the ideal gas laws. If that experiment is done with a vent to allow the pressures within the bottles to remain the same the temperature will also remain the same. CO2 does not cause warming and there is no experiment showing that it does for the same reason there is no experiment showing that rocks fall up when dropped...

 

[SSDD]

I love it when this is all you got!!!! What a f00l

No I'm not...YOU are!

Then provide the experiment that shows that 120 PPM of CO2 affects temperature. Then You are no longer a fool, until then, baby it's cold outside!!!!!

Sorry guy, that one was busted a long time ago...hundreds of times the amount of CO2 that is found in the atmosphere.

Why would you suddenly start believing evidence?
You've shown no interest in it up 'til now.

You must first understand what is being done...I guess you believe a magician can make a quarter materialize in your ear...the prima facia evidence certainly suggests it. It isn't till you grasp what it is that you aren't seeing that you realize that you have been tricked. What you see and think is being demonstrated isn't necessarily what is actually being demonstrated....like the bottle experiment above. It is a fine demonstration of the heat of compression...not the warming properties of CO2 in an open atmosphere since there are none.

 

[SSDD]

What warming? F'ing Moron... You lie so much..

2014 on track to be hottest year on record says US science agency Environment The Guardian

LOL... THE GUARDIAN.... LOL.....

And they Cite the GISS data set which has been adjusted upward 1.2 deg C.. And if you track the UNADJUSTED data set it is the 24th warmest out of 31 years...

The Guardian is only reporting the story.
Would you believe Fox?
NOAA Globe sets 5th hottest-month record of 2014 FOX 11 Online WLUK-TV

They are reporting the lies from our government. Both are wrong.. Having FOX jump on the lie bandwagon is a bit concerning but they will get the message soon enough.

Billy_Bob,
Excuse me for butting in. But years ago, Calvin Coolidge said that the business of government IS business. Seeing how doing something about human caused global warming is to business what showing a crucifix to a vampire is, why would the government be saying anything that supported HCGW.

you must first prove human caused global warming....at present it is an unsubstantiated assumption...nothing more.

 

[jc456]

Then provide the experiment that shows that 120 PPM of CO2 affects temperature. Then You are no longer a fool, until then, baby it's cold outside!!!!!

BTW, I didn't know you were manmoth, if you're not, then you also can't avoid the stupid stick. wow!!!!!

hahahahahahahaahahhahahhahahhhahaha oh dude, you got hit by multiple stupid sticks. Holy crap.

I'm struggling to find something simple enough for you...I'm trying Donald Duck cartoons now but I'm not sure I can do it.

so it's actually quite simple, let me dumb it down for ya, Do you.......you idb, have an experiment that shows what 120 PPM of CO2 does to temperatures? Do you? a controlled experiment that starts with benchmark values and then in a controlled manner and incremental 10 PPM amounts of CO2 are added and the temperature recorded for each increment? Not some guy filling up a jar with all CO2 and saying seee it's a gas!!!! wow such stupid.

Ya know what?
I've just done a scan back on this thread to see what you're putting up as counter-evidence.
I found some of these
some of these
and a heap of other rubbish.

One thing I couldn't find is you actually using any facts to support your position...in fact, to be truthful, you haven't actually stated your position that I can see although I can infer that Global Warming is probably Liberal so must be wrong...or bad...or something...I'm not really sure.

son, I am not claiming anything. You are, therefore the burden is on your stupid ass to present your evidence to support your claim. See you state that 120 PPM of CO2 added in the atmosphere increases temperatures, I say prove it. there is my position. Now can you prove it? Do you have an experiment that defines the climb in temperature as CO2 is added up to 120 PPM in a controlled lab? Got that one do you? Until you do, your position is in quicksand and has no ground to stand on.

 

[Billy_Bob]

What warming? F'ing Moron... You lie so much..

2014 on track to be hottest year on record says US science agency Environment The Guardian

LOL... THE GUARDIAN.... LOL.....

And they Cite the GISS data set which has been adjusted upward 1.2 deg C.. And if you track the UNADJUSTED data set it is the 24th warmest out of 31 years...

The Guardian is only reporting the story.
Would you believe Fox?
NOAA Globe sets 5th hottest-month record of 2014 FOX 11 Online WLUK-TV

They are reporting the lies from our government. Both are wrong.. Having FOX jump on the lie bandwagon is a bit concerning but they will get the message soon enough.

Billy_Bob,
Excuse me for butting in. But years ago, Calvin Coolidge said that the business of government IS business. Seeing how doing something about human caused global warming is to business what showing a crucifix to a vampire is, why would the government be saying anything that supported HCGW.

SO your ok with binding the media and having them spout a lie if it advances your political agenda... The government has no buisness in buisness.. They are to have very limited scope and intrusion into personal lives and buisness in general. The problem is the government thinks they should control you lock, stock and barrel. Only a communist or a dictator thinks this way... No thanks! This is exactly why the founding fathers got out of Europe... Individuals free will ALWAYS out perform those under bondage.

 

[SSDD]

2014 on track to be hottest year on record says US science agency Environment The Guardian

LOL... THE GUARDIAN.... LOL.....

And they Cite the GISS data set which has been adjusted upward 1.2 deg C.. And if you track the UNADJUSTED data set it is the 24th warmest out of 31 years...

The Guardian is only reporting the story.
Would you believe Fox?
NOAA Globe sets 5th hottest-month record of 2014 FOX 11 Online WLUK-TV

They are reporting the lies from our government. Both are wrong.. Having FOX jump on the lie bandwagon is a bit concerning but they will get the message soon enough.

Billy_Bob,
Excuse me for butting in. But years ago, Calvin Coolidge said that the business of government IS business. Seeing how doing something about human caused global warming is to business what showing a crucifix to a vampire is, why would the government be saying anything that supported HCGW.

SO your ok with binding the media and having them spout a lie if it advances your political agenda... The government has no buisness in buisness.. They are to have very limited scope and intrusion into personal lives and buisness in general. The problem is the government thinks they should control you lock, stock and barrel. Only a communist or a dictator thinks this way... No thanks! This is exactly why the founding fathers got out of Europe... Individuals free will ALWAYS out perform those under bondage.

Government in business is the socialist way...

 

[sealybobo]

In my thread "Will You Vote Republican," somebody who goes by Vigilante sent me a reply that seems to refute the whole human caused global warming thing. But I thought my reply is something that you would all like to weigh in on.

Each year, all the volcanoes on earth put out an estimated 200 MILLION tons of CO2. Though some of this of course goes directly into the oceans. Humans on the other hand are responsible for an estimated 26.8 BILLION tons per year. Also, anybody who wishes to can look up a graph of the ammount of CO2 humans have put out since the beginning of the industrial revolution. Lately, human generated CO2 appears to be going up at a rate that is beyond exponential. There is a good chance that temperatures will follow suit.

This past summer, temperatures were fairly cool around where I live. But from what I have seen, if there are cooler temperatures in one area, it means that temperatures are hotter in another area of the earth.

I have a sister who is a human caused global warming denier. She points that in the far distant past, atmospheric CO2 levels were much higher than they are now. Which is true. Around one hundred million years ago or so, they were much higher. Apparently because of the breakup of the continents, things have been cooling down over a long time. Causing many ice ages. But as far as I have seen, this isn't something that happened a very long time ago. When global CO2 levels were much higher. We are in uncharted territory. No doubt there is much more methane in places like frozen tundra or shallow seas than there was in the far past. And methane is 20 times better at causing global warming than CO2. Just how much warming will it take for that to start getting released in ever greater quantity. It's hard to say. But there is one thing I know for sure. Most people don't really care what happens. As long as it happens to someone else.

So is there a mass conspiracy to pull the wool over the world’s eyes? It seems highly unlikely, considering the numerous studies that show overwhelming consensus among respected scientists that anthropogenic (human-caused) global warming is indisputable.

at least 97 percent believe in anthropogenic climate change

The study says that the few "contrarian" scientists are a vocal, but small, minority. They also found that those scientists denying human-caused climate change tend to have less expertise in the subject than those who believe in it.
Another survey out of the University of Illinois found that 82 percent of earth scientists (out of more than 3,000 respondents) believe that global temperature shifts are human-caused. Among climate-specific earth scientists who responded, 97.4 percent said they believe in human-caused climate change.
"It seems that the debate on the authenticity of global warming and the role played by human activity is largely nonexistent among those who understand the nuances and scientific basis of long-term climate processes,"

Awe... Poor little libtard is using John Cooks FALSE STATEMENTS (which are quoted in both papers) as fact when they have been show a lie...

Your entire position is a lie. 90% say so. Once your side decides it is no longer effective to lie/deny they will argue their second talking point then 3rd. Eventually we will be arguing with you on who should be the ones to pay for the solution. We as a society should decide that the corporate pollutors that contribute the most to GW should but you guys will fight that until ultimately you will make us the people pay.

And I don't blame you. Why not sock it to the people? They don't even show up to vote so keep fucking them until they have had enough. Clearly they haven't had enough. The America people are so dumb.

By the way, this is the same thing happening in Michigan with our roads. Michigan allows corporations to put more weight on trucks than any of the other 50 states. That alone is a reason why corporations do business in Michigan. No need to give them more tax breaks although Snyder did give them more. Anyways, the point is that corporate trucks tear up our roads more than our cars do. So corporations should pay for the roads. But Snyder says no. He gave them tax breaks and says we don't have any $ to fix the roads, so he's going to raise our taxes. Basically proving me right. Republicans are only anti tax for the rich. They actually shift the tax burden from the rich onto us. Essentially they are for raising our taxes so they can lower the taxes for the rich. If you are for that, either you are dumb or rich.

Remember for how many years Republicans said NO NEW TAXES? Suddenly they win a 2nd term and sock it to the middle class? Where are all my middle class buddies who vote Republican? Suddenly they are defending tax increases? Interesting. Just like when they win back the white house they will stop being deficit hawks bet me. THey'll double the debt and you won't hear a sound out of their defenders. In fact remember Chaney said debt was good? I do.

Eventually we will be arguing with you on who should be the ones to pay for the solution. We as a society should decide that the corporate pollutors that contribute the most to GW should

That sounds like a great idea! How do you do it without making "the people pay"?

Oh we are all going to pay. I have no idea how we are going to move from gas cars to hydrogen cars but it has to and will happen.

If you want humans to continue to exist then we'll have to pay. I actually think it would be better if we don't pay and if we kill off humans and leave this planet to all the other species, I think all the other species will be better off. Humans are the plague of this planet. As smart as we are, we are doomed because of our warring and overpopulating.

Think about it. Without humans earth would be a garden of edin. Maybe one day if the deer evolve enough to be smart enough to make up god in their minds then they'll think every time a wolf or bear eats one of them they'll call that "evil". But don't worry because mommy Bambi just went to deer heaven.

God humans are dumb. If it weren't for 1% of the people who figured out electricity and medicines and how to make an engine, where would fools like you be? I'll tell you where you would be. Instead of spewing your bullshit on the net you'd be writing it on a cave wall somewhere.

 

[sealybobo]

2014 on track to be hottest year on record says US science agency Environment The Guardian

LOL... THE GUARDIAN.... LOL.....

And they Cite the GISS data set which has been adjusted upward 1.2 deg C.. And if you track the UNADJUSTED data set it is the 24th warmest out of 31 years...

The Guardian is only reporting the story.
Would you believe Fox?
NOAA Globe sets 5th hottest-month record of 2014 FOX 11 Online WLUK-TV

They are reporting the lies from our government. Both are wrong.. Having FOX jump on the lie bandwagon is a bit concerning but they will get the message soon enough.

Billy_Bob,
Excuse me for butting in. But years ago, Calvin Coolidge said that the business of government IS business. Seeing how doing something about human caused global warming is to business what showing a crucifix to a vampire is, why would the government be saying anything that supported HCGW.

SO your ok with binding the media and having them spout a lie if it advances your political agenda... The government has no buisness in buisness.. They are to have very limited scope and intrusion into personal lives and buisness in general. The problem is the government thinks they should control you lock, stock and barrel. Only a communist or a dictator thinks this way... No thanks! This is exactly why the founding fathers got out of Europe... Individuals free will ALWAYS out perform those under bondage.

Are you kidding me? The fucking government is the referee in the game of business.

Democracy - Not The Free Market - Will Save America s Middle Class

The "middle class" is the creation of government intervention in the marketplace, and won't exist without it

 

[sealybobo]

In my thread "Will You Vote Republican," somebody who goes by Vigilante sent me a reply that seems to refute the whole human caused global warming thing. But I thought my reply is something that you would all like to weigh in on.

Each year, all the volcanoes on earth put out an estimated 200 MILLION tons of CO2. Though some of this of course goes directly into the oceans. Humans on the other hand are responsible for an estimated 26.8 BILLION tons per year. Also, anybody who wishes to can look up a graph of the ammount of CO2 humans have put out since the beginning of the industrial revolution. Lately, human generated CO2 appears to be going up at a rate that is beyond exponential. There is a good chance that temperatures will follow suit.

This past summer, temperatures were fairly cool around where I live. But from what I have seen, if there are cooler temperatures in one area, it means that temperatures are hotter in another area of the earth.

I have a sister who is a human caused global warming denier. She points that in the far distant past, atmospheric CO2 levels were much higher than they are now. Which is true. Around one hundred million years ago or so, they were much higher. Apparently because of the breakup of the continents, things have been cooling down over a long time. Causing many ice ages. But as far as I have seen, this isn't something that happened a very long time ago. When global CO2 levels were much higher. We are in uncharted territory. No doubt there is much more methane in places like frozen tundra or shallow seas than there was in the far past. And methane is 20 times better at causing global warming than CO2. Just how much warming will it take for that to start getting released in ever greater quantity. It's hard to say. But there is one thing I know for sure. Most people don't really care what happens. As long as it happens to someone else.

So is there a mass conspiracy to pull the wool over the world’s eyes? It seems highly unlikely, considering the numerous studies that show overwhelming consensus among respected scientists that anthropogenic (human-caused) global warming is indisputable.

at least 97 percent believe in anthropogenic climate change

The study says that the few "contrarian" scientists are a vocal, but small, minority. They also found that those scientists denying human-caused climate change tend to have less expertise in the subject than those who believe in it.
Another survey out of the University of Illinois found that 82 percent of earth scientists (out of more than 3,000 respondents) believe that global temperature shifts are human-caused. Among climate-specific earth scientists who responded, 97.4 percent said they believe in human-caused climate change.
"It seems that the debate on the authenticity of global warming and the role played by human activity is largely nonexistent among those who understand the nuances and scientific basis of long-term climate processes,"

Awe... Poor little libtard is using John Cooks FALSE STATEMENTS (which are quoted in both papers) as fact when they have been show a lie...

Your entire position is a lie. 90% say so. Once your side decides it is no longer effective to lie/deny they will argue their second talking point then 3rd. Eventually we will be arguing with you on who should be the ones to pay for the solution. We as a society should decide that the corporate pollutors that contribute the most to GW should but you guys will fight that until ultimately you will make us the people pay.

And I don't blame you. Why not sock it to the people? They don't even show up to vote so keep fucking them until they have had enough. Clearly they haven't had enough. The America people are so dumb.

By the way, this is the same thing happening in Michigan with our roads. Michigan allows corporations to put more weight on trucks than any of the other 50 states. That alone is a reason why corporations do business in Michigan. No need to give them more tax breaks although Snyder did give them more. Anyways, the point is that corporate trucks tear up our roads more than our cars do. So corporations should pay for the roads. But Snyder says no. He gave them tax breaks and says we don't have any $ to fix the roads, so he's going to raise our taxes. Basically proving me right. Republicans are only anti tax for the rich. They actually shift the tax burden from the rich onto us. Essentially they are for raising our taxes so they can lower the taxes for the rich. If you are for that, either you are dumb or rich.

Remember for how many years Republicans said NO NEW TAXES? Suddenly they win a 2nd term and sock it to the middle class? Where are all my middle class buddies who vote Republican? Suddenly they are defending tax increases? Interesting. Just like when they win back the white house they will stop being deficit hawks bet me. THey'll double the debt and you won't hear a sound out of their defenders. In fact remember Chaney said debt was good? I do.

Eventually we will be arguing with you on who should be the ones to pay for the solution. We as a society should decide that the corporate pollutors that contribute the most to GW should

That sounds like a great idea! How do you do it without making "the people pay"?

that dude's been hit with a stupid stick a long time ago. he doesn't understand climate and so I know he doesn't understand economics..

Aren't you the same free market fools who gave the rich tax breaks while starting two wars you didn't win, hired illegals who were only doing jobs Americans wouldn't do, and sent all our good paying manufacturing jobs overseas and caused the Great Recession of 2007?

This is the same thing you'll do with Global Warming. You'll deny deny deny until you can't any longer then you'll blame Carter, Obama, Clinton, Freddy Mack and Fanny Mae, Pelosi, Reed.

 

[sealybobo]

Your entire position is a lie. 90% say so. Once your side decides it is no longer effective to lie/deny they will argue their second talking point then 3rd. Eventually we will be arguing with you on who should be the ones to pay for the solution. We as a society should decide that the corporate pollutors that contribute the most to GW should but you guys will fight that until ultimately you will make us the people pay.

And I don't blame you. Why not sock it to the people? They don't even show up to vote so keep fucking them until they have had enough. Clearly they haven't had enough. The America people are so dumb.

By the way, this is the same thing happening in Michigan with our roads. Michigan allows corporations to put more weight on trucks than any of the other 50 states. That alone is a reason why corporations do business in Michigan. No need to give them more tax breaks although Snyder did give them more. Anyways, the point is that corporate trucks tear up our roads more than our cars do. So corporations should pay for the roads. But Snyder says no. He gave them tax breaks and says we don't have any $ to fix the roads, so he's going to raise our taxes. Basically proving me right. Republicans are only anti tax for the rich. They actually shift the tax burden from the rich onto us. Essentially they are for raising our taxes so they can lower the taxes for the rich. If you are for that, either you are dumb or rich.

Remember for how many years Republicans said NO NEW TAXES? Suddenly they win a 2nd term and sock it to the middle class? Where are all my middle class buddies who vote Republican? Suddenly they are defending tax increases? Interesting. Just like when they win back the white house they will stop being deficit hawks bet me. THey'll double the debt and you won't hear a sound out of their defenders. In fact remember Chaney said debt was good? I do.

You cant determine what is pollution and what is good for the earth. SO i take your intelligence level to be very low on scientific items.

As for your 90+% consensus lie, its a LIE! John Cook is a liar! he manipulated data and inferred things about papers and people he had no knowledge of. Its called scientific fraud.

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As for the debt.. Obama and liberals quadrupled the debt in just six years.. And im dam mad about that too.. Most of that money found its way into obama donors hands through the green enviro wacko agenda...

Show me the 90% consensus is a lie. You claim it is a lie, do you have a link that goes into detail explaining how it is a lie? I doubt you do because you are a spinster. Why do you deny GW? My hunch is you are a right winger who defends every and all right wing positions no matter how wrong they are.

How can I take you seriously when you are a flat out idiot or liar?

Global warming is a hoax says Louisiana congressional hopeful Lenar Whitney PolitiFact

 

[jc456]

So is there a mass conspiracy to pull the wool over the world’s eyes? It seems highly unlikely, considering the numerous studies that show overwhelming consensus among respected scientists that anthropogenic (human-caused) global warming is indisputable.

at least 97 percent believe in anthropogenic climate change

The study says that the few "contrarian" scientists are a vocal, but small, minority. They also found that those scientists denying human-caused climate change tend to have less expertise in the subject than those who believe in it.
Another survey out of the University of Illinois found that 82 percent of earth scientists (out of more than 3,000 respondents) believe that global temperature shifts are human-caused. Among climate-specific earth scientists who responded, 97.4 percent said they believe in human-caused climate change.
"It seems that the debate on the authenticity of global warming and the role played by human activity is largely nonexistent among those who understand the nuances and scientific basis of long-term climate processes,"

Awe... Poor little libtard is using John Cooks FALSE STATEMENTS (which are quoted in both papers) as fact when they have been show a lie...

Your entire position is a lie. 90% say so. Once your side decides it is no longer effective to lie/deny they will argue their second talking point then 3rd. Eventually we will be arguing with you on who should be the ones to pay for the solution. We as a society should decide that the corporate pollutors that contribute the most to GW should but you guys will fight that until ultimately you will make us the people pay.

And I don't blame you. Why not sock it to the people? They don't even show up to vote so keep fucking them until they have had enough. Clearly they haven't had enough. The America people are so dumb.

By the way, this is the same thing happening in Michigan with our roads. Michigan allows corporations to put more weight on trucks than any of the other 50 states. That alone is a reason why corporations do business in Michigan. No need to give them more tax breaks although Snyder did give them more. Anyways, the point is that corporate trucks tear up our roads more than our cars do. So corporations should pay for the roads. But Snyder says no. He gave them tax breaks and says we don't have any $ to fix the roads, so he's going to raise our taxes. Basically proving me right. Republicans are only anti tax for the rich. They actually shift the tax burden from the rich onto us. Essentially they are for raising our taxes so they can lower the taxes for the rich. If you are for that, either you are dumb or rich.

Remember for how many years Republicans said NO NEW TAXES? Suddenly they win a 2nd term and sock it to the middle class? Where are all my middle class buddies who vote Republican? Suddenly they are defending tax increases? Interesting. Just like when they win back the white house they will stop being deficit hawks bet me. THey'll double the debt and you won't hear a sound out of their defenders. In fact remember Chaney said debt was good? I do.

Eventually we will be arguing with you on who should be the ones to pay for the solution. We as a society should decide that the corporate pollutors that contribute the most to GW should

That sounds like a great idea! How do you do it without making "the people pay"?

that dude's been hit with a stupid stick a long time ago. he doesn't understand climate and so I know he doesn't understand economics..

Aren't you the same free market fools who gave the rich tax breaks while starting two wars you didn't win, hired illegals who were only doing jobs Americans wouldn't do, and sent all our good paying manufacturing jobs overseas and caused the Great Recession of 2007?

This is the same thing you'll do with Global Warming. You'll deny deny deny until you can't any longer then you'll blame Carter, Obama, Clinton, Freddy Mack and Fanny Mae, Pelosi, Reed.

the envy card eh? You're jealous of us smarter folks. I see that a lot. one day perhpas you'd actually understand how the tax thing actually works. From a site 'Center Forward"
"2010 taxpayer income (in 2011 dollars) Share of all federal taxes paid


$16,961 and under (Bottom 20%) -0.1%


$16,962 to $33,870 (21%-40%) 2.8%


$33,871 to $59,154 (41%-60%) 9.8%

 $59,155 to $103,428 (61%-80%) 18.7%

$103,428 and over (Top 20%) 68.6%"

 

[jc456]

Your entire position is a lie. 90% say so. Once your side decides it is no longer effective to lie/deny they will argue their second talking point then 3rd. Eventually we will be arguing with you on who should be the ones to pay for the solution. We as a society should decide that the corporate pollutors that contribute the most to GW should but you guys will fight that until ultimately you will make us the people pay.

And I don't blame you. Why not sock it to the people? They don't even show up to vote so keep fucking them until they have had enough. Clearly they haven't had enough. The America people are so dumb.

By the way, this is the same thing happening in Michigan with our roads. Michigan allows corporations to put more weight on trucks than any of the other 50 states. That alone is a reason why corporations do business in Michigan. No need to give them more tax breaks although Snyder did give them more. Anyways, the point is that corporate trucks tear up our roads more than our cars do. So corporations should pay for the roads. But Snyder says no. He gave them tax breaks and says we don't have any $ to fix the roads, so he's going to raise our taxes. Basically proving me right. Republicans are only anti tax for the rich. They actually shift the tax burden from the rich onto us. Essentially they are for raising our taxes so they can lower the taxes for the rich. If you are for that, either you are dumb or rich.

Remember for how many years Republicans said NO NEW TAXES? Suddenly they win a 2nd term and sock it to the middle class? Where are all my middle class buddies who vote Republican? Suddenly they are defending tax increases? Interesting. Just like when they win back the white house they will stop being deficit hawks bet me. THey'll double the debt and you won't hear a sound out of their defenders. In fact remember Chaney said debt was good? I do.

You cant determine what is pollution and what is good for the earth. SO i take your intelligence level to be very low on scientific items.

As for your 90+% consensus lie, its a LIE! John Cook is a liar! he manipulated data and inferred things about papers and people he had no knowledge of. Its called scientific fraud.

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As for the debt.. Obama and liberals quadrupled the debt in just six years.. And im dam mad about that too.. Most of that money found its way into obama donors hands through the green enviro wacko agenda...

Show me the 90% consensus is a lie. You claim it is a lie, do you have a link that goes into detail explaining how it is a lie? I doubt you do because you are a spinster. Why do you deny GW? My hunch is you are a right winger who defends every and all right wing positions no matter how wrong they are.

How can I take you seriously when you are a flat out idiot or liar?

Global warming is a hoax says Louisiana congressional hopeful Lenar Whitney PolitiFact

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[Toddsterpatriot]

In my thread "Will You Vote Republican," somebody who goes by Vigilante sent me a reply that seems to refute the whole human caused global warming thing. But I thought my reply is something that you would all like to weigh in on.

Each year, all the volcanoes on earth put out an estimated 200 MILLION tons of CO2. Though some of this of course goes directly into the oceans. Humans on the other hand are responsible for an estimated 26.8 BILLION tons per year. Also, anybody who wishes to can look up a graph of the ammount of CO2 humans have put out since the beginning of the industrial revolution. Lately, human generated CO2 appears to be going up at a rate that is beyond exponential. There is a good chance that temperatures will follow suit.

This past summer, temperatures were fairly cool around where I live. But from what I have seen, if there are cooler temperatures in one area, it means that temperatures are hotter in another area of the earth.

I have a sister who is a human caused global warming denier. She points that in the far distant past, atmospheric CO2 levels were much higher than they are now. Which is true. Around one hundred million years ago or so, they were much higher. Apparently because of the breakup of the continents, things have been cooling down over a long time. Causing many ice ages. But as far as I have seen, this isn't something that happened a very long time ago. When global CO2 levels were much higher. We are in uncharted territory. No doubt there is much more methane in places like frozen tundra or shallow seas than there was in the far past. And methane is 20 times better at causing global warming than CO2. Just how much warming will it take for that to start getting released in ever greater quantity. It's hard to say. But there is one thing I know for sure. Most people don't really care what happens. As long as it happens to someone else.

So is there a mass conspiracy to pull the wool over the world’s eyes? It seems highly unlikely, considering the numerous studies that show overwhelming consensus among respected scientists that anthropogenic (human-caused) global warming is indisputable.

at least 97 percent believe in anthropogenic climate change

The study says that the few "contrarian" scientists are a vocal, but small, minority. They also found that those scientists denying human-caused climate change tend to have less expertise in the subject than those who believe in it.
Another survey out of the University of Illinois found that 82 percent of earth scientists (out of more than 3,000 respondents) believe that global temperature shifts are human-caused. Among climate-specific earth scientists who responded, 97.4 percent said they believe in human-caused climate change.
"It seems that the debate on the authenticity of global warming and the role played by human activity is largely nonexistent among those who understand the nuances and scientific basis of long-term climate processes,"

Awe... Poor little libtard is using John Cooks FALSE STATEMENTS (which are quoted in both papers) as fact when they have been show a lie...

Your entire position is a lie. 90% say so. Once your side decides it is no longer effective to lie/deny they will argue their second talking point then 3rd. Eventually we will be arguing with you on who should be the ones to pay for the solution. We as a society should decide that the corporate pollutors that contribute the most to GW should but you guys will fight that until ultimately you will make us the people pay.

And I don't blame you. Why not sock it to the people? They don't even show up to vote so keep fucking them until they have had enough. Clearly they haven't had enough. The America people are so dumb.

By the way, this is the same thing happening in Michigan with our roads. Michigan allows corporations to put more weight on trucks than any of the other 50 states. That alone is a reason why corporations do business in Michigan. No need to give them more tax breaks although Snyder did give them more. Anyways, the point is that corporate trucks tear up our roads more than our cars do. So corporations should pay for the roads. But Snyder says no. He gave them tax breaks and says we don't have any $ to fix the roads, so he's going to raise our taxes. Basically proving me right. Republicans are only anti tax for the rich. They actually shift the tax burden from the rich onto us. Essentially they are for raising our taxes so they can lower the taxes for the rich. If you are for that, either you are dumb or rich.

Remember for how many years Republicans said NO NEW TAXES? Suddenly they win a 2nd term and sock it to the middle class? Where are all my middle class buddies who vote Republican? Suddenly they are defending tax increases? Interesting. Just like when they win back the white house they will stop being deficit hawks bet me. THey'll double the debt and you won't hear a sound out of their defenders. In fact remember Chaney said debt was good? I do.

Eventually we will be arguing with you on who should be the ones to pay for the solution. We as a society should decide that the corporate pollutors that contribute the most to GW should

That sounds like a great idea! How do you do it without making "the people pay"?

Oh we are all going to pay. I have no idea how we are going to move from gas cars to hydrogen cars but it has to and will happen.

If you want humans to continue to exist then we'll have to pay. I actually think it would be better if we don't pay and if we kill off humans and leave this planet to all the other species, I think all the other species will be better off. Humans are the plague of this planet. As smart as we are, we are doomed because of our warring and overpopulating.

Think about it. Without humans earth would be a garden of edin. Maybe one day if the deer evolve enough to be smart enough to make up god in their minds then they'll think every time a wolf or bear eats one of them they'll call that "evil". But don't worry because mommy Bambi just went to deer heaven.

God humans are dumb. If it weren't for 1% of the people who figured out electricity and medicines and how to make an engine, where would fools like you be? I'll tell you where you would be. Instead of spewing your bullshit on the net you'd be writing it on a cave wall somewhere.

If it weren't for 1% of the people who figured out electricity and medicines and how to make an engine, where would fools like you be?

I'm in the 1% inventing, you're in the 99% whining that my invention is making Gaia cry.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

So is there a mass conspiracy to pull the wool over the world’s eyes? It seems highly unlikely, considering the numerous studies that show overwhelming consensus among respected scientists that anthropogenic (human-caused) global warming is indisputable.

at least 97 percent believe in anthropogenic climate change

The study says that the few "contrarian" scientists are a vocal, but small, minority. They also found that those scientists denying human-caused climate change tend to have less expertise in the subject than those who believe in it.
Another survey out of the University of Illinois found that 82 percent of earth scientists (out of more than 3,000 respondents) believe that global temperature shifts are human-caused. Among climate-specific earth scientists who responded, 97.4 percent said they believe in human-caused climate change.
"It seems that the debate on the authenticity of global warming and the role played by human activity is largely nonexistent among those who understand the nuances and scientific basis of long-term climate processes,"

Awe... Poor little libtard is using John Cooks FALSE STATEMENTS (which are quoted in both papers) as fact when they have been show a lie...

Your entire position is a lie. 90% say so. Once your side decides it is no longer effective to lie/deny they will argue their second talking point then 3rd. Eventually we will be arguing with you on who should be the ones to pay for the solution. We as a society should decide that the corporate pollutors that contribute the most to GW should but you guys will fight that until ultimately you will make us the people pay.

And I don't blame you. Why not sock it to the people? They don't even show up to vote so keep fucking them until they have had enough. Clearly they haven't had enough. The America people are so dumb.

By the way, this is the same thing happening in Michigan with our roads. Michigan allows corporations to put more weight on trucks than any of the other 50 states. That alone is a reason why corporations do business in Michigan. No need to give them more tax breaks although Snyder did give them more. Anyways, the point is that corporate trucks tear up our roads more than our cars do. So corporations should pay for the roads. But Snyder says no. He gave them tax breaks and says we don't have any $ to fix the roads, so he's going to raise our taxes. Basically proving me right. Republicans are only anti tax for the rich. They actually shift the tax burden from the rich onto us. Essentially they are for raising our taxes so they can lower the taxes for the rich. If you are for that, either you are dumb or rich.

Remember for how many years Republicans said NO NEW TAXES? Suddenly they win a 2nd term and sock it to the middle class? Where are all my middle class buddies who vote Republican? Suddenly they are defending tax increases? Interesting. Just like when they win back the white house they will stop being deficit hawks bet me. THey'll double the debt and you won't hear a sound out of their defenders. In fact remember Chaney said debt was good? I do.

Eventually we will be arguing with you on who should be the ones to pay for the solution. We as a society should decide that the corporate pollutors that contribute the most to GW should

That sounds like a great idea! How do you do it without making "the people pay"?

that dude's been hit with a stupid stick a long time ago. he doesn't understand climate and so I know he doesn't understand economics..

Aren't you the same free market fools who gave the rich tax breaks while starting two wars you didn't win, hired illegals who were only doing jobs Americans wouldn't do, and sent all our good paying manufacturing jobs overseas and caused the Great Recession of 2007?

This is the same thing you'll do with Global Warming. You'll deny deny deny until you can't any longer then you'll blame Carter, Obama, Clinton, Freddy Mack and Fanny Mae, Pelosi, Reed.

Aren't you the same free market fools who gave the rich tax breaks

Everyone got tax breaks.

hired illegals who were only doing jobs Americans wouldn't do

I'm in favor of sealing the border and sending those illegals back, unlike Obama.

 

[cultsmasher]

2014 on track to be hottest year on record says US science agency Environment The Guardian

LOL... THE GUARDIAN.... LOL.....

And they Cite the GISS data set which has been adjusted upward 1.2 deg C.. And if you track the UNADJUSTED data set it is the 24th warmest out of 31 years...

The Guardian is only reporting the story.
Would you believe Fox?
NOAA Globe sets 5th hottest-month record of 2014 FOX 11 Online WLUK-TV

They are reporting the lies from our government. Both are wrong.. Having FOX jump on the lie bandwagon is a bit concerning but they will get the message soon enough.

Billy_Bob,
Excuse me for butting in. But years ago, Calvin Coolidge said that the business of government IS business. Seeing how doing something about human caused global warming is to business what showing a crucifix to a vampire is, why would the government be saying anything that supported HCGW.

SO your ok with binding the media and having them spout a lie if it advances your political agenda... The government has no buisness in buisness.. They are to have very limited scope and intrusion into personal lives and buisness in general. The problem is the government thinks they should control you lock, stock and barrel. Only a communist or a dictator thinks this way... No thanks! This is exactly why the founding fathers got out of Europe... Individuals free will ALWAYS out perform those under bondage.

Billy_Bob,
As I told you, Calvin Cooledge said that the business of government IS business. Any capitalist thinks the same way. For example, there is some interesting history you should look up. Go to your browser and type in something like, "Smedley Butler and his statement comparing the U.S. to Al Capone." It shouldn't be hard to find. After reading it, keep in mkind that the more things change, the more they stay the same.