How would this change how much skilled workers work?

[Misaki]

As always, this doesn't quite fit in this forum: it's not "economic policy" and it's not "wall street." But this seems the closest, other than debate or general discussion.

Salaried workers typically don't get paid more if they work long hours, like staying an extra 2 hours each day of the week. Maybe they feel pressured into doing this work; maybe their boss says it's required; maybe they're afraid to leave work before their boss, even if they have nothing to do; or maybe they are trying to look diligent and so get a promotion, even if the only reason they work late is because they also arrive late. The point is, THEY GET PAID NOTHING FOR WORKING MORE.

Suppose it was changed. We keep track of their hours, and they now get paid 1/4 of the normal rate for all hours over 40. If it's really so terrible to track hours, maybe we can just say that if they come in on Saturday and work the whole day, they get paid for an extra 1/4 of a day, regardless of whether they worked 5 hours or 9 hours on that Saturday.

Would these "salaried" workers work fewer hours over 40 each week than they currently do, when they get paid nothing?

The theory here is that if you offer someone an insultingly low amount to help with something, they'll be less likely to do so than if you asked them to help for free. (Maybe with some non-conventional reward like giving them a pizza afterwards, to indicate that you do appreciate it.)

So, does this theory sound accurate?

 

[TNHarley]

They agree to those terms. If people dont want to do it, maybe they shouldnt make the decision to take the job.

 

[San Souci]

They agree to those terms. If people dont want to do it, maybe they shouldnt make the decision to take the job.

Yes. It is a question of PERSONAL Responsibility. When an American takes a JOB ,he should know the terms.

 

[Misaki]

They agree to those terms. If people dont want to do it, maybe they shouldnt make the decision to take the job.

Well, what's your opinion on the question? Would offering people a small amount of money for working more lead to them working less than the current reality of them getting nothing?

 

[Cecilie1200]

They agree to those terms. If people dont want to do it, maybe they shouldnt make the decision to take the job.

Well, what's your opinion on the question? Would offering people a small amount of money for working more lead to them working less than the current reality of them getting nothing?

I think it depends on the person and the his reason for working more.

 

[Moonglow]

As always, this doesn't quite fit in this forum: it's not "economic policy" and it's not "wall street." But this seems the closest, other than debate or general discussion.

Salaried workers typically don't get paid more if they work long hours, like staying an extra 2 hours each day of the week. Maybe they feel pressured into doing this work; maybe their boss says it's required; maybe they're afraid to leave work before their boss, even if they have nothing to do; or maybe they are trying to look diligent and so get a promotion, even if the only reason they work late is because they also arrive late. The point is, THEY GET PAID NOTHING FOR WORKING MORE.

Suppose it was changed. We keep track of their hours, and they now get paid 1/4 of the normal rate for all hours over 40. If it's really so terrible to track hours, maybe we can just say that if they come in on Saturday and work the whole day, they get paid for an extra 1/4 of a day, regardless of whether they worked 5 hours or 9 hours on that Saturday.

Would these "salaried" workers work fewer hours over 40 each week than they currently do, when they get paid nothing?

The theory here is that if you offer someone an insultingly low amount to help with something, they'll be less likely to do so than if you asked them to help for free. (Maybe with some non-conventional reward like giving them a pizza afterwards, to indicate that you do appreciate it.)

So, does this theory sound accurate?

You should see how many hours you don't get paid for working when you are self employed.

 

[Damaged Eagle]

Haven't worked a salaried job since the service and have no intentions of ever doing so again.

Forty hours a week, time and half after that, and double time if its Sunday, is the only deal I'll take. Otherwise the boss can do that extra work themselves because that's why they're making the big bucks.

Don't like the terms? Fire me.

*****SMILE*****

 

[Misaki]

You should see how many hours you don't get paid for working when you are self employed.

Would you be kind enough to consider the question? Would an "insultingly low" marginal wage discourage people from working, more so than a zero marginal wage does?

 

[Moonglow]

You should see how many hours you don't get paid for working when you are self employed.

Would you be kind enough to consider the question? Would an "insultingly low" marginal wage discourage people from working, more so than a zero marginal wage does?

Depends on how desperate the worker is.