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just imagining how the actual process would begin.
so far its political bluster. but communism is chipping away at democracy. other things constitutional are melting in the fakenews winds of liberal hysteria.
obama changed the constitution.

fake news is the enemy of conservative America.
journalism will make a fabulous comeback.

do they have a ... "plan" for rounding up ar 15's

i still need mine, so im keeping it (them)..
Trump's effort to overturn an election was not fake, and the concern over it was not hysteria.

Fake news is everyone's enemy, left, right and center.

Perhaps you should get your head out of your rifle butt. The argument over gun rights is whored by idiots from both extremes: hoplophobes and those who equate their dicks with their guns.

Moron, it was fake.......you assholes are using the Jan. 6 riot as your modern Reichstag fire.......you had Trump supporters peacefully walking through the capitol building...after the police calmly opened the doors for them....taking selfies...

Meanwhile....antifa and blm terrorists fought with the police and vandalized the building the same way they burned and looted cities for 7 months....
Perhaps antifa and blm were allowed peaceful entry while Trumpers broke through doors and windows, propped their feet on Pelosi's desk and walked off with government property.

You do realize that many of the perps have been arrested, their identities recorded on film and their political sentiments recorded in their identities. Good luck with your theories.

You can scream and yell Moron until you soil your panties; the truth will bury your sorry ass.

The Truth has nothing to do with what happened Jan. 6...the democrats are making sure of that........they told us Trump supporters beat the police officer with a fire extinguisher....didn't happen.....

We may one day find out pelosi ordered the police to stand down....just like the democrat party mayors and governors ordered their police to stand down so antifa and blm could riot, burn, and loot......
Indeed, someone did jump to a conclusion about how the officer died. As for the rest, the accused will get their day in court. I'm content with that.
You're content with these folks being vigorously prosecuted but you're not complaining a bit about all the vandals, assaulters, and arsonists from riots all over the rest of the country that will never see the inside of a courtroom except for a short bail hearing where their bond will be posted by Democrat operatives?

Telling, that.
Thank you for your input, Karen.
Thank you for acknowledging your blatant hypocrisy.
I watched the Karen's until I was tired of it. And all but one were Rumpers who were throwing some kind of fit about something. And when you attempt at trying to convince me that the Invasion of the Capital while they were looking for certain people to kill is right, then you get the Karen name because you earned it.

You can't justify those actions by attempting to use the old "Hey, look over there".
Riiiiight.... (sarcasm)

A bunch of vets and patriots from the United States of 400 million guns and 3 trillion rounds of ammo all left their guns at home when they embarked on "an invasion of the capitol in an attempt to violently overthrow the government", taking selfies all the way...... uh huh. Suuuuure they did..... :rolleyes:


You people are fucking ridiculous.
just imagining how the actual process would begin.
so far its political bluster. but communism is chipping away at democracy. other things constitutional are melting in the fakenews winds of liberal hysteria.
obama changed the constitution.

fake news is the enemy of conservative America.
journalism will make a fabulous comeback.

do they have a ... "plan" for rounding up ar 15's

i still need mine, so im keeping it (them)..
Trump's effort to overturn an election was not fake, and the concern over it was not hysteria.

Fake news is everyone's enemy, left, right and center.

Perhaps you should get your head out of your rifle butt. The argument over gun rights is whored by idiots from both extremes: hoplophobes and those who equate their dicks with their guns.

Moron, it was fake.......you assholes are using the Jan. 6 riot as your modern Reichstag fire.......you had Trump supporters peacefully walking through the capitol building...after the police calmly opened the doors for them....taking selfies...

Meanwhile....antifa and blm terrorists fought with the police and vandalized the building the same way they burned and looted cities for 7 months....
Perhaps antifa and blm were allowed peaceful entry while Trumpers broke through doors and windows, propped their feet on Pelosi's desk and walked off with government property.

You do realize that many of the perps have been arrested, their identities recorded on film and their political sentiments recorded in their identities. Good luck with your theories.

You can scream and yell Moron until you soil your panties; the truth will bury your sorry ass.

The Truth has nothing to do with what happened Jan. 6...the democrats are making sure of that........they told us Trump supporters beat the police officer with a fire extinguisher....didn't happen.....

We may one day find out pelosi ordered the police to stand down....just like the democrat party mayors and governors ordered their police to stand down so antifa and blm could riot, burn, and loot......
Indeed, someone did jump to a conclusion about how the officer died. As for the rest, the accused will get their day in court. I'm content with that.
You're content with these folks being vigorously prosecuted but you're not complaining a bit about all the vandals, assaulters, and arsonists from riots all over the rest of the country that will never see the inside of a courtroom except for a short bail hearing where their bond will be posted by Democrat operatives?

Telling, that.
Thank you for your input, Karen.
Thank you for acknowledging your blatant hypocrisy.
I watched the Karen's until I was tired of it. And all but one were Rumpers who were throwing some kind of fit about something. And when you attempt at trying to convince me that the Invasion of the Capital while they were looking for certain people to kill is right, then you get the Karen name because you earned it.

You can't justify those actions by attempting to use the old "Hey, look over there".
Riiiiight.... (sarcasm)

A bunch of vets and patriots from the United States of 400 million guns and 3 trillion rounds of ammo all left their guns at home when they embarked on "an invasion of the capitol in an attempt to violently overthrow the government", taking selfies all the way...... uh huh. Suuuuure they did..... :rolleyes:


You people are fucking ridiculous.
Patriots my red, white and blue
just imagining how the actual process would begin.
so far its political bluster. but communism is chipping away at democracy. other things constitutional are melting in the fakenews winds of liberal hysteria.
obama changed the constitution.

fake news is the enemy of conservative America.
journalism will make a fabulous comeback.

do they have a ... "plan" for rounding up ar 15's

i still need mine, so im keeping it (them)..
Trump's effort to overturn an election was not fake, and the concern over it was not hysteria.

Fake news is everyone's enemy, left, right and center.

Perhaps you should get your head out of your rifle butt. The argument over gun rights is whored by idiots from both extremes: hoplophobes and those who equate their dicks with their guns.

Moron, it was fake.......you assholes are using the Jan. 6 riot as your modern Reichstag fire.......you had Trump supporters peacefully walking through the capitol building...after the police calmly opened the doors for them....taking selfies...

Meanwhile....antifa and blm terrorists fought with the police and vandalized the building the same way they burned and looted cities for 7 months....
Perhaps antifa and blm were allowed peaceful entry while Trumpers broke through doors and windows, propped their feet on Pelosi's desk and walked off with government property.

You do realize that many of the perps have been arrested, their identities recorded on film and their political sentiments recorded in their identities. Good luck with your theories.

You can scream and yell Moron until you soil your panties; the truth will bury your sorry ass.

The Truth has nothing to do with what happened Jan. 6...the democrats are making sure of that........they told us Trump supporters beat the police officer with a fire extinguisher....didn't happen.....

We may one day find out pelosi ordered the police to stand down....just like the democrat party mayors and governors ordered their police to stand down so antifa and blm could riot, burn, and loot......
Indeed, someone did jump to a conclusion about how the officer died. As for the rest, the accused will get their day in court. I'm content with that.
You're content with these folks being vigorously prosecuted but you're not complaining a bit about all the vandals, assaulters, and arsonists from riots all over the rest of the country that will never see the inside of a courtroom except for a short bail hearing where their bond will be posted by Democrat operatives?

Telling, that.
Thank you for your input, Karen.
Thank you for acknowledging your blatant hypocrisy.
I watched the Karen's until I was tired of it. And all but one were Rumpers who were throwing some kind of fit about something. And when you attempt at trying to convince me that the Invasion of the Capital while they were looking for certain people to kill is right, then you get the Karen name because you earned it.

You can't justify those actions by attempting to use the old "Hey, look over there".
You folks are the most hypocritical, lying shitbags I have ever seen, and I've seen a lot in my time...... you're straight up garbage.
I take this to mean that you spend a lot of time with shitbags and garbage.

Now you're making some sense.
he's not a leftist so you're not making any sense
Trust me, our acquaintance is a shit bag.

Years ago I passed through Carolina on my way to Germany from SE Asia. Didn't care for it, too many squitters and too much chaw spit on the sidewalks.

Question, why do you feel the need to advertise a handgun?
not sure, why do you generalise? like "carolina".
Because I knew it would piss off a redneck.

Please report to the MAGA Office. It's your turn in the barrel.
the barrel?
Yep, the barrel.
i'm sorry.. pickle barrel ? over the barrel ? on the barrelhead.
i'm usually pretty good with liberal cryptic..

is english your first language ?
English is my principal language. I can make myself understood in Spanish, can count to ten in German and know how to tell you to f off in Vietnamese. Why do you ask?
Then why have all your posts here so far been in bullshit?
Bullshit doesn't touch nerves.

Pointing out that Judge Scalia's 643 page Heller decision engaged the kind of judicial activism that conservatism supposedly abhors probably ruffles some panty lace. Not that several on that side, haven't made a good account of their opinions - but there have also been a few comical outburst wander in from the Junior High School.

The 2ndA is is a complex sentence, meaning one containing a subordinate clause; said prefatory announces the reason for the 2ndA which is the necessity of a well regulated militia to a free state. In that objective the right to bear arms was granted to the people (aka the militia). When was the last time we saw the militia in action? Perhaps it was Jan 6th when a band of alleged patriots decided to check their right to (fire)arms and arrived at the gates with sticks and stones? Apparently, unconstitutional restrictions in DC convinced the militia to leave their Kentucky Long Rifles and single shot AR15s at home.

If Joe Biden wants to disband the archaic notion of a militia, I would not expect his effort to infringe upon the ability of those who wish to hunt or protect their home and person. Of course, there are reactionaries among us who will see it differently. Tough shit.
I see you and your bullshit are still here..... :rolleyes:








And I guess you've never heard of the Battle of Athens, have you? Like the saying goes; "You could look it up, pinhead."



(Btw, the constitution does not "grant" rights to people, it recognizes them....... dumbass.)
Nope, I had to look up Athens but I'm not sure that the 1946 date doesn't make my point. If that's the best your google could produce, I guess I owe you a thanks. Nah, that's stupid.

As for dumbass, do me a favor: the next time you wrap one of your arguments in my Constitution, please show the dignity of capitalizing it.

Regarding natural rights, that's fine and dandy but unless duly authorized (granted) by "We the People" your objection is just so much noise about political correctness.
Wrong.... again.


You can't vote away someone's rights. If you could, then that would make the Nazi's treatment of jews and gypsies, perfectly legitimate.
When Trump ask Pence not to decertify the Electorial Vote, to what legal authority did he appeal for canceling votes?

In any case, our conversation wasn't about voting away someone's right to vote. You objected to my use of the word grant as relates to natural rights. Here's my point. I'm not disavowing natural rights. The Jews had natural rights. What good did it do them without a "granting" by an authority capable of insuring the right.
The only security worth a shit is that which you provide for yourself. Take it from a guy who has had people trying to kill him off and on for over 35 years..... :45: The only thing a government can ever be counted on for, is to fail. I want them to spend the tax money they extort from us to secure our rights, but I don't really expect them to...... and I have plans for that, just like I do for everything else.
PACE
Primary
Alternate
Contingency
Emergency



It took them most of human history and the Holocaust to figure that out, but the Jews finally learned that hard lesson.
slavery didn't begin in America, and the fabulous dutch continue to enjoy the fabulous fruits of the and comfort and peace paid for by the stupid American taxpayers of money of military.

socialism is great if you're friends with the gullable Americans

and the fuckin' swiss world leeches "oh we're neutral"...
yeah we'll see when putin breaks thru your miserable door.

biden will protect your cowardiss country.

President Trump won't... me too
 
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just imagining how the actual process would begin.
so far its political bluster. but communism is chipping away at democracy. other things constitutional are melting in the fakenews winds of liberal hysteria.
obama changed the constitution.

fake news is the enemy of conservative America.
journalism will make a fabulous comeback.

do they have a ... "plan" for rounding up ar 15's

i still need mine, so im keeping it (them)..
Hilarious. Are you a criminal, underaged or insane ? If not, you have nothing to worry about. And, if you are but don’t commit any more crimes, you can probably keep the ones you have. Like, if I were you, I wouldn’t storm the capital anytime soon.
Scary - huh?

Grown men, strangers, wonder onto the internet pretending a plot to attack something they proport to love (albeit a something that is sick and in need of surgery which they are qualified to perform).

Scarier still is the math; given enough instances of this kind of comic drama, the worst is bound to happen. Witness Jan 6, and the deadly but almost childlike insurrection. Good grief.
What's scary, is that someone like you who has an absolutely infantile grasp of reality, is walking around without a minder.
Your post has absolutely nothing to do with a topic other than me. It's an ad hominem, a personal attack and it bores me.
Then by your own standards, your post is an ad hominem as it had nothing to do with the topic. LMAO, you morons are too much.
My reply addressed the nature of ad hominems and my boredom with them. I attacked what the poster said just as I will in citing the adolescent use of the word "moron".
And the truth hurts, eh? BTW, that is another off topic post. So take your hypocritical pompous ass down the road you arrogant bastard--now you've really been schooled in adolescent vocabulary--which is also off topic.
You are off topic.
Wow, You are amazingly quick on the uptake after being told three times to "STAY ON TOPIC" and that makes four, thread hijacking is frowned upon here.
I engage what is put before me though sometimes making a poor choice.
... how would biden take my guns. ...
My father - he may rest in peace in the arms of god - had taken your gun, had put it on a choppin block and had made scrap and firewood out of it. This he made with all guns someone gave him. And I'm able to imagine that thousands - perhaps even millions - of your people would be much more happy now, if they also had done so in good time.
dejd
... how would biden take my guns. ...
My father - he may rest in peace in the arms of god - had taken your gun, had put it on a choppin block and had made scrap and firewood out of it. This he made with all guns someone gave him. And I'm able to imagine that thousands - perhaps even millions - of your people would be much more happy now, if they also had done so in good time.
define happy ?
Eh? Alcohol, drugs, weapons ... all this things make unhappy. Guns are a waste of time, a waste of money, a waste of energy and guns are damned dangerous - specially for the own life and family. Better to waste money, time and energy by learning and reading books. Books make competent and happy.

what about happiness is a warm gun ?
the gun is my best friend, rural vermont demands self protection, the last time i dialed 911 it took 45 minutes for the state police to arrive, sheriff response is longer.. those are the people we have to call.
Buy an axe. And latest when you will nail some heads of your enemies over the front door of your house everyone will know that you need no one's help. ... Oh damn. Wrong country. Wrong century. - Germany some thousand years ago. Forget this advice. Today all German policemen together (~ 250,000 men and women) have to shoot less than 100 times a year - including warn shots - and less than 10 people have to die a year. And nearly never a policeman is losing the own life. So you see: There are real ways far from all forms of paranoia and wrong heroism.
History has shown how nazis like using guns
History shows that US-Americans have not a big idea about "Nazis" - and try to hide a lot of the own historical wrongdoings by using this word.


ok adolph no rewrite of your nazi history
Always nice to speak with idiots like you, who still live in 1945 in an aeroplane, which fires on innocent refugees. When will you start to be born and to live your own life?
thing is you nazis never went away you just try to rewrite history to make it look like you did.
Okay. Let me inform you that you call someone "Nazi", who lost a big part of his family in the holocaust on his own and you are on the way to get tough problems with god personally.

one of the saddest things i've ever heard is "that's why i don't have any aunt's or uncle's". six million innocent people exterminated. my God, the horror of that gets diluted generationally.
that could not happen in America, we know why.
The Nazis made the first racist law against Jews in 1935. And no one in the world protested because everywhere all over the world existed racist laws. No one thought such things are possible in Germany. The racism in Germany was by the way a very special form of racism: The Nazis needed a marker to be able to see a difference between Jews and other Germans. For me personally the holocaust it not a genocide - it's a fratricide for me.

And what could not happen in the USA? ... Ward Churchill for example said it existed 12 million Red Indians in the year 1500 in Northamerica. In 1900 still existed only 237,000 descendants of them. Worldwide the population grew about 1.5-2 times during this time. So 237,000 are only about 0.65%. In 1694 in Massachusetts for example they made a price for scalps of Red Indians - in 1704 they stopped to pay the price for children under 10 - later they stopped to pay for children under 12 years. ...

But back to the Nazis: In general the Nazis were so damned good with their brainwashing political propaganda that much to many totally normal and intelligent people with a very good education were really convinced that it is good to wipe out all Jews, because Jews are dangerous for Germans - while indeed the Jews in Germany had been nothing else than Germans like all others.
Just a guess but you appear to be working hard at what is not your native tongue. And you are doing a good job. I very much enjoyed your post.

I'm not sure but seem to recall that the initial Nazi Gun Laws exclusively targeted the Jewish People.

Actually, the initial gun laws were created in 1920s........the German government wanted to register guns....so they could make sure bad people didn't get them.....sound familiar? The communists and national socialists were fighting each other.....and to crack down on the violent street fights and shootings......they wanted to register guns....

The German people were told that strict measures would be in place to keep the records of gun ownership safe...

The first thing the national socialists did when they took control was to use the registration records from the 1920s to disarm Jews and their political enemies....

This is why we will always oppose any attempt to register American guns...
I could make an argument of your need to oppose registration of firearms (starting with this isn't Nazi Germany).

Instead, I'll back off and say thank you for the history lesson.

Nazi Germany wasn't nazi Germany in the 1920s either.........in less than 20 years they went from Weimar Germany to death camps.....and they first registered guns....then the nazis banned and confiscated them.
Yes, I 'm familiar with the Deutshe Reich (commonly, the Weimar Republic); read a whole book on it many years ago.

A lot of people are using the German Gun Laws as an analogy to the US. They might want to take a look at another analogy, that being how quickly an intelligent population and constitutional democracy fell prey to a demagogue.
In a dictatorship, people who criticize the dictator tend to have bad things happen to them. Almost half the people and 99% of the media shit on Trump for years and nothing happened to any of them.
But what happens to folks who get on the establishment's shit list? Investigation's by everyone from the FBI to the IRS, loss of employment, media hit pieces, persecution, prosecution, "cancel culture" swarms, Twitter mobs,etc.


Trump was never the problem.
Seriously, what happens to virtually anyone who crosses Trump. Pence, Cohen, Haley, McCarthy, Barr, Sessions and how many Secretary's of Defense can we count.

Trump is reaping what he has sown. Brace yourself, it's going to get worse with little if any of it coming from the WH or the Justice Department
It's going to get a lot worse all right...... you ever seen a civil war? Ever been to a country that's in one, or just finished one?

I have, more than one.
And none those countries had anywhere near as many armed people as we do here.
It's going to be really bad.
Really bad for who?
Probably you, it's a little tough to run with a walker.
Mine's motorized due to something I brought home from Nam.

Yours?
Well then you answered your own question--it would be bad for you, like I said.
I appreciate your concern, but what I really wanted to hear, was where you were in SE Asia?
 

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just imagining how the actual process would begin.
so far its political bluster. but communism is chipping away at democracy. other things constitutional are melting in the fakenews winds of liberal hysteria.
obama changed the constitution.

fake news is the enemy of conservative America.
journalism will make a fabulous comeback.

do they have a ... "plan" for rounding up ar 15's

i still need mine, so im keeping it (them)..
Hilarious. Are you a criminal, underaged or insane ? If not, you have nothing to worry about. And, if you are but don’t commit any more crimes, you can probably keep the ones you have. Like, if I were you, I wouldn’t storm the capital anytime soon.
Scary - huh?

Grown men, strangers, wonder onto the internet pretending a plot to attack something they proport to love (albeit a something that is sick and in need of surgery which they are qualified to perform).

Scarier still is the math; given enough instances of this kind of comic drama, the worst is bound to happen. Witness Jan 6, and the deadly but almost childlike insurrection. Good grief.
What's scary, is that someone like you who has an absolutely infantile grasp of reality, is walking around without a minder.
Your post has absolutely nothing to do with a topic other than me. It's an ad hominem, a personal attack and it bores me.
Then by your own standards, your post is an ad hominem as it had nothing to do with the topic. LMAO, you morons are too much.
My reply addressed the nature of ad hominems and my boredom with them. I attacked what the poster said just as I will in citing the adolescent use of the word "moron".
And the truth hurts, eh? BTW, that is another off topic post. So take your hypocritical pompous ass down the road you arrogant bastard--now you've really been schooled in adolescent vocabulary--which is also off topic.
You are off topic.
Wow, You are amazingly quick on the uptake after being told three times to "STAY ON TOPIC" and that makes four, thread hijacking is frowned upon here.
I engage what is put before me though sometimes making a poor choice.
... how would biden take my guns. ...
My father - he may rest in peace in the arms of god - had taken your gun, had put it on a choppin block and had made scrap and firewood out of it. This he made with all guns someone gave him. And I'm able to imagine that thousands - perhaps even millions - of your people would be much more happy now, if they also had done so in good time.
dejd
... how would biden take my guns. ...
My father - he may rest in peace in the arms of god - had taken your gun, had put it on a choppin block and had made scrap and firewood out of it. This he made with all guns someone gave him. And I'm able to imagine that thousands - perhaps even millions - of your people would be much more happy now, if they also had done so in good time.
define happy ?
Eh? Alcohol, drugs, weapons ... all this things make unhappy. Guns are a waste of time, a waste of money, a waste of energy and guns are damned dangerous - specially for the own life and family. Better to waste money, time and energy by learning and reading books. Books make competent and happy.

what about happiness is a warm gun ?
the gun is my best friend, rural vermont demands self protection, the last time i dialed 911 it took 45 minutes for the state police to arrive, sheriff response is longer.. those are the people we have to call.
Buy an axe. And latest when you will nail some heads of your enemies over the front door of your house everyone will know that you need no one's help. ... Oh damn. Wrong country. Wrong century. - Germany some thousand years ago. Forget this advice. Today all German policemen together (~ 250,000 men and women) have to shoot less than 100 times a year - including warn shots - and less than 10 people have to die a year. And nearly never a policeman is losing the own life. So you see: There are real ways far from all forms of paranoia and wrong heroism.
History has shown how nazis like using guns
History shows that US-Americans have not a big idea about "Nazis" - and try to hide a lot of the own historical wrongdoings by using this word.


ok adolph no rewrite of your nazi history
Always nice to speak with idiots like you, who still live in 1945 in an aeroplane, which fires on innocent refugees. When will you start to be born and to live your own life?
thing is you nazis never went away you just try to rewrite history to make it look like you did.
Okay. Let me inform you that you call someone "Nazi", who lost a big part of his family in the holocaust on his own and you are on the way to get tough problems with god personally.

one of the saddest things i've ever heard is "that's why i don't have any aunt's or uncle's". six million innocent people exterminated. my God, the horror of that gets diluted generationally.
that could not happen in America, we know why.
The Nazis made the first racist law against Jews in 1935. And no one in the world protested because everywhere all over the world existed racist laws. No one thought such things are possible in Germany. The racism in Germany was by the way a very special form of racism: The Nazis needed a marker to be able to see a difference between Jews and other Germans. For me personally the holocaust it not a genocide - it's a fratricide for me.

And what could not happen in the USA? ... Ward Churchill for example said it existed 12 million Red Indians in the year 1500 in Northamerica. In 1900 still existed only 237,000 descendants of them. Worldwide the population grew about 1.5-2 times during this time. So 237,000 are only about 0.65%. In 1694 in Massachusetts for example they made a price for scalps of Red Indians - in 1704 they stopped to pay the price for children under 10 - later they stopped to pay for children under 12 years. ...

But back to the Nazis: In general the Nazis were so damned good with their brainwashing political propaganda that much to many totally normal and intelligent people with a very good education were really convinced that it is good to wipe out all Jews, because Jews are dangerous for Germans - while indeed the Jews in Germany had been nothing else than Germans like all others.
Just a guess but you appear to be working hard at what is not your native tongue. And you are doing a good job. I very much enjoyed your post.

I'm not sure but seem to recall that the initial Nazi Gun Laws exclusively targeted the Jewish People.

Actually, the initial gun laws were created in 1920s........the German government wanted to register guns....so they could make sure bad people didn't get them.....sound familiar? The communists and national socialists were fighting each other.....and to crack down on the violent street fights and shootings......they wanted to register guns....

The German people were told that strict measures would be in place to keep the records of gun ownership safe...

The first thing the national socialists did when they took control was to use the registration records from the 1920s to disarm Jews and their political enemies....

This is why we will always oppose any attempt to register American guns...
I could make an argument of your need to oppose registration of firearms (starting with this isn't Nazi Germany).

Instead, I'll back off and say thank you for the history lesson.

Nazi Germany wasn't nazi Germany in the 1920s either.........in less than 20 years they went from Weimar Germany to death camps.....and they first registered guns....then the nazis banned and confiscated them.
Yes, I 'm familiar with the Deutshe Reich (commonly, the Weimar Republic); read a whole book on it many years ago.

A lot of people are using the German Gun Laws as an analogy to the US. They might want to take a look at another analogy, that being how quickly an intelligent population and constitutional democracy fell prey to a demagogue.
In a dictatorship, people who criticize the dictator tend to have bad things happen to them. Almost half the people and 99% of the media shit on Trump for years and nothing happened to any of them.
But what happens to folks who get on the establishment's shit list? Investigation's by everyone from the FBI to the IRS, loss of employment, media hit pieces, persecution, prosecution, "cancel culture" swarms, Twitter mobs,etc.


Trump was never the problem.
Seriously, what happens to virtually anyone who crosses Trump. Pence, Cohen, Haley, McCarthy, Barr, Sessions and how many Secretary's of Defense can we count.

Trump is reaping what he has sown. Brace yourself, it's going to get worse with little if any of it coming from the WH or the Justice Department
It's going to get a lot worse all right...... you ever seen a civil war? Ever been to a country that's in one, or just finished one?

I have, more than one.
And none those countries had anywhere near as many armed people as we do here.
It's going to be really bad.
Really bad for who?
Probably you, it's a little tough to run with a walker.
Mine's motorized due to something I brought home from Nam.

Yours?
Well then you answered your own question--it would be bad for you, like I said.
I appreciate your concern, but what I really wanted to hear, was where you were in SE Asia?
Danang, HQ, 1stMarDiv. 70.
 

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nancy pelosi just pulled WashingtonAmerica.Com
off the internet... how the fuck did she get that powerful ? this is nuts...
Really? And just what evidence do you have that Nancy Pelosi knows about or cares about your personal website? I've seen your rule-violating plugs here and I've never been to your site and have no interest or intention. I'm pretty sure Nancy Pelosi, Donald Trump, and most of the rest of the world feel the same.
 

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just imagining how the actual process would begin.
so far its political bluster. but communism is chipping away at democracy. other things constitutional are melting in the fakenews winds of liberal hysteria.
obama changed the constitution.

fake news is the enemy of conservative America.
journalism will make a fabulous comeback.

do they have a ... "plan" for rounding up ar 15's

i still need mine, so im keeping it (them)..
Hilarious. Are you a criminal, underaged or insane ? If not, you have nothing to worry about. And, if you are but don’t commit any more crimes, you can probably keep the ones you have. Like, if I were you, I wouldn’t storm the capital anytime soon.
Scary - huh?

Grown men, strangers, wonder onto the internet pretending a plot to attack something they proport to love (albeit a something that is sick and in need of surgery which they are qualified to perform).

Scarier still is the math; given enough instances of this kind of comic drama, the worst is bound to happen. Witness Jan 6, and the deadly but almost childlike insurrection. Good grief.
What's scary, is that someone like you who has an absolutely infantile grasp of reality, is walking around without a minder.
Your post has absolutely nothing to do with a topic other than me. It's an ad hominem, a personal attack and it bores me.
Then by your own standards, your post is an ad hominem as it had nothing to do with the topic. LMAO, you morons are too much.
My reply addressed the nature of ad hominems and my boredom with them. I attacked what the poster said just as I will in citing the adolescent use of the word "moron".
And the truth hurts, eh? BTW, that is another off topic post. So take your hypocritical pompous ass down the road you arrogant bastard--now you've really been schooled in adolescent vocabulary--which is also off topic.
You are off topic.
Wow, You are amazingly quick on the uptake after being told three times to "STAY ON TOPIC" and that makes four, thread hijacking is frowned upon here.
I engage what is put before me though sometimes making a poor choice.
... how would biden take my guns. ...
My father - he may rest in peace in the arms of god - had taken your gun, had put it on a choppin block and had made scrap and firewood out of it. This he made with all guns someone gave him. And I'm able to imagine that thousands - perhaps even millions - of your people would be much more happy now, if they also had done so in good time.
dejd
... how would biden take my guns. ...
My father - he may rest in peace in the arms of god - had taken your gun, had put it on a choppin block and had made scrap and firewood out of it. This he made with all guns someone gave him. And I'm able to imagine that thousands - perhaps even millions - of your people would be much more happy now, if they also had done so in good time.
define happy ?
Eh? Alcohol, drugs, weapons ... all this things make unhappy. Guns are a waste of time, a waste of money, a waste of energy and guns are damned dangerous - specially for the own life and family. Better to waste money, time and energy by learning and reading books. Books make competent and happy.

what about happiness is a warm gun ?
the gun is my best friend, rural vermont demands self protection, the last time i dialed 911 it took 45 minutes for the state police to arrive, sheriff response is longer.. those are the people we have to call.
Buy an axe. And latest when you will nail some heads of your enemies over the front door of your house everyone will know that you need no one's help. ... Oh damn. Wrong country. Wrong century. - Germany some thousand years ago. Forget this advice. Today all German policemen together (~ 250,000 men and women) have to shoot less than 100 times a year - including warn shots - and less than 10 people have to die a year. And nearly never a policeman is losing the own life. So you see: There are real ways far from all forms of paranoia and wrong heroism.
History has shown how nazis like using guns
History shows that US-Americans have not a big idea about "Nazis" - and try to hide a lot of the own historical wrongdoings by using this word.


ok adolph no rewrite of your nazi history
Always nice to speak with idiots like you, who still live in 1945 in an aeroplane, which fires on innocent refugees. When will you start to be born and to live your own life?
thing is you nazis never went away you just try to rewrite history to make it look like you did.
Okay. Let me inform you that you call someone "Nazi", who lost a big part of his family in the holocaust on his own and you are on the way to get tough problems with god personally.

one of the saddest things i've ever heard is "that's why i don't have any aunt's or uncle's". six million innocent people exterminated. my God, the horror of that gets diluted generationally.
that could not happen in America, we know why.
The Nazis made the first racist law against Jews in 1935. And no one in the world protested because everywhere all over the world existed racist laws. No one thought such things are possible in Germany. The racism in Germany was by the way a very special form of racism: The Nazis needed a marker to be able to see a difference between Jews and other Germans. For me personally the holocaust it not a genocide - it's a fratricide for me.

And what could not happen in the USA? ... Ward Churchill for example said it existed 12 million Red Indians in the year 1500 in Northamerica. In 1900 still existed only 237,000 descendants of them. Worldwide the population grew about 1.5-2 times during this time. So 237,000 are only about 0.65%. In 1694 in Massachusetts for example they made a price for scalps of Red Indians - in 1704 they stopped to pay the price for children under 10 - later they stopped to pay for children under 12 years. ...

But back to the Nazis: In general the Nazis were so damned good with their brainwashing political propaganda that much to many totally normal and intelligent people with a very good education were really convinced that it is good to wipe out all Jews, because Jews are dangerous for Germans - while indeed the Jews in Germany had been nothing else than Germans like all others.
Just a guess but you appear to be working hard at what is not your native tongue. And you are doing a good job. I very much enjoyed your post.

I'm not sure but seem to recall that the initial Nazi Gun Laws exclusively targeted the Jewish People.

Actually, the initial gun laws were created in 1920s........the German government wanted to register guns....so they could make sure bad people didn't get them.....sound familiar? The communists and national socialists were fighting each other.....and to crack down on the violent street fights and shootings......they wanted to register guns....

The German people were told that strict measures would be in place to keep the records of gun ownership safe...

The first thing the national socialists did when they took control was to use the registration records from the 1920s to disarm Jews and their political enemies....

This is why we will always oppose any attempt to register American guns...
I could make an argument of your need to oppose registration of firearms (starting with this isn't Nazi Germany).

Instead, I'll back off and say thank you for the history lesson.

Nazi Germany wasn't nazi Germany in the 1920s either.........in less than 20 years they went from Weimar Germany to death camps.....and they first registered guns....then the nazis banned and confiscated them.
Yes, I 'm familiar with the Deutshe Reich (commonly, the Weimar Republic); read a whole book on it many years ago.

A lot of people are using the German Gun Laws as an analogy to the US. They might want to take a look at another analogy, that being how quickly an intelligent population and constitutional democracy fell prey to a demagogue.
In a dictatorship, people who criticize the dictator tend to have bad things happen to them. Almost half the people and 99% of the media shit on Trump for years and nothing happened to any of them.
But what happens to folks who get on the establishment's shit list? Investigation's by everyone from the FBI to the IRS, loss of employment, media hit pieces, persecution, prosecution, "cancel culture" swarms, Twitter mobs,etc.


Trump was never the problem.
Seriously, what happens to virtually anyone who crosses Trump. Pence, Cohen, Haley, McCarthy, Barr, Sessions and how many Secretary's of Defense can we count.

Trump is reaping what he has sown. Brace yourself, it's going to get worse with little if any of it coming from the WH or the Justice Department
It's going to get a lot worse all right...... you ever seen a civil war? Ever been to a country that's in one, or just finished one?

I have, more than one.
And none those countries had anywhere near as many armed people as we do here.
It's going to be really bad.
Really bad for who?
Probably you, it's a little tough to run with a walker.
Mine's motorized due to something I brought home from Nam.

Yours?
Well then you answered your own question--it would be bad for you, like I said.
I appreciate your concern, but what I really wanted to hear, was where you were in SE Asia?
Danang, HQ, 1stMarDiv. 70.
Thanks for the reply.

Small World. I spent a week at a transit station in Danang just days after the Tet Offensive. Then was shipped south to Chu Lai, 71st Assault Helicopter Co. Ten months later I transferred to the Americal Division of My Lai Infame.

You are right, it sucked. I can still remember how a ship smelled after carrying dead bodies in from some shithole fire base. Not one fucking Republican or Democrat among them, just dead American Boys.
 

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... how would biden take my guns. ...
My father - he may rest in peace in the arms of god - had taken your gun, had put it on a choppin block and had made scrap and firewood out of it. This he made with all guns someone gave him. And I'm able to imagine that thousands - perhaps even millions - of your people would be much more happy now, if they also had done so in good time.
dejd
... how would biden take my guns. ...
My father - he may rest in peace in the arms of god - had taken your gun, had put it on a choppin block and had made scrap and firewood out of it. This he made with all guns someone gave him. And I'm able to imagine that thousands - perhaps even millions - of your people would be much more happy now, if they also had done so in good time.
define happy ?
Eh? Alcohol, drugs, weapons ... all this things make unhappy. Guns are a waste of time, a waste of money, a waste of energy and guns are damned dangerous - specially for the own life and family. Better to waste money, time and energy by learning and reading books. Books make competent and happy.

what about happiness is a warm gun ?
the gun is my best friend, rural vermont demands self protection, the last time i dialed 911 it took 45 minutes for the state police to arrive, sheriff response is longer.. those are the people we have to call.
Buy an axe. And latest when you will nail some heads of your enemies over the front door of your house everyone will know that you need no one's help. ... Oh damn. Wrong country. Wrong century. - Germany some thousand years ago. Forget this advice. Today all German policemen together (~ 250,000 men and women) have to shoot less than 100 times a year - including warn shots - and less than 10 people have to die a year. And nearly never a policeman is losing the own life. So you see: There are real ways far from all forms of paranoia and wrong heroism.
History has shown how nazis like using guns
History shows that US-Americans have not a big idea about "Nazis" - and try to hide a lot of the own historical wrongdoings by using this word.


ok adolph no rewrite of your nazi history
Always nice to speak with idiots like you, who still live in 1945 in an aeroplane, which fires on innocent refugees. When will you start to be born and to live your own life?
thing is you nazis never went away you just try to rewrite history to make it look like you did.
Okay. Let me inform you that you call someone "Nazi", who lost a big part of his family in the holocaust on his own and you are on the way to get tough problems with god personally.

one of the saddest things i've ever heard is "that's why i don't have any aunt's or uncle's". six million innocent people exterminated. my God, the horror of that gets diluted generationally.
that could not happen in America, we know why.
The Nazis made the first racist law against Jews in 1935. And no one in the world protested because everywhere all over the world existed racist laws. No one thought such things are possible in Germany. The racism in Germany was by the way a very special form of racism: The Nazis needed a marker to be able to see a difference between Jews and other Germans. For me personally the holocaust it not a genocide - it's a fratricide for me.

And what could not happen in the USA? ... Ward Churchill for example said it existed 12 million Red Indians in the year 1500 in Northamerica. In 1900 still existed only 237,000 descendants of them. Worldwide the population grew about 1.5-2 times during this time. So 237,000 are only about 0.65%. In 1694 in Massachusetts for example they made a price for scalps of Red Indians - in 1704 they stopped to pay the price for children under 10 - later they stopped to pay for children under 12 years. ...

But back to the Nazis: In general the Nazis were so damned good with their brainwashing political propaganda that much to many totally normal and intelligent people with a very good education were really convinced that it is good to wipe out all Jews, because Jews are dangerous for Germans - while indeed the Jews in Germany had been nothing else than Germans like all others.

You really shouldn't mention Ward Churchhill...he has been exposed as a fake and a fraud...

And American Indians died from disease, not genocide.
Then let me make an own calculation. Today live about 7 billion people on planet Earth. About 350 millions of them live in the scarcely populated half-continent Northamerica. That's about 5% of the world population. When Jesus was living it lived about 300 million human beings on planet Earth. In 1800 it were 500 million. This growth was relativelly linear before it grew to become hyperbolic during industrialisation. So I estimate in 1500 lived about 5/6 of the population of the year 1800 on planet Earth. This are about 400 millions. 5% from 400 millions are 20 millions. Ward Churchill says 12 milions. That's about 50% from my estimation here, because I always rounded down. So I would say what Mr. Ward Churchill said seems to be very plausible.

And if I hear you next using the words "fake" and "fraud" without any concrete background, then I will go into the next toy store, will buy a heavy toy-gun and will shoot a chewing gum on the forehead of every "frauder and faker". And I will do so "frisch, fromm, fröhlich und frei" (= fresh, pious, joyful and free).

 
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just imagining how the actual process would begin.
so far its political bluster. but communism is chipping away at democracy. other things constitutional are melting in the fakenews winds of liberal hysteria.
obama changed the constitution.

fake news is the enemy of conservative America.
journalism will make a fabulous comeback.

do they have a ... "plan" for rounding up ar 15's

i still need mine, so im keeping it (them)..
Hilarious. Are you a criminal, underaged or insane ? If not, you have nothing to worry about. And, if you are but don’t commit any more crimes, you can probably keep the ones you have. Like, if I were you, I wouldn’t storm the capital anytime soon.
Scary - huh?

Grown men, strangers, wonder onto the internet pretending a plot to attack something they proport to love (albeit a something that is sick and in need of surgery which they are qualified to perform).

Scarier still is the math; given enough instances of this kind of comic drama, the worst is bound to happen. Witness Jan 6, and the deadly but almost childlike insurrection. Good grief.
What's scary, is that someone like you who has an absolutely infantile grasp of reality, is walking around without a minder.
Your post has absolutely nothing to do with a topic other than me. It's an ad hominem, a personal attack and it bores me.
Then by your own standards, your post is an ad hominem as it had nothing to do with the topic. LMAO, you morons are too much.
My reply addressed the nature of ad hominems and my boredom with them. I attacked what the poster said just as I will in citing the adolescent use of the word "moron".
And the truth hurts, eh? BTW, that is another off topic post. So take your hypocritical pompous ass down the road you arrogant bastard--now you've really been schooled in adolescent vocabulary--which is also off topic.
You are off topic.
Wow, You are amazingly quick on the uptake after being told three times to "STAY ON TOPIC" and that makes four, thread hijacking is frowned upon here.
I engage what is put before me though sometimes making a poor choice.
... how would biden take my guns. ...
My father - he may rest in peace in the arms of god - had taken your gun, had put it on a choppin block and had made scrap and firewood out of it. This he made with all guns someone gave him. And I'm able to imagine that thousands - perhaps even millions - of your people would be much more happy now, if they also had done so in good time.
dejd
... how would biden take my guns. ...
My father - he may rest in peace in the arms of god - had taken your gun, had put it on a choppin block and had made scrap and firewood out of it. This he made with all guns someone gave him. And I'm able to imagine that thousands - perhaps even millions - of your people would be much more happy now, if they also had done so in good time.
define happy ?
Eh? Alcohol, drugs, weapons ... all this things make unhappy. Guns are a waste of time, a waste of money, a waste of energy and guns are damned dangerous - specially for the own life and family. Better to waste money, time and energy by learning and reading books. Books make competent and happy.

what about happiness is a warm gun ?
the gun is my best friend, rural vermont demands self protection, the last time i dialed 911 it took 45 minutes for the state police to arrive, sheriff response is longer.. those are the people we have to call.
Buy an axe. And latest when you will nail some heads of your enemies over the front door of your house everyone will know that you need no one's help. ... Oh damn. Wrong country. Wrong century. - Germany some thousand years ago. Forget this advice. Today all German policemen together (~ 250,000 men and women) have to shoot less than 100 times a year - including warn shots - and less than 10 people have to die a year. And nearly never a policeman is losing the own life. So you see: There are real ways far from all forms of paranoia and wrong heroism.
History has shown how nazis like using guns
History shows that US-Americans have not a big idea about "Nazis" - and try to hide a lot of the own historical wrongdoings by using this word.


ok adolph no rewrite of your nazi history
Always nice to speak with idiots like you, who still live in 1945 in an aeroplane, which fires on innocent refugees. When will you start to be born and to live your own life?
thing is you nazis never went away you just try to rewrite history to make it look like you did.
Okay. Let me inform you that you call someone "Nazi", who lost a big part of his family in the holocaust on his own and you are on the way to get tough problems with god personally.

one of the saddest things i've ever heard is "that's why i don't have any aunt's or uncle's". six million innocent people exterminated. my God, the horror of that gets diluted generationally.
that could not happen in America, we know why.
The Nazis made the first racist law against Jews in 1935. And no one in the world protested because everywhere all over the world existed racist laws. No one thought such things are possible in Germany. The racism in Germany was by the way a very special form of racism: The Nazis needed a marker to be able to see a difference between Jews and other Germans. For me personally the holocaust it not a genocide - it's a fratricide for me.

And what could not happen in the USA? ... Ward Churchill for example said it existed 12 million Red Indians in the year 1500 in Northamerica. In 1900 still existed only 237,000 descendants of them. Worldwide the population grew about 1.5-2 times during this time. So 237,000 are only about 0.65%. In 1694 in Massachusetts for example they made a price for scalps of Red Indians - in 1704 they stopped to pay the price for children under 10 - later they stopped to pay for children under 12 years. ...

But back to the Nazis: In general the Nazis were so damned good with their brainwashing political propaganda that much to many totally normal and intelligent people with a very good education were really convinced that it is good to wipe out all Jews, because Jews are dangerous for Germans - while indeed the Jews in Germany had been nothing else than Germans like all others.
Just a guess but you appear to be working hard at what is not your native tongue. And you are doing a good job. I very much enjoyed your post.

I'm not sure but seem to recall that the initial Nazi Gun Laws exclusively targeted the Jewish People.

Actually, the initial gun laws were created in 1920s........the German government wanted to register guns....so they could make sure bad people didn't get them.....sound familiar? The communists and national socialists were fighting each other.....and to crack down on the violent street fights and shootings......they wanted to register guns....

The German people were told that strict measures would be in place to keep the records of gun ownership safe...

The first thing the national socialists did when they took control was to use the registration records from the 1920s to disarm Jews and their political enemies....

This is why we will always oppose any attempt to register American guns...
I could make an argument of your need to oppose registration of firearms (starting with this isn't Nazi Germany).

Instead, I'll back off and say thank you for the history lesson.

Nazi Germany wasn't nazi Germany in the 1920s either.........in less than 20 years they went from Weimar Germany to death camps.....and they first registered guns....then the nazis banned and confiscated them.
Yes, I 'm familiar with the Deutshe Reich (commonly, the Weimar Republic); read a whole book on it many years ago.

A lot of people are using the German Gun Laws as an analogy to the US. They might want to take a look at another analogy, that being how quickly an intelligent population and constitutional democracy fell prey to a demagogue.
In a dictatorship, people who criticize the dictator tend to have bad things happen to them. Almost half the people and 99% of the media shit on Trump for years and nothing happened to any of them.
But what happens to folks who get on the establishment's shit list? Investigation's by everyone from the FBI to the IRS, loss of employment, media hit pieces, persecution, prosecution, "cancel culture" swarms, Twitter mobs,etc.


Trump was never the problem.
Seriously, what happens to virtually anyone who crosses Trump. Pence, Cohen, Haley, McCarthy, Barr, Sessions and how many Secretary's of Defense can we count.

Trump is reaping what he has sown. Brace yourself, it's going to get worse with little if any of it coming from the WH or the Justice Department
It's going to get a lot worse all right...... you ever seen a civil war? Ever been to a country that's in one, or just finished one?

I have, more than one.
And none those countries had anywhere near as many armed people as we do here.
It's going to be really bad.
the problem that I foresee is this civil war will not be, state against state it will be neighbor against neighbor
 
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just imagining how the actual process would begin.
so far its political bluster. but communism is chipping away at democracy. other things constitutional are melting in the fakenews winds of liberal hysteria.
obama changed the constitution.

fake news is the enemy of conservative America.
journalism will make a fabulous comeback.

do they have a ... "plan" for rounding up ar 15's

i still need mine, so im keeping it (them)..
Hilarious. Are you a criminal, underaged or insane ? If not, you have nothing to worry about. And, if you are but don’t commit any more crimes, you can probably keep the ones you have. Like, if I were you, I wouldn’t storm the capital anytime soon.
Scary - huh?

Grown men, strangers, wonder onto the internet pretending a plot to attack something they proport to love (albeit a something that is sick and in need of surgery which they are qualified to perform).

Scarier still is the math; given enough instances of this kind of comic drama, the worst is bound to happen. Witness Jan 6, and the deadly but almost childlike insurrection. Good grief.
What's scary, is that someone like you who has an absolutely infantile grasp of reality, is walking around without a minder.
Your post has absolutely nothing to do with a topic other than me. It's an ad hominem, a personal attack and it bores me.
Then by your own standards, your post is an ad hominem as it had nothing to do with the topic. LMAO, you morons are too much.
My reply addressed the nature of ad hominems and my boredom with them. I attacked what the poster said just as I will in citing the adolescent use of the word "moron".
And the truth hurts, eh? BTW, that is another off topic post. So take your hypocritical pompous ass down the road you arrogant bastard--now you've really been schooled in adolescent vocabulary--which is also off topic.
You are off topic.
Wow, You are amazingly quick on the uptake after being told three times to "STAY ON TOPIC" and that makes four, thread hijacking is frowned upon here.
I engage what is put before me though sometimes making a poor choice.
... how would biden take my guns. ...
My father - he may rest in peace in the arms of god - had taken your gun, had put it on a choppin block and had made scrap and firewood out of it. This he made with all guns someone gave him. And I'm able to imagine that thousands - perhaps even millions - of your people would be much more happy now, if they also had done so in good time.
dejd
... how would biden take my guns. ...
My father - he may rest in peace in the arms of god - had taken your gun, had put it on a choppin block and had made scrap and firewood out of it. This he made with all guns someone gave him. And I'm able to imagine that thousands - perhaps even millions - of your people would be much more happy now, if they also had done so in good time.
define happy ?
Eh? Alcohol, drugs, weapons ... all this things make unhappy. Guns are a waste of time, a waste of money, a waste of energy and guns are damned dangerous - specially for the own life and family. Better to waste money, time and energy by learning and reading books. Books make competent and happy.

what about happiness is a warm gun ?
the gun is my best friend, rural vermont demands self protection, the last time i dialed 911 it took 45 minutes for the state police to arrive, sheriff response is longer.. those are the people we have to call.
Buy an axe. And latest when you will nail some heads of your enemies over the front door of your house everyone will know that you need no one's help. ... Oh damn. Wrong country. Wrong century. - Germany some thousand years ago. Forget this advice. Today all German policemen together (~ 250,000 men and women) have to shoot less than 100 times a year - including warn shots - and less than 10 people have to die a year. And nearly never a policeman is losing the own life. So you see: There are real ways far from all forms of paranoia and wrong heroism.
History has shown how nazis like using guns
History shows that US-Americans have not a big idea about "Nazis" - and try to hide a lot of the own historical wrongdoings by using this word.


ok adolph no rewrite of your nazi history
Always nice to speak with idiots like you, who still live in 1945 in an aeroplane, which fires on innocent refugees. When will you start to be born and to live your own life?
thing is you nazis never went away you just try to rewrite history to make it look like you did.
Okay. Let me inform you that you call someone "Nazi", who lost a big part of his family in the holocaust on his own and you are on the way to get tough problems with god personally.

one of the saddest things i've ever heard is "that's why i don't have any aunt's or uncle's". six million innocent people exterminated. my God, the horror of that gets diluted generationally.
that could not happen in America, we know why.
The Nazis made the first racist law against Jews in 1935. And no one in the world protested because everywhere all over the world existed racist laws. No one thought such things are possible in Germany. The racism in Germany was by the way a very special form of racism: The Nazis needed a marker to be able to see a difference between Jews and other Germans. For me personally the holocaust it not a genocide - it's a fratricide for me.

And what could not happen in the USA? ... Ward Churchill for example said it existed 12 million Red Indians in the year 1500 in Northamerica. In 1900 still existed only 237,000 descendants of them. Worldwide the population grew about 1.5-2 times during this time. So 237,000 are only about 0.65%. In 1694 in Massachusetts for example they made a price for scalps of Red Indians - in 1704 they stopped to pay the price for children under 10 - later they stopped to pay for children under 12 years. ...

But back to the Nazis: In general the Nazis were so damned good with their brainwashing political propaganda that much to many totally normal and intelligent people with a very good education were really convinced that it is good to wipe out all Jews, because Jews are dangerous for Germans - while indeed the Jews in Germany had been nothing else than Germans like all others.
Just a guess but you appear to be working hard at what is not your native tongue. And you are doing a good job. I very much enjoyed your post.

I'm not sure but seem to recall that the initial Nazi Gun Laws exclusively targeted the Jewish People.

Actually, the initial gun laws were created in 1920s........the German government wanted to register guns....so they could make sure bad people didn't get them.....sound familiar? The communists and national socialists were fighting each other.....and to crack down on the violent street fights and shootings......they wanted to register guns....

The German people were told that strict measures would be in place to keep the records of gun ownership safe...

The first thing the national socialists did when they took control was to use the registration records from the 1920s to disarm Jews and their political enemies....

This is why we will always oppose any attempt to register American guns...
I could make an argument of your need to oppose registration of firearms (starting with this isn't Nazi Germany).

Instead, I'll back off and say thank you for the history lesson.

Nazi Germany wasn't nazi Germany in the 1920s either.........in less than 20 years they went from Weimar Germany to death camps.....and they first registered guns....then the nazis banned and confiscated them.
Yes, I 'm familiar with the Deutshe Reich (commonly, the Weimar Republic); read a whole book on it many years ago.

A lot of people are using the German Gun Laws as an analogy to the US. They might want to take a look at another analogy, that being how quickly an intelligent population and constitutional democracy fell prey to a demagogue.
In a dictatorship, people who criticize the dictator tend to have bad things happen to them. Almost half the people and 99% of the media shit on Trump for years and nothing happened to any of them.
But what happens to folks who get on the establishment's shit list? Investigation's by everyone from the FBI to the IRS, loss of employment, media hit pieces, persecution, prosecution, "cancel culture" swarms, Twitter mobs,etc.


Trump was never the problem.
Seriously, what happens to virtually anyone who crosses Trump. Pence, Cohen, Haley, McCarthy, Barr, Sessions and how many Secretary's of Defense can we count.

Trump is reaping what he has sown. Brace yourself, it's going to get worse with little if any of it coming from the WH or the Justice Department
It's going to get a lot worse all right...... you ever seen a civil war? Ever been to a country that's in one, or just finished one?

I have, more than one.
And none those countries had anywhere near as many armed people as we do here.
It's going to be really bad.
Really bad for who?
Probably you, it's a little tough to run with a walker.
Mine's motorized due to something I brought home from Nam.

Yours?
Well then you answered your own question--it would be bad for you, like I said.
I appreciate your concern, but what I really wanted to hear, was where you were in SE Asia?
Danang, HQ, 1stMarDiv. 70.
thank you for your service sir. you guys deserve the best, you are heros of America. the way you were treated when you came home still sickens me, it wasn't fair, and it wasn't right. we can never thank you enough.
 
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nancy pelosi just pulled WashingtonAmerica.Com
off the internet... how the fuck did she get that powerful ? this is nuts...
Really? And just what evidence do you have that Nancy Pelosi knows about or cares about your personal website? I've seen your rule-violating plugs here and I've never been to your site and have no interest or intention. I'm pretty sure Nancy Pelosi, Donald Trump, and most of the rest of the world feel the same.
lol...
 
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just imagining how the actual process would begin.
so far its political bluster. but communism is chipping away at democracy. other things constitutional are melting in the fakenews winds of liberal hysteria.
obama changed the constitution.

fake news is the enemy of conservative America.
journalism will make a fabulous comeback.

do they have a ... "plan" for rounding up ar 15's

i still need mine, so im keeping it (them)..
Hilarious. Are you a criminal, underaged or insane ? If not, you have nothing to worry about. And, if you are but don’t commit any more crimes, you can probably keep the ones you have. Like, if I were you, I wouldn’t storm the capital anytime soon.
Scary - huh?

Grown men, strangers, wonder onto the internet pretending a plot to attack something they proport to love (albeit a something that is sick and in need of surgery which they are qualified to perform).

Scarier still is the math; given enough instances of this kind of comic drama, the worst is bound to happen. Witness Jan 6, and the deadly but almost childlike insurrection. Good grief.
What's scary, is that someone like you who has an absolutely infantile grasp of reality, is walking around without a minder.
Your post has absolutely nothing to do with a topic other than me. It's an ad hominem, a personal attack and it bores me.
Then by your own standards, your post is an ad hominem as it had nothing to do with the topic. LMAO, you morons are too much.
My reply addressed the nature of ad hominems and my boredom with them. I attacked what the poster said just as I will in citing the adolescent use of the word "moron".
And the truth hurts, eh? BTW, that is another off topic post. So take your hypocritical pompous ass down the road you arrogant bastard--now you've really been schooled in adolescent vocabulary--which is also off topic.
You are off topic.
Wow, You are amazingly quick on the uptake after being told three times to "STAY ON TOPIC" and that makes four, thread hijacking is frowned upon here.
I engage what is put before me though sometimes making a poor choice.
... how would biden take my guns. ...
My father - he may rest in peace in the arms of god - had taken your gun, had put it on a choppin block and had made scrap and firewood out of it. This he made with all guns someone gave him. And I'm able to imagine that thousands - perhaps even millions - of your people would be much more happy now, if they also had done so in good time.
dejd
... how would biden take my guns. ...
My father - he may rest in peace in the arms of god - had taken your gun, had put it on a choppin block and had made scrap and firewood out of it. This he made with all guns someone gave him. And I'm able to imagine that thousands - perhaps even millions - of your people would be much more happy now, if they also had done so in good time.
define happy ?
Eh? Alcohol, drugs, weapons ... all this things make unhappy. Guns are a waste of time, a waste of money, a waste of energy and guns are damned dangerous - specially for the own life and family. Better to waste money, time and energy by learning and reading books. Books make competent and happy.

what about happiness is a warm gun ?
the gun is my best friend, rural vermont demands self protection, the last time i dialed 911 it took 45 minutes for the state police to arrive, sheriff response is longer.. those are the people we have to call.
Buy an axe. And latest when you will nail some heads of your enemies over the front door of your house everyone will know that you need no one's help. ... Oh damn. Wrong country. Wrong century. - Germany some thousand years ago. Forget this advice. Today all German policemen together (~ 250,000 men and women) have to shoot less than 100 times a year - including warn shots - and less than 10 people have to die a year. And nearly never a policeman is losing the own life. So you see: There are real ways far from all forms of paranoia and wrong heroism.
History has shown how nazis like using guns
History shows that US-Americans have not a big idea about "Nazis" - and try to hide a lot of the own historical wrongdoings by using this word.


ok adolph no rewrite of your nazi history
Always nice to speak with idiots like you, who still live in 1945 in an aeroplane, which fires on innocent refugees. When will you start to be born and to live your own life?
thing is you nazis never went away you just try to rewrite history to make it look like you did.
Okay. Let me inform you that you call someone "Nazi", who lost a big part of his family in the holocaust on his own and you are on the way to get tough problems with god personally.

one of the saddest things i've ever heard is "that's why i don't have any aunt's or uncle's". six million innocent people exterminated. my God, the horror of that gets diluted generationally.
that could not happen in America, we know why.
The Nazis made the first racist law against Jews in 1935. And no one in the world protested because everywhere all over the world existed racist laws. No one thought such things are possible in Germany. The racism in Germany was by the way a very special form of racism: The Nazis needed a marker to be able to see a difference between Jews and other Germans. For me personally the holocaust it not a genocide - it's a fratricide for me.

And what could not happen in the USA? ... Ward Churchill for example said it existed 12 million Red Indians in the year 1500 in Northamerica. In 1900 still existed only 237,000 descendants of them. Worldwide the population grew about 1.5-2 times during this time. So 237,000 are only about 0.65%. In 1694 in Massachusetts for example they made a price for scalps of Red Indians - in 1704 they stopped to pay the price for children under 10 - later they stopped to pay for children under 12 years. ...

But back to the Nazis: In general the Nazis were so damned good with their brainwashing political propaganda that much to many totally normal and intelligent people with a very good education were really convinced that it is good to wipe out all Jews, because Jews are dangerous for Germans - while indeed the Jews in Germany had been nothing else than Germans like all others.
Just a guess but you appear to be working hard at what is not your native tongue. And you are doing a good job. I very much enjoyed your post.

I'm not sure but seem to recall that the initial Nazi Gun Laws exclusively targeted the Jewish People.

Actually, the initial gun laws were created in 1920s........the German government wanted to register guns....so they could make sure bad people didn't get them.....sound familiar? The communists and national socialists were fighting each other.....and to crack down on the violent street fights and shootings......they wanted to register guns....

The German people were told that strict measures would be in place to keep the records of gun ownership safe...

The first thing the national socialists did when they took control was to use the registration records from the 1920s to disarm Jews and their political enemies....

This is why we will always oppose any attempt to register American guns...
I could make an argument of your need to oppose registration of firearms (starting with this isn't Nazi Germany).

Instead, I'll back off and say thank you for the history lesson.

Nazi Germany wasn't nazi Germany in the 1920s either.........in less than 20 years they went from Weimar Germany to death camps.....and they first registered guns....then the nazis banned and confiscated them.
Yes, I 'm familiar with the Deutshe Reich (commonly, the Weimar Republic); read a whole book on it many years ago.

A lot of people are using the German Gun Laws as an analogy to the US. They might want to take a look at another analogy, that being how quickly an intelligent population and constitutional democracy fell prey to a demagogue.
In a dictatorship, people who criticize the dictator tend to have bad things happen to them. Almost half the people and 99% of the media shit on Trump for years and nothing happened to any of them.
But what happens to folks who get on the establishment's shit list? Investigation's by everyone from the FBI to the IRS, loss of employment, media hit pieces, persecution, prosecution, "cancel culture" swarms, Twitter mobs,etc.


Trump was never the problem.
Seriously, what happens to virtually anyone who crosses Trump. Pence, Cohen, Haley, McCarthy, Barr, Sessions and how many Secretary's of Defense can we count.

Trump is reaping what he has sown. Brace yourself, it's going to get worse with little if any of it coming from the WH or the Justice Department
It's going to get a lot worse all right...... you ever seen a civil war? Ever been to a country that's in one, or just finished one?

I have, more than one.
And none those countries had anywhere near as many armed people as we do here.
It's going to be really bad.
the problem that I foresee is this civil war will not be, state against state it will be neighbor against neighbor
that pretty much says it. i think people were stunned to see the decline of Portland, the other cities.
 

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just imagining how the actual process would begin.
so far its political bluster. but communism is chipping away at democracy. other things constitutional are melting in the fakenews winds of liberal hysteria.
obama changed the constitution.

fake news is the enemy of conservative America.
journalism will make a fabulous comeback.

do they have a ... "plan" for rounding up ar 15's

i still need mine, so im keeping it (them)..
Hilarious. Are you a criminal, underaged or insane ? If not, you have nothing to worry about. And, if you are but don’t commit any more crimes, you can probably keep the ones you have. Like, if I were you, I wouldn’t storm the capital anytime soon.
Scary - huh?

Grown men, strangers, wonder onto the internet pretending a plot to attack something they proport to love (albeit a something that is sick and in need of surgery which they are qualified to perform).

Scarier still is the math; given enough instances of this kind of comic drama, the worst is bound to happen. Witness Jan 6, and the deadly but almost childlike insurrection. Good grief.
What's scary, is that someone like you who has an absolutely infantile grasp of reality, is walking around without a minder.
Your post has absolutely nothing to do with a topic other than me. It's an ad hominem, a personal attack and it bores me.
Then by your own standards, your post is an ad hominem as it had nothing to do with the topic. LMAO, you morons are too much.
My reply addressed the nature of ad hominems and my boredom with them. I attacked what the poster said just as I will in citing the adolescent use of the word "moron".
And the truth hurts, eh? BTW, that is another off topic post. So take your hypocritical pompous ass down the road you arrogant bastard--now you've really been schooled in adolescent vocabulary--which is also off topic.
You are off topic.
Wow, You are amazingly quick on the uptake after being told three times to "STAY ON TOPIC" and that makes four, thread hijacking is frowned upon here.
I engage what is put before me though sometimes making a poor choice.
... how would biden take my guns. ...
My father - he may rest in peace in the arms of god - had taken your gun, had put it on a choppin block and had made scrap and firewood out of it. This he made with all guns someone gave him. And I'm able to imagine that thousands - perhaps even millions - of your people would be much more happy now, if they also had done so in good time.
dejd
... how would biden take my guns. ...
My father - he may rest in peace in the arms of god - had taken your gun, had put it on a choppin block and had made scrap and firewood out of it. This he made with all guns someone gave him. And I'm able to imagine that thousands - perhaps even millions - of your people would be much more happy now, if they also had done so in good time.
define happy ?
Eh? Alcohol, drugs, weapons ... all this things make unhappy. Guns are a waste of time, a waste of money, a waste of energy and guns are damned dangerous - specially for the own life and family. Better to waste money, time and energy by learning and reading books. Books make competent and happy.

what about happiness is a warm gun ?
the gun is my best friend, rural vermont demands self protection, the last time i dialed 911 it took 45 minutes for the state police to arrive, sheriff response is longer.. those are the people we have to call.
Buy an axe. And latest when you will nail some heads of your enemies over the front door of your house everyone will know that you need no one's help. ... Oh damn. Wrong country. Wrong century. - Germany some thousand years ago. Forget this advice. Today all German policemen together (~ 250,000 men and women) have to shoot less than 100 times a year - including warn shots - and less than 10 people have to die a year. And nearly never a policeman is losing the own life. So you see: There are real ways far from all forms of paranoia and wrong heroism.
History has shown how nazis like using guns
History shows that US-Americans have not a big idea about "Nazis" - and try to hide a lot of the own historical wrongdoings by using this word.


ok adolph no rewrite of your nazi history
Always nice to speak with idiots like you, who still live in 1945 in an aeroplane, which fires on innocent refugees. When will you start to be born and to live your own life?
thing is you nazis never went away you just try to rewrite history to make it look like you did.
Okay. Let me inform you that you call someone "Nazi", who lost a big part of his family in the holocaust on his own and you are on the way to get tough problems with god personally.

one of the saddest things i've ever heard is "that's why i don't have any aunt's or uncle's". six million innocent people exterminated. my God, the horror of that gets diluted generationally.
that could not happen in America, we know why.
The Nazis made the first racist law against Jews in 1935. And no one in the world protested because everywhere all over the world existed racist laws. No one thought such things are possible in Germany. The racism in Germany was by the way a very special form of racism: The Nazis needed a marker to be able to see a difference between Jews and other Germans. For me personally the holocaust it not a genocide - it's a fratricide for me.

And what could not happen in the USA? ... Ward Churchill for example said it existed 12 million Red Indians in the year 1500 in Northamerica. In 1900 still existed only 237,000 descendants of them. Worldwide the population grew about 1.5-2 times during this time. So 237,000 are only about 0.65%. In 1694 in Massachusetts for example they made a price for scalps of Red Indians - in 1704 they stopped to pay the price for children under 10 - later they stopped to pay for children under 12 years. ...

But back to the Nazis: In general the Nazis were so damned good with their brainwashing political propaganda that much to many totally normal and intelligent people with a very good education were really convinced that it is good to wipe out all Jews, because Jews are dangerous for Germans - while indeed the Jews in Germany had been nothing else than Germans like all others.
Just a guess but you appear to be working hard at what is not your native tongue. And you are doing a good job. I very much enjoyed your post.

I'm not sure but seem to recall that the initial Nazi Gun Laws exclusively targeted the Jewish People.

Actually, the initial gun laws were created in 1920s........the German government wanted to register guns....so they could make sure bad people didn't get them.....sound familiar? The communists and national socialists were fighting each other.....and to crack down on the violent street fights and shootings......they wanted to register guns....

The German people were told that strict measures would be in place to keep the records of gun ownership safe...

The first thing the national socialists did when they took control was to use the registration records from the 1920s to disarm Jews and their political enemies....

This is why we will always oppose any attempt to register American guns...
I could make an argument of your need to oppose registration of firearms (starting with this isn't Nazi Germany).

Instead, I'll back off and say thank you for the history lesson.

Nazi Germany wasn't nazi Germany in the 1920s either.........in less than 20 years they went from Weimar Germany to death camps.....and they first registered guns....then the nazis banned and confiscated them.
Yes, I 'm familiar with the Deutshe Reich (commonly, the Weimar Republic); read a whole book on it many years ago.

A lot of people are using the German Gun Laws as an analogy to the US. They might want to take a look at another analogy, that being how quickly an intelligent population and constitutional democracy fell prey to a demagogue.
In a dictatorship, people who criticize the dictator tend to have bad things happen to them. Almost half the people and 99% of the media shit on Trump for years and nothing happened to any of them.
But what happens to folks who get on the establishment's shit list? Investigation's by everyone from the FBI to the IRS, loss of employment, media hit pieces, persecution, prosecution, "cancel culture" swarms, Twitter mobs,etc.


Trump was never the problem.
Seriously, what happens to virtually anyone who crosses Trump. Pence, Cohen, Haley, McCarthy, Barr, Sessions and how many Secretary's of Defense can we count.

Trump is reaping what he has sown. Brace yourself, it's going to get worse with little if any of it coming from the WH or the Justice Department
It's going to get a lot worse all right...... you ever seen a civil war? Ever been to a country that's in one, or just finished one?

I have, more than one.
And none those countries had anywhere near as many armed people as we do here.
It's going to be really bad.
the problem that I foresee is this civil war will not be, state against state it will be neighbor against neighbor
that pretty much says it. i think people were stunned to see the decline of Portland, the other cities.
Stunned? Maybe, but in the sense of surprised, not me. I remember things like Rodney King and Watts and My Lai and hundreds of dead kids at a place named El Mesote and how B52s can light the night sky to the middle of the day. Nothing's new.

I think I'll go back to my roots, to living in the middle of nowhere.
 

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just imagining how the actual process would begin.
so far its political bluster. but communism is chipping away at democracy. other things constitutional are melting in the fakenews winds of liberal hysteria.
obama changed the constitution.

fake news is the enemy of conservative America.
journalism will make a fabulous comeback.

do they have a ... "plan" for rounding up ar 15's

i still need mine, so im keeping it (them)..
Hilarious. Are you a criminal, underaged or insane ? If not, you have nothing to worry about. And, if you are but don’t commit any more crimes, you can probably keep the ones you have. Like, if I were you, I wouldn’t storm the capital anytime soon.
Scary - huh?

Grown men, strangers, wonder onto the internet pretending a plot to attack something they proport to love (albeit a something that is sick and in need of surgery which they are qualified to perform).

Scarier still is the math; given enough instances of this kind of comic drama, the worst is bound to happen. Witness Jan 6, and the deadly but almost childlike insurrection. Good grief.
What's scary, is that someone like you who has an absolutely infantile grasp of reality, is walking around without a minder.
Your post has absolutely nothing to do with a topic other than me. It's an ad hominem, a personal attack and it bores me.
Then by your own standards, your post is an ad hominem as it had nothing to do with the topic. LMAO, you morons are too much.
My reply addressed the nature of ad hominems and my boredom with them. I attacked what the poster said just as I will in citing the adolescent use of the word "moron".
And the truth hurts, eh? BTW, that is another off topic post. So take your hypocritical pompous ass down the road you arrogant bastard--now you've really been schooled in adolescent vocabulary--which is also off topic.
You are off topic.
Wow, You are amazingly quick on the uptake after being told three times to "STAY ON TOPIC" and that makes four, thread hijacking is frowned upon here.
I engage what is put before me though sometimes making a poor choice.
... how would biden take my guns. ...
My father - he may rest in peace in the arms of god - had taken your gun, had put it on a choppin block and had made scrap and firewood out of it. This he made with all guns someone gave him. And I'm able to imagine that thousands - perhaps even millions - of your people would be much more happy now, if they also had done so in good time.
dejd
... how would biden take my guns. ...
My father - he may rest in peace in the arms of god - had taken your gun, had put it on a choppin block and had made scrap and firewood out of it. This he made with all guns someone gave him. And I'm able to imagine that thousands - perhaps even millions - of your people would be much more happy now, if they also had done so in good time.
define happy ?
Eh? Alcohol, drugs, weapons ... all this things make unhappy. Guns are a waste of time, a waste of money, a waste of energy and guns are damned dangerous - specially for the own life and family. Better to waste money, time and energy by learning and reading books. Books make competent and happy.

what about happiness is a warm gun ?
the gun is my best friend, rural vermont demands self protection, the last time i dialed 911 it took 45 minutes for the state police to arrive, sheriff response is longer.. those are the people we have to call.
Buy an axe. And latest when you will nail some heads of your enemies over the front door of your house everyone will know that you need no one's help. ... Oh damn. Wrong country. Wrong century. - Germany some thousand years ago. Forget this advice. Today all German policemen together (~ 250,000 men and women) have to shoot less than 100 times a year - including warn shots - and less than 10 people have to die a year. And nearly never a policeman is losing the own life. So you see: There are real ways far from all forms of paranoia and wrong heroism.
History has shown how nazis like using guns
History shows that US-Americans have not a big idea about "Nazis" - and try to hide a lot of the own historical wrongdoings by using this word.


ok adolph no rewrite of your nazi history
Always nice to speak with idiots like you, who still live in 1945 in an aeroplane, which fires on innocent refugees. When will you start to be born and to live your own life?
thing is you nazis never went away you just try to rewrite history to make it look like you did.
Okay. Let me inform you that you call someone "Nazi", who lost a big part of his family in the holocaust on his own and you are on the way to get tough problems with god personally.

one of the saddest things i've ever heard is "that's why i don't have any aunt's or uncle's". six million innocent people exterminated. my God, the horror of that gets diluted generationally.
that could not happen in America, we know why.
The Nazis made the first racist law against Jews in 1935. And no one in the world protested because everywhere all over the world existed racist laws. No one thought such things are possible in Germany. The racism in Germany was by the way a very special form of racism: The Nazis needed a marker to be able to see a difference between Jews and other Germans. For me personally the holocaust it not a genocide - it's a fratricide for me.

And what could not happen in the USA? ... Ward Churchill for example said it existed 12 million Red Indians in the year 1500 in Northamerica. In 1900 still existed only 237,000 descendants of them. Worldwide the population grew about 1.5-2 times during this time. So 237,000 are only about 0.65%. In 1694 in Massachusetts for example they made a price for scalps of Red Indians - in 1704 they stopped to pay the price for children under 10 - later they stopped to pay for children under 12 years. ...

But back to the Nazis: In general the Nazis were so damned good with their brainwashing political propaganda that much to many totally normal and intelligent people with a very good education were really convinced that it is good to wipe out all Jews, because Jews are dangerous for Germans - while indeed the Jews in Germany had been nothing else than Germans like all others.
Just a guess but you appear to be working hard at what is not your native tongue. And you are doing a good job. I very much enjoyed your post.

I'm not sure but seem to recall that the initial Nazi Gun Laws exclusively targeted the Jewish People.

Actually, the initial gun laws were created in 1920s........the German government wanted to register guns....so they could make sure bad people didn't get them.....sound familiar? The communists and national socialists were fighting each other.....and to crack down on the violent street fights and shootings......they wanted to register guns....

The German people were told that strict measures would be in place to keep the records of gun ownership safe...

The first thing the national socialists did when they took control was to use the registration records from the 1920s to disarm Jews and their political enemies....

This is why we will always oppose any attempt to register American guns...
I could make an argument of your need to oppose registration of firearms (starting with this isn't Nazi Germany).

Instead, I'll back off and say thank you for the history lesson.

Nazi Germany wasn't nazi Germany in the 1920s either.........in less than 20 years they went from Weimar Germany to death camps.....and they first registered guns....then the nazis banned and confiscated them.
Yes, I 'm familiar with the Deutshe Reich (commonly, the Weimar Republic); read a whole book on it many years ago.

A lot of people are using the German Gun Laws as an analogy to the US. They might want to take a look at another analogy, that being how quickly an intelligent population and constitutional democracy fell prey to a demagogue.
In a dictatorship, people who criticize the dictator tend to have bad things happen to them. Almost half the people and 99% of the media shit on Trump for years and nothing happened to any of them.
But what happens to folks who get on the establishment's shit list? Investigation's by everyone from the FBI to the IRS, loss of employment, media hit pieces, persecution, prosecution, "cancel culture" swarms, Twitter mobs,etc.


Trump was never the problem.
Seriously, what happens to virtually anyone who crosses Trump. Pence, Cohen, Haley, McCarthy, Barr, Sessions and how many Secretary's of Defense can we count.

Trump is reaping what he has sown. Brace yourself, it's going to get worse with little if any of it coming from the WH or the Justice Department
It's going to get a lot worse all right...... you ever seen a civil war? Ever been to a country that's in one, or just finished one?

I have, more than one.
And none those countries had anywhere near as many armed people as we do here.
It's going to be really bad.
the problem that I foresee is this civil war will not be, state against state it will be neighbor against neighbor
that pretty much says it. i think people were stunned to see the decline of Portland, the other cities.
Stunned? Maybe, but in the sense of surprised, not me. I remember things like Rodney King and Watts and My Lai and hundreds of dead kids at a place named El Mesote and how B52s can light the night sky to the middle of the day. Nothing's new.

I think I'll go back to my roots, to living in the middle of nowhere.
That's what I tried to do--but outside of Alaska, it is difficult to find "Nowhere" let alone the middle of it.
 

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just imagining how the actual process would begin.
so far its political bluster. but communism is chipping away at democracy. other things constitutional are melting in the fakenews winds of liberal hysteria.
obama changed the constitution.

fake news is the enemy of conservative America.
journalism will make a fabulous comeback.

do they have a ... "plan" for rounding up ar 15's

i still need mine, so im keeping it (them)..
Hilarious. Are you a criminal, underaged or insane ? If not, you have nothing to worry about. And, if you are but don’t commit any more crimes, you can probably keep the ones you have. Like, if I were you, I wouldn’t storm the capital anytime soon.
Scary - huh?

Grown men, strangers, wonder onto the internet pretending a plot to attack something they proport to love (albeit a something that is sick and in need of surgery which they are qualified to perform).

Scarier still is the math; given enough instances of this kind of comic drama, the worst is bound to happen. Witness Jan 6, and the deadly but almost childlike insurrection. Good grief.
What's scary, is that someone like you who has an absolutely infantile grasp of reality, is walking around without a minder.
Your post has absolutely nothing to do with a topic other than me. It's an ad hominem, a personal attack and it bores me.
Then by your own standards, your post is an ad hominem as it had nothing to do with the topic. LMAO, you morons are too much.
My reply addressed the nature of ad hominems and my boredom with them. I attacked what the poster said just as I will in citing the adolescent use of the word "moron".
And the truth hurts, eh? BTW, that is another off topic post. So take your hypocritical pompous ass down the road you arrogant bastard--now you've really been schooled in adolescent vocabulary--which is also off topic.
You are off topic.
Wow, You are amazingly quick on the uptake after being told three times to "STAY ON TOPIC" and that makes four, thread hijacking is frowned upon here.
I engage what is put before me though sometimes making a poor choice.
... how would biden take my guns. ...
My father - he may rest in peace in the arms of god - had taken your gun, had put it on a choppin block and had made scrap and firewood out of it. This he made with all guns someone gave him. And I'm able to imagine that thousands - perhaps even millions - of your people would be much more happy now, if they also had done so in good time.
dejd
... how would biden take my guns. ...
My father - he may rest in peace in the arms of god - had taken your gun, had put it on a choppin block and had made scrap and firewood out of it. This he made with all guns someone gave him. And I'm able to imagine that thousands - perhaps even millions - of your people would be much more happy now, if they also had done so in good time.
define happy ?
Eh? Alcohol, drugs, weapons ... all this things make unhappy. Guns are a waste of time, a waste of money, a waste of energy and guns are damned dangerous - specially for the own life and family. Better to waste money, time and energy by learning and reading books. Books make competent and happy.

what about happiness is a warm gun ?
the gun is my best friend, rural vermont demands self protection, the last time i dialed 911 it took 45 minutes for the state police to arrive, sheriff response is longer.. those are the people we have to call.
Buy an axe. And latest when you will nail some heads of your enemies over the front door of your house everyone will know that you need no one's help. ... Oh damn. Wrong country. Wrong century. - Germany some thousand years ago. Forget this advice. Today all German policemen together (~ 250,000 men and women) have to shoot less than 100 times a year - including warn shots - and less than 10 people have to die a year. And nearly never a policeman is losing the own life. So you see: There are real ways far from all forms of paranoia and wrong heroism.
History has shown how nazis like using guns
History shows that US-Americans have not a big idea about "Nazis" - and try to hide a lot of the own historical wrongdoings by using this word.


ok adolph no rewrite of your nazi history
Always nice to speak with idiots like you, who still live in 1945 in an aeroplane, which fires on innocent refugees. When will you start to be born and to live your own life?
thing is you nazis never went away you just try to rewrite history to make it look like you did.
Okay. Let me inform you that you call someone "Nazi", who lost a big part of his family in the holocaust on his own and you are on the way to get tough problems with god personally.

one of the saddest things i've ever heard is "that's why i don't have any aunt's or uncle's". six million innocent people exterminated. my God, the horror of that gets diluted generationally.
that could not happen in America, we know why.
The Nazis made the first racist law against Jews in 1935. And no one in the world protested because everywhere all over the world existed racist laws. No one thought such things are possible in Germany. The racism in Germany was by the way a very special form of racism: The Nazis needed a marker to be able to see a difference between Jews and other Germans. For me personally the holocaust it not a genocide - it's a fratricide for me.

And what could not happen in the USA? ... Ward Churchill for example said it existed 12 million Red Indians in the year 1500 in Northamerica. In 1900 still existed only 237,000 descendants of them. Worldwide the population grew about 1.5-2 times during this time. So 237,000 are only about 0.65%. In 1694 in Massachusetts for example they made a price for scalps of Red Indians - in 1704 they stopped to pay the price for children under 10 - later they stopped to pay for children under 12 years. ...

But back to the Nazis: In general the Nazis were so damned good with their brainwashing political propaganda that much to many totally normal and intelligent people with a very good education were really convinced that it is good to wipe out all Jews, because Jews are dangerous for Germans - while indeed the Jews in Germany had been nothing else than Germans like all others.
Just a guess but you appear to be working hard at what is not your native tongue. And you are doing a good job. I very much enjoyed your post.

I'm not sure but seem to recall that the initial Nazi Gun Laws exclusively targeted the Jewish People.

Actually, the initial gun laws were created in 1920s........the German government wanted to register guns....so they could make sure bad people didn't get them.....sound familiar? The communists and national socialists were fighting each other.....and to crack down on the violent street fights and shootings......they wanted to register guns....

The German people were told that strict measures would be in place to keep the records of gun ownership safe...

The first thing the national socialists did when they took control was to use the registration records from the 1920s to disarm Jews and their political enemies....

This is why we will always oppose any attempt to register American guns...
I could make an argument of your need to oppose registration of firearms (starting with this isn't Nazi Germany).

Instead, I'll back off and say thank you for the history lesson.

Nazi Germany wasn't nazi Germany in the 1920s either.........in less than 20 years they went from Weimar Germany to death camps.....and they first registered guns....then the nazis banned and confiscated them.
Yes, I 'm familiar with the Deutshe Reich (commonly, the Weimar Republic); read a whole book on it many years ago.

A lot of people are using the German Gun Laws as an analogy to the US. They might want to take a look at another analogy, that being how quickly an intelligent population and constitutional democracy fell prey to a demagogue.
In a dictatorship, people who criticize the dictator tend to have bad things happen to them. Almost half the people and 99% of the media shit on Trump for years and nothing happened to any of them.
But what happens to folks who get on the establishment's shit list? Investigation's by everyone from the FBI to the IRS, loss of employment, media hit pieces, persecution, prosecution, "cancel culture" swarms, Twitter mobs,etc.


Trump was never the problem.
Seriously, what happens to virtually anyone who crosses Trump. Pence, Cohen, Haley, McCarthy, Barr, Sessions and how many Secretary's of Defense can we count.

Trump is reaping what he has sown. Brace yourself, it's going to get worse with little if any of it coming from the WH or the Justice Department
It's going to get a lot worse all right...... you ever seen a civil war? Ever been to a country that's in one, or just finished one?

I have, more than one.
And none those countries had anywhere near as many armed people as we do here.
It's going to be really bad.
the problem that I foresee is this civil war will not be, state against state it will be neighbor against neighbor
that pretty much says it. i think people were stunned to see the decline of Portland, the other cities.
Stunned? Maybe, but in the sense of surprised, not me. I remember things like Rodney King and Watts and My Lai and hundreds of dead kids at a place named El Mesote and how B52s can light the night sky to the middle of the day. Nothing's new.

I think I'll go back to my roots, to living in the middle of nowhere.
That's what I tried to do--but outside of Alaska, it is difficult to find "Nowhere" let alone the middle of it.
That's the truth, but at my age, no damn way I'm going anyplace cold. Besides, I have the advantage of having grown up on the desert, and hot places without shopping doesn't attract too many people.

Maybe I'll buy a 12 gauge and take up bird hunting, again. Good luck getting that past my wife.
 

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How is it like that?

Your OP implies they aren't coming and confiscating your guns, so it's fine. I pointed out there's a lot they can do to cancel the usefulness and persecute you for them, like charging you for murder if you shoot someone who breaks into your home and making it pretty much impossible to carry your guns in defense outside your home.

You you get my point or not?
In the UK, they have charged people with murder for defending their own lives in their own homes. You have a duty to retreat and when retreat is not possible, you have a duty to die.
Yep. And in leftist controlled places like NYC they have charged victims with bigger crimes than criminals for defending themselves with a gun
 

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just imagining how the actual process would begin.
so far its political bluster. but communism is chipping away at democracy. other things constitutional are melting in the fakenews winds of liberal hysteria.
obama changed the constitution.

fake news is the enemy of conservative America.
journalism will make a fabulous comeback.

do they have a ... "plan" for rounding up ar 15's

i still need mine, so im keeping it (them)..
Hilarious. Are you a criminal, underaged or insane ? If not, you have nothing to worry about. And, if you are but don’t commit any more crimes, you can probably keep the ones you have. Like, if I were you, I wouldn’t storm the capital anytime soon.
Scary - huh?

Grown men, strangers, wonder onto the internet pretending a plot to attack something they proport to love (albeit a something that is sick and in need of surgery which they are qualified to perform).

Scarier still is the math; given enough instances of this kind of comic drama, the worst is bound to happen. Witness Jan 6, and the deadly but almost childlike insurrection. Good grief.
What's scary, is that someone like you who has an absolutely infantile grasp of reality, is walking around without a minder.
Your post has absolutely nothing to do with a topic other than me. It's an ad hominem, a personal attack and it bores me.
Then by your own standards, your post is an ad hominem as it had nothing to do with the topic. LMAO, you morons are too much.
My reply addressed the nature of ad hominems and my boredom with them. I attacked what the poster said just as I will in citing the adolescent use of the word "moron".
And the truth hurts, eh? BTW, that is another off topic post. So take your hypocritical pompous ass down the road you arrogant bastard--now you've really been schooled in adolescent vocabulary--which is also off topic.
You are off topic.
Wow, You are amazingly quick on the uptake after being told three times to "STAY ON TOPIC" and that makes four, thread hijacking is frowned upon here.
I engage what is put before me though sometimes making a poor choice.
... how would biden take my guns. ...
My father - he may rest in peace in the arms of god - had taken your gun, had put it on a choppin block and had made scrap and firewood out of it. This he made with all guns someone gave him. And I'm able to imagine that thousands - perhaps even millions - of your people would be much more happy now, if they also had done so in good time.
dejd
... how would biden take my guns. ...
My father - he may rest in peace in the arms of god - had taken your gun, had put it on a choppin block and had made scrap and firewood out of it. This he made with all guns someone gave him. And I'm able to imagine that thousands - perhaps even millions - of your people would be much more happy now, if they also had done so in good time.
define happy ?
Eh? Alcohol, drugs, weapons ... all this things make unhappy. Guns are a waste of time, a waste of money, a waste of energy and guns are damned dangerous - specially for the own life and family. Better to waste money, time and energy by learning and reading books. Books make competent and happy.

what about happiness is a warm gun ?
the gun is my best friend, rural vermont demands self protection, the last time i dialed 911 it took 45 minutes for the state police to arrive, sheriff response is longer.. those are the people we have to call.
Buy an axe. And latest when you will nail some heads of your enemies over the front door of your house everyone will know that you need no one's help. ... Oh damn. Wrong country. Wrong century. - Germany some thousand years ago. Forget this advice. Today all German policemen together (~ 250,000 men and women) have to shoot less than 100 times a year - including warn shots - and less than 10 people have to die a year. And nearly never a policeman is losing the own life. So you see: There are real ways far from all forms of paranoia and wrong heroism.
History has shown how nazis like using guns
History shows that US-Americans have not a big idea about "Nazis" - and try to hide a lot of the own historical wrongdoings by using this word.


ok adolph no rewrite of your nazi history
Always nice to speak with idiots like you, who still live in 1945 in an aeroplane, which fires on innocent refugees. When will you start to be born and to live your own life?
thing is you nazis never went away you just try to rewrite history to make it look like you did.
Okay. Let me inform you that you call someone "Nazi", who lost a big part of his family in the holocaust on his own and you are on the way to get tough problems with god personally.

one of the saddest things i've ever heard is "that's why i don't have any aunt's or uncle's". six million innocent people exterminated. my God, the horror of that gets diluted generationally.
that could not happen in America, we know why.
The Nazis made the first racist law against Jews in 1935. And no one in the world protested because everywhere all over the world existed racist laws. No one thought such things are possible in Germany. The racism in Germany was by the way a very special form of racism: The Nazis needed a marker to be able to see a difference between Jews and other Germans. For me personally the holocaust it not a genocide - it's a fratricide for me.

And what could not happen in the USA? ... Ward Churchill for example said it existed 12 million Red Indians in the year 1500 in Northamerica. In 1900 still existed only 237,000 descendants of them. Worldwide the population grew about 1.5-2 times during this time. So 237,000 are only about 0.65%. In 1694 in Massachusetts for example they made a price for scalps of Red Indians - in 1704 they stopped to pay the price for children under 10 - later they stopped to pay for children under 12 years. ...

But back to the Nazis: In general the Nazis were so damned good with their brainwashing political propaganda that much to many totally normal and intelligent people with a very good education were really convinced that it is good to wipe out all Jews, because Jews are dangerous for Germans - while indeed the Jews in Germany had been nothing else than Germans like all others.
Just a guess but you appear to be working hard at what is not your native tongue. And you are doing a good job. I very much enjoyed your post.

I'm not sure but seem to recall that the initial Nazi Gun Laws exclusively targeted the Jewish People.

Actually, the initial gun laws were created in 1920s........the German government wanted to register guns....so they could make sure bad people didn't get them.....sound familiar? The communists and national socialists were fighting each other.....and to crack down on the violent street fights and shootings......they wanted to register guns....

The German people were told that strict measures would be in place to keep the records of gun ownership safe...

The first thing the national socialists did when they took control was to use the registration records from the 1920s to disarm Jews and their political enemies....

This is why we will always oppose any attempt to register American guns...
I could make an argument of your need to oppose registration of firearms (starting with this isn't Nazi Germany).

Instead, I'll back off and say thank you for the history lesson.

Nazi Germany wasn't nazi Germany in the 1920s either.........in less than 20 years they went from Weimar Germany to death camps.....and they first registered guns....then the nazis banned and confiscated them.
Yes, I 'm familiar with the Deutshe Reich (commonly, the Weimar Republic); read a whole book on it many years ago.

A lot of people are using the German Gun Laws as an analogy to the US. They might want to take a look at another analogy, that being how quickly an intelligent population and constitutional democracy fell prey to a demagogue.
In a dictatorship, people who criticize the dictator tend to have bad things happen to them. Almost half the people and 99% of the media shit on Trump for years and nothing happened to any of them.
But what happens to folks who get on the establishment's shit list? Investigation's by everyone from the FBI to the IRS, loss of employment, media hit pieces, persecution, prosecution, "cancel culture" swarms, Twitter mobs,etc.


Trump was never the problem.
Seriously, what happens to virtually anyone who crosses Trump. Pence, Cohen, Haley, McCarthy, Barr, Sessions and how many Secretary's of Defense can we count.

Trump is reaping what he has sown. Brace yourself, it's going to get worse with little if any of it coming from the WH or the Justice Department
It's going to get a lot worse all right...... you ever seen a civil war? Ever been to a country that's in one, or just finished one?

I have, more than one.
And none those countries had anywhere near as many armed people as we do here.
It's going to be really bad.
the problem that I foresee is this civil war will not be, state against state it will be neighbor against neighbor
that pretty much says it. i think people were stunned to see the decline of Portland, the other cities.
Stunned? Maybe, but in the sense of surprised, not me. I remember things like Rodney King and Watts and My Lai and hundreds of dead kids at a place named El Mesote and how B52s can light the night sky to the middle of the day. Nothing's new.

I think I'll go back to my roots, to living in the middle of nowhere.
That's what I tried to do--but outside of Alaska, it is difficult to find "Nowhere" let alone the middle of it.
That's the truth, but at my age, no damn way I'm going anyplace cold. Besides, I have the advantage of having grown up on the desert, and hot places without shopping doesn't attract too many people.

Maybe I'll buy a 12 gauge and take up bird hunting, again. Good luck getting that past my wife.
I grew up in the desert as well, southern NM and AZ. I love NM, but I also like mountains and forest. We'll be there for the duration.
 
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just imagining how the actual process would begin.
so far its political bluster. but communism is chipping away at democracy. other things constitutional are melting in the fakenews winds of liberal hysteria.
obama changed the constitution.

fake news is the enemy of conservative America.
journalism will make a fabulous comeback.

do they have a ... "plan" for rounding up ar 15's

i still need mine, so im keeping it (them)..
Hilarious. Are you a criminal, underaged or insane ? If not, you have nothing to worry about. And, if you are but don’t commit any more crimes, you can probably keep the ones you have. Like, if I were you, I wouldn’t storm the capital anytime soon.
Scary - huh?

Grown men, strangers, wonder onto the internet pretending a plot to attack something they proport to love (albeit a something that is sick and in need of surgery which they are qualified to perform).

Scarier still is the math; given enough instances of this kind of comic drama, the worst is bound to happen. Witness Jan 6, and the deadly but almost childlike insurrection. Good grief.
What's scary, is that someone like you who has an absolutely infantile grasp of reality, is walking around without a minder.
Your post has absolutely nothing to do with a topic other than me. It's an ad hominem, a personal attack and it bores me.
Then by your own standards, your post is an ad hominem as it had nothing to do with the topic. LMAO, you morons are too much.
My reply addressed the nature of ad hominems and my boredom with them. I attacked what the poster said just as I will in citing the adolescent use of the word "moron".
And the truth hurts, eh? BTW, that is another off topic post. So take your hypocritical pompous ass down the road you arrogant bastard--now you've really been schooled in adolescent vocabulary--which is also off topic.
You are off topic.
Wow, You are amazingly quick on the uptake after being told three times to "STAY ON TOPIC" and that makes four, thread hijacking is frowned upon here.
I engage what is put before me though sometimes making a poor choice.
... how would biden take my guns. ...
My father - he may rest in peace in the arms of god - had taken your gun, had put it on a choppin block and had made scrap and firewood out of it. This he made with all guns someone gave him. And I'm able to imagine that thousands - perhaps even millions - of your people would be much more happy now, if they also had done so in good time.
dejd
... how would biden take my guns. ...
My father - he may rest in peace in the arms of god - had taken your gun, had put it on a choppin block and had made scrap and firewood out of it. This he made with all guns someone gave him. And I'm able to imagine that thousands - perhaps even millions - of your people would be much more happy now, if they also had done so in good time.
define happy ?
Eh? Alcohol, drugs, weapons ... all this things make unhappy. Guns are a waste of time, a waste of money, a waste of energy and guns are damned dangerous - specially for the own life and family. Better to waste money, time and energy by learning and reading books. Books make competent and happy.

what about happiness is a warm gun ?
the gun is my best friend, rural vermont demands self protection, the last time i dialed 911 it took 45 minutes for the state police to arrive, sheriff response is longer.. those are the people we have to call.
Buy an axe. And latest when you will nail some heads of your enemies over the front door of your house everyone will know that you need no one's help. ... Oh damn. Wrong country. Wrong century. - Germany some thousand years ago. Forget this advice. Today all German policemen together (~ 250,000 men and women) have to shoot less than 100 times a year - including warn shots - and less than 10 people have to die a year. And nearly never a policeman is losing the own life. So you see: There are real ways far from all forms of paranoia and wrong heroism.
History has shown how nazis like using guns
History shows that US-Americans have not a big idea about "Nazis" - and try to hide a lot of the own historical wrongdoings by using this word.


ok adolph no rewrite of your nazi history
Always nice to speak with idiots like you, who still live in 1945 in an aeroplane, which fires on innocent refugees. When will you start to be born and to live your own life?
thing is you nazis never went away you just try to rewrite history to make it look like you did.
Okay. Let me inform you that you call someone "Nazi", who lost a big part of his family in the holocaust on his own and you are on the way to get tough problems with god personally.

one of the saddest things i've ever heard is "that's why i don't have any aunt's or uncle's". six million innocent people exterminated. my God, the horror of that gets diluted generationally.
that could not happen in America, we know why.
The Nazis made the first racist law against Jews in 1935. And no one in the world protested because everywhere all over the world existed racist laws. No one thought such things are possible in Germany. The racism in Germany was by the way a very special form of racism: The Nazis needed a marker to be able to see a difference between Jews and other Germans. For me personally the holocaust it not a genocide - it's a fratricide for me.

And what could not happen in the USA? ... Ward Churchill for example said it existed 12 million Red Indians in the year 1500 in Northamerica. In 1900 still existed only 237,000 descendants of them. Worldwide the population grew about 1.5-2 times during this time. So 237,000 are only about 0.65%. In 1694 in Massachusetts for example they made a price for scalps of Red Indians - in 1704 they stopped to pay the price for children under 10 - later they stopped to pay for children under 12 years. ...

But back to the Nazis: In general the Nazis were so damned good with their brainwashing political propaganda that much to many totally normal and intelligent people with a very good education were really convinced that it is good to wipe out all Jews, because Jews are dangerous for Germans - while indeed the Jews in Germany had been nothing else than Germans like all others.
Just a guess but you appear to be working hard at what is not your native tongue. And you are doing a good job. I very much enjoyed your post.

I'm not sure but seem to recall that the initial Nazi Gun Laws exclusively targeted the Jewish People.

Actually, the initial gun laws were created in 1920s........the German government wanted to register guns....so they could make sure bad people didn't get them.....sound familiar? The communists and national socialists were fighting each other.....and to crack down on the violent street fights and shootings......they wanted to register guns....

The German people were told that strict measures would be in place to keep the records of gun ownership safe...

The first thing the national socialists did when they took control was to use the registration records from the 1920s to disarm Jews and their political enemies....

This is why we will always oppose any attempt to register American guns...
I could make an argument of your need to oppose registration of firearms (starting with this isn't Nazi Germany).

Instead, I'll back off and say thank you for the history lesson.

Nazi Germany wasn't nazi Germany in the 1920s either.........in less than 20 years they went from Weimar Germany to death camps.....and they first registered guns....then the nazis banned and confiscated them.
Yes, I 'm familiar with the Deutshe Reich (commonly, the Weimar Republic); read a whole book on it many years ago.

A lot of people are using the German Gun Laws as an analogy to the US. They might want to take a look at another analogy, that being how quickly an intelligent population and constitutional democracy fell prey to a demagogue.
In a dictatorship, people who criticize the dictator tend to have bad things happen to them. Almost half the people and 99% of the media shit on Trump for years and nothing happened to any of them.
But what happens to folks who get on the establishment's shit list? Investigation's by everyone from the FBI to the IRS, loss of employment, media hit pieces, persecution, prosecution, "cancel culture" swarms, Twitter mobs,etc.


Trump was never the problem.
Seriously, what happens to virtually anyone who crosses Trump. Pence, Cohen, Haley, McCarthy, Barr, Sessions and how many Secretary's of Defense can we count.

Trump is reaping what he has sown. Brace yourself, it's going to get worse with little if any of it coming from the WH or the Justice Department
It's going to get a lot worse all right...... you ever seen a civil war? Ever been to a country that's in one, or just finished one?

I have, more than one.
And none those countries had anywhere near as many armed people as we do here.
It's going to be really bad.
the problem that I foresee is this civil war will not be, state against state it will be neighbor against neighbor
that pretty much says it. i think people were stunned to see the decline of Portland, the other cities.
Stunned? Maybe, but in the sense of surprised, not me. I remember things like Rodney King and Watts and My Lai and hundreds of dead kids at a place named El Mesote and how B52s can light the night sky to the middle of the day. Nothing's new.

I think I'll go back to my roots, to living in the middle of nowhere.
it works for me, even better is living on a boat in the gulf.. i'm too old for Vermont winters.
 

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just imagining how the actual process would begin.
so far its political bluster. but communism is chipping away at democracy. other things constitutional are melting in the fakenews winds of liberal hysteria.
obama changed the constitution.

fake news is the enemy of conservative America.
journalism will make a fabulous comeback.

do they have a ... "plan" for rounding up ar 15's

i still need mine, so im keeping it (them)..
Hilarious. Are you a criminal, underaged or insane ? If not, you have nothing to worry about. And, if you are but don’t commit any more crimes, you can probably keep the ones you have. Like, if I were you, I wouldn’t storm the capital anytime soon.
Scary - huh?

Grown men, strangers, wonder onto the internet pretending a plot to attack something they proport to love (albeit a something that is sick and in need of surgery which they are qualified to perform).

Scarier still is the math; given enough instances of this kind of comic drama, the worst is bound to happen. Witness Jan 6, and the deadly but almost childlike insurrection. Good grief.
What's scary, is that someone like you who has an absolutely infantile grasp of reality, is walking around without a minder.
Your post has absolutely nothing to do with a topic other than me. It's an ad hominem, a personal attack and it bores me.
Then by your own standards, your post is an ad hominem as it had nothing to do with the topic. LMAO, you morons are too much.
My reply addressed the nature of ad hominems and my boredom with them. I attacked what the poster said just as I will in citing the adolescent use of the word "moron".
And the truth hurts, eh? BTW, that is another off topic post. So take your hypocritical pompous ass down the road you arrogant bastard--now you've really been schooled in adolescent vocabulary--which is also off topic.
You are off topic.
Wow, You are amazingly quick on the uptake after being told three times to "STAY ON TOPIC" and that makes four, thread hijacking is frowned upon here.
I engage what is put before me though sometimes making a poor choice.
... how would biden take my guns. ...
My father - he may rest in peace in the arms of god - had taken your gun, had put it on a choppin block and had made scrap and firewood out of it. This he made with all guns someone gave him. And I'm able to imagine that thousands - perhaps even millions - of your people would be much more happy now, if they also had done so in good time.
dejd
... how would biden take my guns. ...
My father - he may rest in peace in the arms of god - had taken your gun, had put it on a choppin block and had made scrap and firewood out of it. This he made with all guns someone gave him. And I'm able to imagine that thousands - perhaps even millions - of your people would be much more happy now, if they also had done so in good time.
define happy ?
Eh? Alcohol, drugs, weapons ... all this things make unhappy. Guns are a waste of time, a waste of money, a waste of energy and guns are damned dangerous - specially for the own life and family. Better to waste money, time and energy by learning and reading books. Books make competent and happy.

what about happiness is a warm gun ?
the gun is my best friend, rural vermont demands self protection, the last time i dialed 911 it took 45 minutes for the state police to arrive, sheriff response is longer.. those are the people we have to call.
Buy an axe. And latest when you will nail some heads of your enemies over the front door of your house everyone will know that you need no one's help. ... Oh damn. Wrong country. Wrong century. - Germany some thousand years ago. Forget this advice. Today all German policemen together (~ 250,000 men and women) have to shoot less than 100 times a year - including warn shots - and less than 10 people have to die a year. And nearly never a policeman is losing the own life. So you see: There are real ways far from all forms of paranoia and wrong heroism.
History has shown how nazis like using guns
History shows that US-Americans have not a big idea about "Nazis" - and try to hide a lot of the own historical wrongdoings by using this word.


ok adolph no rewrite of your nazi history
Always nice to speak with idiots like you, who still live in 1945 in an aeroplane, which fires on innocent refugees. When will you start to be born and to live your own life?
thing is you nazis never went away you just try to rewrite history to make it look like you did.
Okay. Let me inform you that you call someone "Nazi", who lost a big part of his family in the holocaust on his own and you are on the way to get tough problems with god personally.

one of the saddest things i've ever heard is "that's why i don't have any aunt's or uncle's". six million innocent people exterminated. my God, the horror of that gets diluted generationally.
that could not happen in America, we know why.
The Nazis made the first racist law against Jews in 1935. And no one in the world protested because everywhere all over the world existed racist laws. No one thought such things are possible in Germany. The racism in Germany was by the way a very special form of racism: The Nazis needed a marker to be able to see a difference between Jews and other Germans. For me personally the holocaust it not a genocide - it's a fratricide for me.

And what could not happen in the USA? ... Ward Churchill for example said it existed 12 million Red Indians in the year 1500 in Northamerica. In 1900 still existed only 237,000 descendants of them. Worldwide the population grew about 1.5-2 times during this time. So 237,000 are only about 0.65%. In 1694 in Massachusetts for example they made a price for scalps of Red Indians - in 1704 they stopped to pay the price for children under 10 - later they stopped to pay for children under 12 years. ...

But back to the Nazis: In general the Nazis were so damned good with their brainwashing political propaganda that much to many totally normal and intelligent people with a very good education were really convinced that it is good to wipe out all Jews, because Jews are dangerous for Germans - while indeed the Jews in Germany had been nothing else than Germans like all others.
Just a guess but you appear to be working hard at what is not your native tongue. And you are doing a good job. I very much enjoyed your post.

I'm not sure but seem to recall that the initial Nazi Gun Laws exclusively targeted the Jewish People.

Actually, the initial gun laws were created in 1920s........the German government wanted to register guns....so they could make sure bad people didn't get them.....sound familiar? The communists and national socialists were fighting each other.....and to crack down on the violent street fights and shootings......they wanted to register guns....

The German people were told that strict measures would be in place to keep the records of gun ownership safe...

The first thing the national socialists did when they took control was to use the registration records from the 1920s to disarm Jews and their political enemies....

This is why we will always oppose any attempt to register American guns...
I could make an argument of your need to oppose registration of firearms (starting with this isn't Nazi Germany).

Instead, I'll back off and say thank you for the history lesson.

Nazi Germany wasn't nazi Germany in the 1920s either.........in less than 20 years they went from Weimar Germany to death camps.....and they first registered guns....then the nazis banned and confiscated them.
Yes, I 'm familiar with the Deutshe Reich (commonly, the Weimar Republic); read a whole book on it many years ago.

A lot of people are using the German Gun Laws as an analogy to the US. They might want to take a look at another analogy, that being how quickly an intelligent population and constitutional democracy fell prey to a demagogue.
In a dictatorship, people who criticize the dictator tend to have bad things happen to them. Almost half the people and 99% of the media shit on Trump for years and nothing happened to any of them.
But what happens to folks who get on the establishment's shit list? Investigation's by everyone from the FBI to the IRS, loss of employment, media hit pieces, persecution, prosecution, "cancel culture" swarms, Twitter mobs,etc.


Trump was never the problem.
Trump was and is a titanic problem because this man is absolutelly stupid without any education - specially without education of the heart - and he is without the will and/or the ability to learn. He made the planet to a much more worse darwinistic planet. He has helped all autocrats and dictatorships and has weakened all democracies - and specially he weakened the western world including the USA. And he made the USA more and more to a spiritually poor country. His doctrine "Everyone is a good American if he fights for me" is a deadly doctrine for your country. He will transform the USA into the PSA (Pharaonic states of America). I warn everyone to vote for Donald Trump again - in whatever kind of future. This man and loser will always be the wrong choice. I don't have any hope that this man ever will really start to learn to overtake responsibility.

And do not confuse Freya and Frigg (which is also often called Frea (Langobards) or just simple Freija = "freeyes"). She's the mother of Balder. "Friday" is the day of Frigg.

In this song here Frigg is also called Freya for example - what leads to misunderstandings. The normal expression all over the planet is perhaps this what we call just simple "mother Earth" - in different manifestations. And the expression "German" - better to say the German word "deutsch" - was in former times not a national expression. The best translation of "Heiliges römisches Reich deutscher Nation" is not "Holy Roman empire of German nation" it is "Holy Roman empire of united nation". "United" was everyone, who spoke a German(ic) language, who was able to communicate with each other. English and yiddish are for example 2 German languages - same with all scandinavian languages and so on. A language which was adequate was Latin and all Latin languages (French, Italian, Spanish and so on ... )

 
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... slavery didn't begin in America ...
Slavery died out in the Christian part of Europe - and it came back in America. So indeed began a new form of slavery in America. I would call this form a "machine minded" slavery.

By the way: Did you ever notice that the modern world very often calls human beings "consumers"? A consumer is part of a machine.

 
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... slavery didn't begin in America ...
Slavery died out in the Christian part of Europe - and it came back in America. So indeed began a new form of slavery in America. I would call this form a "machine minded" slavery.

By the way: Did you ever notice that the modern world very often calls human beings "consumers"? A consumer is part of a machine.

i know bernie calls the incometax providers
"the workers".. fuckin sick that bastard uses my beloved Vermont as political fuel for his twist ends justifiy the means... i hope he dies quickly..
 

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