How worried are R's about the ACA premium hike backlash? This worried.

[struth]

This constant back-and-forth, all-over-the-place chaos is not leadership, it's weakness. It reflects a disordered mind. A real leader plots a clear course and off you go. This is, it remains, a ******* mess. Nothing lasts more than a few days. And that applies to pretty much EVERYTHING he comes near. We saw it YESTERDAY with Ukraine.

Plotting a course and “off you go” isn’t leadership it’s authoritarianism.

A real leader has a goal, and is open minded enough to change his mind, reserves course if needed, take in other views, to reach that goal

Four years of xiden’s authoritarianism left the world and United States worse off

 

[berg80]

The nascent plan also features a deposit program that would incentivize lower-premium options on the ACA exchange. For individuals who downgrade coverage, the difference in coverage costs would be distributed to a “Health Savings Account” provided with taxpayer dollars.

Funny how R's feigned concern about deficits melts away in any number of circumstances when it benefits them.

 

[struth]

The nascent plan also features a deposit program that would incentivize lower-premium options on the ACA exchange. For individuals who downgrade coverage, the difference in coverage costs would be distributed to a “Health Savings Account” provided with taxpayer dollars.

Funny how R's feigned concern about deficits melts away in any number of circumstances when it benefits them.

I’d rather that money go directly to the tax payers for them to deposit…then to big insurance like your fascist plan does

 

[Darkwind]

I am glad that Trump and the GOP are in power to fix the Obama and Dem problem

The problem is, Trump and the GOP won't fix it either.

 

[struth]

The problem is, Trump and the GOP won't fix it either.

Trump's Obamacare fix: Send consumers money, not insurance companies

President Donald Trump and Republicans want to send money directly to consumers instead of Obamacare health insurance companies.

www.usatoday.com

 

[Darkwind]

Trump's Obamacare fix: Send consumers money, not insurance companies

President Donald Trump and Republicans want to send money directly to consumers instead of Obamacare health insurance companies.

www.usatoday.com

I am 1000% behind never sending insurance companies any healthcare money from the taxpayer.

However, I'm opposed to Trump just handing out checks, regardless of the amount, to people to pay for their own damn lives.

It is NOT the role of the Federal Government to send taxpayer money for any reason, even healthcare costs.

 

[MarathonMike]

White House to pitch a Trump Obamacare extension with limits​

The White House expects to soon unveil a health policy framework that includes a two-year extension of Obamacare subsidies due to expire at the end of next month and new limits on eligibility, according to three people granted anonymity to discuss the unannounced plans.

The proposal would mark President Donald Trump’s foray into Capitol Hill negotiations over how to address health care premium spikes set to hit Affordable Care Act enrollees if Congress lets the premium subsidies expire.

A White House official declined to confirm the details of the plan, saying, “Until President Trump makes an announcement himself, any reporting about the administration’s healthcare positions is mere speculation.” MS NOW first reported news of Trump’s intent to announce a new health care framework as soon as Monday to address spikes in ACA insurance premiums.

As part of a deal to reopen the government earlier this month, Senate Republicans agreed to give Democrats a vote on the ACA tax credits in December. But GOP lawmakers across the Capitol have been divided over how to respond to the subsidy deadline, leaving many eager for Trump to reveal his preferences. Hard-line conservatives have been pushing to let the subsidies expire while moderate Republicans have been pressing for an extension. Some Republicans are angling for a health care overhaul to replace the credits.

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/11/23/white-house-to-propose-new-health-care-framework-00666701

Don is nothing if not unpredictable so you never know what he will or won't do until he does it. But I think it's fair to say that while many on the board were doing a happy dance over the idea of R's "winning" the shutdown, meaning unaffordable healthcare for millions, R congressmen were not as sanguine. With everything else that's going against R's heading towards the midterms it would appear defending the position of "people on ACA plans can go screw themselves" is one they'd rather not be put in a position of having to do.

Notice how the potentially proposed two year extension gets them past the election?

Obama and the Democrats jammed the Unaffordable Care Act down our throats with ZERO SUPPORT from the GOP. It is SO UNAFFORDABLE that it requires massive government subsidies. This is ALL on the Democrats and the master conman Obama. Hey bergy, did you ever get a $2500/year reduction in your healthcare plan?

 

[struth]

I am 1000% behind never sending insurance companies any healthcare money from the taxpayer.

However, I'm opposed to Trump just handing out checks, regardless of the amount, to people to pay for their own damn lives.

It is NOT the role of the Federal Government to send taxpayer money for any reason, even healthcare costs.

Tax credits to the tax payer is better then subs to big insurance (the Dem plan)

 

[Darkwind]

Tax credits to the tax payer is better then subs to big insurance (the Dem plan)

Of course. But must we always choose the lesser evil, knowing full well it is still evil?

When do we draw the line and get the Federal government out of the lives of the everyday citizen?

 

[struth]

Of course. But must we always choose the lesser evil, knowing full well it is still evil?

When do we draw the line and get the Federal government out of the lives of the everyday citizen?

I don’t think tax credits to Americans is evil

Why do you?

 

[Darkwind]

I don’t think tax credits to Americans is evil

Why do you?

Why not just end the tax for everyone?

Picking and choosing by the Feds is wrong, and they do it for power.

When you do something for power, you are corrupt, and that is evil.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

I am glad that Trump and the GOP are in power to fix the Obama and Dem problem

To low human capital, this would seem like a fix

 

[sealybobo]

He sometimes goes out of his way to reinvented himself as someone who can see both sides of an issue when there aren't always two sides.

I try to remind myself and others that there is always some truth to what the other side is saying. We forget that. The growing gap between rich and poor. Immigration. Wages. Healthcare reform. Taxes. Regulations.

I was going to say the gays have pushed too far or asked for too much too fast. Too in your face. But the truth is, it's the GOP who keeps mentioning trannies in bathrooms and swimming with girls in college sports. Such a small segment of our population to demonize. But it works. Or at least it did. When the economy is good we can vote on such things. Or who'd you rather drink a beer with. But when the guy you'd rather drink a beer with has doubled the price of beer...

 

[Seymour Flops]

White House to pitch a Trump Obamacare extension with limits​

The White House expects to soon unveil a health policy framework that includes a two-year extension of Obamacare subsidies due to expire at the end of next month and new limits on eligibility, according to three people granted anonymity to discuss the unannounced plans.

The proposal would mark President Donald Trump’s foray into Capitol Hill negotiations over how to address health care premium spikes set to hit Affordable Care Act enrollees if Congress lets the premium subsidies expire.

A White House official declined to confirm the details of the plan, saying, “Until President Trump makes an announcement himself, any reporting about the administration’s healthcare positions is mere speculation.” MS NOW first reported news of Trump’s intent to announce a new health care framework as soon as Monday to address spikes in ACA insurance premiums.

As part of a deal to reopen the government earlier this month, Senate Republicans agreed to give Democrats a vote on the ACA tax credits in December. But GOP lawmakers across the Capitol have been divided over how to respond to the subsidy deadline, leaving many eager for Trump to reveal his preferences. Hard-line conservatives have been pushing to let the subsidies expire while moderate Republicans have been pressing for an extension. Some Republicans are angling for a health care overhaul to replace the credits.

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/11/23/white-house-to-propose-new-health-care-framework-00666701

Don is nothing if not unpredictable so you never know what he will or won't do until he does it. But I think it's fair to say that while many on the board were doing a happy dance over the idea of R's "winning" the shutdown, meaning unaffordable healthcare for millions, R congressmen were not as sanguine. With everything else that's going against R's heading towards the midterms it would appear defending the position of "people on ACA plans can go screw themselves" is one they'd rather not be put in a position of having to do.

Notice how the potentially proposed two year extension gets them past the election?

I knew he would do that.

Democrats whined about the ACA subsidies. Trump is doing something about them. People who truly need help with the premiums that the ACA caused to skyrocket will get it.

"New limits on eligibility," i.e. no more six figure entrepreneurs getting free healthcare paid for by part-time UPS loaders making four figures.

Exactly what is needed.

For some reason, these pampered upper-middle class ACA deadbeats were who the Dems showed all their concern for to the point of shutting down the government to protect their free stuff.

Everytime they talked about someone's premium increasing by "thousands per month," it was the six-figure artists or small business folk they meant. Typical ACA Market enrollees now pay about fifty and would pay roughly double that if the Temporary Subsidies expire on the date picked by Democrats. Not as dramatic as the increase on the wealthy, but the wealthy can afford more.

Duh.

 

[Seymour Flops]

I try to remind myself and others that there is always some truth to what the other side is saying. We forget that. The growing gap between rich and poor. Immigration. Wages. Healthcare reform. Taxes. Regulations.

I was going to say the gays have pushed too far or asked for too much too fast. Too in your face. But the truth is, it's the GOP who keeps mentioning trannies in bathrooms and swimming with girls in college sports. Such a small segment of our population to demonize. But it works. Or at least it did. When the economy is good we can vote on such things. Or who'd you rather drink a beer with. But when the guy you'd rather drink a beer with has doubled the price of beer...

If you don't want the GOP to mention trannies, tell them to stop taking opportunities from girl and women athletes, stop going into the wrong bathrooms/shower rooms, and stop pushing the ideology on confused children.

After Doctor Rene Richards and before the woke movement started targetting children, trannies were a rarely mentioned joke among Republicans.

 

[struth]

Why not just end the tax for everyone?

Picking and choosing by the Feds is wrong, and they do it for power.

When you do something for power, you are corrupt, and that is evil.

what tax? I am talking about tax credits, and by nature, tax credits can only go to people that file taxes. I think everyone that files should get a tax credit for healthcare, iknstead of tax dollars going to big insurance. The tax payer can use that credit to pay their insurance cost

 

[Greenbeard]

White House to pitch a Trump Obamacare extension with limits​

The White House expects to soon unveil a health policy framework that includes a two-year extension of Obamacare subsidies due to expire at the end of next month and new limits on eligibility, according to three people granted anonymity to discuss the unannounced plans.

The proposal would mark President Donald Trump’s foray into Capitol Hill negotiations over how to address health care premium spikes set to hit Affordable Care Act enrollees if Congress lets the premium subsidies expire.

A White House official declined to confirm the details of the plan, saying, “Until President Trump makes an announcement himself, any reporting about the administration’s healthcare positions is mere speculation.” MS NOW first reported news of Trump’s intent to announce a new health care framework as soon as Monday to address spikes in ACA insurance premiums.

As part of a deal to reopen the government earlier this month, Senate Republicans agreed to give Democrats a vote on the ACA tax credits in December. But GOP lawmakers across the Capitol have been divided over how to respond to the subsidy deadline, leaving many eager for Trump to reveal his preferences. Hard-line conservatives have been pushing to let the subsidies expire while moderate Republicans have been pressing for an extension. Some Republicans are angling for a health care overhaul to replace the credits.

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/11/23/white-house-to-propose-new-health-care-framework-00666701

Don is nothing if not unpredictable so you never know what he will or won't do until he does it. But I think it's fair to say that while many on the board were doing a happy dance over the idea of R's "winning" the shutdown, meaning unaffordable healthcare for millions, R congressmen were not as sanguine. With everything else that's going against R's heading towards the midterms it would appear defending the position of "people on ACA plans can go screw themselves" is one they'd rather not be put in a position of having to do.

Notice how the potentially proposed two year extension gets them past the election?

This was always going to end with 1) the GOP giving in and extending ACA 2.0, 2) an electoral wipeout for the GOP, or 3) probably both.

 

[Rawley]

This constant back-and-forth, all-over-the-place chaos is not leadership, it's weakness. It reflects a disordered mind. A real leader plots a clear course and off you go. This is, it remains, a ******* mess. Nothing lasts more than a few days. And that applies to pretty much EVERYTHING he comes near. We saw it YESTERDAY with Ukraine.

What exactly is the "chaos?"

 

[Darkwind]

what tax? I am talking about tax credits, and by nature, tax credits can only go to people that file taxes. I think everyone that files should get a tax credit for healthcare, iknstead of tax dollars going to big insurance. The tax payer can use that credit to pay their insurance cost

How about we just eliminate taxes and fund the government the correct way.

If you pay no taxes, you have no need for a tax credit.

To Me, when I hear tax credit, I hear the word, 'bribe.'

 

[struth]

How about we just eliminate taxes and fund the government the correct way.

If you pay no taxes, you have no need for a tax credit.

To Me, when I hear tax credit, I hear the word, 'bribe.'

What's the correct way to fund Govt?

When I hear the phrase tax credit, I think of lowering my taxable income....which I am always a fan of