How Will You Vote In The 2016 Presidential Election?

[g5000]

The last time the Republicans were in charge of both houses of Congress and the White House, the national debt doubled, prisoners were being tortured, tens of millions of American citizens were being spied on, American citizens were locked up without a writ of habaes corpus, a massive new police state Cabinet department was created, a trillion dollar health entitlement program (Medicare Part D) was created, three wars were started (Iraq, Afghanistan, Terror), and the economy was run off a cliff.

You can see why I have put the GOP's resume in the circular file. I simply do not want to hire them again.

The Democrats promised to change all that. I did not believe them, so I did not hire them. And I was right. They failed. So I don't want them hired again, either.

Looks like another election that will pass without my vote being cast, except on the local level.

Nice rant... now take them one by one and PROVE them...

Easy peasey!

Doubling the debt:
National Debt when GOP took over Congress: $4.98 trillion

National Debt when Bush left office: $10.7 trillion



Torture of prisoners: Cheney Defends U.S. Use Of Waterboarding

Just try today to get a faux conservative to admit waterboarding is torture. They still won't do it, even as they ranting about whatever Obama is doing in the War on Terror. Just ask them in mid-rant over Obama if waterboarding is torture and watch their brains explode from cognitive dissonance.





Speaking of spying on Americans...
2006: Spying on Ordinary Americans

The White House has offered steadily weaker arguments to defend the decision to eavesdrop on Americans' telephone calls and e-mail without getting warrants.

According to the article, the eavesdropping swept up vast quantities of Americans' private communications without any reasonable belief that they could be related to terrorism.

NSA has massive database of Americans' phone calls

The National Security Agency has been secretly collecting the phone call records of tens of millions of Americans, using data provided by AT&T, Verizon and BellSouth, people with direct knowledge of the arrangement told USA TODAY.

This was in all the news at the time, dipshit.





Locking up American citizens without habeas corpus: Hamdi v Rumsfeld





Police state Cabinet level department: Perhaps you have heard of the DHS? Yeah. That was not created on January 20, 2009 dipshit.






Three wars. Do I really need to show evidence of those?





Trillion dollar medical entitlement program? Here's Forbes: Republican Deficit Hypocrisy

Just to be clear, the Medicare drug benefit was a pure giveaway with a gross cost greater than either the House or Senate health reform bills how being considered. Together the new bills would cost roughly $900 billion over the next 10 years, while Medicare Part D will cost $1 trillion.

That was written in 2009. You know what "health reform bills" they were referring to? Yeah. And Medicare Part D cost MORE than that.

Another thing. ObamaCare has provisions which attempt to make it pay for itself. Not so with Medicare D! That's the GOP for you.





So there you go, dipshit. I proved my claims. So shove this up your ass:

 

[francoHFW]

So are there any leftists here that have came to their senses and soured on obama and the socialist, leftist agenda? Will you vote for more massive, big government take overs, more of your rights lost to the NSA, HHS, Homeland Security, bills that are never read but voted into law, etc, by the democrats? Are you better off now than you were when obama and his radical leftist squad took office?

Or will you vote for a conservative republican to fix the damage that's been done to the country at the hands of the radical left?

Bush allowed NSA wiretapping as well. In fact, he started the Homeland Security Department.

Why should I vote Republican? What do they offer that is different from Obama or different from Bush?

As of right now, I won't vote.

The GOP would go back to no control over health care prices and scams, or Wall St, or Big Oil, would go back to confrontation with Iran, and you could expect no progess on immigration, getting the rich or corps to pay their fair share, or the beleagured nonrich, or repairs to infrastructure or education/training...

 

[Iceman]

So are there any leftists here that have came to their senses and soured on obama and the socialist, leftist agenda? Will you vote for more massive, big government take overs, more of your rights lost to the NSA, HHS, Homeland Security, bills that are never read but voted into law, etc, by the democrats? Are you better off now than you were when obama and his radical leftist squad took office?

Or will you vote for a conservative republican to fix the damage that's been done to the country at the hands of the radical left?

Bush allowed NSA wiretapping as well. In fact, he started the Homeland Security Department.

Why should I vote Republican? What do they offer that is different from Obama or different from Bush?

As of right now, I won't vote.

The GOP would go back to no control over health care prices and scams, or Wall St, or Big Oil, would go back to confrontation with Iran, and you could expect no progess on immigration, getting the rich or corps to pay their fair share, or the beleagured nonrich, or repairs to infrastructure or education/training...

I doubt the GOP would repeal Obamacare. If I actually thought they would, I wouldn't vote for them, but I might consider it.

Obamacare is robbery by health insurance mega-corporations of American citizens.

Both support Wall Street Bailouts and the Federal Reserve.

Obama and Romney's biggest donors were both from Wall Street.

You are a fool to think they represent choices. They provide the illusion of choice. But they are two sides of the same coin, controlled by larger interests, both funded equally as a hedge when the other loses an election.

Both support amnesty and mass legal immigration. The only difference is some in the GOP talk about a fence first, as though that makes a difference. Again, no difference.

You might be right on Iran. I doubt a Republican administration would have lightened sanctions. I actually support Obama there. But neither would be likely to go to war at this point. Both parties know this could potentially entangle Russia and China in a worldwide conflict that we couldn't win. I will give Obama credit for bucking zionist power in DC and lightening the sanctions though.

 

[Wacky Quacky]

So are there any leftists here that have came to their senses and soured on obama and the socialist, leftist agenda? Will you vote for more massive, big government take overs, more of your rights lost to the NSA, HHS, Homeland Security, bills that are never read but voted into law, etc, by the democrats? Are you better off now than you were when obama and his radical leftist squad took office?

You must have been born on Jan 20, 2009. I hate to break the news to you, but everything you listed there were started/expanded by a republican president. Obama didn't do a damn thing to stop them, but he he absolutely didn't start them.

Or will you vote for a conservative republican to fix the damage that's been done to the country at the hands of the radical left?

Will I vote for the party that started/expanded everything you listed you hate? Um, no. Actually, that's not completely fair. I'll have to wait to see who's running. Unlike the idiot masses I vote for the person, not for or against a party

 

[Harry Dresden]

After 30 years of Voodoo ruining the nonrich and the country, and 8 years of Booosh wrecking the WORLD, AND 5 years of mindless Pub obstruction, anyone NOT voting Dem is either a greedy idiot or a brainwashed hater dupe, and eveything you know is Pubcrappe from charlatans of the gigantic Pub bs propaganda machine- change the gd channel...see sig- memorize it, all FACT.

yea yea we know Frankie.....everybody is being misled except you and anyone who agrees with you....gotcha.....unlike you Frankie....ill ask questions....

Sure, so give me a ''fact'' that makes you want to vote Pub, and I'll show you how it's bs...tell me where my sig is incorrect...zzzzzz

do you read other posts around here Frankie?.....i dont Vote Repub or Dem.....i vote 3rd Party....as far as i am concerned between the Rep and the Dems.....one is Satan and the other is his Evil cousin....why waste a vote on that?....

 

[francoHFW]

PUBS HAVE WRECKED THE COUNTRY AND THE WORLD FOR 30 YEARS, OR 40, since Nixon, though especially under Bush- Pubs caused the need for bailouts, ACA is great for people AND the country...without Pub obstruction, we'd be out of the world economic mess they caused- they're always good for a corrupt bubble/bust/scandal...

 

[Pheonixops]

Won't be voting. No point in participating in something I don't believe in.

Good. Get the fuck out of my country altogether while you're at it. Nobody wants you here.

Your country Pinkotare, LOL?

You are from Hanoi, go back there.

But you are right, you are a nobody.

This is every much his country as it is yours or mine. Who cares where he came from except for an ignorant BIGOT like you.

 

[Iceman]

Good. Get the fuck out of my country altogether while you're at it. Nobody wants you here.

Your country Pinkotare, LOL?

You are from Hanoi, go back there.

But you are right, you are a nobody.

This is every much his country as it is yours or mine. Who cares where he came from except for an ignorant BIGOT like you.

America is everyone's country! Except, for racist, sexist, anti-gay right wing bigots.

 

[ShawnChris13]

So are there any leftists here that have came to their senses and soured on obama and the socialist, leftist agenda? Will you vote for more massive, big government take overs, more of your rights lost to the NSA, HHS, Homeland Security, bills that are never read but voted into law, etc, by the democrats? Are you better off now than you were when obama and his radical leftist squad took office?



Or will you vote for a conservative republican to fix the damage that's been done to the country at the hands of the radical left?

Vote third party and get rid of the corrupt greedy power hungry incumbents. Overturn the Patriot Act and the NDAA. That's at least a start.

 

[Pheonixops]

Your country Pinkotare, LOL?

You are from Hanoi, go back there.

But you are right, you are a nobody.

This is every much his country as it is yours or mine. Who cares where he came from except for an ignorant BIGOT like you.

America is everyone's country! Except, for racist, sexist, anti-gay right wing bigots.

If they are American citizens it belongs to them too. It's their First Amendment right to be the way they are.

 

[Jughead]

Third party all the way... Well on the national scene.

I appreciate your standing on principle, but a Third Party vote is unproductive. If you lean conservative for example, a Third Party vote is a vote for the Democrat!

True. The same can be said for those conservative voters who would stay home because the GOP candidate is a moderate.

 

[Iceman]

This is every much his country as it is yours or mine. Who cares where he came from except for an ignorant BIGOT like you.

America is everyone's country! Except, for racist, sexist, anti-gay right wing bigots.

If they are American citizens it belongs to them too. It's their First Amendment right to be the way they are.

Free Speech does not equal HATE speech!

 

[ShawnChris13]

America is everyone's country! Except, for racist, sexist, anti-gay right wing bigots.

If they are American citizens it belongs to them too. It's their First Amendment right to be the way they are.

Free Speech does not equal HATE speech!

Free speech does not equal censor peoples opinions because somebody's feelings are hurt.

'Hate speech' is something the left made up. Just like 'social contract'. Neither exist.

 

[Pheonixops]

America is everyone's country! Except, for racist, sexist, anti-gay right wing bigots.

If they are American citizens it belongs to them too. It's their First Amendment right to be the way they are.

Free Speech does not equal HATE speech!

What is your definition of "hate speech"?

 

[blackhawk]

Depends on who my choices are I might write in none of the above.

 

[Kosh]

Doubling the debt:
National Debt when GOP took over Congress: $4.98 trillion

National Debt when Bush left office: $10.7 trillion

GOP took over Congress in 1996, didn't know that Bush was president back n those days.

Fail!

Like I pointed out much mis-information the biggest one of all that proves that you are a far left Obama drone is the Iraq war comment.

The Iraq war started long before 2003. Yet another fail, but does prove that you are far left after all.

And you didn't prove your claims at all, but I know the far left arrogance in you believes you did.

 

[Geaux4it]

Other

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[007]

As much as I hate it myself, especially if the republican nominee is another leftist lite like Romney, if you don't 'hold your nose' and vote for them, it's as good a vote for the dems if you vote third party, write in or anything else.

So it's pretty basic, if you don't want another dem prez, whether you like it or not, you're going to have to vote for the republican.

 

[Harry Dresden]

PUBS HAVE WRECKED THE COUNTRY AND THE WORLD FOR 30 YEARS, OR 40, since Nixon, though especially under Bush- Pubs caused the need for bailouts, ACA is great for people AND the country...without Pub obstruction, we'd be out of the world economic mess they caused- they're always good for a corrupt bubble/bust/scandal...

.....what happened to California?.....a place dominated by Democrats,ESPECIALLY in the Legislature.....and dont give me your stupid Work ID bullshit i already have told you how YOUR fellow Democrats out here...at least how the further left ones would react to that....where i sit Frankie Democrats aint much better at Governing.....see my Sig....

 

[007]

PUBS HAVE WRECKED THE COUNTRY AND THE WORLD FOR 30 YEARS, OR 40, since Nixon, though especially under Bush- Pubs caused the need for bailouts, ACA is great for people AND the country...without Pub obstruction, we'd be out of the world economic mess they caused- they're always good for a corrupt bubble/bust/scandal...

.....what happened to California?.....a place dominated by Democrats,ESPECIALLY in the Legislature.....and dont give me your stupid Work ID bullshit i already have told you how YOUR fellow Democrats out here...at least how the further left ones would react to that....where i sit Frankie Democrats aint much better at Governing.....see my Sig....

Look what they did to Detroit.