How will Trump deal with the Venezuelan Guerrilla forces that control much of the Country and its mineral wealth.

[rightwinger]

We got OBL, Saddam and Iraq controls its own oil.

Cost us 10,000 lives

 

[Dekster]

Trump said he wants to run Venezuela. He says Venezuelan oil and resources will pay for it. So how will he extract it and at what price.

Their Vice-President who has already been sworn in says the US will not get one drop of oil. I guess Pam will have to find a reason to seek an indictment against her too.

 

[JLW]

We got OBL, Saddam and Iraq controls its own oil.

Well, Obama got OBL.

As far as the Iraq War, I would hardly call it a success after how many millions of refugees, thousands of American dead, hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqis, rise of ISIS….and the Iraqi oil never paid for it despite Bush’s promise it would,

 

[OODA_Loop]

Cost us 10,000 lives

10,000 volunteer soldier lives in response to the 2,977 innocent lives lost on 9/11.

God bless them and their families for the ultimate sacrifice.

 

[OODA_Loop]

Well, Obama got OBL.

He was backed into a corner and forced to......


The decision to hunt down and kill al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden was a priority from the moment he took office, President Barack Obama says, but whether to actually undertake the mission was heavily debated.

Obama: Decision to Kill Bin Laden Was Heavily Debated

US president spoke to CNN television Monday, on fifth anniversary of special forces operation that killed the world's most wanted criminal

www.voanews.com

 

[rightwinger]

He was backed into a corner and forced to......


The decision to hunt down and kill al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden was a priority from the moment he took office, President Barack Obama says, but whether to actually undertake the mission was heavily debated.
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Obama: Decision to Kill Bin Laden Was Heavily Debated

US president spoke to CNN television Monday, on fifth anniversary of special forces operation that killed the world's most wanted criminal

www.voanews.com

Getting bin Laden was not a lead pipe cinch
Obama was told it was 50/50
If it failed, he would pay the price

Obama took the chance and it paid off

 

[OODA_Loop]

Getting bin Laden was not a lead pipe cinch
Obama was told it was 50/50
If it failed, he would pay the price

Obama took the chance and it paid off

It was widely reported at the time Panetta told Obama he would issue the order if Obama wouldn't.

Sounds plausible.

 

[kyzr]

I remember after 9-11 that I supported Bush invading Afghanistan to get Bin Laden.
Then, while still in Afghanistan, Bush started with anti-Saddam rhetoric and I thought he was just bluffing.
But Bush decided to invade Iraq because we did not want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud.
I remember Cheney saying we would be treated as liberators
I remember Bush’s “Mission Accomplished” speech.

There was no "Mission Accomplished" speech.
There was a "Mission Accomplished" banner on the aircraft carrier headed homehttps://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/10/28/mission.accomplished/
"The banner was a Navy idea, the ship's idea," Chun said.
"The banner signified the successful completion of the ship's deployment," he said, noting the Abraham Lincoln was deployed 290 days, longer than any other nuclear-powered aircraft carrier in history.
At the time of the event, Democrats worried President Bush would use his speech and the dramatic landing for political gain.

Then things turned to shit in both places
Don’t we ever learn?

AFG turned to shit because Biden fucked up the withdrawal. I still want to know the name of the Biden admin moron who refused to give the US sniper the shoot order for the suicide bomber AFTER the Taliban guy said to shoot, killing 17 Americans.
You say Iraq turned to shit, why is that? You need to compare Iraq today to an Iraq with Saddam still in power.

 

[kyzr]

10,000 volunteer soldier lives in response to the 2,977 innocent lives lost on 9/11.
God bless them and their families for the ultimate sacrifice.

True, but its not 10,000.

 

[rightwinger]

There was no "Mission Accomplished" speech.
There was a "Mission Accomplished" banner on the aircraft carrier headed homehttps://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/10/28/mission.accomplished/
"The banner was a Navy idea, the ship's idea," Chun said.
"The banner signified the successful completion of the ship's deployment," he said, noting the Abraham Lincoln was deployed 290 days, longer than any other nuclear-powered aircraft carrier in history.
At the time of the event, Democrats worried President Bush would use his speech and the dramatic landing for political gain.

Revisionist history by Conservatives to cover for Bush’s premature declaration of success before thousands of soldiers were killed in Iraq

Bush’s speech was about the success of the invasion of Iraq. He was positioned in front of that banner to reflect that success not because of a lengthy mission

 

[rightwinger]

AFG turned to shit because Biden fucked up the withdrawal. I still want to know the name of the Biden admin moron who refused to give the US sniper the shoot order for the suicide bomber AFTER the Taliban guy said to shoot, killing 17 Americans.
You say Iraq turned to shit, why is that? You need to compare Iraq today to an Iraq with Saddam still in power.

Afghanistan was not fucked up because of four months of Biden. It was fucked up because of 20 years of failed US occupation under Bush, Obama and Trump.
Biden complied with the Trump withdrawal agreement with the Taliban. An agreement that the Afghan government was not involved in

 

[BS Filter]

Who would Juan Orlando Hernandez be talking to, and what would he have to say?

Perhaps he will visit his brother Tony?

Juan Orlando Hernández - Wikipedia

"President Hernández's brother, Antonio 'Tony' Hernández, was convicted in the USA on drug trafficking charges and sentenced to life imprisonment.

"After Tony Hernández's conviction on 18 October 2019, 7,000 supporters of President Hernández, including members of the official National Party of Honduras, marched in Tegucigalpa.

"President Hernández criticized his brother's conviction as basado en testimonios de asesinos ('based on testimony from killers') and denied that Honduras has become a narco-state."

Use a credible site for your information. Wiki is not a secure site and can be edited by anyone.

 

[otto105]

There was no invasion. The Venezuelan military supported the arrest of Maduro who they hated. They will control the narco terrorists with the support of America. This was major blow against communism which was the main goal. To stop the spread of communism in South and Central America

Damn, you one fucked up fuckup.

Just like we have democracy in the Middle East now right.

 

[LeftofLeft]

Actually, it delegitimizes Trumps entire invasion

Trump executed a charge handed down from the Biden Administration against a narco terrorist all within the guidelines of the 1973 War Powers Act. I am extactic for the People of Venezuela to have an opportunity to emerge from the economic and social oppression of Chavez-Maduro that has dragged the nation down for decades. Free trade for their top natural resources will help achieve that.

What would be a better path and outcome for the people of Venezuela?

 

[Mac-7]

You better hope so
If it turns into a shit sandwich, Republicans will pay the price

Not many Americans were saying we need to do something about Venezuela

If we get caught in a bad situation partisan politics is my last consideration

Unlike libs I’m driven by love for America

 

[Nobody911]

Since Trump says the US will now run Venezuela, how will he deal with the Venezuelan insurgents who control much of its rare earth minerals and deposits.

Vast tracts of Venezuelan territory rich in critical and rare earth minerals are now controlled by Colombian guerrillas. “They have many armed people. They control everything, and nothing has changed. The only difference is that now most of the Indigenous people are there, with them,” said a young Indigenous Venezuelan we’ll call Carlos* for security reasons. He described how the National Liberation Army (ELN) seized areas rich in coltan, tin ore, and rare earth elements in the southwest of the country. The ELN now sits at the center of a new mining boom.

Most extraction occurs in the Venezuelan states of Amazonas and Bolívar. In Amazonas, mining is prohibited by decree. In Bolívar, it is concentrated in the government-declared Orinoco Mining Arc, established in 2016. While exact timelines are hard to confirm, there is general agreement that rudimentary extraction began around 15 years ago in Cedeño municipality, near a site called Morichalito, close to the Parguaza area….

By 2010, as the global race for critical minerals accelerated, buyers began to appear and local miners were displaced from their extraction sites. Carlos and Josué said that hundreds of armed ELN combatants began seizing the most productive mining sites in 2023, bringing new workers to the region.

When the guerrillas took control, Indigenous leaders were coerced, threatened, or bought off by irregular forces. Those unwilling to work under the guerrilla regime could only work at night, in hidden mining sites.

In Amazonas and northwestern Bolívar, where most critical mineral mines are located, the ELN’s José Daniel Pérez Carrero front and the Acacio Medina Segunda Marquetalia Front, a former Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC) dissident group, operated in alliance, dividing territory and mines while sharing drug-trafficking routes.

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Invasion, Violence and Plunder in Southern Venezuela: The Price of Global Defense and 'Clean Technology' - Amazon Underworld

In the Colombian-Venezuelan borderlands — from the arid, rocky savanna areas near the Orinoco River to the dense, fertile stretches of the Amazon rainforest — lie some of the most coveted minerals on Earth. Their existence exposes a stark contradiction: the critical minerals essential for green...

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Trump admits his invasion was about controlling Venezuelan oil resources but it is also about rare earth minerals that are abundant in Venezuela.

The question is how will Trump access these resources. How many troops will Trump commit to gain access to these minerals.

Maduro could not control these resources, so how will the US.

Nothing to worry about. Those US big oil companies know how to deal with local communities. Dark money can buy almost everything, and even Americans have had a taste for it! lol.

 

[BackAgain]

Trump kicked back and enjoyed the genocide of tens of thousands of unarmed women and kids in Gaza.

No. He didn’t. You filthy lying asshole.

A person would have to be nuts to enjoy those ringside seats.

He didn’t. Why must you make shit up all the time, Sucking Action?

 

[rightwinger]

If we get caught in a bad situation partisan politics is my last consideration

Unlike libs I’m driven by love for America

How is invading Venezuela showing a love of America?
Love America by providing healthcare, good paying jobs, affordable food

That is what America cares about

 

[Mac-7]

How is invading Venezuela showing a love of America?
Love America by providing healthcare, good paying jobs, affordable food

That is what America cares about

Its not

I dont want to see American boots on the ground in Venezuela

 

[rightwinger]

Its not

I dont want to see American boots on the ground in Venezuela

I think most Americans agree with that
I also doubt most Americans were concerned that Maduro was leading Venezuela