How will Trump deal with the Venezuelan Guerrilla forces that control much of the Country and its mineral wealth.

[rightwinger]

I am not worried about the oil

But we must be careful not to get too involved in Venezuela

I think are plenty of communists who are ready for war

That is not a war we should get involved in

Trump has created a power void with us in the middle

We broke it, we bought it

 

[Hafar1014]

When the US comes in, takes the leader and then takes control of the whole country and its oil reserves…..that’s an invasion

Maduro was not the leader he was never elected and took over by force. The people cheered at his arrest. The arrest had the full support of the Venezuelan army and people. Who are you to oppose their free will and support an oppressive tyrant. Oh you must be democrat.

 

[kyzr]

Biden was also complicit. Any world leader (whether hard left or on the "right) who witnessed the genocide and did nothing is an accessory after the fact and complicit. But American Presidents who helped fund the mass murder and who supplied the deadly weapons used for that crime are especially culpable. Trump is NOT innocent.

I agree with you that I object to my tax dollars being used to pay for the bombs that destroyed Gaza.
The Biden admin gave those thousands of 500# bombs to the IDF, not Trump.
Trump got the 20-point peace plan approved. I don't see Trump as participating in any genocide.

 

[rightwinger]

Maduro was not the leader he was never elected and took over by force. The people cheered at his arrest. The arrest had the full support of the Venezuelan army and people. Who are you to oppose their free will and support an oppressive tyrant. Oh you must be democrat.

The old “they will treat us as liberators” argument

 

[kyzr]

Actually, it delegitimizes Trumps entire invasion

What "invasion"? We arrested Maduro.

 

[Hafar1014]

The old “they will treat us as liberators” argument

 

[kyzr]

Trump has created a power void with us in the middle. We broke it, we bought it

VZ has a constitution, their supreme court said who is the new president, no power vacuum.

 

[struth]

Since Trump says the US will now run Venezuela, how will he deal with the Venezuelan insurgents who control much of its rare earth minerals and deposits.

Vast tracts of Venezuelan territory rich in critical and rare earth minerals are now controlled by Colombian guerrillas. “They have many armed people. They control everything, and nothing has changed. The only difference is that now most of the Indigenous people are there, with them,” said a young Indigenous Venezuelan we’ll call Carlos* for security reasons. He described how the National Liberation Army (ELN) seized areas rich in coltan, tin ore, and rare earth elements in the southwest of the country. The ELN now sits at the center of a new mining boom.

Most extraction occurs in the Venezuelan states of Amazonas and Bolívar. In Amazonas, mining is prohibited by decree. In Bolívar, it is concentrated in the government-declared Orinoco Mining Arc, established in 2016. While exact timelines are hard to confirm, there is general agreement that rudimentary extraction began around 15 years ago in Cedeño municipality, near a site called Morichalito, close to the Parguaza area….

By 2010, as the global race for critical minerals accelerated, buyers began to appear and local miners were displaced from their extraction sites. Carlos and Josué said that hundreds of armed ELN combatants began seizing the most productive mining sites in 2023, bringing new workers to the region.

When the guerrillas took control, Indigenous leaders were coerced, threatened, or bought off by irregular forces. Those unwilling to work under the guerrilla regime could only work at night, in hidden mining sites.

In Amazonas and northwestern Bolívar, where most critical mineral mines are located, the ELN’s José Daniel Pérez Carrero front and the Acacio Medina Segunda Marquetalia Front, a former Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC) dissident group, operated in alliance, dividing territory and mines while sharing drug-trafficking routes.

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Invasion, Violence and Plunder in Southern Venezuela: The Price of Global Defense and 'Clean Technology' - Amazon Underworld

In the Colombian-Venezuelan borderlands — from the arid, rocky savanna areas near the Orinoco River to the dense, fertile stretches of the Amazon rainforest — lie some of the most coveted minerals on Earth. Their existence exposes a stark contradiction: the critical minerals essential for green...

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Trump admits his invasion was about controlling Venezuelan oil resources but it is also about rare earth minerals that are abundant in Venezuela.

The question is how will Trump access these resources. How many troops will Trump commit to gain access to these minerals.

Maduro could not control these resources, so how will the US.

He’ll support the legit Venezuelan govt that won the 2014 election

 

[Zincwarrior]

President Trump is not Bush or a neocon.

He just did a Regime Change in one night. And we get to benefit from it as we will get some cheap oil out of it. Bush gave the oil away to corrupt Iraqis who sold it to France.

Except the regime is still there. Whats next?

 

[Hafar1014]

VZ has a constitution, their court said who is the new president, no power vacuum.

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She fled to Russia.

 

[22lcidw]

Actually, it delegitimizes Trumps entire invasion

Columbia needs to be scrutinized also.

 

[rightwinger]

What "invasion"? We arrested Maduro.

And if we grabbed him and left you would be right

But we seized control of the country and gave the oil reserves to US Oil Companies=. invasion

 

[JLW]

He’ll support the legit Venezuelan govt that won the 2014 election

Only if they agree to Trump’s terms. BTW where is Machado?

 

[rightwinger]

VZ has a constitution, their supreme court said who is the new president, no power vacuum.

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We shall see how peaceful it is

 

[georgephillip]

Most likely so he would talk.

Who would Juan Orlando Hernandez be talking to, and what would he have to say?

Perhaps he will visit his brother Tony?

Juan Orlando Hernández - Wikipedia

"President Hernández's brother, Antonio 'Tony' Hernández, was convicted in the USA on drug trafficking charges and sentenced to life imprisonment.

"After Tony Hernández's conviction on 18 October 2019, 7,000 supporters of President Hernández, including members of the official National Party of Honduras, marched in Tegucigalpa.

"President Hernández criticized his brother's conviction as basado en testimonios de asesinos ('based on testimony from killers') and denied that Honduras has become a narco-state."

 

[georgephillip]

Relevance to anything?

Trump's greed, hypocrisy, and stupidity comes to mind, along with his base's slave-like devotion to his extra-legal assassinations and nation building.

How Trump kept Republicans behind his Maduro campaign

 

[struth]

Only if they agree to Trump’s terms. BTW where is Machado?

You mean Manduro? He’s in the same NYC jail that housed P Diddy

 

[kyzr]

And if we grabbed him and left you would be right
But we seized control of the country and gave the oil reserves to US Oil Companies=. invasion

We grabbed Maduro and left. We did not give VZ oil to anyone.
We invited the oil majors to rebuild the VZ oil infrastructure, and to develop oil production, with oil revenue belonging to VZ.
Not an "invasion".

 

[DonGlock26]

Since Trump says the US will now run Venezuela, how will he deal with the Venezuelan insurgents who control much of its rare earth minerals and deposits.

Vast tracts of Venezuelan territory rich in critical and rare earth minerals are now controlled by Colombian guerrillas. “They have many armed people. They control everything, and nothing has changed. The only difference is that now most of the Indigenous people are there, with them,” said a young Indigenous Venezuelan we’ll call Carlos* for security reasons. He described how the National Liberation Army (ELN) seized areas rich in coltan, tin ore, and rare earth elements in the southwest of the country. The ELN now sits at the center of a new mining boom.

Most extraction occurs in the Venezuelan states of Amazonas and Bolívar. In Amazonas, mining is prohibited by decree. In Bolívar, it is concentrated in the government-declared Orinoco Mining Arc, established in 2016. While exact timelines are hard to confirm, there is general agreement that rudimentary extraction began around 15 years ago in Cedeño municipality, near a site called Morichalito, close to the Parguaza area….

By 2010, as the global race for critical minerals accelerated, buyers began to appear and local miners were displaced from their extraction sites. Carlos and Josué said that hundreds of armed ELN combatants began seizing the most productive mining sites in 2023, bringing new workers to the region.

When the guerrillas took control, Indigenous leaders were coerced, threatened, or bought off by irregular forces. Those unwilling to work under the guerrilla regime could only work at night, in hidden mining sites.

In Amazonas and northwestern Bolívar, where most critical mineral mines are located, the ELN’s José Daniel Pérez Carrero front and the Acacio Medina Segunda Marquetalia Front, a former Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC) dissident group, operated in alliance, dividing territory and mines while sharing drug-trafficking routes.

View attachment 1200983

Invasion, Violence and Plunder in Southern Venezuela: The Price of Global Defense and 'Clean Technology' - Amazon Underworld

In the Colombian-Venezuelan borderlands — from the arid, rocky savanna areas near the Orinoco River to the dense, fertile stretches of the Amazon rainforest — lie some of the most coveted minerals on Earth. Their existence exposes a stark contradiction: the critical minerals essential for green...

amazonunderworld.org

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Trump admits his invasion was about controlling Venezuelan oil resources but it is also about rare earth minerals that are abundant in Venezuela.

The question is how will Trump access these resources. How many troops will Trump commit to gain access to these minerals.

Maduro could not control these resources, so how will the US.

Use Obama and Hillary's Libya plan?

 

[OODA_Loop]

Since Trump says the US will now run Venezuela, how will he deal with the Venezuelan insurgents who control much of its rare earth minerals and deposits.