How were the “experts” so wrong about 2024 election and will it carry to 2028?

[jotathought]

Harris was the better candidate. She proved it when she beat Trump in that debate. Whites voted for racism.

Harris was a gold medal DEI candidate who was placed into a candidacy for which she received ZERO votes. Hell, she was selected as Vice President because Biden backed himself into a corner to choose a black female candidate.

If whites voted on racism, why did so many (10+ million) Democrat constituents not vote for her?

 

[Independent thinker]

No. Most voters voted against Chump.

MAGAts have problems with election results.

Ummmmm, the MAGATs won and YOU’RE the one having problems with the election results.

 

[SweetTea]

Do you like the way Chump is requiring/acquiring interests in various corporations?

There is a fine line there for sure. I would think you lefties would be thrilled though. Mandami wants government run grocery stores. Let that sink in.

 

[JoeB131]

Harris was the better candidate. She proved it when she beat Trump in that debate. Whites voted for racism.

Okay, this is where I have to call bullshit on you again, which is becoming a daily thing.

Roper reports

How Groups Voted in 2024 | Roper Center for Public Opinion Research

TypeDemographicGroupHarrisTrumpSEXMen474355Women535345RACEWhite714257African-American118613Hispanic

ropercenter.cornell.edu

How Groups Voted in 2024 | Roper Center for Public Opinion Research

TypeDemographicGroupHarrisTrumpSEXMen474355Women535345RACEWhite714257African-American118613Hispanic

ropercenter.cornell.edu

White people voted 41% for Biden vs. 58% for Trump in 2020.
In 2024, they voted 42% for Harris and 57% for Trump.

The key point is that they jumped from 67% of the electorate in 2020 to 70% in 2024.

Black people voted 87% for Biden in 2020 (12% for Trump) in 2020.
They voted 86% for Harris and 13% for Trump in 2024.

Their share of the electorate shrank from 13 to 11%. So it was probably more a case of "not showing up".


Now, the two groups where Harris REALLY took a beating.

Hispanics, Harris' share shrank to 51% compared to Biden's 65%.
Asians, her share shrank to 55% from Bidens 61%.

Their share of the electorate also shrank (from 13 to 11 for Hispanics and from 4 to 3 for Asians)..

So why I know that you blame white folks for stubbing your toe in the morning, um, actually, you should probably be taking this up with Asians and Hispanics for not showing up for Harris.

Or for the Democrats being too stupid to realize that patriarchal immigrant communities aren't going to be that keen to vote for a woman to start with.

Good news for Democrats, is that Asian and Hispanics are now seeing ICE rosting their communities and they don't like it.

 

[JoeB131]

There is a fine line there for sure. I would think you lefties would be thrilled though. Mandami wants government run grocery stores. Let that sink in.

Why does that bother you?

The reason why the big chains don't set up in the poorer neighborhoods, forcing minorities to travel long distances to do simple shopping.

 

[SweetTea]

Why does that bother you?

The reason why the big chains don't set up in the poorer neighborhoods, forcing minorities to travel long distances to do simple shopping.

They would be an additional fiscal burden. They could undercut other privately run grocery stores. They would not be a fair player in the market. There are many reasons.

 

[JoeB131]

They would be an additional fiscal burden. They could undercut other privately run grocery stores. They would not be a fair player in the market. There are many reasons.

Okay, let's look at that.

Is it more of a fiscal burden than public transport taking people outside the food deserts to get their groceries?

If the private grocercy stores don't want to be undercut, they shouldn't abuse their customers. Yes, I mean the Quicky-Mart that sells overpriced and expired food because they know they have no competition.

I don't give a rat's ass about the market. The market has failed these people, time for the government to step up to the bat.

More than likely, these chains will reach some agreement with the city to set up stores for some kind of subsidy.

 

[SweetTea]

Okay, let's look at that.

Is it more of a fiscal burden than public transport taking people outside the food deserts to get their groceries?

If the private grocercy stores don't want to be undercut, they shouldn't abuse their customers. Yes, I mean the Quicky-Mart that sells overpriced and expired food because they know they have no competition.

I don't give a rat's ass about the market. The market has failed these people, time for the government to step up to the bat.

More than likely, these chains will reach some agreement with the city to set up stores for some kind of subsidy.

Yeah, you just aren’t a Capitalist. You are a Socialist(at best).

 

[JoeB131]

Yeah, you just aren’t a Capitalist. You are a Socialist(at best).

Naw, I'm a pragmatist.

I'm for what gets the job done.

The free market isn't getting the job done.

 

[ColonelAngus]

If everyone knew Kamala was going to lose, how did she raise and spend $1.5 billion in 107 days?



Is that the biggest pissing away of money in election history?

 

[SweetTea]

Naw, I'm a pragmatist.

I'm for what gets the job done.

The free market isn't getting the job done.

No, you believe in the Robin Hood theory.

Just because the free market doesn’t work for you and some others, doesn’t mean it doesn’t work. It worked for me. It worked for my wife’s first generation immigrant family. It works for many, which is exactly why so many want to come here(that and the freebees the Democrats are offering).

 

[22lcidw]

Okay, this is where I have to call bullshit on you again, which is becoming a daily thing.

Roper reports

How Groups Voted in 2024 | Roper Center for Public Opinion Research

TypeDemographicGroupHarrisTrumpSEXMen474355Women535345RACEWhite714257African-American118613Hispanic

ropercenter.cornell.edu

How Groups Voted in 2024 | Roper Center for Public Opinion Research

TypeDemographicGroupHarrisTrumpSEXMen474355Women535345RACEWhite714257African-American118613Hispanic

ropercenter.cornell.edu

White people voted 41% for Biden vs. 58% for Trump in 2020.
In 2024, they voted 42% for Harris and 57% for Trump.

The key point is that they jumped from 67% of the electorate in 2020 to 70% in 2024.

Black people voted 87% for Biden in 2020 (12% for Trump) in 2020.
They voted 86% for Harris and 13% for Trump in 2024.

Their share of the electorate shrank from 13 to 11%. So it was probably more a case of "not showing up".


Now, the two groups where Harris REALLY took a beating.

Hispanics, Harris' share shrank to 51% compared to Biden's 65%.
Asians, her share shrank to 55% from Bidens 61%.

Their share of the electorate also shrank (from 13 to 11 for Hispanics and from 4 to 3 for Asians)..

So why I know that you blame white folks for stubbing your toe in the morning, um, actually, you should probably be taking this up with Asians and Hispanics for not showing up for Harris.

Or for the Democrats being too stupid to realize that patriarchal immigrant communities aren't going to be that keen to vote for a woman to start with.

Good news for Democrats, is that Asian and Hispanics are now seeing ICE rosting their communities and they don't like it.

We are a higher tax nation now. If your answer is taxing people more, they will slow down. At least the producers in every type of employment who sees other getting the same and more for doing less. You have offered nothing since Trump was sworn in.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Harris was the better candidate. She proved it when she beat Trump in that debate. Whites voted for racism.

Harris was so awful she was coming in 4th in her own state Dem primary in 2020.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

No. Most voters voted against Chump.

MAGAts have problems with election results.

She was a moron, for sure, but I wouldn't call her Chump.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Okay, let's look at that.

Is it more of a fiscal burden than public transport taking people outside the food deserts to get their groceries?

If the private grocercy stores don't want to be undercut, they shouldn't abuse their customers. Yes, I mean the Quicky-Mart that sells overpriced and expired food because they know they have no competition.

I don't give a rat's ass about the market. The market has failed these people, time for the government to step up to the bat.

More than likely, these chains will reach some agreement with the city to set up stores for some kind of subsidy.

Is it more of a fiscal burden than public transport taking people outside the food deserts to get their groceries?

The fiscal burden of actually paying for the groceries they get at the store was
often what created the food desert in the first place.

The market has failed these people

Shoplifting caused the stores to close; the market works just fine.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Naw, I'm a pragmatist.

I'm for what gets the job done.

The free market isn't getting the job done.

Free market doesn't equal taking the stuff for free.

 

[pknopp]

They would be an additional fiscal burden. They could undercut other privately run grocery stores. They would not be a fair player in the market. There are many reasons.

I thought the private sector could always run more efficient and cheaper than government ran?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I thought the private sector could always run more efficient and cheaper than government ran?

It does, obviously.

 

[pknopp]

It does, obviously.

Then the concern is unjustified.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Then the concern is unjustified.

You're not concerned about government run, money losing stores driving
private stores out of business?