How Trump lost on china, and 300K jobs, and left us weaker to confront the aggression.

[bendog]

Trump is “losing the ‘Cold War’ with China,” former World Bank Director Robert Zoellick wrote last week in the Washington Post. The Republican is unsparing in his evaluation of Donald Trump’s signature trade war, which in retrospect was not easy to win, as Trump once wrote. Instead, it “forced [Trump] to spend $28 billion to compensate U.S. farmers,” and “stuck Americans with an annual bill for higher taxes on $350 billion of purchases from China.” Zoellick adds that “Moody’s Analytics estimated that Trump’s trade war with China has resulted in 300,000 fewer jobs being created in the United States.”

— Your host sees few arguments from conservatives in the Sinosphere that Trump has won this trade war. Pro-Trump arguments generally hold that engagement failed, that those efforts were naïve or that Democrats (or Trump critics) downplay or misunderstand the threat from Beijing. But after over three years of trade feuds, almost no one is saying the president, or America, got the better end of this bargain.

Here comes the China reckoning

www.politico.com

 

[Rambunctious]

This is ridiculous...the cold war has just begun....if Biden or Hillary were president China would still be lubing up to fuck us up the ass like they have been doing for decades with weak leaders like Obama Clinton and Bush.....

 

[pknopp]

This is ridiculous...the cold war has just begun....if Biden or Hillary were president China would still be lubing up to fuck us up the ass like they have been doing for decades with weak leaders like Obama Clinton and Bush.....

.......and Trump.

 

[Rigby5]

We should have had a trade war with China 40 years ago when they stole our consumer electronics industry. We should have had a trade war with China every year after that. Anyone who does not want a trade war with China is either an idiot or Chinese.

 

[Mac1958]

Trump is “losing the ‘Cold War’ with China,” former World Bank Director Robert Zoellick wrote last week in the Washington Post. The Republican is unsparing in his evaluation of Donald Trump’s signature trade war, which in retrospect was not easy to win, as Trump once wrote. Instead, it “forced [Trump] to spend $28 billion to compensate U.S. farmers,” and “stuck Americans with an annual bill for higher taxes on $350 billion of purchases from China.” Zoellick adds that “Moody’s Analytics estimated that Trump’s trade war with China has resulted in 300,000 fewer jobs being created in the United States.”

— Your host sees few arguments from conservatives in the Sinosphere that Trump has won this trade war. Pro-Trump arguments generally hold that engagement failed, that those efforts were naïve or that Democrats (or Trump critics) downplay or misunderstand the threat from Beijing. But after over three years of trade feuds, almost no one is saying the president, or America, got the better end of this bargain.

Here comes the China reckoning

www.politico.com

Trump's trade war caused an extended manufacturing recession.

He thought he could waltz in and bully world leaders like he bullied others throughout his life. Now they're laughing at us.

Arrogant ignorance.

 

[pknopp]

We should have had a trade war with China 40 years ago when they stole our consumer electronics industry. We should have had a trade war with China every year after that. Anyone who does not want a trade war with China is either an idiot or Chinese.

They didn't steal anything. Our industries freely went there. Our industries freely traded technology for cheap labor and fewer regulations.

 

[bendog]

Trump is “losing the ‘Cold War’ with China,” former World Bank Director Robert Zoellick wrote last week in the Washington Post. The Republican is unsparing in his evaluation of Donald Trump’s signature trade war, which in retrospect was not easy to win, as Trump once wrote. Instead, it “forced [Trump] to spend $28 billion to compensate U.S. farmers,” and “stuck Americans with an annual bill for higher taxes on $350 billion of purchases from China.” Zoellick adds that “Moody’s Analytics estimated that Trump’s trade war with China has resulted in 300,000 fewer jobs being created in the United States.”

— Your host sees few arguments from conservatives in the Sinosphere that Trump has won this trade war. Pro-Trump arguments generally hold that engagement failed, that those efforts were naïve or that Democrats (or Trump critics) downplay or misunderstand the threat from Beijing. But after over three years of trade feuds, almost no one is saying the president, or America, got the better end of this bargain.

Here comes the China reckoning

www.politico.com

Trump's trade war caused an extended manufacturing recession.

He thought he could waltz in and bully world leaders like he bullied others throughout his life. Now they're laughing at us.

Arrogant ignorance.

yeah, but it's not like either the Clintons or Bushes were going to do anything. But yeah … he pisses everyone off by being an asshole, but when push comes to shove, he's just a bully.

The only positive gained since 16 that I can see is that the rest of the West is a lot more worried about China as a predator than in 16. And the mainstream gop shit about Russia being our biggest adversary is pretty much gone. But the West hates us too now

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Trump is “losing the ‘Cold War’ with China,” former World Bank Director Robert Zoellick wrote last week in the Washington Post. The Republican is unsparing in his evaluation of Donald Trump’s signature trade war, which in retrospect was not easy to win, as Trump once wrote. Instead, it “forced [Trump] to spend $28 billion to compensate U.S. farmers,” and “stuck Americans with an annual bill for higher taxes on $350 billion of purchases from China.” Zoellick adds that “Moody’s Analytics estimated that Trump’s trade war with China has resulted in 300,000 fewer jobs being created in the United States.”

— Your host sees few arguments from conservatives in the Sinosphere that Trump has won this trade war. Pro-Trump arguments generally hold that engagement failed, that those efforts were naïve or that Democrats (or Trump critics) downplay or misunderstand the threat from Beijing. But after over three years of trade feuds, almost no one is saying the president, or America, got the better end of this bargain.

Here comes the China reckoning

www.politico.com

Trump's trade war caused an extended manufacturing recession.

He thought he could waltz in and bully world leaders like he bullied others throughout his life. Now they're laughing at us.

Arrogant ignorance.

Extended manufacturing recession? LMAO!

You mean the one obie said was never coming back and Trump needed a magic wand to fix?

 

[pknopp]

Trump is “losing the ‘Cold War’ with China,” former World Bank Director Robert Zoellick wrote last week in the Washington Post. The Republican is unsparing in his evaluation of Donald Trump’s signature trade war, which in retrospect was not easy to win, as Trump once wrote. Instead, it “forced [Trump] to spend $28 billion to compensate U.S. farmers,” and “stuck Americans with an annual bill for higher taxes on $350 billion of purchases from China.” Zoellick adds that “Moody’s Analytics estimated that Trump’s trade war with China has resulted in 300,000 fewer jobs being created in the United States.”

— Your host sees few arguments from conservatives in the Sinosphere that Trump has won this trade war. Pro-Trump arguments generally hold that engagement failed, that those efforts were naïve or that Democrats (or Trump critics) downplay or misunderstand the threat from Beijing. But after over three years of trade feuds, almost no one is saying the president, or America, got the better end of this bargain.

Here comes the China reckoning

www.politico.com

Trump's trade war caused an extended manufacturing recession.

He thought he could waltz in and bully world leaders like he bullied others throughout his life. Now they're laughing at us.

Arrogant ignorance.

Extended manufacturing recession? LMAO!

You mean the one obie said was never coming back and Trump needed a magic wand to fix?

So far Obama has been correct.

 

[Mac-7]

Your host sees few arguments from conservatives in the Sinosphere that Trump has won this trade war.

Of course trump has not “won” the trade war.

just as the Battle of France or Pearl Harbor were just the opening rounds in WWII, this war has only just started

no one can reverse 40 years of bad trade policy in 4 years

but the effort must begin somewhere and sometime

Surrender monkeys like the one who wrote this opinion piece do not even want to make the effort

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Trump is “losing the ‘Cold War’ with China,” former World Bank Director Robert Zoellick wrote last week in the Washington Post. The Republican is unsparing in his evaluation of Donald Trump’s signature trade war, which in retrospect was not easy to win, as Trump once wrote. Instead, it “forced [Trump] to spend $28 billion to compensate U.S. farmers,” and “stuck Americans with an annual bill for higher taxes on $350 billion of purchases from China.” Zoellick adds that “Moody’s Analytics estimated that Trump’s trade war with China has resulted in 300,000 fewer jobs being created in the United States.”

— Your host sees few arguments from conservatives in the Sinosphere that Trump has won this trade war. Pro-Trump arguments generally hold that engagement failed, that those efforts were naïve or that Democrats (or Trump critics) downplay or misunderstand the threat from Beijing. But after over three years of trade feuds, almost no one is saying the president, or America, got the better end of this bargain.

Here comes the China reckoning

www.politico.com

Trump's trade war caused an extended manufacturing recession.

He thought he could waltz in and bully world leaders like he bullied others throughout his life. Now they're laughing at us.

Arrogant ignorance.

You lefties are to narrow sighted to even grasp what is necessary. If China thought for a second that the left would also demand fair practice from them (I know, hilarious) they would have already capitulated.

 

[Mac-7]

He thought he could waltz in and bully world leaders like he bullied others throughout his life. Now they're laughing at us.

And nothing could make you happier than the thought of trump losing

actually the libs running the EU and canada are pretty stupid if the prefer to see china rule the world if it means giving trump a black eye

that goes for you too

 

[Mac1958]

Trump is “losing the ‘Cold War’ with China,” former World Bank Director Robert Zoellick wrote last week in the Washington Post. The Republican is unsparing in his evaluation of Donald Trump’s signature trade war, which in retrospect was not easy to win, as Trump once wrote. Instead, it “forced [Trump] to spend $28 billion to compensate U.S. farmers,” and “stuck Americans with an annual bill for higher taxes on $350 billion of purchases from China.” Zoellick adds that “Moody’s Analytics estimated that Trump’s trade war with China has resulted in 300,000 fewer jobs being created in the United States.”

— Your host sees few arguments from conservatives in the Sinosphere that Trump has won this trade war. Pro-Trump arguments generally hold that engagement failed, that those efforts were naïve or that Democrats (or Trump critics) downplay or misunderstand the threat from Beijing. But after over three years of trade feuds, almost no one is saying the president, or America, got the better end of this bargain.

Here comes the China reckoning

www.politico.com

Trump's trade war caused an extended manufacturing recession.

He thought he could waltz in and bully world leaders like he bullied others throughout his life. Now they're laughing at us.

Arrogant ignorance.

Extended manufacturing recession? LMAO!

You mean the one obie said was never coming back and Trump needed a magic wand to fix?

Um, no. It lasted throughout 2019. If you were to google "manufacturing recession 2019" you could probably learn about it.

I'm not surprised you didn't know about it, given how much is kept from you in your universe. That's not my fault.

 

[Juicin]

Trump is “losing the ‘Cold War’ with China,” former World Bank Director Robert Zoellick wrote last week in the Washington Post. The Republican is unsparing in his evaluation of Donald Trump’s signature trade war, which in retrospect was not easy to win, as Trump once wrote. Instead, it “forced [Trump] to spend $28 billion to compensate U.S. farmers,” and “stuck Americans with an annual bill for higher taxes on $350 billion of purchases from China.” Zoellick adds that “Moody’s Analytics estimated that Trump’s trade war with China has resulted in 300,000 fewer jobs being created in the United States.”

— Your host sees few arguments from conservatives in the Sinosphere that Trump has won this trade war. Pro-Trump arguments generally hold that engagement failed, that those efforts were naïve or that Democrats (or Trump critics) downplay or misunderstand the threat from Beijing. But after over three years of trade feuds, almost no one is saying the president, or America, got the better end of this bargain.

Here comes the China reckoning

www.politico.com

oh wow moody's says so

LOL

do you know what moody's is? Do not cite them in any context

We haven't lost the trade war until China can push us out of their regional sphere of influence

 

[Mac1958]

Trump is “losing the ‘Cold War’ with China,” former World Bank Director Robert Zoellick wrote last week in the Washington Post. The Republican is unsparing in his evaluation of Donald Trump’s signature trade war, which in retrospect was not easy to win, as Trump once wrote. Instead, it “forced [Trump] to spend $28 billion to compensate U.S. farmers,” and “stuck Americans with an annual bill for higher taxes on $350 billion of purchases from China.” Zoellick adds that “Moody’s Analytics estimated that Trump’s trade war with China has resulted in 300,000 fewer jobs being created in the United States.”

— Your host sees few arguments from conservatives in the Sinosphere that Trump has won this trade war. Pro-Trump arguments generally hold that engagement failed, that those efforts were naïve or that Democrats (or Trump critics) downplay or misunderstand the threat from Beijing. But after over three years of trade feuds, almost no one is saying the president, or America, got the better end of this bargain.

Here comes the China reckoning

www.politico.com

Trump's trade war caused an extended manufacturing recession.

He thought he could waltz in and bully world leaders like he bullied others throughout his life. Now they're laughing at us.

Arrogant ignorance.

You lefties are to narrow sighted to even grasp what is necessary. If China thought for a second that the left would also demand fair practice from them (I know, hilarious) they would have already capitulated.

Trump did what Trump did. No deflection can erase that.

 

[Mac1958]

He thought he could waltz in and bully world leaders like he bullied others throughout his life. Now they're laughing at us.

And nothing could make you happier than the thought of trump losing

actually the libs running the EU and canada are pretty stupid if the prefer to see china rule the world if it means giving trump a black eye

that goes for you too

Since we have abdicated our position in the world, I'm very hopeful that Germany will be able to work with the EU to keep Russia and China from winning this.

Trump gave America a black eye with his trademark arrogant ignorance.

 

[toobfreak]

How Trump lost on china, and 300K jobs, and left us weaker to confront the aggression

Moderators need to move this from Politics to the Fiction Section.

 

[TheGreatSatan]

When I see threads like this, I become even more confident in the coming victory. We will also pick up hella seats in both houses. The demand to lock them up will be met.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Trump is “losing the ‘Cold War’ with China,” former World Bank Director Robert Zoellick wrote last week in the Washington Post. The Republican is unsparing in his evaluation of Donald Trump’s signature trade war, which in retrospect was not easy to win, as Trump once wrote. Instead, it “forced [Trump] to spend $28 billion to compensate U.S. farmers,” and “stuck Americans with an annual bill for higher taxes on $350 billion of purchases from China.” Zoellick adds that “Moody’s Analytics estimated that Trump’s trade war with China has resulted in 300,000 fewer jobs being created in the United States.”

— Your host sees few arguments from conservatives in the Sinosphere that Trump has won this trade war. Pro-Trump arguments generally hold that engagement failed, that those efforts were naïve or that Democrats (or Trump critics) downplay or misunderstand the threat from Beijing. But after over three years of trade feuds, almost no one is saying the president, or America, got the better end of this bargain.

Here comes the China reckoning

www.politico.com

Trump's trade war caused an extended manufacturing recession.

He thought he could waltz in and bully world leaders like he bullied others throughout his life. Now they're laughing at us.

Arrogant ignorance.

Extended manufacturing recession? LMAO!

You mean the one obie said was never coming back and Trump needed a magic wand to fix?

Um, no. It lasted throughout 2019. If you were to google "manufacturing recession 2019" you could probably learn about it.

I'm not surprised you didn't know about it, given how much is kept from you in your universe. That's not my fault.

Holy shit. You mean to tell me it took a couple years for policy changes to begin showing good signs? That sounds like an admission if we kept doing the obie stupid shit then he would be right and the jobs would never come back.

 

[Mac1958]

Trump is “losing the ‘Cold War’ with China,” former World Bank Director Robert Zoellick wrote last week in the Washington Post. The Republican is unsparing in his evaluation of Donald Trump’s signature trade war, which in retrospect was not easy to win, as Trump once wrote. Instead, it “forced [Trump] to spend $28 billion to compensate U.S. farmers,” and “stuck Americans with an annual bill for higher taxes on $350 billion of purchases from China.” Zoellick adds that “Moody’s Analytics estimated that Trump’s trade war with China has resulted in 300,000 fewer jobs being created in the United States.”

— Your host sees few arguments from conservatives in the Sinosphere that Trump has won this trade war. Pro-Trump arguments generally hold that engagement failed, that those efforts were naïve or that Democrats (or Trump critics) downplay or misunderstand the threat from Beijing. But after over three years of trade feuds, almost no one is saying the president, or America, got the better end of this bargain.

Here comes the China reckoning

www.politico.com

Trump's trade war caused an extended manufacturing recession.

He thought he could waltz in and bully world leaders like he bullied others throughout his life. Now they're laughing at us.

Arrogant ignorance.

Extended manufacturing recession? LMAO!

You mean the one obie said was never coming back and Trump needed a magic wand to fix?

Um, no. It lasted throughout 2019. If you were to google "manufacturing recession 2019" you could probably learn about it.

I'm not surprised you didn't know about it, given how much is kept from you in your universe. That's not my fault.

Holy shit. You mean to tell me it took a couple years for policy changes to begin showing good signs? That sounds like an admission if we kept doing the obie stupid shit then he would be right and the jobs would never come back.

"But Obama"

It had nothing to do with Obama, but I'm glad to see that's the best you can do.

This is what happens when you Trumpsters choose to exist in an informational bubble. You didn't even KNOW.