How To Tell If You Have Been Indoctrinated

[jwoodie]

1. You vote just to hurt people

Like constant wars?

2. You base your vote on one issue

Like abortion?

3. You catch your "leader" in lie after lie but still believe him

Like Joe Biden?

4. You think "morals" are laws.

Like men and women?

5. Your whole life is based around "owning" the opposition

Like capitalism?

6. You think it's OK to kill funding for things that are keeping people alive.

Like Covid-19?

7. you think this View attachment 1076613 is a symbol of freedom and culture.

You don't think this is a symbol of antebellum Southern culture?

8. I think you are getting the picture...

A picture may be worth a thousand words, but it is no substitute for critical thinking.

 

[Dante]

"Trump's cult" eh?

You should immediately resign your position.

To attempt to deny Trump is surrounded by a cult-of-personality is to declare yourself a complete and total loser.

Why deny the truth? Why?

 

[BluesLegend]

What does that have to do with the specifics of the OP?


I provided an objective test that has nothing to do with "plugging your ears and yell NAH NAH NAH NAH NAH whenever anyone says something that conflicts...."

I summed up the left. You have to dumb it down for them.

 

[PoliticalChic]

How many people did Karl Marx kill, was it as many as Christ?

"Over the past 100 years the most oppressive ideology in the world has been communism [Marxism]. While the people who lived under it were starved, tortured and murdered, its leaders lived in luxury.
The suppression of ordinary people by their communist rulers far surpasses anything capitalist employers were ever accused of doing. While condemning exploitation, communist dictators turned out to be masters at it.

a. R.J. Rummel estimates that almost 170 million people were killed in the 20th century by their own governments. These are not deaths in war. They are the victims of genocide by the governments in the countries where they lived. Hate on the Left

Some people blame organized religion for most of history's killings. It is also sometimes claimed that more people have been killed in the name of Christ than for any other reason.



The total number of deaths estimated to lie at the feet of humanity's poor practice of Christianity is approximately 17 million. This number would include ancient wars, the Crusades, the Inquisitions, various European wars during the Middle Ages, and witchcraft trials.

Isn't religion to blame for most of history's killings?

 

[PoliticalChic]

To attempt to deny Trump is surrounded by a cult-of-personality is to declare yourself a complete and total loser.

Why deny the truth? Why?

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Who was a better President for America, Trump or Biden?


Be prepared to defend your answer.

 

[PoliticalChic]

There is a constant attack on Senator Jos McCarthy, who did nothing more than warn of the dangers of communist in positions of power and sensitive positions in our government.

Many, generally Democrats, who buy all sorts of lies, have been raised to believe the claims.


The OP contained this denouement, which none have addressed.......


“Name one innocent American whose life was ruined by Senator Joseph McCarthy.”

 

[Foxfyre]

Signs of being indoctrinated: believing what is written by SimpleChic and Foxfyre.

PoliticalChic and Foxfyre can back up pretty much everything they post with logic, reason, scholarship, credible sources, verifiable facts.

The indoctrinated post stupid stuff about people--like you did here--without being able to show a shred of evidence for what they post. That's how you know they are indoctrinated.

 

[Moonglow]

"Over the past 100 years the most oppressive ideology in the world has been communism [Marxism]. While the people who lived under it were starved, tortured and murdered, its leaders lived in luxury.
The suppression of ordinary people by their communist rulers far surpasses anything capitalist employers were ever accused of doing. While condemning exploitation, communist dictators turned out to be masters at it.

a. R.J. Rummel estimates that almost 170 million people were killed in the 20th century by their own governments. These are not deaths in war. They are the victims of genocide by the governments in the countries where they lived. Hate on the Left

Some people blame organized religion for most of history's killings. It is also sometimes claimed that more people have been killed in the name of Christ than for any other reason.



The total number of deaths estimated to lie at the feet of humanity's poor practice of Christianity is approximately 17 million. This number would include ancient wars, the Crusades, the Inquisitions, various European wars during the Middle Ages, and witchcraft trials.

Isn't religion to blame for most of history's killings?

That was not real Marxist communism and you know it, it was not a stateless state, in fact, the same wealth supported the leaders of the Tsar and Stalin, just as they did Hitler and Mussolini. By the way, this is not how Marx's theory was supposed to be played out....So now let us stop and think that if one human was killed in the name of Christ or for the glory of Christ, or by a Christian it is a thousand times worse than someone who killed for a failed economic theory, why, Christ said to love yer enemies not kill them.

 

[Moonglow]

There is a constant attack on Senator Jos McCarthy, who did nothing more than warn of the dangers of communist in positions of power and sensitive positions in our government.

Many, generally Democrats, who buy all sorts of lies, have been raised to believe the claims.


The OP contained this denouement, which none have addressed.......


“Name one innocent American whose life was ruined by Senator Joseph McCarthy.”

Nobody but you tries to raise the dead.

 

[j-mac]

Why does it have to be new? It's just as true now as it was last week.

Or you're so scared shitless, that you're just lashing out without thinking,...either or, I don't care....You just another internet idiot.....Plenty of those....

 

[j-mac]

To attempt to deny Trump is surrounded by a cult-of-personality is to declare yourself a complete and total loser.

Why deny the truth? Why?

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I'm just witnessing dumbasses like yourself losing it....

I know you guy's are for the most part brain dead, but for the 56th time, We don't give a goat's shit what you people say....Your reign is OVER!

 

[PoliticalChic]

I'm just witnessing dumbasses like yourself losing it....

I know you guy's are for the most part brain dead, but for the 56th time, We don't give a goat's shit what you people say....Your reign is OVER!

Truly a phenomenon.


They've lost the argument, and the election.

They could simply remain silent, and a number of them have.

They could revisit the lies and see where they were manipulated.

They could admit being fooled.


Or they could pretend that they don't know how wrong they have been. As this loser has.

 

[j-mac]

Truly a phenomenon.


They've lost the argument, and the election.

They could simply remain silent, and a number of them have.

They could revisit the lies and see where they were manipulated.

They could admit being fooled.


Or they could pretend that they don't know how wrong they have been. As this loser has.

I think most in here, or should I say at least the real ones and not the troll bots, will try and pretend because they have nothing else.....

What everyone should do, is just simply ignore them, and talk about them, instead of to them, like Mac1958 does.....I bet he can't take it shoved back at him.....lol

 

[Foxfyre]

McCarthy was spot on. Look at history during the 60's, where the seeds of radical ideology were planted and morphed out political left idealists. Look at where those 60's radicals ended up, in government and higher education. Now colleges push Marxist/Communist anti-American view points.

Palestine/Israel protests anyone?

Yuri Brezmenov explains in an excellent video presentation how it's done.

McCarthy's point of view, intention and goals were good on the face of them. It was the over zealous application of them that became lawfare/weaponized government that made McCarthyism 'evil.' What they did to Oppenheimer, for example, was little short of criminal.

But the objective, non-indoctrinated, educated can separate the intent, goals, reasons for them out in the historical documents. They can hold up a concept or principle or action as valuable and important to support/promote while rejecting the wrongful application of them in some cases.

It's like the objective, non-indoctrinated, educated can separate Donald J. Trump's less exemplary side from his sincere and honorable MAGA goals of fixing what's broken in government and promoting a free, strong, prosperous America with liberty, options, choices, opportunity, prosperity for all Americans that is the MAGA vision.

(Terrible run on sentence I know but I got it all in there. )

The indoctrinated cannot do that. They promote every lie, falsehood, exaggeration, distortion that fits their narrative while rejecting anything that would expose their narrative as a lie/falsehood/exaggeration/distortion.

 

[PoliticalChic]

The importance of the lies about McCarthy are the original sin of Leftism/Socialism/Democrat theology.


“On September 2, 1939, the day after the outbreak of war in Europe, Whittaker Chambers had told much of what he knew about Soviet espionage in the United States to Adolph Berle, Assistant Secretary of State and President’s Roosevelt’s advisor on internal security. Immediately afterwards, Berle drew up a memorandum for the President which listed Alger Hiss, Harry Dexter White and the other leading communists for whom Chambers acted as courier. One was a leading presidential aide, Lauchlin Currie….Roosevelt, however, was not interested. He seems to have dismissed the whole idea of espionage rings within his administration as absurd.” ‘The Sword and the Shield: The Mitrokhin Archives, the History of the KGB,” by Christopher Andrew and Vasili Mitrokhin.p.107



As Hitler marched into Poland, Whittaker Chambers arranged a private meeting with Adolf Berle, President Roosevelt’s assistant Sec’y of State. Chambers detailed the Communist espionage network, naming at least two dozen Soviet spies in Roosevelt’s administration, including Alger Hiss. Berle reported this to Roosevelt, who laughed, and told Berle to go f--- himself.
Arthur Herman, Joseph McCarthy: Reexaming the Life and Legacy of America’s Most Hated Senator, p. 60.


a. No action was taken, and in fact, Roosevelt promoted Hiss. Almost a decade later, Chambers was called before the HUAC and named Hiss as a Soviet agent. Hiss sued Chambers, at which time Chambers presented “… four notes in Alger Hiss's handwriting, sixty-five typewritten copies of State Department documents and five strips of microfilm, some of which contained photographs of State Department documents. The press came to call these the"PumpkinPapers" Whittaker Chambers - Wikipedia)


January 25th, 1950 Alger Hiss sentenced for perjury for denying he was a Soviet spy (see Jan. 21). Dean Acheson, Truman’s Sec’y of State, said:
“I do not intend to turn my back on Alger Hiss.”

 

[PoliticalChic]

I think most in here, or should I say at least the real ones and not the troll bots, will try and pretend because they have nothing else.....

What everyone should do, is just simply ignore them, and talk about them, instead of to them, like Mac1958 does.....I bet he can't take it shoved back at him.....lol

I would rather spot-light them in these threads.

They need to serve as examples of the damage Democrats have done.

 

[lennypartiv]

There is a much easier one question test. Are you a liberal? If yes, you have been indoctrinated, as no thinking human being would otherwise support their silly nonsense.

Of course the problem is the DEI loving liberals who always side with the blacks, Jews, Hispanics and other minorities.

 

[PoliticalChic]

McCarthy was, of course, correct, and everyone who ever accepted the lies about him being unAmerican have been indoctrinated..



The thrust is that it was McCarthyism, more than Soviet espionage or Communism infiltration of government, that was – in the words of the October 23, 1998, NYTimes editorial, “a lethal threat to American democracy.” This, in the same editorial that admitted that the evidence against Julius Rosenberg, and “most likely” Alger Hiss, was clear.

The deciphered Venona messages document the CPUSA’s integral role in the Soviet Union’s massive espionage against the US.




Senator Joe McCarthy confronted government officials concealing communist involvement and excessively lax security with regards to Communists in sensitive U.S. Government posts. In many cases he was on target, with over 81 of the names he gave the Tydings committee resulting in resignations or movement of security risks. Given that over 200 of the spies uncovered in the Venona decrypts were never identified, we can only speculate as to the national security impact of removing Communists from key DoD and State Dept posts.



Arthur Herman, author of "Joseph McCarthy: Reexamining the Life and Legacy of America's Most Hated Senator," says that the accuracy of McCarthy's charges "was no longer a matter of debate," that they are "now accepted as fact."

And The New York Post's Eric Fettmann has noted: "growing historical evidence underscores that, whatever his rhetorical and investigative excesses - and they were substantial - McCarthy was a lot closer to the truth about Communism than were his foes."




Whittaker Chambers wrote in his book WITNESS that liberals are/were incapable of ever effectively fighting Communism because they did not see anything in Communism that was antithetical to their own beliefs. In short, Liberals are Communists and Communists are Liberals.

 

[Moonglow]

Of course the problem is the DEI loving liberals who always side with the blacks, Jews, Hispanics and other minorities.

If they be as intolerable as the MAGATs we are better off without either.

 

[j-mac]

I would rather spot-light them in these threads.

They need to serve as examples of the damage Democrats have done.

IDK, These idiots in here aren't representative of the Dems in polling....There's so many stories out there on how they're rudderless, and infighting, that it's hard to take these clown's seriously....