daveman
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Democrats have always loved the Soviets.
How To Tell If You Have Been Indoctrinated
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Mac1958
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I wasn't engaging a Trumpster. Maybe you missed that.
Neither your agreement nor your approval are required. Don't read my posts.
Stryder50
Platinum Member
"McCarthy" is a trigger word to many, and the larger damage is how it is mis-applied and mis-used. This is especially true in the case of the Leftist political ideologies which in usual have vague and imprecise techniques they use, the term "McCarthyism"~etc. has been applied to many things it was not!
Too often McCarthyism is blended with/confused with something in play before and after McCarty was on the stage.
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The House Committee on Un-American Activities (HCUA), popularly the House Un-American Activities Committee (HUAC), was an investigative committee of the United States House of Representatives, created in 1938 to investigate alleged disloyalty and subversive activities on the part of private citizens, public employees, and those organizations suspected of having fascist and communist ties. It became a standing (permanent) committee in 1946, and from 1969 onwards it was known as the House Committee on Internal Security. When the House abolished the committee in 1975,[1] its functions were transferred to the House Judiciary Committee.
The committee's anti-communist investigations are often associated with McCarthyism, although Joseph McCarthy himself (as a U.S. Senator) had no direct involvement with the House committee.[2][3] McCarthy was the chairman of the Government Operations Committee and its Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations of the U.S. Senate, not the House.
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In 1947, the committee held nine days of hearings into alleged communist propaganda and influence in the Hollywood motion picture industry. After conviction on contempt of Congress charges for refusal to answer some questions posed by committee members, "The Hollywood Ten" were blacklisted by the industry. Eventually, more than 300 artists – including directors, radio commentators, actors, and particularly screenwriters – were boycotted by the studios. Some, like Charlie Chaplin, Orson Welles, Alan Lomax, Paul Robeson, and Yip Harburg, left the U.S or went underground to find work. Others like Dalton Trumbo wrote under pseudonyms or the names of colleagues. Only about ten percent succeeded in rebuilding careers within the entertainment industry.
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en.wikipedia.org
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Many, and most often it is the Left~pseudo-LIberals, conflate the HUAC with McCarthy and "McCarthyism". The two were distinct and different however. Aside from the longer duration of HUAC compared to McCarthy's activities, a major difference is focus.
McCarthy was focused on Communist 'agents' within the Federal Government*, Civil and Military; whereas HUAC focused mainly in other parts of American society, mostly the entertainment industries; actors, writers, etc.
* While many, mostly on the Left, would minimumize McCarthy's focus and efforts as being fabrications, it turns out that years later, when the Vernona Project was declassified, that many on McCarthy's 'List' actually were agents for the Soviets.
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The Venona project was a United States counterintelligence program initiated during World War II by the United States Army's Signal Intelligence Service and later absorbed by the National Security Agency (NSA), that ran from February 1, 1943, until October 1, 1980.[1] It was intended to decrypt messages transmitted by the intelligence agencies of the Soviet Union (e.g. the NKVD, the KGB, and the GRU).[2] Initiated when the Soviet Union was an ally of the US, the program continued during the Cold War, when the Soviet Union was considered an enemy.
During the 37-year duration of the Venona project, the Signal Intelligence Service decrypted and translated approximately 3,000 messages.[3] The signals intelligence yield included discovery of the Cambridge Five espionage ring in the United Kingdom,[4] and also of Soviet espionage of the Manhattan Project in the US,[5] known as Project Enormous. Some of the espionage was undertaken to support the Soviet atomic bomb project.[6] The Venona project remained secret for more than 15 years after it concluded. Some of the decoded Soviet messages were not declassified and published by the United States until 1995.
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For much of its history, knowledge of Venona was restricted even from the highest levels of government. Senior army officers, in consultation with the FBI and CIA, made the decision to restrict knowledge of Venona within the government (even the CIA was not made an active partner until 1952). Army Chief of Staff Omar Bradley, concerned about the White House's history of leaking sensitive information, decided to deny President Truman direct knowledge of the project. The president received the substance of the material only through FBI, Justice Department, and CIA reports on counterintelligence and intelligence matters. He was not told the material came from decoded Soviet ciphers. To some degree this secrecy was counter-productive; Truman was distrustful of FBI head J. Edgar Hoover and suspected the reports were exaggerated for political purposes.
Some of the earliest detailed public knowledge that Soviet code messages from World War II had been broken came with the release of Chapman Pincher's book, Too Secret Too Long, in 1984. Robert Lamphere's book, The FBI-KGB War, was released in 1986. Lamphere had been the FBI liaison to the code-breaking activity and had considerable knowledge of Venona and the counter-intelligence work that resulted from it. However, the first detailed account of the Venona project, identifying it by name and making clear its long-term implications in post-war espionage, was contained in MI5 assistant director Peter Wright's 1987 memoir, Spycatcher.
Many inside the NSA had argued internally that the time had come to publicly release the details of the Venona project, but it was not until 1995 that the bipartisan Commission on Government Secrecy, with Senator Moynihan as chairman, released Venona project materials. ...
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en.wikipedia.org
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As we see all too often here, ignorance drives many mis-conceptions and 'fake news'.
Too often McCarthyism is blended with/confused with something in play before and after McCarty was on the stage.
...
The House Committee on Un-American Activities (HCUA), popularly the House Un-American Activities Committee (HUAC), was an investigative committee of the United States House of Representatives, created in 1938 to investigate alleged disloyalty and subversive activities on the part of private citizens, public employees, and those organizations suspected of having fascist and communist ties. It became a standing (permanent) committee in 1946, and from 1969 onwards it was known as the House Committee on Internal Security. When the House abolished the committee in 1975,[1] its functions were transferred to the House Judiciary Committee.
The committee's anti-communist investigations are often associated with McCarthyism, although Joseph McCarthy himself (as a U.S. Senator) had no direct involvement with the House committee.[2][3] McCarthy was the chairman of the Government Operations Committee and its Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations of the U.S. Senate, not the House.
...
In 1947, the committee held nine days of hearings into alleged communist propaganda and influence in the Hollywood motion picture industry. After conviction on contempt of Congress charges for refusal to answer some questions posed by committee members, "The Hollywood Ten" were blacklisted by the industry. Eventually, more than 300 artists – including directors, radio commentators, actors, and particularly screenwriters – were boycotted by the studios. Some, like Charlie Chaplin, Orson Welles, Alan Lomax, Paul Robeson, and Yip Harburg, left the U.S or went underground to find work. Others like Dalton Trumbo wrote under pseudonyms or the names of colleagues. Only about ten percent succeeded in rebuilding careers within the entertainment industry.
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House Un-American Activities Committee - Wikipedia
Many, and most often it is the Left~pseudo-LIberals, conflate the HUAC with McCarthy and "McCarthyism". The two were distinct and different however. Aside from the longer duration of HUAC compared to McCarthy's activities, a major difference is focus.
McCarthy was focused on Communist 'agents' within the Federal Government*, Civil and Military; whereas HUAC focused mainly in other parts of American society, mostly the entertainment industries; actors, writers, etc.
* While many, mostly on the Left, would minimumize McCarthy's focus and efforts as being fabrications, it turns out that years later, when the Vernona Project was declassified, that many on McCarthy's 'List' actually were agents for the Soviets.
...
The Venona project was a United States counterintelligence program initiated during World War II by the United States Army's Signal Intelligence Service and later absorbed by the National Security Agency (NSA), that ran from February 1, 1943, until October 1, 1980.[1] It was intended to decrypt messages transmitted by the intelligence agencies of the Soviet Union (e.g. the NKVD, the KGB, and the GRU).[2] Initiated when the Soviet Union was an ally of the US, the program continued during the Cold War, when the Soviet Union was considered an enemy.
During the 37-year duration of the Venona project, the Signal Intelligence Service decrypted and translated approximately 3,000 messages.[3] The signals intelligence yield included discovery of the Cambridge Five espionage ring in the United Kingdom,[4] and also of Soviet espionage of the Manhattan Project in the US,[5] known as Project Enormous. Some of the espionage was undertaken to support the Soviet atomic bomb project.[6] The Venona project remained secret for more than 15 years after it concluded. Some of the decoded Soviet messages were not declassified and published by the United States until 1995.
...
For much of its history, knowledge of Venona was restricted even from the highest levels of government. Senior army officers, in consultation with the FBI and CIA, made the decision to restrict knowledge of Venona within the government (even the CIA was not made an active partner until 1952). Army Chief of Staff Omar Bradley, concerned about the White House's history of leaking sensitive information, decided to deny President Truman direct knowledge of the project. The president received the substance of the material only through FBI, Justice Department, and CIA reports on counterintelligence and intelligence matters. He was not told the material came from decoded Soviet ciphers. To some degree this secrecy was counter-productive; Truman was distrustful of FBI head J. Edgar Hoover and suspected the reports were exaggerated for political purposes.
Some of the earliest detailed public knowledge that Soviet code messages from World War II had been broken came with the release of Chapman Pincher's book, Too Secret Too Long, in 1984. Robert Lamphere's book, The FBI-KGB War, was released in 1986. Lamphere had been the FBI liaison to the code-breaking activity and had considerable knowledge of Venona and the counter-intelligence work that resulted from it. However, the first detailed account of the Venona project, identifying it by name and making clear its long-term implications in post-war espionage, was contained in MI5 assistant director Peter Wright's 1987 memoir, Spycatcher.
Many inside the NSA had argued internally that the time had come to publicly release the details of the Venona project, but it was not until 1995 that the bipartisan Commission on Government Secrecy, with Senator Moynihan as chairman, released Venona project materials. ...
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Venona project - Wikipedia
As we see all too often here, ignorance drives many mis-conceptions and 'fake news'.
TemplarKormac
Political Atheist
No, I noticed who you were talking to. Communicating with another leftist like another leftist would.
You were using the left's language. Name-calling, pejoratives, and provocative language regarding Trump supporters. If you truly were an expert on how both sides behave, you wouldn't be behaving like one of them.
And since you post here, you seek agreement or approval of other people on this board. If you neither seek agreement nor approval, then perhaps you should cease posting here. Simple. Otherwise, get used to the idea that people will agree, disagree, approve, or disapprove of your posts.
But spare us the visage of being totally disabused of the machinations of both sides. You're not fooling anyone.
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Dante
"The Libido for the Ugly"
Unlike you and people on Jan 6 -- we do not stamp our feet and whine about losing calling it steals.
Pouting? Trump classic
Stryder50
Platinum Member
Sorry Charlie, but: "Russian Collusion",
"Election stolen from S'Hillary",
'Not the will of the "people" ',
etc. ring any bells ????
Or is this another occasion when you lie, distort, dis-inform, misrepresent, and in many other ways show as a piece of human bottom dwelling scum ??? !!!
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Untold hundreds of millions have been killed by bad people in the name of Christ. The above source is not verifiable.
It's difficult to provide an exact number, as historical records vary and many incidents may not have been documented. However, it's widely acknowledged that throughout history, numerous conflicts, wars, and acts of violence have been justified in the name of Christianity. These include events like the Crusades, the Spanish Inquisition, and various religious wars and persecutions.
It's important to note that these actions were carried out by individuals or groups who claimed to act in the name of their faith, but they do not represent the beliefs of all Christians. Many Christians today advocate for peace, love, and understanding."
MS co-pilot
Stryder50
Platinum Member
Says another parasite sucking off the tit of the American People and the National Treasury!
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MAGA lost fairly and squarely in 2020 and won the same in 2024. Get over yourselves. You are not worth it.Sorry Charlie, but: "Russian Collusion",
"Election stolen from S'Hillary",
'Not the will of the "people" ',
etc. ring any bells ????
Or is this another occasion when you lie, distort, dis-inform, misrepresent, and in many other ways show as a piece of human bottom dwelling scum ??? !!!
Stryder50
Platinum Member
Far many more at the hands of Islam, but you fail to consider or mention such.
But then you are an agent of their Dar-al-Islam (War against Humanity/Infidels/Earth).
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He did much more than that, did Tail Gunner Joe.
His own party dismissed the drunk.
PoliticalChic
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I knew what you meant.
TemplarKormac
Political Atheist
Ah, a product of my own uncertainty. Thank you, ma'am.
Stryder50
Platinum Member
Bullshit buddy!
When there were several thousand more votes for Biden in 2020 that in 2024 leaves the subject open to debate at least.
More likely highly suspect of fraud.
But this time around we intend to fix that.
Stryder50
Platinum Member
Vernona Project revealed he was far more accurate than you Left-wing Looney-tunes claim.
BTW, personal occupations/'character' of source is a major common tactic of you Left-wingnuts!
Contumacious
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His party disowned him for making charges, maga-like charges, that were deliberately false.
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Not to anyone who can think. You will fix yourself right into jail if you are not careful. And you guys never are.
Crepitus
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Indeed, I'm responding to one right here! LMAO!!!!!
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