If You Think You Understand what Motivates Iran...

[DGS49]

....you really need to take a few minutes and watch this:



Iran - at least the regime - is not fighting the same "war" that we are fighting. For them, it is a religious war, independent of territory, politics, oil, uranium enrichment, or any of that.

The now-deceased head muthafukka rewrote the ENTIRE national school curriculum shortly after the 1979 revolution, training students at every level to hate all non-Muslims, especially America and Israel. They have been taught (we used to call it, "brainwashed") to believe that the most noble thing one can do is to die fighting the infidels. When we say, "We got the bastards," they say, "God is great!" These are the same people who used young school kids to "clear" mine fields during the Iran-Iraq war, and their grade school textbooks now idolize the kids who died in the process, printing their pictures and life stories.

One hopes that there is a core segment of Persian society that realizes what a load of horseshit this all is, but that indoctrination has been going on now for GENERATIONS.

It is folly to expect such people to negotiate "in good faith." If they can lie, conceal, deceive, or trick an infidel, that is something to be proud of.

As I type this, the Iranians are saying that they will refuse to even sit down with our Reps in Pakistan unless and until the Israelis concede that the "cease fire" prevents them from going after Hezbollah in Lebanon - which will not happen - I think Our Beloved President needs to deem the "deal" breached and proceed to bomb them back into the Stone Age. And "we" need to open the infamous Strait, by force if necessary.

But what do I know?

 

[Churchill]

....you really need to take a few minutes and watch this:



Iran - at least the regime - is not fighting the same "war" that we are fighting. For them, it is a religious war, independent of territory, politics, oil, uranium enrichment, or any of that.

The now-deceased head muthafukka rewrote the ENTIRE national school curriculum shortly after the 1979 revolution, training students at every level to hate all non-Muslims, especially America and Israel. They have been taught (we used to call it, "brainwashed") to believe that the most noble thing one can do is to die fighting the infidels. When we say, "We got the bastards," they say, "God is great!" These are the same people who used young school kids to "clear" mine fields during the Iran-Iraq war, and their grade school textbooks now idolize the kids who died in the process, printing their pictures and life stories.

One hopes that there is a core segment of Persian society that realizes what a load of horseshit this all is, but that indoctrination has been going on now for GENERATIONS.

It is folly to expect such people to negotiate "in good faith." If they can lie, conceal, deceive, or trick an infidel, that is something to be proud of.

As I type this, the Iranians are saying that they will refuse to even sit down with our Reps in Pakistan unless and until the Israelis concede that the "cease fire" prevents them from going after Hezbollah in Lebanon - which will not happen - I think Our Beloved President needs to deem the "deal" breached and proceed to bomb them back into the Stone Age. And "we" need to open the infamous Strait, by force if necessary.

But what do I know?

So, as a true Zionist patriot you'll be volunteering to do your bit to save the civilized world?



The only lying here is lying to yourself, its the only crutch you have.

Now listen to this man:

 

[IM2]

Few events in modern Middle Eastern history have left as deep a scar as the coup of August 1953 that toppled Iranian Prime Minister Mohammad Mosaddegh. In one decisive episode, a democratically elected leader was removed in a covert Anglo-American operation, foreign powers reasserted control over Iranian oil, and the Shah’s autocracy was restored. For many Iranians, the coup became the symbol of Western betrayal, setting the stage for decades of anti-imperialism and fueling the anger that erupted in the 1979 revolution.

The 1953 Coup: Oil, Mosaddegh, and the Roots of Iranian Resentment - Explaining History Podcast

In one decisive episode, a democratically elected leader was removed in a covert Anglo-American operation, foreign powers reasserted control over Iranian oil, and the Shah’s autocracy was restored.

explaininghistory.org

 

[Dogmaphobe]

It only took 1 post for one of these children to show up in this thread.


What a waste of a life that could have ended up human were it not for the indoctrination.

 

[Augustine_]

....you really need to take a few minutes and watch this:



Iran - at least the regime - is not fighting the same "war" that we are fighting. For them, it is a religious war, independent of territory, politics, oil, uranium enrichment, or any of that.

The now-deceased head muthafukka rewrote the ENTIRE national school curriculum shortly after the 1979 revolution, training students at every level to hate all non-Muslims, especially America and Israel. They have been taught (we used to call it, "brainwashed") to believe that the most noble thing one can do is to die fighting the infidels. When we say, "We got the bastards," they say, "God is great!" These are the same people who used young school kids to "clear" mine fields during the Iran-Iraq war, and their grade school textbooks now idolize the kids who died in the process, printing their pictures and life stories.

One hopes that there is a core segment of Persian society that realizes what a load of horseshit this all is, but that indoctrination has been going on now for GENERATIONS.

It is folly to expect such people to negotiate "in good faith." If they can lie, conceal, deceive, or trick an infidel, that is something to be proud of.

As I type this, the Iranians are saying that they will refuse to even sit down with our Reps in Pakistan unless and until the Israelis concede that the "cease fire" prevents them from going after Hezbollah in Lebanon - which will not happen - I think Our Beloved President needs to deem the "deal" breached and proceed to bomb them back into the Stone Age. And "we" need to open the infamous Strait, by force if necessary.

But what do I know?

Religious nutjobs like the Mullah's and our evangelicals know you have to groom them young if you want them to believe the crazy shit in religious books. But just like in the U.S. there are many people in Iran who freed themselves from that cycle and it's sad we have to kill them to appease pedo Trump and Israel.

 

[ElmerMudd]

....you really need to take a few minutes and watch this:



Iran - at least the regime - is not fighting the same "war" that we are fighting. For them, it is a religious war, independent of territory, politics, oil, uranium enrichment, or any of that.

The now-deceased head muthafukka rewrote the ENTIRE national school curriculum shortly after the 1979 revolution, training students at every level to hate all non-Muslims, especially America and Israel. They have been taught (we used to call it, "brainwashed") to believe that the most noble thing one can do is to die fighting the infidels. When we say, "We got the bastards," they say, "God is great!" These are the same people who used young school kids to "clear" mine fields during the Iran-Iraq war, and their grade school textbooks now idolize the kids who died in the process, printing their pictures and life stories.

One hopes that there is a core segment of Persian society that realizes what a load of horseshit this all is, but that indoctrination has been going on now for GENERATIONS.

It is folly to expect such people to negotiate "in good faith." If they can lie, conceal, deceive, or trick an infidel, that is something to be proud of.

As I type this, the Iranians are saying that they will refuse to even sit down with our Reps in Pakistan unless and until the Israelis concede that the "cease fire" prevents them from going after Hezbollah in Lebanon - which will not happen - I think Our Beloved President needs to deem the "deal" breached and proceed to bomb them back into the Stone Age. And "we" need to open the infamous Strait, by force if necessary.

But what do I know?

Trump should have understood the difference in culture and motivation before he developed his strategy on Iran. Trump does not like to do homework.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

So, as a true Zionist patriot you'll be volunteering to do your bit to save the civilized world?



The only lying here is lying to yourself, its the only crutch you have.

Now listen to this man:

It’s a Greater Iran Regime lol

 

[Churchill]

It only took 1 post for one of these children to show up in this thread.


What a waste of a life that could have ended up human were it not for the indoctrination.

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You are in for a major mind adjustment for supporting the filthy system that routinely does this, consider proverbs my friend, you and your disgusting fuhrer who's losing the war:

Pride goeth before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.
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[Cassandro]

Trump should have understood the difference in culture and motivation before he developed his strategy on Iran.

What different strategy should he have developed?

Trump does not like to do homework.

You don't like to think very deeply.

 

[HikerGuy83]

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You are in for a major mind adjustment for supporting the filthy system that routinely does this, consider proverbs my friend, you and your disgusting fuhrer who's losing the war:

Pride goeth before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.
​

What about.......????

 

[Churchill]

What about.......????

People are increasingly expressing disgust at these latter day Nazis, the majority of Americans no longer mindlessly "support" this sickness.

Israel in row with South Korean leader over Palestinian abuse concerns

South Korea's president says it’s disappointing Israel does not 'even once reflect on criticisms from around the world'.

www.aljazeera.com

 

[HikerGuy83]

People are increasingly expressing disgust at these latter day Nazis, the majority of Americans no longer mindlessly "support" this sickness.

Israel in row with South Korean leader over Palestinian abuse concerns

South Korea's president says it’s disappointing Israel does not 'even once reflect on criticisms from around the world'.

www.aljazeera.com

No moron.....

What about.....

Whataboutsim

I.e. Your deflection.

You suck at this.

 

[Churchill]

No moron.....

What about.....

Whataboutsim

I.e. Your deflection.

You suck at this.

Get back to your duties, Benajmin won't tolerate slackness.

 

[ElmerMudd]

What different strategy should he have developed?

You don't like to think very deeply.

What he largely DID NOT plan (or planned weakly):
A clear, unified objective for the war
A realistic endgame or exit strategy
Full interagency coordination (State, evacuations, diplomacy)
Secondary consequences (economic, regional escalation)

What do you define a deep thinker.

I would hope you are a deep enough thinker to have come up with areas Trump was weak on prewar planning. Being a deep thinker you knew the things I summarized. You were testing me.

 

[Mac1958]

The only lying here is lying to yourself, its the only crutch you have.

Hopefully these talks will go well. I suspect Vance has been sent there with strict orders to give up whatever it takes to get this over with.

If Iran walks away with ANYTHING from the talks, they will have won, and the entire world knows it. Except for TrumpWorld™, of course. He and they will claim it to be The Greatest Victory in the History of Historical Histories, and only they will believe it.

 

[HikerGuy83]

I suspect Vance has been sent there with strict orders to give up whatever it takes to get this over with.

So we know that won't happen precisely because you are wrong about 99.99% of the time.

Thanks for jinxing it.

 

[HikerGuy83]

Hopefully these talks will go well. I suspect Vance has been sent there with strict orders to give up whatever it takes to get this over with.

You are almost batting 1000%