How to stop the police from breaking the law, Arizona style.

[frigidweirdo]

Arizona to ban people filming police officers within 8 feet

Opponents of the law have said it violates the constitutional right to free speech and a free press.

www.bbc.com

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A law in the US state of Arizona will ban people from filming police officers at short distances, with possible fines or jail for those who don't comply.

Critics call the law a threat to free speech and the right to a free press.

Police are often filmed by bystanders and footage has occasionally resulted in officer misconduct being exposed."

If it's not filmed, it's not illegal.... WAYYYHEYYYYY!!!

 

[AZrailwhale]

Arizona to ban people filming police officers within 8 feet

Opponents of the law have said it violates the constitutional right to free speech and a free press.

www.bbc.com

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A law in the US state of Arizona will ban people from filming police officers at short distances, with possible fines or jail for those who don't comply.

Critics call the law a threat to free speech and the right to a free press.

Police are often filmed by bystanders and footage has occasionally resulted in officer misconduct being exposed."

If it's not filmed, it's not illegal.... WAYYYHEYYYYY!!!

Did you bother to read the article? The law bans people filming police within EIGHT FEET. People that close are interfering with the police and endangering themselves, the suspect and the officer. Beyond eight feet it’s still legal to film.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Did you bother to read the article? The law bans people filming police within EIGHT FEET. People that close are interfering with the police and endangering themselves, the suspect and the officer. Beyond eight feet it’s still legal to film.

Yep, I read it.
The problem is, right, that if it's illegal to film within 8 feet, all the officer has to do is to get withing that range of the person who is filming, in order to make their filming illegal.

Think about it.

If you want to make a law, make it a law about interfering in police work. Not the filming.

 

[toobfreak]

A law in the US state of Arizona will ban people from filming police officers at short distances, with possible fines or jail for those who don't comply.

Critics call the law a threat to free speech and the right to a free press.

Police are often filmed by bystanders and footage has occasionally resulted in officer misconduct being exposed."

If it's not filmed, it's not illegal.... WAYYYHEYYYYY!!!

Huh? Just stand 9-10 feet away, dope! That's all! Did that one slip by you? They just don't want you in their business where they have to worry about you being some crazy with a knife while they are already dealing with some other loon.

 

[scruffy]

8 feet is perfectly reasonable. It's even very close.

Good on Arizona for codifying a uniform standard.

 

[theHawk]

Arizona to ban people filming police officers within 8 feet

Opponents of the law have said it violates the constitutional right to free speech and a free press.

www.bbc.com

"
A law in the US state of Arizona will ban people from filming police officers at short distances, with possible fines or jail for those who don't comply.

Critics call the law a threat to free speech and the right to a free press.

Police are often filmed by bystanders and footage has occasionally resulted in officer misconduct being exposed."

If it's not filmed, it's not illegal.... WAYYYHEYYYYY!!!

Clearly frigid weirdo likes it when hoodlums surround cops in action. Makes it easier for one of them to pull a weapon and take the officer out.
Weirdo hates cops.

 

[westwall]

Arizona to ban people filming police officers within 8 feet

Opponents of the law have said it violates the constitutional right to free speech and a free press.

www.bbc.com

"
A law in the US state of Arizona will ban people from filming police officers at short distances, with possible fines or jail for those who don't comply.

Critics call the law a threat to free speech and the right to a free press.

Police are often filmed by bystanders and footage has occasionally resulted in officer misconduct being exposed."

If it's not filmed, it's not illegal.... WAYYYHEYYYYY!!!

9 feet is just fine. I get tired of seeing the auditors acting like assholes. Some are damned good, never lose their cool, and expose some very dirty cops.

But others are just plain old assholes.

 

[fncceo]

A law in the US state of Arizona will ban people from filming police officers at short distances, with possible fines or jail for those who don't comply.

You can already be arrested for interfering with any emergency service worker, police, fire fighters, paramedics .. etc. Being so close that your inhibit the ability of workers to do their job or cause them to be concerned for your safety is considered interfering.

You can also be asked to stop filming if there is a minor involved and there are concerns for their privacy. Failure to comply with a lawful order can get you arrested.

 

[pknopp]

It does nothing. It's window dressing. it's a "Hey, look what we did" when in fact they did nothing.

Look at all the films that have caught the police in action. Have some been within 8 feet? Maybe, but it would have still been the same at 8 feet with technology today. It also excludes anyone involved so if it is you being addressed and it's one foot, you can film.

A bill to sucker the electorate. Even then, I'll argue it might not hold up in court.

 

[pknopp]

You can already be arrested for interfering with any emergency service worker, police, fire fighters, paramedics .. etc. Being so close that your inhibit the ability of workers to do their job or cause them to be concerned for your safety is considered interfering.

You can also be asked to stop filming if there is a minor involved and there are concerns for their privacy. Failure to comply with a lawful order can get you arrested.

There is a cop in trouble now for assaulting a 14 year old. He was off duty but as they say, never off duty. It was filmed. Yes, people can film this.

 

[fncceo]

There is a cop in trouble now for assaulting a 14 year old. He was off duty but as they say, never off duty. It was filmed. Yes, people can film this.

It depends... for example. A minor self harming, a minor in a traffic accident, a minor threatening suicide. Some people like to film this stuff and post it online.

There are privacy concerns for this type of filming.

 

[protectionist]

Yep, I read it.
The problem is, right, that if it's illegal to film within 8 feet, all the officer has to do is to get withing that range of the person who is filming, in order to make their filming illegal.

Think about it.

If you want to make a law, make it a law about interfering in police work. Not the filming.

If the officer moved toward the filmer, that would be shown on the video, so not too likely that cops would be doing that.

 

[woodwork201]

Did you bother to read the article? The law bans people filming police within EIGHT FEET. People that close are interfering with the police and endangering themselves, the suspect and the officer. Beyond eight feet it’s still legal to film.

How many times have you seen people threatened, intimidated, even arrested, for legally filming police for much further than 8 feet? Just how do you think this law is going to work when the police are going to determine what 8 feet is? Suddenly, streets are only 8 feet wide. Suddenly the vision range of a cop is only 8 feet.

This will be abused.

 

[pknopp]

How many times have you seen people threatened, intimidated, even arrested, for legally filming police for much further than 8 feet? Just how do you think this law is going to work when the police are going to determine what 8 feet is? Suddenly, streets are only 8 feet wide. Suddenly the vision range of a cop is only 8 feet.

This will be abused.

And the police will lose. The courts have consistently ruled that people can film.

 

[protectionist]

And the police will lose. The courts have consistently ruled that people can film.

The courts follow the law, and they are not cop-haters. If the law becomes 8 feet, the courts will follow that.

 

[pknopp]

The courts follow the law, and they are not cop-haters. If the law becomes 8 feet, the courts will follow that.

EFF amicus brief Martin v Rollins (1st Cir)

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

You can also be asked to stop filming if there is a minor involved and there are concerns for their privacy. Failure to comply with a lawful order can get you arrested.

In what state?

 

[fncceo]

In what state?

California, Connecticut, Florida, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, and Washington

 

[protectionist]

EFF amicus brief Martin v Rollins (1st Cir)

If you have something to say, SAY IT.

 

[pknopp]

If you have something to say, SAY IT.

It's a case where the courts did not sign with the law.