You may or may not be right but as I see it, what we have now isn't working and I doubt any simple solution will change that dramatically.
How to reduce violent crime, if that is the actual goal, and it doesn't involve banning guns for normal people.
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AZrailwhale
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Most guns already do, it's caller a serial number and it's stamped on the frame.
Most? What is it used for?
AZrailwhale
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Older guns don’t have serial numbers
Ahhh. So what are the numbers used for?
AZrailwhale
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Now they are used to track guns.
Tracked by who? Is there a national or international database?
AZrailwhale
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There is no data base, but given the serial number, the manufacturer can identify which gun store it was sold to.
Great. Can the gun store identify who they sold it to?
My solution to the crime problem is to get rid of all the prisons. Because they don't work: hello, what's going on now is proof they don't work to stop or even slow down crime, ever increasing.
Nearly all crimes are perfectly open and shut: the guy is holding a smoking gun and drinking out of the stolen liquor bottle. He's to be tried that night or within a week, sentenced to execution for murder, and executed within a week. Boy, that would revivify the police, knowing that catching bad guys would finally do some good!
Murders are obvious, but I'd say crimes of $1k worth. If the worth isn't so much it would go on the guy's record and be cumulative: it would add up to $1K the next time, probably. Same deal, one week to trial, one week to execution when found guilty.
A few prisons could be left in place for puzzling cases, but not many would be needed. Cleaning out the repeat criminals would create a peaceful society within half a year.
Nearly all crimes are perfectly open and shut: the guy is holding a smoking gun and drinking out of the stolen liquor bottle. He's to be tried that night or within a week, sentenced to execution for murder, and executed within a week. Boy, that would revivify the police, knowing that catching bad guys would finally do some good!
Murders are obvious, but I'd say crimes of $1k worth. If the worth isn't so much it would go on the guy's record and be cumulative: it would add up to $1K the next time, probably. Same deal, one week to trial, one week to execution when found guilty.
A few prisons could be left in place for puzzling cases, but not many would be needed. Cleaning out the repeat criminals would create a peaceful society within half a year.
AZrailwhale
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The gun stores are required to keep paper records of all sales, so yes. How do you think the Feds catch straw purchasers? One of the issues with Obama's sales to the Cartels was the gun store owners were instructed NOT to keep the proper records and to sell to obvious straw purchasers and many refused. I believe that's how the gun used to kill the Border Patrolman was traced.
M14 Shooter
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Yes.
In the same way poll workers can identify who shows up to vote
An ID is required to buy a gun.
What is an 'illegal gun'? A gun sold illegally, purchased illegally, possessed illegally, or used illegally?
Good. Are there records kept if the initial purchaser sells that gun?
I don't know the particulars but it was certainly a botched operation, however well intentioned.
Great. Are there similar restrictions on the reselling of that gun?
M14 Shooter
The Light of Truth
Not in most states.
Both seem like a case of locking the barn door after the horse has left.
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