RandallFlagg
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I see that you are not a student of history. Muhammad's command to kill all infidels (those that do not practice Islam and it's rules of life) came into being before June 8, 0632, the day Muhammad died. That was over 1380 YEARS AGO. One Thousand Three Hundred Eighty YEARS AGO.Back and forth go the extremes. Let's start by asking the extremist muslims to line out what it is they're after, in details..
So, let's, for example, say the terrorists sat down with your dumb ass, and they agreed to NOT kill you if you convert (IF you are a Christian). Would you deny Christ and convert? Because, that's what they want, for the thirty- thousandth time. That's ALL they want.
Tiny Hands would tell you that the art of the deal is to start out asking for way more than you're willing to settle for in the end. That way, when the other side "shaves you down" and meets you in the middle, you actually got what you were after in the first place. Short book really "The Art of the Deal". Could've written it all in one page.
Anyway, yes, Islamic extremists would ask all of us to convert and denounce. That of course wouldn't be up for bargaining away. But other things could be. Like our pumping smut through the airwaves all over the world, or just our depraved laws being revised. We could withdraw from encroachment on ME oil and sovereign lands.
You could still be a Christian as you withdrew depraved legislation and created new FCC rules for depravity broadcasts, and while you were withdrawing Blackwater's toehold in the ME. That would be "the art of the deal". But we can't start haggling with them if we don't invite them to the table.
Besides, if you read my posts you'll notice that part of the invitation to the table includes their briefing themselves on their specific demands. My requirement would be they read the Koran from cover to cover twice before they came to the table. In the end it would become clear to all men that no matter who their messiah is, be it Jesus or Muhammad or Buddha etc., these messiahs are but messengers all of the same Message.
Jesus reminded us not to worship him, but "My Father in Heaven" instead. Muhammad was so adamant about this identical message that he forbade even the depiction of his earthly form so as to not distract from what was actually important. Both men were admitting they were just men, albeit very enlightened ones and clearer conduits for "God" "Allah" which are the same thing. In fact wasn't Jesus' message supposed to be that even if you're a man like him, you can rise above that and become godly (with a small "g")? I'm pretty sure that was Jesus' one-page "Art of the Deal" if you had to condense the Bible down to just one page.
I'm not sure what Muhammad said about people hanging on his every word as if he himself was Allah. But given that he insisted people not depict him in the flesh, one has to wonder if that wasn't the same as him saying "look, there may be some things I represent that aren't 100% godly, so look to Allah instead. I'm an empty shell, a messenger, a flawed being like all of you who is telling you there's another way". Like I said, I don't know. I haven't studied the Koran enough to know if Muhammad fancied himself an infallible god or a flawed being like the rest of us?
Well, it's Easter so there's my Easter sermon...lol..
Revelation 19:10
At this I fell at his feet to worship him. But he said to me, “Don’t do that! I am a fellow servant with you and with your brothers and sisters who hold to the testimony of Jesus. Worship God! For it is the Spirit of prophecy who bears testimony to Jesus.”
If I had to create a unifying world religion or at least one that bound Islam to Christianity, I would substitute the word "Jesus" with the word "your divine prophet" or "your messiah". See how they're the same message? I think, this is why Muhammad insisted on not being depicted in the flesh. Revelation 19:10 could just as easily be a statement from Muhammad. The Law of Prophets (any of them, take your pick, because there have been many) is "Never substitute yourself or your words between God/Allah and the men and women you're addressing".
In fact I believe that, if memory serves, Muhammad came along later to correct the issue of people worshiping Jesus "as God" (capital G). Then in utter irony, the Islamic extremists have worshiped Muhammad instead of Allah by hanging on the words (just some, the ones that suit their current agenda but not all) of the messenger instead of their deeper meaning. It is nearly one and the same as the Islamic extremists drawing pictures of their human interpretation of what their Prophet looked like. I'm pretty sure one of the commandments filtered through Muhammad was not "pick and choose what you want to hear from my message and ignore the rest as you like".
But then again they've justified jihad because of the extremes in pre-existence in the West. So this is why we need to get them to the negotiating table. We all need to stop, take stock of where we have gone wrong, and make adjustments...which will require sacrifices on both sides of the table.
I personally think that they could give up their addiction to power via terrorizing and bombing if we gave up our addiction to controlling their oil and influencing their children to depravity. That would be one great deal for everyone I'd think. Nobody has to renounce Allah. Nobody has to renounce Christianity because really they're one and the same thing. Seems the devil has gotten into both sublime messages. Figures. That asshole is always getting up to that.. He is always pitting men's weaknesses and addictions against each other by turning weakness into "a new religion" and then declaring "Jihad!" on other new religions based on weaknesses. This is why at the negotiating table we could discuss our common strengths which at their base is a basic morality and regard for a Sublime message greater than our fleshy addictions.
The "West" as we know it today did not exist. The Crusades (there have been 9 of them) occurred between 1096 and 1272...still, there was no "West" as we know it. All of the Crusades were in response to MUSLIM persecution and killing of Christians for no reason other than Muhammad having told them in the Quran that it was the right thing to do.
The problem continues today, STILL BASED upon Muhammad's idiotic dogma.
I think that by way of modern communications and worldwide knowledge of lifestyles in other countries, millions of Muslims have "seen the light" and now disregard the evil command to kill others in the name of religion. It is the radical Muslims that hold onto every word of the Quran (just as some Christians use Old Testament text to justify hatred instead of the love that Jesus taught in the New Testament)
What the Quran needs is a "New Testament". Just strike out all of the commands to kill others (there are many) and you've got a good start. Take out the parts where the men own the women and you've got another improvement. Do away with Sharia Law and you might be getting close to a peaceful Muslim religion.
I'm going to paraphrase here (because I'm not near a Bible at the moment) but, before Jesus ascended into heaven he said, I go now to the Father. There will be no more prophets until I make my return to earth.
Muhammad came along AFTER Jesus. So, to Christians, Muhammed is a heretic, just as any other "religion" that claims a "modern day" prophet.