How the Trump Administration Rushed to Judgment in Minneapolis Shooting - The Trump Administration Is Lying to Our Faces. Congress Must Act.

[HikerGuy83]

Thank you for your opinion , however it is meaningless to me. Coming from
You it's a compliment actually. You seldom tell the truth.

And thank you for proving my point.

 

[Stann]

And thank you for proving my point.

It is childish to.keep.going round and round like this child. I know you will respond again but I will try not to respond. I prefer productive conversations not adversarial.bitching. it's not healthy or productive.

 

[HikerGuy83]

I prefer productive conversations

You have not contributed anything of value to any conversation of which I have been a part.

So your claim is utter

You provide nothing but an "opinion" and you do nothing to bolster the opinion in terms of cogent reasoning or facts.

You simply claim that facts exist (to back your point) but you never produce them.

Your idea of a productive conversation is one where one of your left-wing buddies gives you the equivalent of an electronic hand-job.

Enjoy your ignorant left-wing evening.

 

[HikerGuy83]

Yes, like he did and he got what he deserved.

Deserved or not, it happened.

You can't put gasoline in a jar and wave a match over the top of it thinking there is no way it will light off. That would be stupid.

This guy mixed the right ingredients and wound up dead.

He may have even been technically in the right.

It doesn't matter. He is no less dead.

That doesn't seem to matter to the morons on the left.

If it can be shown he was killed illegally or by accident, then it's O.K.

But he still isn't coming back.

FAFO

 

[HikerGuy83]

You seldom tell the truth.

You've made that claim about 20 times, but when asked to produce an example you've only produced ZERO/NOTHING.

This time will be no different.

 

[HikerGuy83]

I don't know why the Nebraska cops would make that terribly flawed judgment. It's highly ill-advised.

In a farming/cattle type area, you can imagine what the labor pool looks like.

 

[HikerGuy83]

The second one is based on irrefutable facts.

 

[HikerGuy83]

And who is arresting those who kept the local police from getting involved?

Exclusive | Minnesota cops beg Walz, pols to let them work with ICE, say they could have prevented shootings

St. Paul Police Federation President Mark Ross blamed state and local officials for the anti-ICE protest violence — saying that if highly trained cops were allowed to work with the feds, it likely …

nypost.com

MINNEAPOLIS — The head of a major Twin Cities police union slammed local officials for blocking cooperation between local cops and ICE and Border Patrol agents – saying if they had been involved, “there would be no loss of life.”

It comes as Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz agreed to have his top cop work with President Trump’s border czar Tom Homan after he rushed to Minneapolis Monday — after Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem was sidelined.

St. Paul Police Federation President Mark Ross blamed state and local officials for the anti-ICE protest violence — saying that if highly trained cops were allowed to work with the feds, it likely would have prevented the killing of Renee Good and Alex Pretti.

 

[theHawk]

You are a fool. Of course they were there to attack and overtake the police .trump told them.they had to fight to take back their country again before it was lost forever and they believed the liar.

Nope. They were there to protest a rigged election, and to demand Congress send it back to states as per the constitution when there is election fraud.

 

[Stann]

Nope. They were there to protest a rigged election, and to demand Congress send it back to states as per the constitution when there is election fraud.

You know better , that's not what he encouraged and that's not what went down.

 

[WorldWatcher]

He never touched his gun. ....

Bullshit it went off, ....

You've seen the ballistics report of the Pretti's firearm being discharged?

You've seen the forensic report comparing the recovered shell casing from Pretti's gun examining gun markings and showing the ammo type and manufacturer are consistent with the next round in the magazine?

You've seen the crime scene photo showing the damage/divit in the asphault consisten when the location and where Pretti's firearm was being pointed (down and to the right of the officer in the gray coat that had exited the scrum)?

Officer Gray Coat's own reaction is not consistent with the discharge of a weapon he was holding in his own right hand at the time the audio of the first shot is heard in the video.

WW

 

[Godboy]

The hatred you spew told me as much. Unusual however , most atheists I've met are very reasonable people , not all wrapped up in hatred. You give them a bad name too.

Shut up ******. No one wants to hear any lectures from a dipshit like YOU.

 

[Godboy]

Actually according to the MAGA's, everybody who physically attacked any of the over 140 injured capitol police officers should have been shot, instead of arrested.

If they had been shooting everyone at the BLM and ANTIFA riots, i would agree. Those people mostly werent even charged, and those who were had their bail paid for them and the charges were later dropped. We cant have one rule for conservatives and another for democrats.

 

[Stann]

You've seen the ballistics report of the Pretti's firearm being discharged?

You've seen the forensic report comparing the recovered shell casing from Pretti's gun examining gun markings and showing the ammo type and manufacturer are consistent with the next round in the magazine?

You've seen the crime scene photo showing the damage/divit in the asphault consisten when the location and where Pretti's firearm was being pointed (down and to the right of the officer in the gray coat that had exited the scrum)?

Officer Gray Coat's own reaction is not consistent with the discharge of a weapon he was holding in his own right hand at the time the audio of the first shot is heard in the video.

WW

I don't know what you're talking about. I watched the video again..Pretti never reached for his gun.it was taken away from.him.before he was shot. Three men had him wrestled to the ground. He was helpless and disarmed when they executed him. That's what I saw ,the video reaffirmed that again..Not going to change my mind.

 

[WorldWatcher]

Unable to.post links but if you really want to know the truth put the questioning.ypur search button.appropriatecresponses will be there to address any questions you might want to ask. Also there are several cities and states that have legislation forbidding local police to assist ICE in their operations. Rightly so , as it erodes public confidence among the local population.

Stann, you are incorrect on this one.

I did as you asked.

Here are the results. There aren't even 18,000 police unions in the country. Agencies? Yes. Unions? No.

WW

 

[Stann]

Stann, you are incorrect on this one.

I did as you asked.

Here are the results. There aren't even 18,000 police unions in the country. Agencies? Yes. Unions? No.

WW

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Agencies then , I don't know what their groups are called. Fact remains local police lose public support if they get involved in aiding ICE. It's a no brainier to not assist but not impede either. The locals must come first and primary.concern.

 

[WorldWatcher]

I don't know what you're talking about. I watched the video again..Pretti never reached for his gun.it was taken away from.him.before he was shot. Three men had him wrestled to the ground. He was helpless and disarmed when they executed him. That's what I saw ,the video reaffirmed that again..Not going to change my mind.

#1 Check the post again. You made a statement, another poster responded and I quoted BOTH, then proceeded to ask how HE knew that Pretti's weapon was fired.

#2 I said nothing about Pretti reaching for his weapon, but he never did. All videos from multiple angled show this.

#3 I agree he was unarmed when the officer in the blank mask shot him in the back after watching the officer in the gray coat remove Pretti's firearm and exit the scrum.

Not trying to "change your mind", but your reaction above is not consistent with what I posted.

WW

 

[Stann]

#1 Check the post again. You made a statement, another poster responded and I quoted BOTH, then proceeded to ask how HE knew that Pretti's weapon was fired.

#2 I said nothing about Pretti reaching for his weapon, but he never did. All videos from multiple angled show this.

#3 I agree he was unarmed when the officer in the blank mask shot him in the back after watching the officer in the gray coat remove Pretti's firearm and exit the scrum.

Not trying to "change your mind", but your reaction above is not consistent with what I posted.

WW

I believe you are saying they executed him. That's correct , they did. In the most cowardly fashion too !

 

[WorldWatcher]

Agencies then , I don't know what their groups are called. Fact remains local police lose public support if they get involved in aiding ICE. It's a no brainier to not assist but not impede either. The locals must come first and primary.concern.

: SHRUG :

I can respect that opinion. I haven't researched it either way. You may be correct or incorrect, I don't know.

Personnally, thiniking about it, I could see it swinging either way with there being A LOT of variables involved.

If it's local PD working with ICE to actually go after violent criminals, drugs, street gangs, murderers, etc. I can see a local ethnic community supporing that.

If it's local PD working with ICE to arrest non-criminals, those at immigration hearings trying to do the right thing, minor children at schools just to get to the parents, a grandmother in her garden that has been here 50 years, a college student brought here as a child on her way home to spend Thanksgiving with her parents, etc. That those types of actions will foster distrust in ethnic communities.
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It is complex and there are a lot of variables as to the specifics that are often lost in the bickering.

WW

 

[Stann]

: SHRUG :

I can respect that opinion. I haven't researched it either way. You may be correct or incorrect, I don't know.

Personnally, thiniking about it, I could see it swinging either way with there being A LOT of variables involved.

If it's local PD working with ICE to actually go after violent criminals, drugs, street gangs, murderers, etc. I can see a local ethnic community supporing that.

If it's local PD working with ICE to arrest non-criminals, those at immigration hearings trying to do the right thing, minor children at schools just to get to the parents, a grandmother in her garden that has been here 50 years, a college student brought here as a child on her way home to spend Thanksgiving with her parents, etc. That those types of actions will foster distrust in ethnic communities.
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It is complex and there are a lot of variables as to the specifics that are often lost in the bickering.

WW

It is an opinion moat psychologists agree with. Hopefully most local police won't be compromised by trumps' actions too and stay out of this disaster. As I tried to explain to another poster the feud between the St
Paul.police department and the Minneapolis Police department has been going on.since the 1800's. So.opinioms are even worse up.there. Minneapolis was doing the right thing. Now things will get even worse if they assist ICE. More people , more guns , differing platforms not a good combination. Plus feeling pressured to.make a wrong choice.