How the Democrats rigged the 2020 election

So you ignored the obvious?

Why?

People ignore the obvious when they aren't REALLY looking for the sort of discussion they claim to be looking for, while having ulterior partisan motives, instead.

Acknowledge the obvious and one's entire house of cards comes tumbling down.
 
Fearing that President Donald Trump would win re-election in 2020, the Democrats approached and worked with the Chinese government to release a deadly virus that would disrupt the 2020 American election process and provide an excuse for the Democrats to revise/ease voting requirements
Thats you premise?

That repubs believe the china virus was the product of collusion between dems and chicoms?

Is that what you are you are trying to pawn off as a serious discussion?

Dont make me laugh
 
This is a serious thread, opened (and hopefully kept) in the Clean Debate Zone so that we can have some serious and thoughtful clarity on this whole controversy.

Obviously this is a complicated topic, but what I'm after here is focus, clarity, and conciseness. Your shortest, clearest, most succinct responses.

From what I'm reading, seeing and hearing, this is what Trump supporters believe happened before, during and after the 2020 elections, in three parts:

1. Fearing that President Donald Trump would win re-election in 2020, the Democrats approached and worked with the Chinese government to release a deadly virus that would disrupt the 2020 American election process and provide an excuse for the Democrats to revise/ease voting requirements. These looser requirements would provide the cover they needed to (among other things) insert doctored ballots (some of which may have been doctored by the Chinese themselves), hide/destroy ballots, and count legal ballots multiple times. Dr Anthony Fauci, a key member of the government's health system, was recruited to spread false and misleading information to the public and advance this effort.

2. A large number of individuals and organizations successfully pulled off the fraud, either working in concert or alone. Providing cover and aid in this endeavor were China, the American major media, American local media, the Democratic Party, SmartMatic and Dominion Software.

3. Once the fraud was detected, the following individuals and groups purposely and actively participated in its coverup in some way, either through dishonesty or the refusal to examine the clear and voluminous evidence of fraud that was provided: The US Supreme Court, Trump-appointed judges, GOP state election officials, GOP governors, GOP state legislatures, the FBI, the CIA, Trump's Justice Department, Trump's Attorney General, Vice President Mike Pence, the Democratic Party, the American major media and Republican congresspeople. To date, these individuals and groups have been successful in holding off the exposure of the evidence.

As I understand, that is the issue, in a nutshell, as succinct as I can make it.

Is this fair and accurate? Please comment and make your best effort to keep this focused, clear and concise.

Okay, I did forget Biden, but let's just include him in the Democratic Party.

Is my characterization fair and relatively accurate?

So you ignored the obvious?

Why?

I didn't ignore anything. Biden is a Democrat. I think we can agree on that. I included the Democrats.

So, again: Is my characterization fair and relatively accurate?

No. Your OP is simply a stupidly ridiculous strawman argument.

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Fearing that President Donald Trump would win re-election in 2020, the Democrats approached and worked with the Chinese government to release a deadly virus that would disrupt the 2020 American election process and provide an excuse for the Democrats to revise/ease voting requirements
Thats you premise?

That repubs believe the china virus was the product of collusion between dems and chicoms?

Is that what you are you are trying to pawn off as a serious discussion?

Dont make me laugh
No, that's not my premise. That is what I have seen. And it is why I have repeatedly asked for input on this thread.

One example of that theory would be from CrusaderFrank , who says my characterization is fair.

Maybe take that up with him.
 
The whole illegal issues are election laws changed at the last minute in all of the Fraud states. This was a calculated and deliberate fraud. Election laws can only be changed through full legislation through the legislature.

This was the origins for the fraud to let happen.
Except making it easier for people to vote during a pandemic isn't fraud.

It's actually kind of a good idea.

the reality- even with record turnout in 2020 (because people realized that their actual lives might depend on who gets the job), 33% of eligible voters STILL didn't bother to show up. Why should they? if they weren't lucky enough to live in one of the five swing states, their votes weren't going to make a difference.
Going against state constitutional voting laws at the last minute is illegal and fraud. You can't send millions of unsolicited ballots.

If the Maricopa audit is legit, I have no problem then. Done...finished....Kapoot.

If not, 75 million people were disenfranchised like no no race has ever been. 75 million people

You believed Democrat medical operative Fauci. Aren't you embarrassed to shut this country down just to rid of us Trump??..My God look what you did?

And I bet 50% of all poll workers are DNC operative spies. See those people move suitcases like professional airplane bag handlers? Talented

Again, I consider every Dem win since 60 as blatant election fraud. I consider every Repub win a lucky break, didn't run enough votes through 20 times

Maricopa County hasn't had a Dem win since Truman...lol

BillyBob won it, but he was just lucky being handed Reagans economy.

I apologize everyone for typing so much.
 
This is a serious thread, opened (and hopefully kept) in the Clean Debate Zone so that we can have some serious and thoughtful clarity on this whole controversy.

Obviously this is a complicated topic, but what I'm after here is focus, clarity, and conciseness. Your shortest, clearest, most succinct responses.

LOL

From what I'm reading, seeing and hearing, this is what Trump supporters believe happened before, during and after the 2020 elections, in three parts:

1. Fearing that President Donald Trump would win re-election in 2020, the Democrats approached and worked with the Chinese government to release a deadly virus that would disrupt the 2020 American election process and provide an excuse for the Democrats to revise/ease voting requirements. These looser requirements would provide the cover they needed to (among other things) insert doctored ballots (some of which may have been doctored by the Chinese themselves), hide/destroy ballots, and count legal ballots multiple times. Dr Anthony Fauci, a key member of the government's health system, was recruited to spread false and misleading information to the public and advance this effort.

2. A large number of. individuals and organizations successfully pulled off the fraud, either working in concert or alone. Providing cover and aid in this endeavor were China, the American major media, American local media, the Democratic Party, SmartMatic and Dominion Software.

3. Once the fraud was detected, the following individuals and groups purposely and actively participated in its coverup in some way, either through dishonesty or the refusal to examine the clear and voluminous evidence of fraud that was provided: The US Supreme Court, Trump-appointed judges, GOP state election officials, GOP governors, GOP state legislatures, the FBI, the CIA, Trump's Justice Department, Trump's Attorney General, Vice President Mike Pence, the Democratic Party, the American major media and Republican congresspeople. To date, these individuals and groups have been successful in holding off the exposure of the evidence.

As I understand it, that is the issue, in a nutshell, as succinct as I can make it.

Is this fair and accurate? Please comment and make your best effort to keep this focused, clear and concise.

Uh huh. I've stopped wasting time trying to parse their fantasies. Here's what I saw happen.

China released the pandemic on the world. (They've yet to be held accountable for this, but that's another thread.) Trump's initial response made sense. He clearly took the threat seriously and imposed travel restrictions. At first, the press criticized him for it - suggesting it was motivated by racism(!).

But, as reports of the outbreak persisted, the media shifted into their usual feeding frenzy. Selling fear is what they do, so they couldn't help themselves. Trump, who built a career on (nominally) opposing mainstream media, instinctively and reflexively, rejected their alarm. He dismissed the nightmare scenarios that the press was circle-jerking to, and made a point of contradicting them publicly.

It seemed like safe bet. Nine times out of ten, when the press is predicting calamity, it's a "nothing burger". But this bet he lost. His dismissive attitude, and the subsequent neglect, opened the door for Democrats. Not only did it peel away support from Trump - as people previously on the fence saw him failing to do anything about the pandemic - it also brought on substantial changes to voting laws that Democrats steered to favor their candidates when and where they could.

Trump supporters saw these changes happening, and tried to stop them where they could. But they were behind the curve and failed in most instances. And Democrats succeeded in portraying their efforts as "anti-democratic". As consensus grew that Trump was going to lose the election, he preemptively laid out the "stolen election" excuse.
 
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This is a serious thread, opened (and hopefully kept) in the Clean Debate Zone so that we can have some serious and thoughtful clarity on this whole controversy.

Obviously this is a complicated topic, but what I'm after here is focus, clarity, and conciseness. Your shortest, clearest, most succinct responses.

From what I'm reading, seeing and hearing, this is what Trump supporters believe happened before, during and after the 2020 elections, in three parts:

1. Fearing that President Donald Trump would win re-election in 2020, the Democrats approached and worked with the Chinese government to release a deadly virus that would disrupt the 2020 American election process and provide an excuse for the Democrats to revise/ease voting requirements. These looser requirements would provide the cover they needed to (among other things) insert doctored ballots (some of which may have been doctored by the Chinese themselves), hide/destroy ballots, and count legal ballots multiple times. Dr Anthony Fauci, a key member of the government's health system, was recruited to spread false and misleading information to the public and advance this effort.

2. A large number of individuals and organizations successfully pulled off the fraud, either working in concert or alone. Providing cover and aid in this endeavor were China, the American major media, American local media, the Democratic Party, SmartMatic and Dominion Software.

3. Once the fraud was detected, the following individuals and groups purposely and actively participated in its coverup in some way, either through dishonesty or the refusal to examine the clear and voluminous evidence of fraud that was provided: The US Supreme Court, Trump-appointed judges, GOP state election officials, GOP governors, GOP state legislatures, the FBI, the CIA, Trump's Justice Department, Trump's Attorney General, Vice President Mike Pence, the Democratic Party, the American major media and Republican congresspeople. To date, these individuals and groups have been successful in holding off the exposure of the evidence.

As I understand, that is the issue, in a nutshell, as succinct as I can make it.

Is this fair and accurate? Please comment and make your best effort to keep this focused, clear and concise.

Okay, I did forget Biden, but let's just include him in the Democratic Party.

Is my characterization fair and relatively accurate?

Your characterization is sarcastic and is also exactly what the uneducated and uninformed trumpeciles truly believe.

I tried to make it as straightforward and accurate as possible, based on my perceptions of what I've heard, seen and read.

I suspect that most of what you've "heard, seen and read" regarding the subject is from fake news sources that cater to TDS afflicted morons such as yourself. You drink a lot of the commie extreme leftist Jonesian grape flavored beverage. AKA crude, defamatory anti-USA disinformation.
 
The establishment of both parties couldn't let Trump stay in power because he was preventing them from their robbery as usual method of governance. They couldn't stand the fact that an unlimited amount of money was there for the taking and Trump was forcing them to be honest. Stealing the election was their only salvation. In addition to the easy money, there were also large numbers of DOJ people who stood a good chance of ending up in jail if Trump was reelected. The stolen election was a big part of the DOJ criminal coverup.
Then they programmed Democrat Medical Operative Fauci to cause this country massive damage by lying about everything.

He knew Trump closing off China was the right thing to do. He just wanted more deaths Operative Fauci with free flow.

 
I tried to make it as strag
This is a serious thread, opened (and hopefully kept) in the Clean Debate Zone so that we can have some serious and thoughtful clarity on this whole controversy.

Obviously this is a complicated topic, but what I'm after here is focus, clarity, and conciseness. Your shortest, clearest, most succinct responses.

From what I'm reading, seeing and hearing, this is what Trump supporters believe happened before, during and after the 2020 elections, in three parts:

1. Fearing that President Donald Trump would win re-election in 2020, the Democrats approached and worked with the Chinese government to release a deadly virus that would disrupt the 2020 American election process and provide an excuse for the Democrats to revise/ease voting requirements. These looser requirements would provide the cover they needed to (among other things) insert doctored ballots (some of which may have been doctored by the Chinese themselves), hide/destroy ballots, and count legal ballots multiple times. Dr Anthony Fauci, a key member of the government's health system, was recruited to spread false and misleading information to the public and advance this effort.

2. A large number of individuals and organizations successfully pulled off the fraud, either working in concert or alone. Providing cover and aid in this endeavor were China, the American major media, American local media, the Democratic Party, SmartMatic and Dominion Software.

3. Once the fraud was detected, the following individuals and groups purposely and actively participated in its coverup in some way, either through dishonesty or the refusal to examine the clear and voluminous evidence of fraud that was provided: The US Supreme Court, Trump-appointed judges, GOP state election officials, GOP governors, GOP state legislatures, the FBI, the CIA, Trump's Justice Department, Trump's Attorney General, Vice President Mike Pence, the Democratic Party, the American major media and Republican congresspeople. To date, these individuals and groups have been successful in holding off the exposure of the evidence.

As I understand, that is the issue, in a nutshell, as succinct as I can make it.

Is this fair and accurate? Please comment and make your best effort to keep this focused, clear and concise.

Okay, I did forget Biden, but let's just include him in the Democratic Party.

Is my characterization fair and relatively accurate?

Your characterization is sarcastic and is also exactly what the uneducated and uninformed trumpeciles truly believe.

I tried to make it as straightforward and accurate as possible, based on my perceptions of what I've heard, seen and read.

I suspect that most of what you've "heard, seen and read" regarding the subject is from fake news sources that cater to TDS afflicted morons such as yourself. You drink a lot of the commie extreme leftist Jonesian grape flavored beverage. AKA crude, defamatory anti-USA disinformation.

Or, I just pay attention to what you guys say, and ask a lot of questions. Like on this very thread. Whichever you prefer is fine.
 
I tried to make it as strag
This is a serious thread, opened (and hopefully kept) in the Clean Debate Zone so that we can have some serious and thoughtful clarity on this whole controversy.

Obviously this is a complicated topic, but what I'm after here is focus, clarity, and conciseness. Your shortest, clearest, most succinct responses.

From what I'm reading, seeing and hearing, this is what Trump supporters believe happened before, during and after the 2020 elections, in three parts:

1. Fearing that President Donald Trump would win re-election in 2020, the Democrats approached and worked with the Chinese government to release a deadly virus that would disrupt the 2020 American election process and provide an excuse for the Democrats to revise/ease voting requirements. These looser requirements would provide the cover they needed to (among other things) insert doctored ballots (some of which may have been doctored by the Chinese themselves), hide/destroy ballots, and count legal ballots multiple times. Dr Anthony Fauci, a key member of the government's health system, was recruited to spread false and misleading information to the public and advance this effort.

2. A large number of individuals and organizations successfully pulled off the fraud, either working in concert or alone. Providing cover and aid in this endeavor were China, the American major media, American local media, the Democratic Party, SmartMatic and Dominion Software.

3. Once the fraud was detected, the following individuals and groups purposely and actively participated in its coverup in some way, either through dishonesty or the refusal to examine the clear and voluminous evidence of fraud that was provided: The US Supreme Court, Trump-appointed judges, GOP state election officials, GOP governors, GOP state legislatures, the FBI, the CIA, Trump's Justice Department, Trump's Attorney General, Vice President Mike Pence, the Democratic Party, the American major media and Republican congresspeople. To date, these individuals and groups have been successful in holding off the exposure of the evidence.

As I understand, that is the issue, in a nutshell, as succinct as I can make it.

Is this fair and accurate? Please comment and make your best effort to keep this focused, clear and concise.

Okay, I did forget Biden, but let's just include him in the Democratic Party.

Is my characterization fair and relatively accurate?

Your characterization is sarcastic and is also exactly what the uneducated and uninformed trumpeciles truly believe.

I tried to make it as straightforward and accurate as possible, based on my perceptions of what I've heard, seen and read.

I suspect that most of what you've "heard, seen and read" regarding the subject is from fake news sources that cater to TDS afflicted morons such as yourself. You drink a lot of the commie extreme leftist Jonesian grape flavored beverage. AKA crude, defamatory anti-USA disinformation.

Or, I just pay attention to what you guys say, and ask a lot of questions. Like on this very thread. Whichever you prefer is fine.

You do not pay attention at all.

You are too busy rephrasing, misrepresenting, mocking and belittling to actually listen.
 
I tried to make it as strag
This is a serious thread, opened (and hopefully kept) in the Clean Debate Zone so that we can have some serious and thoughtful clarity on this whole controversy.

Obviously this is a complicated topic, but what I'm after here is focus, clarity, and conciseness. Your shortest, clearest, most succinct responses.

From what I'm reading, seeing and hearing, this is what Trump supporters believe happened before, during and after the 2020 elections, in three parts:

1. Fearing that President Donald Trump would win re-election in 2020, the Democrats approached and worked with the Chinese government to release a deadly virus that would disrupt the 2020 American election process and provide an excuse for the Democrats to revise/ease voting requirements. These looser requirements would provide the cover they needed to (among other things) insert doctored ballots (some of which may have been doctored by the Chinese themselves), hide/destroy ballots, and count legal ballots multiple times. Dr Anthony Fauci, a key member of the government's health system, was recruited to spread false and misleading information to the public and advance this effort.

2. A large number of individuals and organizations successfully pulled off the fraud, either working in concert or alone. Providing cover and aid in this endeavor were China, the American major media, American local media, the Democratic Party, SmartMatic and Dominion Software.

3. Once the fraud was detected, the following individuals and groups purposely and actively participated in its coverup in some way, either through dishonesty or the refusal to examine the clear and voluminous evidence of fraud that was provided: The US Supreme Court, Trump-appointed judges, GOP state election officials, GOP governors, GOP state legislatures, the FBI, the CIA, Trump's Justice Department, Trump's Attorney General, Vice President Mike Pence, the Democratic Party, the American major media and Republican congresspeople. To date, these individuals and groups have been successful in holding off the exposure of the evidence.

As I understand, that is the issue, in a nutshell, as succinct as I can make it.

Is this fair and accurate? Please comment and make your best effort to keep this focused, clear and concise.

Okay, I did forget Biden, but let's just include him in the Democratic Party.

Is my characterization fair and relatively accurate?

Your characterization is sarcastic and is also exactly what the uneducated and uninformed trumpeciles truly believe.

I tried to make it as straightforward and accurate as possible, based on my perceptions of what I've heard, seen and read.

I suspect that most of what you've "heard, seen and read" regarding the subject is from fake news sources that cater to TDS afflicted morons such as yourself. You drink a lot of the commie extreme leftist Jonesian grape flavored beverage. AKA crude, defamatory anti-USA disinformation.

Or, I just pay attention to what you guys say, and ask a lot of questions. Like on this very thread. Whichever you prefer is fine.

:rolleyes:

There you go attempting to rape a strawman again.

Pathetic.

I think you have a strawman fetish that rivals fbj's gassy tranny Latina hooker peach pie foot fetish.
 
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I tried to make it as strag
This is a serious thread, opened (and hopefully kept) in the Clean Debate Zone so that we can have some serious and thoughtful clarity on this whole controversy.

Obviously this is a complicated topic, but what I'm after here is focus, clarity, and conciseness. Your shortest, clearest, most succinct responses.

From what I'm reading, seeing and hearing, this is what Trump supporters believe happened before, during and after the 2020 elections, in three parts:

1. Fearing that President Donald Trump would win re-election in 2020, the Democrats approached and worked with the Chinese government to release a deadly virus that would disrupt the 2020 American election process and provide an excuse for the Democrats to revise/ease voting requirements. These looser requirements would provide the cover they needed to (among other things) insert doctored ballots (some of which may have been doctored by the Chinese themselves), hide/destroy ballots, and count legal ballots multiple times. Dr Anthony Fauci, a key member of the government's health system, was recruited to spread false and misleading information to the public and advance this effort.

2. A large number of individuals and organizations successfully pulled off the fraud, either working in concert or alone. Providing cover and aid in this endeavor were China, the American major media, American local media, the Democratic Party, SmartMatic and Dominion Software.

3. Once the fraud was detected, the following individuals and groups purposely and actively participated in its coverup in some way, either through dishonesty or the refusal to examine the clear and voluminous evidence of fraud that was provided: The US Supreme Court, Trump-appointed judges, GOP state election officials, GOP governors, GOP state legislatures, the FBI, the CIA, Trump's Justice Department, Trump's Attorney General, Vice President Mike Pence, the Democratic Party, the American major media and Republican congresspeople. To date, these individuals and groups have been successful in holding off the exposure of the evidence.

As I understand, that is the issue, in a nutshell, as succinct as I can make it.

Is this fair and accurate? Please comment and make your best effort to keep this focused, clear and concise.

Okay, I did forget Biden, but let's just include him in the Democratic Party.

Is my characterization fair and relatively accurate?

Your characterization is sarcastic and is also exactly what the uneducated and uninformed trumpeciles truly believe.

I tried to make it as straightforward and accurate as possible, based on my perceptions of what I've heard, seen and read.

I suspect that most of what you've "heard, seen and read" regarding the subject is from fake news sources that cater to TDS afflicted morons such as yourself. You drink a lot of the commie extreme leftist Jonesian grape flavored beverage. AKA crude, defamatory anti-USA disinformation.

Or, I just pay attention to what you guys say, and ask a lot of questions. Like on this very thread. Whichever you prefer is fine.

:rolleyes:

There you go attacking a strawman again.


What parts of his characterization do you oppose? How do YOU think the election was stolen?
 
I tried to make it as strag
This is a serious thread, opened (and hopefully kept) in the Clean Debate Zone so that we can have some serious and thoughtful clarity on this whole controversy.

Obviously this is a complicated topic, but what I'm after here is focus, clarity, and conciseness. Your shortest, clearest, most succinct responses.

From what I'm reading, seeing and hearing, this is what Trump supporters believe happened before, during and after the 2020 elections, in three parts:

1. Fearing that President Donald Trump would win re-election in 2020, the Democrats approached and worked with the Chinese government to release a deadly virus that would disrupt the 2020 American election process and provide an excuse for the Democrats to revise/ease voting requirements. These looser requirements would provide the cover they needed to (among other things) insert doctored ballots (some of which may have been doctored by the Chinese themselves), hide/destroy ballots, and count legal ballots multiple times. Dr Anthony Fauci, a key member of the government's health system, was recruited to spread false and misleading information to the public and advance this effort.

2. A large number of individuals and organizations successfully pulled off the fraud, either working in concert or alone. Providing cover and aid in this endeavor were China, the American major media, American local media, the Democratic Party, SmartMatic and Dominion Software.

3. Once the fraud was detected, the following individuals and groups purposely and actively participated in its coverup in some way, either through dishonesty or the refusal to examine the clear and voluminous evidence of fraud that was provided: The US Supreme Court, Trump-appointed judges, GOP state election officials, GOP governors, GOP state legislatures, the FBI, the CIA, Trump's Justice Department, Trump's Attorney General, Vice President Mike Pence, the Democratic Party, the American major media and Republican congresspeople. To date, these individuals and groups have been successful in holding off the exposure of the evidence.

As I understand, that is the issue, in a nutshell, as succinct as I can make it.

Is this fair and accurate? Please comment and make your best effort to keep this focused, clear and concise.

Okay, I did forget Biden, but let's just include him in the Democratic Party.

Is my characterization fair and relatively accurate?

Your characterization is sarcastic and is also exactly what the uneducated and uninformed trumpeciles truly believe.

I tried to make it as straightforward and accurate as possible, based on my perceptions of what I've heard, seen and read.

I suspect that most of what you've "heard, seen and read" regarding the subject is from fake news sources that cater to TDS afflicted morons such as yourself. You drink a lot of the commie extreme leftist Jonesian grape flavored beverage. AKA crude, defamatory anti-USA disinformation.

Or, I just pay attention to what you guys say, and ask a lot of questions. Like on this very thread. Whichever you prefer is fine.

:rolleyes:

There you go attacking a strawman again.


What parts of his characterization do you oppose? How do YOU think the election was stolen?

Primarily, via mail in ballot fraud, obviously.

When you look at the numbers, they are very anomalous in key areas.
 

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