How ****** screwed up Africa

[Desperado]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/State-Africa-History-Continent-Independence/dp/0857203886/?tag=usmb-20

10,000 different tribes divided neatly into 40 nations bounded by straight lines that divided mountains,rivers and religions. The maps were drawn in Europe by people who had no knowledge of the continent or its people.

What could go wrong ?

Even if the maps were drawn in Africa by the natives, who had no knowledge of the continent beyond their own little area plus the natives had no knowledge of map making. The bottom line is they were better off being drawn in Europe

 

[Meathead]

So you are looking at perpetual payments to all future blacks ?

Descendants of Confederate soldiers were not paid, only widows

That's a silly question and quite unnecessary.

So are you denying that whites have made perpetual money from racist policies?

Rut-Roh, how is old ****** leftwinger supposed to respond?

He will probably respond honestly. Unlike you. We may very well disagree on this, but at least he's not a racist P.O.S. like you.

I always respond honestly. I’d tell you to go **** yourself. I’d also ask you where are the reparations to white people whose ancestors fight and/or died in the civil war.

First off, if you have to ask that question, you are not being honest. Second, blacks died in the civil war and in the years before that in opposition to slavery. Third, the north did not fight to free slaves. Fourth, what about the 100 years after slavery ended? Fifth, and how about the 54 years since the civil/voting rights act, whereby we still face racism in policy and practice from whites. So you go **** yourself salty.

Look, I'm sure many of us would be happy to throw in a few bucks so you can move to Africa and set yourself up in a nice hut and maybe even buy yourself a slave or two. Just think, for the first time in your life you wouldn't occupy the bottom rung in society. Sound good?

 

[blastoff]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/State-Africa-History-Continent-Independence/dp/0857203886/?tag=usmb-20

10,000 different tribes divided neatly into 40 nations bounded by straight lines that divided mountains,rivers and religions. The maps were drawn in Europe by people who had no knowledge of the continent or its people.

What could go wrong ?

What is different from before ****** set foot in the continent? Nada, zip, zero. The place was fucked up before ******, and it's fucked up now.

And it's blacks butchering and enslaving blacks.

Same as its been for the last 10,000 years.

Well there was that period when white farmers in Africa provided an abundance of food stuffs. But then the blacks seized the farms of the evil white people and promptly ran production right into the ground.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/State-Africa-History-Continent-Independence/dp/0857203886/?tag=usmb-20

10,000 different tribes divided neatly into 40 nations bounded by straight lines that divided mountains,rivers and religions. The maps were drawn in Europe by people who had no knowledge of the continent or its people.

What could go wrong ?

What is different from before ****** set foot in the continent? Nada, zip, zero. The place was fucked up before ******, and it's fucked up now.

And it's blacks butchering and enslaving blacks.

Same as its been for the last 10,000 years.

But, they was kangs!

 

[Tommy Tainant]

The British Empire owes trillions in reparations. All the did was try to conquer and enforce their laws on others. You need to pony up.

America owes trillions in reparations and has done what the british empire has done.

I think that reparations are needed, cant see it happening though because people are too stupid.

I don’t think reparations are executable

After over 150 years, what makes this generation more deserving to be paid for the suffering of ancestors than previous or future generations?

I dont see it in terms of individual pay outs. More like infrastructure. Water,schools and so on. That would be a long term benefit.

The brits stole wealth. Building a school doesn't not replace that. But I think you are aware of this. The brits did not form a separate nation and call it America. So while your government owes African countries, india, various southern hemisphere indigenous people and several asian nations reparations, the America government owes trillions in reparations to blacks and native americans.

I think if you are looking at land grabs it might/should be possible to trace ownership of the stolen land and restoration might happen. In South Africa they are making tentative steps in that direction. But if you are looking at ,for example, diamond mining or similar. The countries natural riches. Then it becomes more difficult to make individual payments. Better to repay the value of the stolen assets in the form of assets that benefit the whole community.

There are corporations and individuals around today that benefitted from this and they should be held to account.

Pete Greig slams National Trust's £30 million plans to restore slave trade mansion - Premier

The stately homes built on the back of slaves

The hidden links between slavery and Wall Street

I just cant see it happenig. This thread being exhibit A.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/State-Africa-History-Continent-Independence/dp/0857203886/?tag=usmb-20

10,000 different tribes divided neatly into 40 nations bounded by straight lines that divided mountains,rivers and religions. The maps were drawn in Europe by people who had no knowledge of the continent or its people.

What could go wrong ?

What is different from before ****** set foot in the continent? Nada, zip, zero. The place was fucked up before ******, and it's fucked up now.

And it's blacks butchering and enslaving blacks.

Same as its been for the last 10,000 years.

Well there was that period when white farmers in Africa provided an abundance of food stuffs. But then the blacks seized the farms of the evil white people and promptly ran production right into the ground.

And there was a time before that when black people owned and farmed the land for centuries. The land was stolen from them and they were transported to shit holes by thieving ******.
Funny how racist trash like you never provide that inconvenient fact.

 

[Cosmos]

Let's not get ahead of ourselves here. ****** did not **** up Africa. EUROTRASH fucked up Africa.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/State-Africa-History-Continent-Independence/dp/0857203886/?tag=usmb-20

10,000 different tribes divided neatly into 40 nations bounded by straight lines that divided mountains,rivers and religions. The maps were drawn in Europe by people who had no knowledge of the continent or its people.

What could go wrong ?

Even if the maps were drawn in Africa by the natives, who had no knowledge of the continent beyond their own little area plus the natives had no knowledge of map making. The bottom line is they were better off being drawn in Europe

Racist idiocy.

 

[Godboy]

My studies continue. Yet to find a nation that was given its release from servitude without violence. Every freedom fighter ever was once considered a terrorist.

WRONG! There is a difference between a freedom fighter and a terrorist.

A person who fights for his freedom is not inherently bad. In fact, it is very a noble endeavor in many situations, but just because you are fighting for freedom doesnt mean you arent also a terrorist. A terrorist can sometimes be fighting for freedom, like the terrorists in "Palestine", but that just makes them freedom fighters AND terrorists.

The thing that separates the two is their means of achieving freedom. If you attack civilians to achieve your freedom, you are a terrorist . If you only attack the armed forces that have enslaved you, you are a freedom fighter.

Words have meaning.

That would make American soldiers terrorists. You know, blowing up Afghan weddings and stuff.

Do you think they intentionally attacked that wedding, or are you trying to say that it doesnt matter what their intentions were? If its the latter, youre dumb. Terrorists intentionally target civilians, the US military does not.

 

[westwall]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/State-Africa-History-Continent-Independence/dp/0857203886/?tag=usmb-20

10,000 different tribes divided neatly into 40 nations bounded by straight lines that divided mountains,rivers and religions. The maps were drawn in Europe by people who had no knowledge of the continent or its people.

What could go wrong ?

What is different from before ****** set foot in the continent? Nada, zip, zero. The place was fucked up before ******, and it's fucked up now.

And it's blacks butchering and enslaving blacks.

Same as its been for the last 10,000 years.

Well there was that period when white farmers in Africa provided an abundance of food stuffs. But then the blacks seized the farms of the evil white people and promptly ran production right into the ground.

And there was a time before that when black people owned and farmed the land for centuries. The land was stolen from them and they were transported to shit holes by thieving ******.
Funny how racist trash like you never provide that inconvenient fact.

Ummm, blacks are still enslaving blacks to this very day.

Funny how you bigoted fools ignore that too.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

My studies continue. Yet to find a nation that was given its release from servitude without violence. Every freedom fighter ever was once considered a terrorist.

WRONG! There is a difference between a freedom fighter and a terrorist.

A person who fights for his freedom is not inherently bad. In fact, it is very a noble endeavor in many situations, but just because you are fighting for freedom doesnt mean you arent also a terrorist. A terrorist can sometimes be fighting for freedom, like the terrorists in "Palestine", but that just makes them freedom fighters AND terrorists.

The thing that separates the two is their means of achieving freedom. If you attack civilians to achieve your freedom, you are a terrorist . If you only attack the armed forces that have enslaved you, you are a freedom fighter.

Words have meaning.

That would make American soldiers terrorists. You know, blowing up Afghan weddings and stuff.

Do you think they intentionally attacked that wedding, or are you trying to say that it doesnt matter what their intentions were? If its the latter, youre dumb. Terrorists intentionally target civilians, the US military does not.

That must have been a comfort to the happy couple.

 

[Godboy]

My studies continue. Yet to find a nation that was given its release from servitude without violence. Every freedom fighter ever was once considered a terrorist.

WRONG! There is a difference between a freedom fighter and a terrorist.

A person who fights for his freedom is not inherently bad. In fact, it is very a noble endeavor in many situations, but just because you are fighting for freedom doesnt mean you arent also a terrorist. A terrorist can sometimes be fighting for freedom, like the terrorists in "Palestine", but that just makes them freedom fighters AND terrorists.

The thing that separates the two is their means of achieving freedom. If you attack civilians to achieve your freedom, you are a terrorist . If you only attack the armed forces that have enslaved you, you are a freedom fighter.

Words have meaning.

That would make American soldiers terrorists. You know, blowing up Afghan weddings and stuff.

Do you think they intentionally attacked that wedding, or are you trying to say that it doesnt matter what their intentions were? If its the latter, youre dumb. Terrorists intentionally target civilians, the US military does not.

That must have been a comfort to the happy couple.

The way they feel about it doesnt change the definition of the word.

 

[Papageorgio]

America owes trillions in reparations and has done what the british empire has done.

I think that reparations are needed, cant see it happening though because people are too stupid.

I don’t think reparations are executable

After over 150 years, what makes this generation more deserving to be paid for the suffering of ancestors than previous or future generations?

I dont see it in terms of individual pay outs. More like infrastructure. Water,schools and so on. That would be a long term benefit.

Then you Brits need to step it up.

It will never happen.

I know, you Brits are like that, all talk and then nothing. It's okay we are all used to it.

 

[Desperado]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/State-Africa-History-Continent-Independence/dp/0857203886/?tag=usmb-20

10,000 different tribes divided neatly into 40 nations bounded by straight lines that divided mountains,rivers and religions. The maps were drawn in Europe by people who had no knowledge of the continent or its people.

What could go wrong ?

What is different from before ****** set foot in the continent? Nada, zip, zero. The place was fucked up before ******, and it's fucked up now.

And it's blacks butchering and enslaving blacks.

Same as its been for the last 10,000 years.

Well there was that period when white farmers in Africa provided an abundance of food stuffs. But then the blacks seized the farms of the evil white people and promptly ran production right into the ground.

And there was a time before that when black people owned and farmed the land for centuries. The land was stolen from them and they were transported to shit holes by thieving ******.
Funny how racist trash like you never provide that inconvenient fact.

Ummm, blacks are still enslaving blacks to this very day.

Funny how you bigoted fools ignore that too.

Have to remind them that is was the stronger black tribes that were selling the weaker tribes into slavery in the first place.

 

[IM2]

America owes trillions in reparations and has done what the british empire has done.

I think that reparations are needed, cant see it happening though because people are too stupid.

I don’t think reparations are executable

After over 150 years, what makes this generation more deserving to be paid for the suffering of ancestors than previous or future generations?

I dont see it in terms of individual pay outs. More like infrastructure. Water,schools and so on. That would be a long term benefit.

The brits stole wealth. Building a school doesn't not replace that. But I think you are aware of this. The brits did not form a separate nation and call it America. So while your government owes African countries, india, various southern hemisphere indigenous people and several asian nations reparations, the America government owes trillions in reparations to blacks and native americans.

I think if you are looking at land grabs it might/should be possible to trace ownership of the stolen land and restoration might happen. In South Africa they are making tentative steps in that direction. But if you are looking at ,for example, diamond mining or similar. The countries natural riches. Then it becomes more difficult to make individual payments. Better to repay the value of the stolen assets in the form of assets that benefit the whole community.

There are corporations and individuals around today that benefitted from this and they should be held to account.

Pete Greig slams National Trust's £30 million plans to restore slave trade mansion - Premier

The stately homes built on the back of slaves

The hidden links between slavery and Wall Street

I just cant see it happenig. This thread being exhibit A.

That's a fair assessment. I think that when you consider that governments made these actions legal, governments should be held accountable.

 

[IM2]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/State-Africa-History-Continent-Independence/dp/0857203886/?tag=usmb-20

10,000 different tribes divided neatly into 40 nations bounded by straight lines that divided mountains,rivers and religions. The maps were drawn in Europe by people who had no knowledge of the continent or its people.

What could go wrong ?

What is different from before ****** set foot in the continent? Nada, zip, zero. The place was fucked up before ******, and it's fucked up now.

And it's blacks butchering and enslaving blacks.

Same as its been for the last 10,000 years.

Well there was that period when white farmers in Africa provided an abundance of food stuffs. But then the blacks seized the farms of the evil white people and promptly ran production right into the ground.

And there was a time before that when black people owned and farmed the land for centuries. The land was stolen from them and they were transported to shit holes by thieving ******.
Funny how racist trash like you never provide that inconvenient fact.

Ummm, blacks are still enslaving blacks to this very day.

Funny how you bigoted fools ignore that too.

The thing about your comment is that it ignores the continuing racism by whites in the 150 plus years since slavery was made illegal. Also if you would like to point out wholesale ownership of slaves by blacks in America and the UK, maybe your argument would have merit. Otherwise it's just another attempt at diversion by racist whites used to deny. Because whites are still enslaving each other also.

 

[IM2]

Let's not get ahead of ourselves here. ****** did not **** up Africa. EUROTRASH fucked up Africa.

No, it was ******. America was in on the Scramble for Africa.

 

[westwall]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/State-Africa-History-Continent-Independence/dp/0857203886/?tag=usmb-20

10,000 different tribes divided neatly into 40 nations bounded by straight lines that divided mountains,rivers and religions. The maps were drawn in Europe by people who had no knowledge of the continent or its people.

What could go wrong ?

What is different from before ****** set foot in the continent? Nada, zip, zero. The place was fucked up before ******, and it's fucked up now.

And it's blacks butchering and enslaving blacks.

Same as its been for the last 10,000 years.

Well there was that period when white farmers in Africa provided an abundance of food stuffs. But then the blacks seized the farms of the evil white people and promptly ran production right into the ground.

And there was a time before that when black people owned and farmed the land for centuries. The land was stolen from them and they were transported to shit holes by thieving ******.
Funny how racist trash like you never provide that inconvenient fact.

Ummm, blacks are still enslaving blacks to this very day.

Funny how you bigoted fools ignore that too.

The thing about your comment is that it ignores the continuing racism by whites in the 150 plus years since slavery was made illegal. Also if you would like to point out wholesale ownership of slaves by blacks in America and the UK, maybe your argument would have merit. Otherwise it's just another attempt at diversion by racist whites used to deny. Because whites are still enslaving each other also.

No, it doesn't. There are racist morons in every group. You're a example of a black racist. Racism will sadly probably never go away.

It will be reduced, but it will never go away.

 

[IM2]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/State-Africa-History-Continent-Independence/dp/0857203886/?tag=usmb-20

10,000 different tribes divided neatly into 40 nations bounded by straight lines that divided mountains,rivers and religions. The maps were drawn in Europe by people who had no knowledge of the continent or its people.

What could go wrong ?

What is different from before ****** set foot in the continent? Nada, zip, zero. The place was fucked up before ******, and it's fucked up now.

And it's blacks butchering and enslaving blacks.

Same as its been for the last 10,000 years.

But, they was kangs!

 

[IM2]

What is different from before ****** set foot in the continent? Nada, zip, zero. The place was fucked up before ******, and it's fucked up now.

And it's blacks butchering and enslaving blacks.

Same as its been for the last 10,000 years.

Well there was that period when white farmers in Africa provided an abundance of food stuffs. But then the blacks seized the farms of the evil white people and promptly ran production right into the ground.

And there was a time before that when black people owned and farmed the land for centuries. The land was stolen from them and they were transported to shit holes by thieving ******.
Funny how racist trash like you never provide that inconvenient fact.

Ummm, blacks are still enslaving blacks to this very day.

Funny how you bigoted fools ignore that too.

The thing about your comment is that it ignores the continuing racism by whites in the 150 plus years since slavery was made illegal. Also if you would like to point out wholesale ownership of slaves by blacks in America and the UK, maybe your argument would have merit. Otherwise it's just another attempt at diversion by racist whites used to deny. Because whites are still enslaving each other also.

No, it doesn't. There are racist morons in every group. You're a example of a black racist. Racism will sadly probably never go away.

It will be reduced, but it will never go away.

Yes it does. What you call black racism isn't racist.

You are a moron who happens to be white that calls me a racist for holding a mirror to your face while pointing out continuing racism by whites. The denial of this reality by whites like you is why racism will never go away. My man, you are a dumb ass.